Police in Kitwe shut down Former Copperbelt Minister Mwenya Musenge’s Pub

1. There is nothing wrong with this.

   The Policw are fair and square between PF, UPND and anything else.

   They are there to make sure me and order is maintained in the country.

   Suggesting this is a directive from PF is absurd, suggesting it is from Lungu is wishful thinking and suggesting it is from the Govenmebt is foolhardy.

   This is simply the Police and musebge has abrogated the same law you and anyone else abide by.

   Condemn him.

   I have a PhD

   Thanks

   BB2014,2016

   • PF leaders are childish. Guess they think they will be in power for life. What goes around comes around. Time will come for them also..

2. There is nothing wrong with this

   Thanks

   BB2014,2016

   • This is so childish by the president and his machinery. They need to act wise even when they are abusing the law. The problem is that the President and his PF have sunk themselves in the cloud of power that they can act without shame and sense.
     There is a better way of fixing your enemies with wisdom. There is no shame in the way PF are acting.

   • Zambia…. Again PF and its president has nothing to do with the Musenge’s businesses sabotage.

   • There is really nothing wrong with this but everyone knows that while he was a member of PF and a minister he carried on in the same way without any sanctions. A former PF Defence Minister owns a hotel in Lusaka which is used as a brothel. As long as he is PF, he is ok, but it will be raided by police and Lusaka City Council on the day he is found on the other side of politics.

   • There is nothing wrong. Even my favourite spot Keg has been closed. Why politicizing Musenge`s pub leaving out the other closed ones? Be objective for a second ba shetani imwe

   • I am just wondering if all the pubs closed belong to musenge. I don’t know why comments are only showing support to musenges pub. If musenge was acting within the stipulated regulations his pub would have been spared like many which are still operating.

   • There is nothing wrong to close a pub if it’s not compliant with the regulation.
     But unfortunately, this article is to blame, since it has political aspect attached to it. Why put out such a heading focused on one person? So I am not surprised, there will be tit for tat here between UPND and PF cadres. The article doesn’t even mention which regulation for which those pubs were not compliant, but very quick to mention how many cases of beer and bottles of spirit were confiscated. Which is irrelevant.
     Who is this article trying to serve? Is it PF cadres on the fact that Musenge was using his premise for political agitation to his to be new party OR UPND cadres to show how ECL machinery is trying to silence its opponents? Blind cadres will fight it out.

   • IT is very wrong to close it up now. this is not the way to do things.

   • Other Pubs may just be collateral in an otherwise well Orchestrated move. Such tactics are know even some Murderers use this tactic … they will seemingly kill other people and in the process the real target to throw off investigators who may believe its a trend in an area.. so the person is never suspected since you cannot directly establish motive.

   • @PP, you just wake up anf see the headline without reading the contents and start displaying your ignorance. Take time and read the contents or the information given by Kitwe city council spokesman then go and brush your teeth and wash your face. Ubutuutu pa Zed.!

   • P F0000ls (PF), what a rotteni and insecure party of Z0mbies!

     Ba ficol0our you have taken this country to ancient ages…….

   • *Yawwwwwwn* That felt really good.

     We have too many bars, councils should swing in and close all of them if possible. And they should ensure no one sells alcohol on Sundays and before 5 pm on other days.The late President MCS, may his soul rest in peace, despite being of low education understood this very well. I don’t think Mr Pombe sees a problem with a citizenry that is preoccupied with being constantly intoxicated.

     More libraries and cafe’s are required. That is where useful ideas are generated.

   • Why was the pub not closed a long time ago? This is just PF under Lungu trying to clamp down on it’s major opponents using the police and other law enforcement agencies . As saying goes ,’politics always end up in failure at some point. ‘ Lungu will end up running away from his shadows in future .

   • Bars in ZAMBIA are filthy in general.
     ALL WHO ENTER THESE PREMISES ARE CONDEMNED.

   • This is nonsense. You Africans better learn something from your political masters since you have adopted their democracy. When you are in power you don’t fight the business interests of your enemies. That is crass behavior.
     Donald Trump doesnt interfere with Hilary Clinton’s business interests. He wont have the time to but also the laws in America will protect Trump’s political enemies. He is a president of both his political foes and his friends. Everytime someone in Zambia rubs the ruling party the wrong way they block his business interests, his passport will be blacklisted, he will then be charged for corrupt practices that they couldnt charge him for while he was in power. Be it Lungu, Chiluba, Sata, Mwanawasa, banda all of them behave like nincompoops

3. There you go the same dictator you propped up and groomed has now began to make you feel the taste of your own medicine.

   Those still supporting Lungu’s dictatorship should know that, in the next cycle they will be tossed out and made to endure Lungu ‘s dictatorship.

   Free HH now or else.

   • Or else what you dummmmy!!

   • PF sycophants have no sense of shame!

   • Musenge like many politicians was taking advantage of been in the ruling party to get away from complying with many regulations and now time has caught up with him. Chingola council started this exercise two months ago and if Musenge was found wanting, he should face the consequences just like the other businessmen.

   • What do you think you can do?

4. Keep underfive locked up or else!

5. The lungu pettiness has begun. Lungu is a very jealous individual. He is very insecure and one can tell that he has a small p.e.n.i.s. very childish man.

   • Nez.. Kikikiki.mwebantu!;

6. Nothing unusual. Sone pubs have been warned to stick to stipulated hours up to 22hrs for example and not operate like night clubs. And are UPNDonkeys saying that illigality should be condoned if it is Mwenya Mysenge or underfive’s bar? In fact some of the affected residents both party or partless near some pubs are the ones who complained. Musenge is simply caught up in that illegality. And if the threatened emergency police powers is helpibg bring sanity to our townships then it is good. Keep it up!
   And please please please keep underfive locked unless he is freed by the high court, no dialogue until the law takes its course…..signed. Terrible 4-8-17.

7. SOME PAID BLOGGERS ARE SO DULL THAT THEY EVEN FAIL TO READ SIMPLE ENGLISH. 27 PREMISES WERE CLOSED INCLUDING MMs PUB. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT? IN FACT IF HIS PUB WAS NOT CLOSED EVERY UPNDonkey WAS GOING TO SCREAM “CORRUPTION.”

   • bakolwe ne michila mwaya sana!!

8. I predict that NEZ will die soon before the law catches up with him. Society does not allow such people amobg it does it? I mean if some Zambian tribes even kill their old parents grannies and uncles for suspected witchcraft just because of their old age what more NEZ the real Witch Donkey of the UPNDonkeys?

   • Your filthy hospitals will not cure you from poverty hunger and disease.

   • Thanks to my follower. Please continue schooling these pf monkeys

9. It seems politics is big news in Zambia otherwise this should just read Kitwe city council closes bars and tarvens not following the law simple. Who the owner is matters less.

10. “Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it only has one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear” – Harry S. Truman. Noushalimo akabamo! Say NO to repression and Dictatorship!

11. Please everyboby will know what is going? the question is when did these pub start operating and all of sudden the have violated compliance procedures..this is obvious because it happened at the Particular time which is convenient. PF will go down in history as a “mary-go-round” you can not be lucky or chance all the time. TIME

    • Lazy Lungu is a coward…he arrested Saviour so he spends the long weekend in the Police cells!!

12. Repression is like suppression: you restrain, inhibit, or subdue something. Not allowing women to vote is a perfect example of political repression. If you have trouble expressing your feelings and keep things bottled up, then emotional repression is a big part of your personality. People often turn to repression because they’re scared of what will happen if they say what’s on their mind. Unfortunately, political and emotional repression can often lead to anger and even violence.

13. Keg and Coppersmith has been closed.. that should be the news.. How can such an established ‘establishment’ not be in compliance with simple council???

14. upnd is now completely demonically posessd of hatred.there is a man who is a upnd stounch and is paralyzed from shock jst afta 2016 election result.so bane be careful hatred can lead to death so..

15. Musenge’s bar is death trap unless you haven’t been there. It survived closure because he was minister.

    • How many people has pf police killed and how many have died in musenges pub. Please k.a.n.y.e.le kutali

    • NEZ, never mind about these P F0000ls paid indiotees.

      This site has been infuriated by hungry hyena cadres, blogging from kalingalinga compound on empty tummies.

    • Useless to comment.

16. iyee……! Ngalyonse ili balikwi ba kitwe city council?? Wonders shall never end in our country.

17. Mwenya Musenge mwebantu is not a factor on the Copperbelt. Even to become an MP it was coz of PF. He cant go any where and not worth to be publicized.

18. ububupa ubu in the country

19. yes @ Mr p i wonder what the full name is , maybe paanniiiyoo well just concentrate on your internal wrangles from ur party upnd is upnd , pf is pf never talk about other parties

20. The real question is just how far Edgar Lungu and the New PF will go to silence others. Frankly, mess with each others’ dreams but not each others’ livelihoods. As for the Police, there is a fundamental misunderstanding of their duties and seem to align politically. The Police should not be abused such that they lose independence. If both parties or rather all parties follow the provisions of the constitution, the Police is likelier to be neutral. Here we have an abusive and intrusive, authoritarian regime and a self- absorbed and incensed opposition. Let us realize that power corrupts good morals and remember that tables surely turn.

21. The question is ,”WHY NOW?”. Where was the council and the Police all this time.
    Something is not right. Truth be told ….Like the blind Bartimaeus i can now see!!!!.

    Chili ekotuleya

    Peace.

    • Bully, bully, bully, bully, bully, bully, bully period.

22. The coward Lazy Lungu strikes AGAIN!!

23. those who are saying the council also closed other clubs are completly lost. the fact is that they have just done that to cover up so that people can say its an exercise otherwise why now. in my local launguage we say ubushiku bufwile umukote chimbwi anyemfwi. Don`t forgert when Jesus was born Herod hard the intention of killing him, so he ordered that all male children should be killed. the main intention was that in the process Jesus will be killed with everybody thinking its all male children .

24. Please close every Bar, Tarven, Night Club, where they produce large sound music especially at Changa Nami. Too much ifiko.

25. I meant Changa Namai Area. Too Much tu ma Bottle Stores:

26. @7.2 NEZ, we thought that UPNDonkeys stopped using the term “bemba monkey” when underfive imposed GBM as your vice president, running mate and successor to the UPNDonkey throne? This obviously thoughtless and impulsive reaction by yourself confirms that the tribal in you donkeys will never didappear.

    • NEZ and Chilyata are not sane

27. Very unfortunate for anyone to sink this low!
    For your information, the council first carries out inspections before closing any place for lack of compliance.
    Confiscating items and using this brutality is the very last resort.
    I dont know why anybody should be worried about a guy who cant even win an election at constituency level making his own party!

28. PF is working no more illegality pa Zed. By 2021 this country will be perfect and we are going to VOTE PF HAGAIN.

29. wapya baisa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

30. Lungu’s vindictiveness is suffocating! He is surely one hell of a vindictive little prick and I hope he will sooner than later be made to pay for all these heinous crimes he is committing against all his political adversaries. His insecurity is honestly what leads to very violent ends for political dictators in Africa. He should know that the day of reckoning for all this is coming when he will have to answer for all his stinking sins. As for the likes of Mushota, you honestly wonder what could derive any normal human being to keep on pasting such stinking excrement on the web? Not even a bare pass graduate from the UNZA school of humanities could be so bankrupt of the ability to reason logically, I mean, not even a perpetual erection like VJ has could dement anyone so bad. Aya eka ni…

31. … mashabe oipisisa

32. Sad indeed for all 27 traders. LT we need professional reporting. Why single out one in the headline? Lets not politicize everything. Councils too must realize, grabbing of belongings is not the best solution. We just need to suspend operations pending compliance review. The act of grabbing capital resource is just killing SMEs.

33. What the F is this? Who’s ruling Zambia, the ghost of Kamuzu Banda?

34. When you know you are in conflict with regulation or law better keep quiet. Ask Post Newspaper.

35. If you have defective feet, be careful with the way you dance.

36. This means that most of the lawmakers in the ruling party do not abide by the law. They can do anything as long as they are in ruling party nothing is wrong. This clearly shows there are alot of corrupt practices and abuse of power in this party. Shame on you guys.

37. So when you are in politics you can break every rule – its ok. And when you are cornered you say I am being victimised. What a life.
    I find this utter nonsense where politicians should think they dont need to be visited by the law no matter how mant laws they have broken and when they are visited they start insulting the president. Just grow up and stop complaining when you know you are in the wrong. Atase!

38. Upnd is an unprincipled party. I remember how they yelled for Musenge’s blood and how pressured for his removal as copperbelt minister. Or maybe they don’t mean or know what they say. Today he’s a hero. To them any means justifies the end not the other way round.

    • @Ndanje Khakis,
      I am not UPND, but objectively looking at this case there could be politics behind this, the timing is suspect.
      As I indicated before above, there is nothing wrong to close the bar if it’s not compliant, i think even the dumbest UPND cadre should understand that. I don’t think this is orchestrated from higher PF, but there is a motive by those lower down. Now that Musenge is no longer PF, it’s easy for any cadre to implicate Musenge, and this is what is happening. Why was his bar not closed a year ago? Why now? Non-compliance wouldn’t just come up within a day. This is not incidental. And if you look around the lockup that is going on, it can only be PF who would not see through any politics being played here. Do not pretend to be blind.

    • I am not talking about the closure here. I am referring to the turnaround by upnd members comments on LT. Principled people don’t condone lawlessness just because someone has become an enemy of your enemy. I condemned Musenge for being implicated in maize meal smuggling even though he was a minister. My opinion about hasn’t changed.

39. It is okay! He is trying to cut the fingers that feed him!

40. All these happenings is very childish and immature, why should we behave like animals sure, even animals have morals.People might be clever now but things will turn down wait and see

41. This is nonsense. You African better learn something from your political masters since you have adopted their democracy. When you are in power you dont fight the business interests of your enemies. Donald Trump doesnt interfere with Hilary Clinton’s business interests. He wont have the time to but also the laws in America will protect Trump’s political enemies. He is a president of both his political foes and his friends. Everytime someone in Zambia rubs the ruling party the wrong way they block his business interests, his passport will be blacklisted, he will then be charged for corrupt practices that they couldnt charge him for while he was in power. Be it Lungu, Chiluba, Sata, Mwanawasa, all of them behave like nincompoops

42. Does it mean that all these pubs that hs bn closed belongs to musenge or enemies of of?

43. Childish acts of our leadership…shae..shame..shame..May it be done to them all as they have done. Why be malicious, covetious and stiffnecked??? Then you call yourself a leader?

44. I am amazed that a number of bloggers cannot ‘see’ the ‘coincidence’. This has absolutely nothing to do with compliance rules. He is dismissed from the PF and suddenly his bar doesn’t comply? The other closures are smoke screens. When did the council last carry out such an exercise and what was the result? And evidently Musenge’s bar had nothing wrong with it then. As some bloggers have stated, this the low of the lowest – from a pathetic paranoid concoction of so-called leaders.
    Some of you will continue to blindly live in denial until tyranny actually bites your butts!

45. Since when did he stop abiding by the rules and regulations…..Zambia nifimbi apa manje

46. In this country for as long as you have some kind of power you can run a pub without abiding by stipulated regulations….sad thing is the council moving in on Musenge when they know he has no shield….

47. There are a lot of these Pub landlords that are committing non compliance crimes. Some of them even operate in other peoples premises. It’s good to know the police are acting to pick them up.

    Shut them down and Lock them up!

48. Zambia will remain poor for a very long time. Council has failed to remove street vendors but you are busy abusing innocent citizens whom you can easily talk to. If we say this is politics you say no, what crap.

49. Good move. The councils through out the country should also regulate the operating time of bars. We can not have bars opening as early as 08:00 every day. What time will be productive. There should also be restriction regarding trading in alcoholic beverages. In Zambia people sell alcohol everywhere any how including filling stations, groceries shops and tu temba’s. This should end. Its no wonder people even consume alcohol and other intoxicating substances on public transport resulting into unruly behavior and littering of empty bottles of cheap alcohol.

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