Tuesday, April 23, 2024

I’m still hurting from Tayali’s facebook posts, IG tells court

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President Edgar Lungu with I.G Kakoma Kanganja at KK international airport upon his return from South Africa

INSPECTOR General (IG) of Police Kakoma Kanganja has told a Lusaka magistrate’s court that he is still hurting from allegations made against him in Facebook posting by Chilufya Tayali that suggested he had something to do with the Mongu incident over which opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema has been accused of treason.

Mr Kanganja said Tayali’s posting made in April in the aftermath of the incident involving Mr Hakainde’s motorcade and that of President Edgar Lungu as they headed for the Kuomboka ceremony, was ” 100 per cent criminal” and a clear indictment of him to be charged with treason.

Mr Kanganja testified that the posting brought ridicule, hatred, contempt and uproar in society as most people were calling for his resignation.

“I was shocked when I read the article. It is still paining me. I swore to protect the Constitution of Zambia and the President as well as everyone, Hichilema included. This article brought hatred were people started calling for my resignation,” he said.

Tayali has been charged with the offence of libel, under section 191 of the Penal Code Chapter 87 of the Laws of Zambia.

This is a substituted offence and when the matter came up yesterday for opening of trial, the accused took a fresh plea and denied the charge.

Particulars are that Tayali on April 13, 2017 with intent to defame Mr Kanganja did unlawfully write and publish on social media, Facebook a defamatory statement saying:

Kanganja is just covering his inefficiency to charge Hakainde Hichilema with treason, otherwise he should be an accomplice, where was his police to clear the way long before? “That should have never happened, but maybe Kanganja planned it that way to kill the President or frame Hichilema…which statement injured the reputation of Kanganja by exposing him to hatred, contempt and ridicule,” read the particulars of the offence.

The IG said he became aware about the writings through numerous phone calls from a cross-section of the society and was forced to ask for a printout from Zambia Information Communications Technology Authority (ZICTA).

And in cross-examination Tayali sent the court into laughter when he said that he felt not protected by the court as he felt intimidated to cross-examine the IG because of the way he was responding.

Magistrate Felix Kaoma then told him that he was protected by the court and asked him to go ahead.

The accused applied for an adjournment because he wanted to come with some audio and visual recordings to defend himself.

Matter comes up on July 17 this year for continued trial.

70 COMMENTS

  1. Everything Tayali wrote sounds true, except word “kill”. In a nutshell, its embarrassing for such a senior officer to be a witness in court.
    No free speech in Zambia.

    • Tayali should be ashamed of accusing a man integrity in kanganja.

      I know tayali and HH have known each other since childhood. There you go I have solved the riddle for you. Don’t bother tell anyone else – this is a secret. My point is – Tayali’s a mouthpiece of HH.

      I’m in Glasgow and if I’m wrong someone needs suing me.

      I have a PhD

      Thanks

      BB2014,2016

    • If your ever want to know the meaning of the phrase ” the truth hurts!” here it is below.
      Evil can never over come good and the truth always comes out.

      “Kanganja is just covering his inefficiency to charge Hakainde Hichilema with treason, otherwise he should be an accomplice, where was his police to clear the way long before? “That should have never happened, but maybe Kanganja planned it that way to kill the President or frame Hichilema…which statement injured the reputation of Kanganja by exposing him to hatred, contempt and ridicule,” read the particulars of the offence.

    • Which is more painful?

      – What Tayali said or the killing of Chibulo Mapenzi?
      – What Tayali said or the pepper-spraying of HH & his workers on genitals & in mouth?
      – What Tayali said or the assaulting of Lesa Kasoma of Komboni Radio?
      – What Tayali said or the pepper-spraying & assaulting of the women who fell of a van at Luanshya magistrate?
      – What Tayali said or the assaulting of UPND cadre by 4 paramilitary police?
      – What Tayali said or the numerous unreported assaults at all police stations?
      IG needs to be tried for all these crimes after PF leaves office. The fact that he has never charged any of these officers makes him an accessory to the crimes.

    • My advice to the IG is NOT losing his peace over Tayali.

      I ask everyone to study how Tayali makes his comments. He basically goes where the money comes from without shame or integrity.

      If PF gave him a big cheque to denounce and call HH all sorts of things, he will do it the next day.This chap is a very sad person who is full of Self Praise. He loves to inflict pain into people’s lives. He is a Sad Armchair Critic that has no stance in life.

      The problem with that time catches up with you. Where are Fred Mmembe and Mutembo Nchinto.

      Bro Tayali… go and a make profession where you can earn respected income: These small changes you are collecting into your pockets – all to harm people will not take you anywhere.

      Stop procrastinating your life. Do something valuable with…

    • Your understanding of freedom of expression is very weird. Does freedom of expression entails saying anything you feel like say about people?

    • Aaaah! Aaah! Ba tayali are you not the same guys who accuse HH’s lawyers of taking time when they raise preliminaries, now it’s you asking for more time to go and get evidence, kikiki, i thought you are so prepared for the courts as you claim.

    • You publish the PhD you claim to have if it’s a genuine otherwise you are a PF paid blogger and they have given an honorary PhD for that. No one talks about earn degrees some cadres do?

    • This Kanganja thing should be ashamed to bring up such a case against Tayali.
      One important question that he has never answered until now is “where was his police to clear the way long before? ”
      This is a fundamental and basic question that should be answered, and based on this HH will be acquitted on the treason case.

    • Intimidation is what the police have restored to. Tayali is free citizen and it should take a lot to sue him under his personal capacity. However, powers be are bent on silencing all with massive imprisonment. Typical of dictatorship.

    • Ba IG, if a nothing like Tayali can hurt your feelings with his rumblings then you are not fit to be IG. We need a tough person physically and emotionally to be in that posion. Retire, Wimp!

  2. But what Tayali said was nothing but the plain truth. That’s why it hurts Kanganja badly, his machinations have been exposed!

    • Funny thing about this is that the UPND foools and their blood sucking lawyers are sleeping…they should be falling all over themselves to assist this boy Tayali with whatever evidence they have to prove that IG is truly incompetent. As for the lawyers they don’t want their cash cow to die now!!

    • Exactly Jay Jay
      Not only are they sleeping over this case but even the Treason case.When Al Jazeera gave them an opportunity to state their case that ka novice ati Mwiinga.Sad

    • Agreed HH, this should be a simple case to prove by Tayali that this IG and his entire police force are incompetent and accessories to political crimes. All he needs are good lawyers or even himself if he were smart. There’s no limit to cross examining and he can really damage this top cop’s reputation if it’s not damaged already. Remember the ‘Chiluba thief’ charge against Fred Mmembe and The Post newspaper that FTJ regretted starting?

      Yes this is a massive chance for HH lawyers to gather information and evidence to aid their client in the treason case. They can effectivel defend their treason accused using this case and bring an end to this Kanganja’s job. Any lawyer, LAZ, anyone please join the case?

  3. maLozi ba ikale ne baize: “niti ya cocota kwa lily”. Cwale esi mwa mubona Kanganja, kalabanelo kateni mane inge mukalani o nyailwe lizwai fa sitombo sa kangundu kaona ?

    • Translation: Kanganja is a good cop. Why accuse the buju just becoz he is from Jimbe or whatever in mwinilunga. This randy bemba under 5 needs some political awakening. He needs to join his friends hh, mwaliteta,a couple of hh tribemates eg cook,gardener and guards. There will also b some Barotseland zealots and like minded fo.ools to welcome him. They can insult each other in chibwakaila till 2026.wenyo!

  4. This is disgraceful, WHY did he have to ask the entire ZICTA to print a FACEBOOK post for HIM!!!!!!!!

    Is this what ZICTA has been reduced to, Printing FACEBOOK Posts for the People in Power?? Doesn’t the IG himself or his lawyers or even his subordinates, for that matter, know how to print a facebook post????

    This is a DISGRACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Hows it MMD Chief Bootlicker? Zambia Information Communications Technology “Authority” are the people mandated to deal with any ICT related issues, especially this notorious Facebook & Whats-app. And in case you you don’t know these people have all your information and check all your posts, phone calls, messages etc as long as you use a Zambian network. So people need to be extra careful what they post online just to gain popularity or FB “likes”.

    • @MMD Chief Bootlicker – Note that for the proof to stand in courts of law it must originate from an independent party. If Kanganja printed the Facebook post by himself then Tayali and his Lawyers were going to say that KANGANJA HAD EDITED THE POST. But if it come from ZICTA they can not dispute because it is the authorized body to compile such data.
      What Sir Boston Gere has posted in 5.1 above is very correct.

  5. Fulishi police ofisa(hc), what a shame,ati I love HH ,but why not sending a call out if he is an obedient citizen,can you imagine being cross examined by Tayali over the matter which is being heard or transfered to high Court ,i thought the presidential motorcade has sweepers who clears the way for him, meaning that the fulishi police ofisa (hc)sent a thousand of uniformed people to go and watch kuomboka and not protecting our Big bottle (Jameson),Zambian Democracy at its best. Muzungu anikonde, explaining police operations to a civilian hence,putting national security of our Big bottle (Jameson ) at risk of breaking. kkkkkkkkkkk

  6. They are many people languishing in detention waiting to have their day in court while the likes of IG and Tayali have their squabbles fast tracked in court. Give me a break!

  7. Well done Kanganja for going to court because your integrity was put in disrepute and public odium.Lets wait for the court to dispense justice accordingly !

    • Tiyali will produce the audio of amos chanda urging and encouraging the IG to keep HH locked up…..

    • Then bring in the voice experts – Analog modulation and demodulation technique with sampling. It’s like a thumbprint or iris recognition technique and cannot be denied in contact as forensic evidence. Think of it as a DNA sample. We live in a connected world and IOT.

  8. Kanganja is used to settle political scores of perceived enemies. You are in charge of the police and the buck stops with you. You know who planned that nonsense and small boys are giving you directives on how to deal with your boss’s enemies. You are a very useful ***** if the moment. Wait until the tables turn. This chap is the worst police chief in the history of Zambia. How on earth can a professional policeman get directives from imbeciles like Kamba, Mumbi Phiri, father Frank Bwalya, Amos Chanda and Kaiser Zulu?

  9. This boy Tayali has the opportunity to cross exam an IG of police in Zambia and is ill prepared, …Tayali I suggest you watch episodes of Columbo and Tom Cruise’s Few Good Men movie on how to question these pompous men in uniform.
    IG is an incompetent foool where were the 600 officers from Lusaka deployed in Mongu? Why is he hiding behind ZP when its him who was accused of being incompetent

  10. It seems UPND supporters are fighting everyone who does not support their hyped views. In a Democracy, you need a majority vote to rule. Where do you think your votes will come from if you continue on this self-destructive path? You guys are bringing shame to Zambia and even the tolerance of many well meaning Zambians has its limits.

  11. Its clear from IG’s statements, this guy hates social media and am sure he has dedicated his men to waste taxpayers funds reading posts instead of being out there on the street.
    I am also surprised our sleepy lawyers have not offered this boy Tayali free assistance in this publicised court case ..imagine cross examing a Zambian IG in court.

  12. Tayali is naive and confused. The Motorcade Incident is what triggered the Treason Charge. Why did the State drop the Charge thru a Nolle Prosqui? The State realised the Motorcade Incident cannot justify Treason and on Trial that would open a can of worms and embarass the State. HH’s Convoy was cleared to be on that Road. Why did Lungu’s Motorcade ambush HH’s Convoy on same Road? It was planned that way with an objective to frame HH and slap with a Treason Charge which is unbailable. The State wanted this unbailable charge so that they can hold HH in Jail to ransom and only release him from Jail on condition that HH has withdrawn the Petition from the Court and he has publicly recognized Lungu as President. So Kanganja was simply carrying out instructions from the Commander in Chief…

    • HH credits himself to be an intelligent man. It’s common knowledge and part of your driving test to understand that when you hear sirens and see warning lights on emergency vehicles such as Ambulances, Police Cars and Fire Trucks you simply give way. Why didn’t HH simply stop his convoy to give way? Late President Mwanawasa was almost killed by such overzealous behavior. If HH refused to stop because he simply didn’t recognize Lungu as president then he is in the right place and rightly charged because it’s a treasonable offense to rebel against an elected head of state. HH till this day has failed to provide proof that he won the 2016 elections.

    • @ Future Zed

      Ati…. “your driving test..”…”Why didn’t HH simply stop his convoy to give way?” ……

      Just how dull can a person be? Are you sure your brain is functioning properly?

      HH WAS NOT DRIVING ANY ONE OF THOSE VEHICLES !!!!! Which part of that can you not understand ??????

    • @ Duno, just goes to show that you’ve either never taken any driving lessons or you are just a sponsored vuvuzela. So using your own logic, why are you then blaming the president for arresting HH when it was the police who actually arrested him and his accomplices for failing to stop? Who do you think owns the vehicle he was traveling in, his driver? Upuba too much. You guys lack the basic of common sense. No wonder you can’t even string a few sentences together without insults.

  13. Tayali cannot be trusted otherwise some lawyers would have given him some free legal advice. Why is Tayali attacking the office of the IG when he knows Kanganja was acting on instructions from State House? It was originally planned that Lungu would use the Chopper and thats why HH’s Convoy was cleared to use the Road. It was later planned to ambush HH’s Convoy from behind and cause a pile up accident. Thank God this failed. The Motorcade Rage Incident was planned to harm HH and when the Plan failed they framed HH for Treason. Kanganja was part of the scheme to frame up and slap HH with a Treason Charge which is unbailable. Even after dropping the Motorcade Charge they have retained the Treason Charge to keep HH in Jail for as long as possible to cripple his UPND Party,force HH to…

    • Who do think is tasked to protect the President? Who do you think sued Tayali and locked him up? Is it not IG Kanganja himself.

  14. I wish I was Tayali. Am actually relishing this moment. Tayali here is the list of evidence to collect;

    1. The video footage of IG informing the nation that he was sending 600 police officers to protect the president.
    2. Video footage of the motor vehicle fiasco which showed that there were no police officers lined up along Limulunga Road.
    3. Video footage of IG informing the nation that he had watched the video and will come back to the nation after studying it.
    Key Witnesses: Nelson Phiri Western Police Commissioner.
    Tayali, structure your questions around this but firstly ask him (I G ) what his duties are?

    • This indeed requires a public inquiry conducted by the Department of Public Prosecution (DPP) or its equivalent in Zambia so that the whole country is better informed of the wrongs that have been done.

      The state should provide freedom and protection to the people who want to testify against the ills of the police in modern day Zambia.

      You see, there is no treasonable act that was committed by the accused but an oversight by the chief of police to provide security for the head of state.

      In a civilized world the chief of police ought to at least be suspended and at worst be fired like Trump fired the FBI chief for not doing his job.

  15. The mast on line…..

    PF member of the central committee Mwenya Musenge was this afternoon abruptly sent out of Lusaka Central Prison where he went to visit incarcerated UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema and Obvious Mwaliteta.

  16. Tayali was right. Every success or failure rests with him just like Lungu is resiponsible for HH’s arrest. In the West, Kanganja should have resigned long time ago on moral grounds for the evils done by PF and his police

  17. The TRUTH has finally vindicated us! One thing for sure is the way ECL was moved in Mongu was extraordinary. That is no way you move a head of state. It was a very dangerous way to move a head of state where the motorcade is made to overtake mobile vehicles. We know there was enough manpower deployed who could have cleared the road of all moving vehicles. We also know that three Helicopters were on hand to airlift ECL. Why that was not done is for the IG to explain. We thank God nothing happened to ECL otherwise anything was possible at that point. With ECL’s window open, anything could have been thrown in there or worse, a looney driver would have swerved into ECL’s vehicle. Kanganja is the boss over all commissioners and when such lapses happen, he should know that he is answerable…

  18. Kanganja is the boss over all commissioners and when such lapses happen, he should know that he is answerable. The whole Mongu saga smells of a setup by PF zealots who seem to overruled Kanganja and the VIP protection unit just to get at someone giving them sleepless nights. Pure dirty setup that has come back to haunt the schemers! Free the innocent soul!

  19. The other question good citizens should be asking is was ZICTA in order to give that information on the IG’s request without a court order? If Stanbic bank is in trouble for giving Savenda over to CRB, it will be in order for Tayali to sue ZICTA for breach of confidentiality!

  20. So many years of continuous service and his skin is so thin to be suffering over words. Grow some balls and be a man. Just poiticking ,if its too hot in the kitchen get out

    • As Nawakwi stated when she went to release her cadres 2 years ago ..that this IG was pushed through the ranks by Lazy Lungu for appeasement…Tayali needs to look into this and also play that video recording in court. IG will drop this as it will embarrass and expose him the more it carries on!!

  21. As Terrible, I can only say that UPNDonkeys have really wasted the nation’s time.

    Oh, and that voters have been looking, if elections were held again today the donkeys would only get a vote in southern, a much reduced one because even there they have begun to doubt the leadership and wisdom of underfive.

    • No need for name-calling. The best way forward is to go Federal. It is clear that some ethnic groupings are not civilized to respect others from different ethic extractions. Self determination is the way forward. At least I agree with Chagwa that the One Zambia One Nation was KK’s lie. Let each province govern itself. That way we’ll know who the troublemakers have been. Some tribes have wasted this country’s time to move forward and because they have stolen too much, they don’t want to give others the chance to rule because they know some ethnic groups don’t tolerate stealing! We can’t go on like this with this mediocrity of leadership! Shame!

  22. I’m not a Tayali fan but his statement as quoted is not defamation. He says “maybe” Kanganja planned it
    He isn’t saying kanganja planned. He is saying perhaps. Tayali is within freedom of speech. Ba magistrate acquit

  23. Its not the IG’s fault. Mr Kanganja is simply carrying out instructions from his Boss, the Commander in Chief (ECL ) who in turn carries out orders from the King Maker (KZ). This ambush was planned and Kanganja,Lungu and KZ are brains behind the Treason Trap. The IG is trying to shed some crocodile tears while intimidating his Critics and telling them to shut up. The State withdrew the Motorcade Charge to avoid the ambush being exposed during Cross Examination. The State knows the Treason Charge is fake but wants to use it to fix Stubborn HH and UPND and their dreadful Petition. The State wants to use the Treason Charge charge to keep HH in Jail while at the same time forcing HH to withdraw the Petition from Court and compel him to publicly recognize Lungu as the legitimate President. HH…

  24. I am baffled by the support Tayali is getting from some bloggers here. The truth is that Tayali libeled the Inspector General by making baseless and unsubstantiated allegations against him. Tayali, in my view, deserves no sympathy whatsoever from any balanced court of law or law abiding and patriotic Zambian citizens. Imagine him doing what he did to the Inspector General to you! Would you even enjoy your Mosi at Lusaka Club? As far as I am concerned, Tayali is just an egotistical, publicity – seeking narcissistic individual on an ego-trip who is a danger to many of us and needs to be caged. I am sure the courts will come to the same conclusion as mine and do the needful. Watch this space.

    • Some people will support anything so long it’s anti government. People celebrated when a monkey urinated on president Rupia Banda during a state house press conference.

  25. Tayali no lawyer. What! Where’s the post and HH to support your case. Tongas will never support you. How upnd have been to your court case

  26. the truth will never be ignored where were the more than 500 police men who went to mongu , why were they not assigned to man the lieuyi up to limulungu road the only road in mongu. give the people the answer.

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