Thursday, March 28, 2024

It’s time for unconditional dialogue-HH

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UPND President Hakainde Hichilema
UPND President Hakainde Hichilema

Incarcerated opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema has charged that its time that the UPND and the PF had unconditional dialogue.

And Mr Hichilema who has today clocked 90 days in jail has called on the PF government to prepare a recovery package for all Marketeers affected by the City Market inferno.

Meanwhile, Mr Hichilema says the declaration of a state of emergency is not the way to respond to the outbreak of fires.

In a statement posted on his Facebook page, Mr Hichilema said time has now come to put all the differences aside and work for the common good.

“If others are putting conditions, they can be left behind and let those that are willing, who are the majority anyway, convene and find solutions to problems that are affecting us as a country,” Mr Hichilema said.

The UPND leader said this is not time to be talking about Governments of National Unit (GNU) saying those terms are used for failed states.

He said the UPND will not be interested in such a government.

And Mr Hichilema has appealed to the PF government to prepare a recovery package for all Marketeers affected by the City Market fire.

He said the declaration of a state of emergency is not the way to respond to these fires.

“GBM and my sister Chama were selling Kapenta and dry fish while I was supplying meat in small butcheries there. That community is what made GBM and HH what they are today. We therefore must all do something to have that market back up again as soon as possible,” Mr Hichilema said.

Below is Mr Hichilema’s full statement

Dear Colleagues,

I am saddened and shocked at the fire that destroyed property and goods worth millions of kwacha at City Market last week. That place is special to GBM and me for two reasons. One and most importantly, our economic plan has its foundation on small and medium scale enterprises (SMEs).

The SMEs model is known worldwide as the most successful model for three reasons; first, their contribution to GDP; secondly to taxes for Government revenue collection and thirdly employment.

We can give you a whole chapter on this but for now we should stop here as we commiserate with our colleagues who lost property and goods worth millions of kwacha. Secondly and of less importance is that we started our businesses there.

GBM and my sister Chama were selling Kapenta and dry fish while I was supplying meat in small butcheries there. That community is what made GBM and HH what they are today. We therefore must all do something to have that market back up again as soon as possible.

To my fellow businessmen that have lost their goods, I can only hope that the PF government will prepare a recovery package for you, because that is exactly what we would have done, had we been in power. It is too huge an economic investment to lose through an inferno.

This brings us to the second point. The declaration of a state of emergency is not the way to respond to these fires. We have basic underlying issues like lack of tight security around our public infrastructure that could easily be attributed directly to the outbreak of these fires.

Where is the Zambia Police to guard public utilities like City Market? Look at the human resources that are being provided to guard Hakainde yet we cannot guard a public utility like City market which is more important than one individual. Hakainde. If we had a well-funded and resourced police it would serve two things.

First they will be motivated and secondly they will have the equipment and means to actually investigate all these fires to establish from where they are coming. Where the police fails, bring in National Service, if that fails bring in Zambia Army until the situation is brought under control if the situation is really a case of arson as we are being told.

Why can’t we invest money in the City Council Fire Department so that they can respond to fires on time and actually can put out fires. Declaring state of emergencies will not equip the police, it will not buy fire tenders, it will actually slow down the economy from where the Government is supposed to collect taxes to finance the police and the city council.

We need leadership in this country, we need a leadership that has depth and possess a multidimensional approach to problem solving. In our current scenario, all problems have one solution. Political.

Colleagues there are no prizes for guessing how this this declaration will be implemented, we all know what is motivating this declaration; its politics. We will come back to this subject after the measures have been announced and arrests targeted at the opposition have started.

Which brings us to the third issue, dialogue; we have been informed that there are sections of society that have been calling for a dialogue to diffuse the tension that risks to engulf this country.

It is strange that everyone seems to converge on the issue of tension and dialogue except for the PF which is coming with conditions. Without even knowing the agenda the PF is giving conditions. We have never refused to be part of any dialogue that is anchored on national interest.

This is the reason the UPND, despite being criticized, we participated in the national indaba that was called by President Mwanawasa. We participated in the NCC because we believed it was for nation building though later our friends in the MMD then changed their minds.

It’s time we had dialogue, unconditional dialogue. We are nationalists dear colleagues, these are times when we should put all our differences aside and work for the common good. If others are putting conditions, they can be left behind and let those that are willing, who are the majority anyway, convene and find solutions to problems that are affecting us as a country.

This is not time to be talking about Governments of National Unit (GNU), those terms are used for failed states. And UPND will not be interested in such a government.
The PF and UPND are sitting on opposite sides of the political ideology, how can someone even think of such a thing? For the record it is not UPND that mentioned such a thing and we are not interested.

No one person is bigger than Zambia, dialogue should thus start immediately. As UPND we are not putting any conditions to any dialogue, all we are interested in is that the country must begin to talk.

A talking country is a progressive country. Colleagues, I leave it to you out there to actualize the dialogue with whoever is interested and UPND stands ready to lead the coalition of the willing if the Government is not interested.

God Bless Zambia.
HH

165 COMMENTS

  1. I’m non partisan. I don’t vote. I don’t belong to any Political entity, but this man loves the people. He has a heart for the people. Listen to him.

    • Zambian courts are a disgrace. It took five years for them to decide on Mazoka vs Mwanawasa. It’s taking as long deciding on HH vs EL. This is worrisome in a democracy. How can people accepted a contested presidency?

    • Even though HH don’t have much of natural wisdom like me, the guy has brains. He knows how to think, but expression cost him respect. But I appreciate his thinking mwee.

    • Wisdom at its best. PF can’t stand wisdom. They are too shallow minded and are always bent on selfish endeavors. They lack capacity to lead, rule or even see issues of national interest clearly.

    • HE IS NOW FEELING IT – BUT THE BLAME GAME LINGERS ON!
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      In the first place its you and your useless leadership that have tried to put Zambia into frames. In the second place, you are responsible for the economic hardship marketeers are now going through. Thirdly, you are responsible for the impending SOE. Zambia needs to be governed. Fourthly, dialogue for what apart from you realizing that its time to move on? ECL does not need your recognition but kindly don’t destruct him. Fifthly, the quest for dialogue was long made. You were called to dialogue before elections, only Edith Nawakwi and ECL turned up. Now you want to embrace dialogue? What for? What’s the agenda for that meeting, anyway? Help preserve Zambia by doing what you have always done…

    • I agree with you, the problem is these people that are dull and busy punching the air while doing dununa reverse. Lack of education is really a problem in Zambia.

    • This hh idi,o!t …musatanyina . . .after his tribesmen burnt the market, he now wants to be Hero mu jele !!!! wenyo mambala samvela, anava nkwangwa ili mumutu . U will rot in jail until u know wh won the eRections.

    • ~HE IS NOW FEELING IT – BUT THE BLAME GAME LINGERS ON!~
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      Firstly its you and your use(less) leadership that have tried to put Zambia into frames. In the second place, you are responsible for the economic hardship marketeers are now going through. Thirdly, you are responsible for the impending SOE. Zambia needs to be governed. Fourthly, dialogue for what apart from you realizing that its time to move on? ECL does not need your recognition but kindly don’t destruct him. Fifthly, the quest for dialogue was long made. You were called to dialogue before elections, only Edith Nawakwi and ECL turned up. Now you want to embrace dialogue? What for? What’s the agenda for that meeting, anyway? Help preserve Zambia by doing what you have always done before…

    • It still doesn’t make sense if UPND do not recognize the president and are still on the same page that there votes where stolen it thats what he means by saying that it is time to put the nation first then let dialogue take place as soon as possible and the UPND why are they still talking that there is political tension in Zambia? all this need to be put aside then we will move on

    • @ Mumbi Phiri take a few deep breaths and tone down then join the discourse with your view points. You may be lucky out there where you are but @ Nsimanadelele1 I would like to borrow the last sentence “Lack of education is really a problem in Zambia.” does not only apply to Zambians at home in Zambia but as well to a few in the diaspora!

    • if this man loves the people and that He has a heart for the people of zambia then why is he putting these fires in the same contry you say he loves it and its people?

    • I am laughing like a Hyena with crocodile tears.

      Ba HH, you are a failure and a loser at Politics. Once you accept that then things will move.

    • Finally fresh breath this statement is like mint to unclean mouths.

    • If HH is as good as he is portraying in this sugar coated statement, what is the big deal of holding on grudges after losing the elections. If you truly love Zambians, afford them time to work with their elected government. Walk the talk Sir and you will be vindicated if truly you stand on love, peace and public service.

    • @Lombwe FYI Human Hyena (HH) doesn’t love the people the man is a self centred cretin that used force and violence and tri.balism to sideline Sakwiba way back in 2004 for UPND Presidency.
      HH pays his workers on his farm real peanuts-no clinic or proper housing for any of his workers yet the crook was making millions
      HH under direction undervalued ZCCM assets during privitisation making him a party to a serious crime that saw many former miners die from poverty.
      HH has deliberately seen to the loss of life of Zambians by disobeying State directives such as the Public Order Act
      The chap is a low life and a lying conman crook!

    • A TRUE PRESIDENT, A TRUE STATESMAN!!!!!

      Not an educated f00l who chooses advisors like thugs like Kaizer Zulu, Mumbi Phiri, Kapyongo, Bowman Lusambo, Kennedy kamba etc.

    • This HH is fake for real. It is because of his arrogance and hatred that he refused to accept the results of the last election. If you had practiced democracy and conceded just like all other leaders in democratic nations your followers would not have started theses fires period. HH you are the cause of all this.

    • In Africa according to Prof. Lumumba, we don’t value people who mean well for our countries. We celebrate corruption and thieves and we throw the good guys! Sad!

    • So HH, what are you planning to talk about?

      “UPND are not putting any conditions, if anyone is putting conditions, it is not UPND”

      But who said you are?

      “We are not looking for government of national unity”

      Who said you are?

    • The UK was trying really hard to stay out Zambian madness created by Lungu’s madness. But now that Lungu has commanded the Zambian high commissioner to get UK involved, the UK will take keen interest in trying to find the truth behind these allegations against its most valued subject.

      Any way if Zambia has money to waste, let it bring it on and pay the huge legal fees in the extradition case that might take decades to come true because Larry Mweetwa has a good record in the UK. By the time Larry is given to Zambia after a judge rules against him, Lungu and most of his stooges will be long gone.

      Kapyongo is known by the UK government as one the thug MPs who instructed PF thugs to stone a helicopter carrying the late Mwanawasa ‘s wife on board during the 2014 campaigns. Therefore a…

    • Kapyongo is known by the UK government as one the thug MPs who instructed PF thugs to stone a helicopter carrying the late Mwanawasa ‘s wife on board during the 2014 campaigns. Therefore a statement from a person like Kapyongo with questionable criminal mentality will not be taken serious by the UK.

    • @ Advice1
      Ans 1: The PF did. Lungu and all his cronies have been putting conditions. They say UPND must first recognize Ngulu as president.

      Ans 2: Lungu just said it. He said in his address to the nation that UPND wants to have a government of national unity. They have been saying this even before Chulu declared Lungu as president.

      Now this level of dullness you are showing is what represents the brain of PF. Really sad.

    • The article still shows arrogance “GBM and my sister Chama were selling Kapenta and dry fish while I was supplying meat in small butcheries there. That community is what made GBM and HH what they are today.” The man is now trying to tell us that his riches are from city market when it is known that he stole privitisation money. GBM was a thief of army tenders and drugs. So don’t clean your money with other pipo’s suffering. Dialogue for what? Tell you s.tu.pid mps to stop misbehaving and there is no need for any dialogue as criminals are being jailed like you.

    • HH has no love for the people and the country. Let HH state clearly what he thinks PF and Up an Down need to discuss. Has he accepted that Edgar Lungu is President? If he hasn’t then why does he want to sit down and talk to an illegitimate government? True freedom fighters have stayed in prison for up to 27 years and HH is already tired with just 90 days.
      WHAT DOES HE WANT TO DISCUSS WITH MY PRESIDENT? LET HIM TELL HIS CADRES TO STOP BURNING PUBLIC FACILITIES. PERIOD

    • Just 90 days chi.kolor h.h atampa ukusabaila. This same h.h is the causer of confusion in Zambia. He has been losing elections his whole life yet busy hallucinating that he won elections. Let him rot in jail as Zambia is better off with hh in Mukobeko because his arrogance is stinking.

    • Awe ba Engineer, leadership is not found in statements but unwavering, unbiased, obedience and just actions. I bet you are familiar with true public service, “all else before you”

    • What leadership? This is playing to the gallery. If he is serious and wants to dialogue, he knows the channels to follow – not writing to your supporters. This note or letter is not written to the President but to UPND supporters – are these the people he wants to dialogue with? A clever politician was going to use a respectable statesman to deliver a message to the Head of State, privately. Also, if you seek dialogue, you must propose an Agenda – when you propose an Agenda, you are obviously setting conditions. When you say “unconditionally”, then you are implying that the Agenda will be generated when you meet. So, my challenge to everybody is: Will someone propose an Agenda for this dialogue? Note that if two parties to a dialogue cannot agree on an Agenda, then there is no dialogue.

    • @OneNation – ignorance at its best. This is not a meeting like the ones you hold about how to hack people or disrupt UPND. National dialogue is about issues in the country and that is the agenda. Top on the agenda is the tension in the country and how to defuse it. You in PF are saying there is no tension.

    • ambian do not want good things. Someone is calling for dialogue and they complain. You shun away they still complain. What next? Chiwama chabe ngati muntu agona or afa.

    • Zambians do not want good things. Someone is calling for dialogue and they complain. You shun away they still complain. What next? Chiwama chabe ngati muntu agona or afa.

    • In 2021 we are voting for President Edgar Lungu again not this h.h & unpd busy burning markets. When you lose elections be like Sata, accept & move on. Not busy with use.less petitions & jumping from one court to another like mad idi.ots & now busy burning markets. Because of their bitterness & being a source of confusion in Zambia, may Unpd remain cursed & perpetual election losers! Viva ECL till 2026!

  2. Ukutumpa swine. Whom are you mocking you sh…t. Shut up and enjoy your stay in a place where you belong.

    • This is not HH speaking… who ever wrote this on HH page is dreaming. HH does not want dialogue but to rule Zambia. Period.

  3. How can a accomplished pharmacist rejoice to see human trauma. I thought education and a bit of international exposure notwithstanding at old age would make someone a bit rational.

    We are seing volcanic amagedon unleashed on poors voters yet those responsible expect to win votes. How ironic

  4. This is good message HH. That is the spirit. No conditions even when you are in chains! We pray that your handlers will not make you change your mind and stance

  5. And what were the conditions again?? And who by the way imposed those conditions?

    You !d!ots refused to meet the President, under any circumstances, to discuss issues affecting ordinary Zambians because YOU DON’T RECOGNIZE THE PRESIDENCY OF EDGAR LUNGU. So who are you going to meet for these discussions? And in what capacity is the President going to meet with you since in your CONFUSED WORLD Edgar is NOT a real President?

    HH, stop ‘amasangalatoni’ yobe, you sadist!!

    • PF has insisted that theres no dialogue to take place unless UPND recognises President Lungu! So the condition is coming from PF to answer your question and you are also at the same time, re-stating the same conditionality as you give advice! Why do you then wonder as to who imposed the conditions, if not you and PF!

  6. My other names are Armageddon Volcano. I breath fire, I eat fire. Even when I want to dialogue, I will always open fire first! Wherever I go, its fire; prison fire, church fire, market, fire,

  7. Dr SS -what was the judgement in the Mazoka vs Mwanawasa case? Delayed justice makes people loose interest in the matter.

    Ecclesiastes 8:11
    Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil.

  8. He’s feeling the heat in Chimbokaila. Hakainde thought he was smarter than us Zambians.

    The souls of the miners will haunt him to death. Why did he privatize the mines and gain wealth unfairly?

    • He becomes delusional then he hallucinates. That’s the Hallucinating Hyena for you AKA Kaponya (HH)

      The number 1 Kaili in the Chimbokaila-Mukobeko corridor. 1 year after elections and UPND still want their failed petition to be heard.

      Apologize first, to the poor miners you stole money from. Their graves are still breathing.

      #HangHim
      /Behead (HH)

  9. THE PROBLEM WITH BEING INCARCERATED IS THAT YOU ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY. YOU ARE FED WITH WRONG INFORMATION THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING OUT THERE AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU OUT THERE, WHEN THE REALITY IS THAT PEOPLE DETEST , ABHOR AND DISLIKE YOU FOR BURNING THEIR STALLS. AND THEN YOU TURN BACK FOOLING THEM THAT YOU ARE SYMPATHIZING WITH THEM WHEN IN FACT NOT AT ALL.. WE HOPE THE 90 DAYS HAVE MADE YOU A BETTER CITIZEN. OTHERWISE IF YOU FAIL THIS TEST, YOU WILL HAVE TO REPEAT THE SAME AGAIN…….SOME PEOPLE TAKE LONG TO LEARN.

  10. Good but too late. Had you come out like this after the elections,I would have given you my vote in 2021.But you stubbornness has brought so much hate and pain in the country. On thing am glad though is that you are beginning to sober up. Why not send a word to party UPND to stop being militant may be you can win a few more hearts. My friend change your political advisors and make own decisions. Your thoughts at this point are kind of coming from an educated mind not what we have received from you in the past. May be a personal word delivered by your trusted ones to the Republican President. I know you are in cells but who knows it can help. We all make mistakes, but an apology is a good weapon.

  11. HH makes sense guys please this is a better and cheaper option that the Article 31 etc….

    If Lungu is a humble man as everyone says this is the time to do something for the Zambian people…..

    Once this opportunity window goes the PF will not fix the problem the country is having.

    • Question is, who has created this tention in the country? How do you start up a fire and again you want to discuss the same fire with other people? Does it make sense?

    • Nawakwi is busy lobbying for cash for business in the name of FDD! When the purported dialogue is raging she is in super speed with the DONORS that she can broker the deal between HH and ECL! MAYO WASULUSE

  12. this call should have come much earlier but its never too late even though the turn around is a bit surprising…jail must be tough. great call. kudos

  13. In life it’s important to keep quiet when you don’t have anything to say. Bo HH, you send your cadres to burn the market and then you turn around and start mocking people. You are heartless and evil.

    • This one must be picked to help with investigations. He seems to have some valuable information he is keeping to himself! Instead of talking lies, why not dash to claim the K500,000 police have offered as reward!

  14. Uyu munthu, niwabwanji kansi . . . heartless fo.ool .u burn the maliketi and now u start mocking poor pipo….shahahahah

  15. I mean this shows leadership, no conditions wow….even if your PF heart was made with a train engine, how can anyone pass up on that….???? ?????

    • The moment you say lets dialogue without conceding defeat you have already put a condition. Is this too difficulty for you UPND chaps to understand? This is what your party Leader Hakainde Hichilema is doing- putting condition. Who is he going to dialogue with? in what capacity is HH going to talk? who is going to chair they meeting and why? If you answer these questions truthfully you will realise that HH is doing things in Dununa reverse as has been sang before.

  16. kkkkkk unconditional dialogue my foot! Yet you setting conditions. What do you want to talk about reversing the 2016 results lol…enjoy your stay in the five star hotel. I was also selling beans before your saga at the koumboka

  17. Anyway, though I hate HH too much, I sincerely want to thank him for condemning the burning of City market. BUT HH should have condemned the burning of other things like peoples’ houses, courts and markets in the recent past by his UPND supporters and they would have obeyed his command but alas he kept silent all along and they felt he was in support of their actions until now that the biggest market in the country has been burnt. It’s a bit too late Sir! Only a fool can be refooled.

  18. @Lombe Hachibusa! “Hazaluza Hagain loves the people and the President Edgar Lungu hates the people?” This party and its supporters reasoning is so shallow that I sometimes wonder which planet they live in! You refuse to concede a loss, you begin to insult the winner, you begin to incite lawless in the nation, your people begin to destroy property and other people in your region – Namwala, you fail to obey the “Yield sign” to the presidential motorcade and you get incarcerated, even when the international community had okayed the election results and your contest was thrown out by a court, you want DIALOGUE? Weed?

    • Sugar icing Armageddon? Mr. HH please first withdraw your Armageddon prophecy and admit defeat for the sake of the people, then whatever you are preaching will be genuine, GOOD LUCK.

  19. most comments here are from paid bloggers,and i tried to click down but the upper arrow gave a thumbs up by 2 and thumbs down by 1,is lusakatimes scared of treason charges too.

  20. BACK IN TIME – FLASH BACK
    SUNDAY CHANDA SAYS HICHILEMA IS A FLIP FLOPPER
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    19th July 2016, almost one year ago Lusaka-Opposition leader Hakainde Hichilema has continued to show that he is a flip flopper and a very inconsistent person who cannot be trusted with national leadership. His history of flip flopping dates from the time he entered the political stage making him a very dangerous man to have in a public office and perhaps he is better off remaining in the opposition a little longer after President Edgar Lungu trounces him again in about a months’ time so that he can probably retire.
    “How can he today deny through his spokesperson Dipak Patel that he did not refuse to sign the Peace Accord when the whole country knows that his signature is NOT…

    • Cont’d
      … on the document that was signed by among others, President Edgar Lungu, Ms Edith Nawakwi and others that love and cherish peace?” Two political Siamese twins going by the names of Hakainde Hichilema and Wynter Kabimba refused to sign the peace accord and we all know what the two have in common – Fred M’membe and the Post Newspaper!
      Does Mr Hichilema honestly think we are ignorant as he is to not know a signed Peace Accord and a none signed document? We challenge Mr Hichilema to produce the statement he signed to simply ‘sonta’ and we know the answer will be NO because he did not sign it.
      He is back tracking now because he realises that his failure to sign the statement CONFIRMED for the umpteenth time to us that he has a great appetite for VIOLENCE.
      We have already…

    • Cont’d
      … stated in the past that Hichilema’s close and deep association with violent persons like Mr William Banda a former UNIP vigilante and bus owner Geoffrey Mwamba shows that he loves violence.
      There is a local saying, “uwawa tabula akabepesho” which means he who falls often looks for something to blame it on and like wise, “He has already conceded defeat hence the reason he is looking for a reason to use as he bows out next month.
      Mr Hichilema must tame his arrogance and realise that to lead a nation, you need a certain high level of discipline like the way President Lungu has.
      “He must learn from President Lungu and humble himself because arrogance and conceit will take him nowhere in this election at all.”
      We are also happy that he refused to sign the Peace Accord because…

  21. Much as HH is trying to state a valid point,his arrogance can be noted!!IF HH REALLY NEEDS DIALOGUE WITH PF GOVNT,HOW CAN HE SAY THOSE WITH CONDITIONS CAN REMAIN BEHIND?if PF remains behind,whom can HH dialogue with?
    AM SURE 90 SOLID DAYS BEHIND BARS HAVE TAUGHT HIM A LESSON!!BUT HE MUST WAIT,SOON WE WILL BE COUNTING YEARS!!
    President Edgar Lungu must ignore this evil man.his tribal supporters have burnt Zambia and he cannot even donate a ngwee from his stolen money.WE HAVE SEEN POOR ZAMBIANS LIKE UNCLE-T DONATING K40 000 FOR CITY MARKET VICTIMS.CAN GREEDY HH DO THAT?NEVER!!
    Its too late for your dialogue Kaili # 1.you could have done that in 2016 after losing elections!!PLEASE PF GOVNT,IGNORE HH BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS BIGGER THAN ZAMBIA!!LET HIM KNOW THAT LIFE IN ZAMBIA SHALL…

    • Honestly, can mr. HH dialogue without the involvement of the PF? are you really genuine in your appeal sir? be humble and you will be exhalted.

  22. When Kabila’s time was over, he began to do what this guy is doing, “Let’s dialogue!” Kabila finished his “father’s” term and completed two other terms! He now was not eligible to stand for elections, so he began saying, “Let’s dialogue!” Let us put the cat out of the bag: Dialogue on what? Oh! Government of National Unity! Wow! Losers are just as delusional as their supporters! You cannot and will not be a part of this government! Your attitude show on this blog! The court has to make a ruling on someone’s fate! You go to court and dialogue with the judge.

  23. if this man loves the people and that He has a heart for the people of zambia then why is he putting these fires in the same contry you say he loves it and its people?

    • jajabinks, how possible is it for HH to start fires when he is in prison? guys let us be serious in our blogs. this country does not belong to the PF nor UPND; it is our country regardless of our political affiliations this trouble has to stop and it is good that HH has called for dialogue.

  24. Another blander by under5.

    1. He is saying that the reason to the inferno is lack of tight security and invocation of article 31 won’t solve the problem.

    2. Him and his stooges have been on a campaign trail telling the world that Zambia is a failed state and today he is saying they are not interested in GNU.

    3.He is appealing to govt to come up with a recovery plan for the affected but he is forgetting that he doesn’t recognise the head of the govt. What a tard this cretin is.
    We are miles away than you just concentrate on wanking.

  25. I am shocked to see Father Telesphore Mpundu and Chief Mukuni (who claim to support the weak) keep quiet and not speaking for the weak whose shops have been burnt at City market.

    • A fire at City Market is a single occurrence not too big to be handled by the police and the fire brigade! That is the mistake we are making under PF. We are not to be masters on every issue. The bishops helped to summarise issues that affected our peace or detorialation of it in broader terms. Its clear you don’t mean well sir!

  26. We pray for you sir day in day out.. May the good lord protect you the way he protected daniel in the jaws on Lions. I pray for your family too. I also pray for your enemies to live longer to see how you will change this Nation called Zambia when God ALLOWS THAT.

    You mean well sir.

  27. If you had struck this RECONCILIATORY TONE when there were LYNCHINGS,BURNING of HOUSES and GENERAL ETHNIC HATRED IN NAMWALA, some parts of Southern, Western and NWestern Provinces,one would have said “PLEASE,LISTEN TO THE LEADER”. Even if you had that Mongu incident, people would have said “HEY, LEAVE HIM FOR NOW, HE IS A PEACE MARKER” but NO,NO..! You have chosen a path of destruction where anyone who disagrees with you has to be insulted, and your supporters have been even more lethal! Can this be true that you are causing fires to force government to negotiate a Government of National Unity (GNU) like Lungu said and now you are calling for Dialogue? LUNGU has said several times, “DIALOGUE ON NATIONAL ISSUES LIKE ECONOMIC POLICIES etc NOT PERSONAL or POWER SHARING!”

  28. It is really amazing that even before the police & fire department completes their investigations and everyone is talking about opposition party being responsible. Is that not interference in the ongoing investigations?
    So what are the police supposed to investigate when even HE ECL during the press conference in response to questions clearly indicated the opposition was responsible for the Lusaka fires.
    This is my observation and following the discussion here.

    • Remember the Armageddon and mayhem promise. Learn to tame your tongues. Kaleza, its United Party for National Destruction!
      Merchants of evil deeds, miserable terrorists! Ethnic cleansers! Oppressors of the poor.

  29. It’s time to move on. The quarrels won’t take us anywhere. Let’s make 2021 elections the cleanest ever.

    • That can’t happen. It can never be the cleanest without tolerance to one another. Tolerance is lacking, in our country and as observed on this blog.

  30. Bwana HH, the Zambian Govt has priorities to pursue with integrity.
    (a) The Courts must decide on HH’s fate without interference from the Executive (the President).
    (b) Security wings must exhaust criminal offences linked to fires and sabotage of Zesco installations.
    (c) Larry Mweetwa is KEY to spate of fires and sabotage activities.

    • In reference to (c), Fires do happen,its just how you tackle them.The two incidents happened within the lats 24 hours
      1.A huge blaze broke out overnight at Camden Lock Market in north London.
      Seventy firefighters and 10 fire engines were sent to the site, which is a popular tourist attraction, London Fire Brigade (LFB) said.
      A fire officer at the scene said the fire began in a building containing a number of businesses.
      2.Up to 14 people, including a child, were reportedly injured in a fire which broke out at a shopping mall in the northeast of Moscow on Monday, Emergencies Ministry sources told Russian media. Four people remain trapped in the building.

  31. If the man is that rich and cares for the people let him release even a k10,000 to help out the victims.

  32. Funny that as his boss is advocating for dialogue, GBM is busy telling us that the Upnd has no need to have discussions with the PF

    • HH show us your compassion by giving to the poor victims of fire even if your condition is not OK at the moment. I believe you can do it, it’s not about bribing for support but love for your people!

  33. SO FIRST GO THROUGH THE COURT PROCESS, THEN RESPECT YOURSELF LIKE OTHER OPPOSITION LEADERS
    ==================================
    You can either choose the scandalous behavior Savior CHISHIMBA has undertaken or the counsel role Peter SINKAMBA has taken or even the mute role Wynter KABIMBA has assumed but all in the work of checks n’ balances towards the August 11, 2021 polls. I hope the presidents Press Briefing is now firmly sinking in your head, HH. My worry, though, is your Veep GVBM insatiable appetite for violence. Damn, where did your pick that lunatic from. His language, looks and acts spell VIOLENCE in capital letters and your supporters sing resounding praise. It keeps us wondering. Change your devious ways HH. Your support for atrocious acts will not win you State House. Zambia…

  34. HH said he is not interested in the GNU because Zambia is not a failed state. His he at the same page with his bloggers who have been screening that Zambia is a failed state. Your supporters are the ones misleading you. Hh would’ve grown from under5 by now had it not being for his tribal supporters.
    In his post hh has not ruled out that the fire at market was an act of arsonists. He knows someone torched it that’s why he saying that security is porous. Am sure someone has told him Larry celebrated and encouraged for more fires.

  35. To those who are praying for our leaders, this is a message of hope. Let us continue to pray for wisdom and unity. Our leaders need our fervent prayers. Thank you HH.

  36. So it’s when hh decides to dialogue, then the rest of the country must fall in line?? We dont need you, political lumpen.This country has to move on without you.

    “We participated in the NCC because we believed it was for nation building…” THAT IS WHY YOU NEED TO REMIND YOUR DONKEYS THAT YOU KNEW ABOUT THE 14 DAY TIME LIMIT FROM THE NCC AND THAT YOU LOST THE ELECTIONS!!!!

  37. Hehehe! What a u-turn. So Zambia is not a failed state after all as he used to sing all the time with his disciples. The condition still stands baba – accept that UPND lost lamentably or should we say pants down in the last elections – thats all otherwise no dialogue. How do you dialogue with ECL if he is not the president according to you. So jere can teach people lessons ka. Continue learning boss – this is just the beginning of buying those extra senses you needed before calling for Armageddon.

  38. “UBUSHIKU BWALUBA UMUKOTE, NE CIMBWE CINYE MFWI, NINSHI CIMBWI CILILE”
    “ASENSELA ILYO KAWA”
    “UMWANA ASHUMFWA APOKELELE UMULEMBA MUKUTWI”
    “UKUTAMFYA LUNSHI PA MAFI, KUNYA PABILI”
    “UMWANA EKALISHA NGA ANYA”
    ….KIKIKIK HH IS “TRYING TO LOCK THE BARN AFTER THE HORSES HAVE FLED”

  39. Kikikikikikikikiki….hehehehehe….aheede!
    Zambians, has two weeks passed since I wrote here how the UPNDonkeys would turn around right here and contradict themselves? I said then that something is happening to underfive, and it was a matter of weeks before we start things happening and UPNDonkeys made to swallow their own droppings.
    However, my suggestion is to ignore underfive for now, I think he has felt the law catching up with him and wants to forestall another arrest. Let him chill for now, let us get to the bottom of this thing once and for all, for posterity and for lessons in stu.io.dity. Let the church mother bodies chill for another month or two, let the underfive come crawling, give him a chance to learn his lessons, otherwise he will repeat the rot as soon as he is out of…

  40. ….. give him a chance to learn his lessons, otherwise he will repeat the rot as soon as he is out of correction. Yes the correction is working! But not yet fully! Give him another six weeks to allow him fully convert back from Donkey!!

  41. More truthfully with ourselves, if underfive does not issue a public apology, let him pay for repairs of all what he has damaged and consequential losses, City market, Zesco pylons and cables, markets, DEB offices, court buildings, If he cannot pay by his money let pay in kind by “pika jele”, i.e. a jail term to do some work as a kaili. At the least since he may be broke now with lawyers bills, an apology with community service I, Terrible, can consider!!
    You UPNDonkeys do you have any shame? Look at your “opposite” comments, just from this afternoon!!! where is Spaka and NEZ? I told them this barely a few days ago.

  42. Now to
    1. GBM, dont be flatteted by underfive, read between the lines, he is telling you that he has abandoned you.
    2. Underfive, what is the dialogue all about? The dead “petition”? release from correction? Repentance for your sins of armageddon and volcanoes? You cant have just “dialogue”, ba underfive naimwe it has to be about something or else you will just be staring at each other. And whom do you want to dialogue with, since our President Lungu is not at your level? We will give you one or two ministers and then The President will sign the papers.

  43. HH should first publicly accept defeat, and then directly write to the ECL, directly and addressing him as “Your Excellence, The President of The Republic of Zambia”.

    UPND supporters, stop you aimless blogs, HH is diplomatically pleading for mercy. He has realised he and his party have made irreparable political blunders. The burning of City Market is a nail in UPND coffin

    • Why and just why? You are our society’s rotten elements sowing a seed of hate. Can’t you hear yourself? Please reform.

  44. If these guys think they can buy peace by violence that they have perpetrated since the elections results were announced they are very very wrong. It also shows how shallow they are. Why did it take so long for you HH to realise that the only way was to recognise a dully elected leader of the nation? Dundumwezi have seen through your schemes, your MPs have no message for their constituencies except misbehaviour in parliament. Please let the law take its course and then talk later. You cannot behave the way you did and then say let us talk shame. Someone has tipped him that Dundumwezi has seen the bigger picture beyond Hichilema.

  45. HH i cant buy yo cheap mind ,you think the way you swindle zed pipo on salling the mines cheaply and today with yo fake posts mudala forget ,you thot zed pipo will rise upon yo arrested but no ,get yo ideals right zambian are peace lover such that next elections if you will stand believe me retirement is obvious for u

  46. This is exactly what we saw in these thug sponsoring party individuals. Crime is crime is crime. We will be showing the world that you can commit murder by sponsoring thieves and turn around and say that you want peace. Govt and private property have been damaged. People have lost their income through your so called “Armageddon. It has been almost a year since his Excellency the president was sworn in, in an election all observers declared free and fair. All you did was just run in and out of court without a shred of evidence except to please your financiers. And NOW what are you going to talk about? Give us a break. Just announce that you concede defeat to ECL the only Head of state in Zambia and you must complete your court cases period.

  47. So HH, what are you planning to talk about?

    “UPND are not putting any conditions, if anyone is putting conditions, it is not UPND”

    But who said you are?

    “We are not looking for government of national unity”

    Who said you are?

    And some of you trying to use what you think is psychology;

    “I am non-partisan, I don’t vote but this man has wisdom”, what kind of sentence is that?

    Who said seeing wisdom is a privilege of the partisan – those who vote? What are you trying to say; are you speaking to kids.

    HH is trying to come out smart in very minor way, easy to notice it is fake.

  48. This is the worst opposition party Zambia has ever had, even the PF under Sata acted more maturely than this. You cannot be taken to state house of Zambia by Trump. Please your Excellency remain focused and do’t be controlled by this man who chose to take a different route than the one Zambians know. Cary on the good work of developing and uniting the nation. Go to Dundumwezi they are all eagerly waiting for you Your Excellency.

  49. A Day is the life of a Kaponya PF thief is hard I tell you……
    Even the resident PF kapoya thieves on LT, If they are not dreaming of HH day in Day out they are wondering what he will say next…….

    At first they were signing and dancing saying GBM has abandoned HH….where, GBM is still sticking to UPND principles….and attacking lungus corrupt rule

    Then now they are hoping to have broken HH….where, the man is still wrong footing lungu and his gang of thieves….

    your lies only highlights your imperfections…..

  50. This is an underfive donkey.
    Who is he to set conditions for dialogue? What he should do is send an emissary to state house with a message of willingness to talk. Then sit in your cell and wait for State house to invite you. Then H.E. will assign a suitable officer to meet him at his cells.

  51. ..”who are the majority anyway, convene and find solutions to problems that are affecting us as a country.”This extract from the UPND party leader Hakainde Hichilema’s speech is enough not to take this guy seriously” Which majority are you talking about?

  52. UPND Media Team…….can we pleas have more statements from HH…. just to keep the resident PF sponsored kaponya thieves on LT buzzing like the green flies attracted to sh.it which they are…….the chaps don’t know what to expect.

    They were hoping for a broken UPND and HH by now…

  53. “Chief Chikanta said the visit of the Republican President will provide an opportunity for him and traditional leaders to share the many challenges affecting the people in the area since Zambia’s independence in 1964.
    He revealed that the traditional leadership in Southern province has resolved to turn up in numbers to receive the Head of State when he visits the constituency this week”. This is more important news than having a chief Kaponya talk about dialogue almost a year since the HEAD of state was inaugurated. Wonder where HH has been?

  54. You senseless underfive donkey, did you have to get locked before you could think? Did you have to miss your madam to come to your sen.ses? Sorry you can remain with partners.
    I used to be amazed with UPNDonkeys and their leader, I mean amazed at their lack of a brain in the place they call head. But no more, today I would be shocked to be amazed at UPNDonkeys.

  55. You se.ns.el.ess underfive donkey, did you have to get locked up before you could think? Did you have to mis.s your madam to come to your sen.ses?

    I used to be amazed with UPNDonkeys and their leader, I mean amazed at their lack of a brain in the place they call head. But no more, today I would actually be shocked9

  56. hehehehe

    The PF green flies are buzzing like they have found shi.t to feast on….., they expected a broken HH……..
    sorree William….

  57. when we say HH is great you doubt us…..common, the man fought lungu with the whole GRZ at his disposal and still had to rig, even after spending $10 billion and using the worst violence ever…..now the PF sponsored kaponya bloggers on LT are even failing to sleep wondering what HH is thinking….you will lose you minds…becareful

  58. I will now address the sponsored resident PF kaponyas on LT as ”Green flies” scientific name Lucilia sericata…Kudos, Mr terribl, onenation , njimbu, khakis et al …the Green PF flies…

    Those that you see swarming around faeces…….because only when you see anything to do with HH , they appear. sometimes even a topic that does not concern HH, you see them buzzing his name.

    • Indeed you only find these PF green flies I have mentioned by name buzzing around hoping HH will do a number two….other wise the green flies of PF come swarming when they see his name…..we even have the green fly Mr terrible asking above about what’s in the bucket in the jail where HH is….

  59. Is HH suggesting that there should be tight security at all Zesco Pylons that his cadres are destroying? Anyway it is good that you sound recognising Mr Lungu’s government as you refered to it “The PF government ” Hope you will start to respect those in Authority. However, talking about yourself and GBM selling whatever you were selling sounds fooling people who lost their way of living. Your ranches were not burnt, you are still selling your beef even outside the country. Mr Mwamba owns trucks and millings which have never been touched by fire. Wilatumfya abantu Hichilema even in prison you eat well while those people are suffering.

  60. GBM AND CHAMA WERE SELLING DRUGS LIKE VERNOM MWAANGA

    YOU STOLE MONEY WHEN YOU VALUED CENTRE PIVOTS WORTH $30000.00 EACH AS SCRAP WORTH k100.00 AND QUICKLY BOUGHT THEM.
    YOU STOLE MONEY WHEN YOU UNDER VALUED EVERYTHING THAT YOU WERE INTERESTED IN DURING PRIVATIZATION.
    YOU ARE NOW DISGRACED WITH YOUR ARMAGEDDON
    SHAME ON YOU
    BUT IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS GENUINE, I FORGIVE YOU AND FOR THE SAKE OF PEACE LET THE PRESIDENT CONSIDER YOUR PLEA

  61. Mr underfive, too little too late, as if it was not enough for you to kill Mazoka’s UPND party, now you have damaged your own UPNDonkeys “party”. It is suffering from a chronic incurable genetic donkey disease arising from a failed attempt to cross breed with a fat donkey…….kikikikikiki.
    Any way, good morning uko ku correction.

    Why is Mutinta so quiet? What a heartless husband, no thoughts for his own loving wife and her lovely children. He now loves GBM and his wife Chama more, imagine no word of love to his wife in the whole statement but plenty of affectionate comments on others. Probably the side effects of correction facility.

  62. WHAT ABOUT ARMAGEDDON THAT YOU PROMISED.TELL US ABOUT IT.
    ARMAGEDDON IS DEFINED AS ANY CATASTROPHICALLY DESTRUCTIVE BATTLE AND GOING BY WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW,WE CAN HONESTLY SAY YOUR WORDS HAVE COME TO PASS.CROCODILE TEARS WON’T HELP UPND NOW.THE DAMAGE IS JUST TOO MUCH.

  63. He realises that his party is dented. Why ask PF to come up with a recovery program when he is responsible, after all he calms to be rich. If he really cares let him donate something. Such talk is a mockery. This sadist, evil, heartless, power hungry Satanist. I distaste him so so much. TO LATE THE DAMAGED CAUSED IS UNFORGIVABLE.

  64. Sincerely speaking, I thank and commend HH for condemning the burning of City market. BUT HH should have condemned the burning of peoples’ houses, courts and markets in the recent past by suspected UPND cadres and they would have obeyed his command. But alas! HH kept silent all along and his cadres kept committing these atrocities with impunity since they felt that their boss was in support of their actions. Now that the biggest market in the country has been burnt to ashes, it’s too late. It is only sensible for HH to retract ARMAGEDDON and apologize to the Zambians otherwise he should forget about winning an election in Zambia.

  65. Sincerely speaking, I thank and commend HH for condemning the burning of City market. BUT HH should have condemned the burning of peoples’ houses, courts and markets in the recent past by suspected UPND cadres and they would have obeyed his command. But alas! HH kept silent all along and his cadres kept committing these atrocities with impunity since they felt that their boss was in support of their actions. Now that the biggest market in the country has been burnt to ashes, it’s too late. It is only sensible for HH to retract ARMAGEDDON and apologize to the Zambians otherwise he should forget this about winning an election in Zambia.

  66. Sincerely speaking, I thank and commend HH for condemning the burning of City market. BUT HH should have condemned the burning of peoples’ houses, courts and markets in the recent past by suspected UPND cadres and they would have obeyed his command. But alas! HH kept silent all along and his cadres kept committing these atrocities with impunity since they felt that their boss was in support of their actions. Now that the biggest market in the country has been burnt to ashes, it’s too late. It is only sensible for HH to retract ARMAGEDDON and apologize to the Zambians otherwise he should forget this about winning an election in Zambia.

  67. No, Counselor! HH has realized that this fire will damage the little popularity of UPND. It’s crocodile tears Sir.

  68. Just as a reminder to those calling HH a thief, in Zambia we use the British system of law. One is innocent till proven guilty. As a citizen of this country, you can take the guy to court if you believe he stole from you. Take interest in researching and stop relying on nkani za mumoba. why are we so retarded in thinking? whenever a Zambian becomes successful, ni satanist, he is a thief and so on. Take him to court and stop bothering us fo once. Information which can not be put to use is useless

  69. First Agenda item: Please restore all the property and Goods burnt belonging to the TAX PAYERS and the POOR. The bill is $2,000,000.00.

  70. My word HH. That’s where you are wrong. Your pride will get you nowhere near a dialogue table.

    You are setting conditions by excluding conditions. So long you don’t accept the declaration that ECL is the duly elected President of Zambia, you have thrown an obstacle in the way of dialogue.

    The way to go is accept the declaration, and then go to court to challenge his election. If it is proven he lost, then you and us will withdraw our recognition of ECL as incumbent President of Zambia, fire the ECZ, and proceed to elect a new President, and it could be you, provided you are not barred from running again for constitutional reasons.

    And, no I am not a member of any political party, and slave to look after my family.

  71. Development prevails only where there is Love, Unit, Peace.
    Zambia as declared a Christian nation should foster the above tenets.
    Hebrews 12:14
    “Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord.”

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