South Africa’s opposition Democratic Alliance leader Mmusi Maimane has refused to meet President Edgar Lungu saying he will only do so if the Zambian President commits to a programme that works to restore Zambia’s democracy.
Zambian High Commissioner to South Africa Emmanuel Mwamba had earlier issued a statement that President Lungu has summoned Mr Maimane and EFF leader Julius Malema to a meeting in Johannesburg over their statements regarding Zambia’s governance.
In a statement, Mr Mwamba had said that President Lungu was eager to meet the two opposition leaders because they have appeared to disrespect Zambia’s sovereignty and have interfered in its domestic affairs with their statements.
“I wish to confirm that we contacted the political parties telephonically and proceeded to make formal written requests. The two leaders have in principle accepted to meet His Excellency President Edgar Lungu in Pretoria or Lusaka even at short notice or day suitable when the President is available to meet them,” said Ambassador Mwamba.
But in a statement, Mr Maimane conformed that a formal invitation had been sent to his office but said he would not meet President Lungu unless he lifted the threatened state of emergency among other things.
“I have noted Zambian President Edgar Lungu’s public appeal to schedule a meeting with me this weekend while he is in South Africa attending the Southern African Development Community (SADC) Summit in Pretoria. The Zambian High Commission has also made contact with my office to formally request such a meeting,” Mr Maimane said.
He added, “I will only agree to meet with President Lungu if he publicly commits to a programme that works to restore Zambia’s democracy.”
“This must include lifting the 90-day state of emergency; reconvening Parliament; restoring the independence of the justice system; ensuring the media is free from suppression and intimidation; and ending the oppressive treatment of the opposition in Zambia. Furthermore, an apology must be made to Mr Hakainde Hichilema, the Leader of the Opposition, who was arrested on trumped up treason charges and detained for almost four months in the most inhumane conditions – only for the charges to dropped as baseless,” he said.
“Under President Lungu, Zambia is fast heading towards a dictatorship. The country is still under a state of emergency, characterised by “increased security measures” and the suppression of free speech and press freedom. Opposition party members have been arrested en masse, and opposition members are still not present in Parliament.”
He said, “Part of my work as Leader of the Democratic Alliance (DA) and Chairperson of the Southern African Platform for Democratic Change (SAPDC) is to work constructively with leaders, form both governing and opposition parties of democratic states in the SADC region.
That said, we must ensure that those who we work with are committed to democratic practices such as human rights, constitutionalism, and the rule of law.”
“Having consulted with Mr Hichilema and the United Party for National Development (UNPD), I am well aware of the deteriorating state of democracy in Zambia, and I will constructively engage with all sides who are genuinely committed to reversing this trend.”
Mr Maimane said, “The SADC Summit, which is being hosted in South Africa, presents an opportune moment for the South African Government to condemn and act against leaders in the region – and across the continent – who continue to undermine democracy and commit human rights violations.”
“Africa’s prosperity will only be fully realised when ‘big men’ humble themselves by submitting to the institutions and laws of democracy, and work towards building for their people and future generations.”
This guy is nuts. Who does he think he is. Meddling in other countries affairs with no shame. Our president should not be seen pleading with marubbish yamu South Africa. This thing called maimane has no brains just organising anarchy both at home and abroad. Not to mention Malema. What a waste of a human being!.
The best was to meet him and raise those concerns in person. Lost opportunity if ask me Maimane
You deport someone at your airport on arrival then after a month you go to their country and say let’s talk …where have you been Lazy Lungu when they were calling you out? Big respect to him for snubbing this Lazy Bum who thinks he is a king.
Mainlane is a nobody.
It’s like me being snubbed by MB or someone like jay jay.
It’s water under the bridge.
This guy is not as educated as I am.
I wouldn’t even sleep with him.
Thanks
BB2014,2016
What’s all the fuss about musi’s refusal to meet Jonathan Lungu?
Isn’t it the same lungu who didn’t allow him to enter zambia?
Chiwamila mbuzi ku luma galu ai?
The boy is a scared stiff outright coward.
He could not gather enough courage to face President Lungu in his own country.
Just as well.
HE IS AN 1DIOT. WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS? ZAMBIA IS NOT SOUTH AFRICA. ZAMBIA HAS A DEMOCRACY EVEN SURPASSING THE WESTERN COUNTRIES. IF YOU ARE IN DOUBT AS AMERICA’S TRUMP. THERE’S NO ONE DICRIMINATED IN ZAMBIA. AFRICANS ARE DISCRIMINATED AND BUTCHERED/STONED/SET-ABLAZE, IN SOUTH AFRICA. MINORITY AMERICANS ARE HEAVILY DISCRIMINATED AGAINST IN THE USA. NAMA SHINSHI PAMUNYANGALA TAYALAPWA NIWEBO ULECITA QUESTION ZAMBIA’S DEMOCRACY. GO TO HELL OR MAYBE TO SCHOOL YOUNG MAN.
@Peter – What democracy? A democracy where a cabinet full of grade 12s meets and passes laws …really laughable
Its unnecessary Presidential gesture to eccentric miscreants. By all common sense and reality, President Lungu is being too nice in opening up to these rascals. Giving them an audience would be a terrible precedence for regional Governments. This gesture risks emboldening every lunatic fueling an era of chaos with such fantasizing themselves on regional Governments. Its even strategic and much befitting to meet Zambians intellectuals on foreign and domestic soils who are patriotic and capable of driving unparalleled Think Tank ideas with value to the national state than these self seeking empty headed gongs.
PF minions hold your fire. Its PF s craving for attention that has landed ka chakolwa Lungu into a shameful conundrum. Lungu invited those guys to meet him. Its their democratic right to say NO if they dont want. If they insult Zuma in parliament for corruption ,who does Ka chakolwa Lungu think he is?
PF minions always want to think Ka Lungu should command every one at a flick of a finger and they all rush to meet him. In countries where democray is still very much live like SouthAfrica, a leader like Lungu has no shred of respect because of his stupidity tyranny.
I told Lungu to fire certain people around him then I will begin to respect him. Lungu knows the people I listed that should go for him to restore his lost credibility in Zambia and internationally.
If Lungu does not…
If Lungu does not head my advice then he will continue being disrespected.
I hope he will not now arrest HH for receiving a thunderous welcome in South Africa.
VIVA HH and UPND.
It’s Lungu who requested a meeting not maimane . The entire president wanting to dialogue with an opposition leader of a foreign country. Who is marubbish? Lungu of course! !
@1.5 grundix
Was lungu brave enough to meet the ‘boy’ in Zambia ?
Musi has just given Lungu a taste of his own stupidity.
Remember the way Musi was hounded out of Zambia when he wanted to visit his colleague HH in jail?
PF minions have a memory like that of a chicken which after chasing it for the pot returns back when lured with food .
All PF zealots should seriously have their heads examined .Lungu has completely brainwashed them.
An own goal by Edgar Lungu. South Africa is South Africa. It is not Uganda.
Well done Mmusi Maimane, you have positively demonstrated that you have more concern for the well-being of the People of Zambia than Lungu and his coorupt heartless cohorts have!
If there were a few more like you in Africa it would be a different place. And the looters of State resources would be too ashamed to show their faces at the SADC Summit. It would change from being a DICTATORS CLUB into a real tool for the development of Africa and improvement of the lives of million of poor people that have been stolen from for so long.
@1.8 Jay Jay,
Could this explain why Mushota said he would never mind being snubbed by people like yourself?
Where does it say that democracy is only whete MPs are educated beyond grade twelve?
Our thinking must be very interesting I guess.
@Mushota firstly Maimane is not in the same class with you. Neither are you among the great thinkers and I shudder to think why you have over -estimated yourself as an upstart! I am embarrassed for our own ECL that even Malema totally ruled meeting our own EL!
Hold your fire you who feel hurt that Maimane has refused to meet the Zambian president and what should be of your interest is to see whether the South African government will chide or arrest Maimane for being “rude” to the Zambian president! Why wouldd Lungu in the first place want to meet with Maimane and Malemaa? For expressing their opinion on Zambia from their comfort of their sovereign state? There are some in the developed countries who will give the two M’s a thumbs up for coming out hard on what seems to be condemnation on how some African heads of state govern since the western world has had enough of poor governance on the African continent!
@RudeMonk don’t be silly: Lungu is the one who is Nuts?? South Africans have the right to talk about injustices that Lungu and his PF government are doing. We as Zambian helped our South African brothers and sister to fight apartheid similarly if wrong things are being done to Zambians, they can help us. Zambian democracy is at the verge of collapse. We need to restore it.. WELL DONE MAIMANE.
PF minions should understand why these two SA opposition leaders are condemning the rise of dictatorship in Zambia, Zim and other countries while Zuma is quiet.
The two leader are not happy that people have to run away from their countries to live SA because of dictatorships in their countries. So to avoid an influx of refugees in SA they are putting pressure on the leadership of these countries to change their ways and let true democracy to prevail. Their approach to solving the refugee crisis in SA is a sensible one unlike Zuma’s butcher the foreigner principle endorsed by dictators of those countries from which huge numbers of refugees are coming from.
I strongly support Musi and Malema. I wish they could organise a huge march to protest against the buying of huge properties…
In fact I did warn Lungu and his PF minions to expect revenge by deporting Musi the DA leader. They did not listen. Instead of apologising to him they decided to treat him like a kid this time by summoning him to a meeting with Chakolwa Lungu. How preposterous!
I strongly support Musi and Malema. I wish they could organise a huge march to protest against the buying of huge properties by these dictators in SA which is distorting the SA property market.
By the way I have heard they are indeed in the process of organising a huge march against these African tyrants.
VIVA DA EFF and UPND.
Manemane , Malemane and Hungry Hyena will all never be presidents but just yapping puppies
Manemane , Malemane and Hungry Hyena will all never be presidents but just yapping puppies
He can go to hell, he thinks he is more important than Obasanjo, Scotland, the catholic bishops and all the other Zambians of goodwill.
Why did you deport him then? You had PF media team insulting them today you want to talk to them…
He simply doesn’t want to be contaminated by foolish people like Lungu who has no idea of what leadership is.
What bothers me is not the 2 young SA boy’s refusal to meet our president who some of you love and some of you hate. Rather it is the continuous exposure of the PRESIDENCY to embarrassing situations by Mwamba and other overzealous, attention-seeking carders. That worries me because the stain they leave behind is permanent. Is Mwamba not the same carder who misled our president into not only pardoning kanene from prison but making him a GBV ambassador, only for him to repay the favour by beating up a woman 24hrs later. My advice to H.E. ECL is please get rid of these carders and surround yourself with professionals, they are plenty in MMD and PF. These carders whose only interest is “muzungu/aLungu anikonde” will one day cause you some irreversible damage. Let he who has ears hear…
“…..because they have appeared to disrespect Zambia’s sovereignty and have interfered in its domestic affairs with their statements.”
Lazy Lungu what a dull man you are….you speak of sovereignty when it suits you, is it not your PF police that kicked out this man at the airport now you want him for a photo opportunity.
Jj try zwd my friend. You can’t be supporting Under5s unless you are one. What sense do you see in these under5 politicians. That boy is fit to be your young brother even a your son who is showing tendencies of disrespecting leadership of other countries. Who are sout Africans to tell us about democracy. These boys are beaten by security in parliament for been stupid and you are busy nyonyo this nyonyo that.
Why should I try ZWD? I have been blooging since 2009 on here why?Is it because I have a different opinion to yours…do you want to throw me in jail like what you did to poor Saviour Chishimba?
These PF rats think anyone in opposition should crawl for them, any young politician should kneel before them……unless monkyies
@ 3.1 HH OVAL HEAD
He said “I will only agree to meet with President Lungu if he publicly commits to a programme that works to restore Zambia’s democracy.”
Which part of that does your misshapen brain not understand?
Or maybe you just do not believe in DEMOCRACY ???
The opinion of Democratic Alliance leader Mr Maimane is constructive and progressive. This emanates from the freedom of expression the South African government upholds. There is nothing treasonous, abusive or disrespect in that opinion. The Zambian president Mr EC Lungu can learn something from that statement even though Mr Maimane is not yet president of South Africa. African leaders must learn to respect constructive opinions expressed by those opposing them as wisdom is not the preserve of heads of states and president Lungu is a candidate to such lecture.
@Muna, are you sincerely saying its not a good thing for Maimane to meet ECL and discuss with him what he feels is going wrong in Zambia? I am surprised that you can encourage such attitude from Maimane.
Maimane should be a leader,accept ECLs offer and engage in dialogue.It is a priviledge and an honour for ECL to grant him the opportunity.How do you address the the listed demands without engaging in dialogue ? Leaders should always engage in dialogue to resolve problems affecting the people.Dialogue,dialogue and always dialogue and Africa would be a happier place!
LOL
Where was Lazy Lungu a month ago …you want to dialogue now? RSA is not a place where you wrongfully arrest people then just suspend the case…you have to be in their mindset, Zambians do not know true freedom!!
There is nothing anyone can discuss with Lungu. Leave maimane alone. He did well to keep away from this despicable human being you have for a president
When this man came on the political scene I thought South Africa finally have a future president to take over from Zuma. I was so convinced that DA will win elections. I thought he was sincere when he wanted to attend HH court cases. But just this statement he has made shows that he is just an arrogant man who thinks too highly of himself. Maimane if you don’t talk with people you think are doing things in a wrong way. How do you hope to correct what you think is not right in African leadership? I disappointed in you maimane. I think south africa is better off with ANC than this man.
But you deported him like a criminal at the airport…did you apologize to him? You think he is a docile as you are…really laughable!!
@dominion:
************Lungu deported Maimane when he came to Zambia and treated him like rubish! ******deleted******
@Dominion! You should have told lungu what you have just said before he thought of the silly thing of deporting maimane at the airport.
@6.1, 6.2, 6.3 – He came in as a criminal and was treated as such. But the President accorded him the respect and the small boy put his tail between his legs. Politics is not for babies. The boy feared to meet ECL when given an opportunity – really foolish chap. Anyway, he knew very well that HE ECL was going to put him in his place face-to-face.
My money ,my choice Maimane .Why don’t focus on the corrupt Jacob Zuma instead?
BIG COWARD,He knew that EL will tell them off, BIG COWARD just like gbm
Lungu was the coward in Zambia….
Lungu was going to be put in right place.
Foolish ……prostitute of imperialists
An opportunity lost by Maimane. His source of information about the situation in Zambia has been from the opposition and the media. Scotland and Obasanje had to get more facts on the situation in Zambia for them to understand the reallity. The percieved dictatorship being preached is being felt by those who want to pepertrait violence and lawlessness.
“…had to get more facts on the situation in Zambia for them to understand the reality.” What facts?
Those RSA opposition leaders have done their job…what more opportunity do they need to speak to Lazy Lungu who just wants a photo opportunity.
Moreover they are too busy to meet a lazy bum who has too much time on his hands.
Ka jj musi and julius are not leaders. Those are just stupid arrogant chaps playing to the gallery. Ask anyone in sa why they beat them in parliament, they will tell you they are 1diots. And you’re busy calling them leaders my foot. Those boys will grow old without getting close to the presidency. Presidency in sa is the reserve for the zulu. That’s why Mandela was not their favourite being a xotsa.
So if they are nobodys why is Head of State in the name of Lazy Lungu wanting to meet them..really laughable how shortsighted you are, no wonder everything is in utter shambles!!
Ka jj you are just exposing how shallow you are by supporting these non entities. Firstly no one respects them in their own country and you a zambian busy praising their stupidity. Stop embarrassing zambians my friend. If you’re an 1diot like them go to sa and sing praise for them in parliament and you will be beaten together for being silly.
So because I have a different opinion to yours …you want to beat me to a pulp??
You call that different opinion or stupidity. Kiki you boys are funny. When these same 1diots start insulting hh you will turn against them the way you’ve now hero worshiping kambwili.
And what makes you think I support HH…Kambwili will always be a BUFFOON even if he joined the Red Cross.
To start with, Lungu snubbed Mainane.
PF lack international diplomacy …they are so shortsighted…we warned them about deporting this man but the laughed at us.
When did ECL snub Maimane?
Atase bakabwa. Zuma has out witted you.
Iwee ci HH OVAL HEAD you are making noise c1kala iwee. You are consistently supporting rubbish. Give us a break c1kala chawiso.
This is just an exegerated story
Shame BA lungu maimn is to smart to meet you mbwana kikiki
What’s he doing about Zuma?
Go and read RSA news find out!!
@ 13 Ndanje khakis
You should be asking the question: “What is Zuma doing about Maimane?” Zuma hasn’t sent Maimane to prison. That’s what we call democracy.
Zuma hasn’t sent them to prison because they are juveniles instead he he calls security to beat them up in parliament and throw them out. That is south Africa democracy at its best. You misbehave they calm call security to beat the he’ll out of you.
The opposition DA in the South African parliament were not beaten, they were just dragged out of parliament. There is democracy in SA and please don’t compare SA parliament to the rubbish that we have in this country where illiterates make laws. The police there can’t even make that mistake of beating parliamentarians. Laws are respected there.
Sorry Jay Jay I don’t respond to your postings so don’t reply to mine. There’s no shortage of people you can keep entertained with your fun cap
KK spent in excess of US$10.0BN liberating these kafirs, and it left us with a debilitating foreign debt. Now they’re misusing their newly found freedom to insult us. 10 years from now they will come back to us crawling, they’re tearing their country apart thinking it’s democracy. Why even try to engage those chaps? You’re giving eminence to nonentities
And Lazy Lungu destroyed that respect in less than 2 months…for you to be using that awful word Kaf** says a lot about you ignorant empty tins!!
@ 14 Ayatollah
You have missed the point.
Ecl doesn’t and will never need those boys but they will need ecl one day. Ecl will be au or sadc chair and those boys will come pleading.
What would they need from Lazy Lungu? A Shopping Mall…really laughable.
Incase you don’t know sa economy is sinking while zed is improving everyday. That country is destroyed my friend. Give it 10years and you will be surprised how zed will overtake it. Mulichisushi ba jj a big fart you’re. You should see and weigh what and who to support. Sa can’t support even your hh when their own is involved with bitter words against him but you are busy siding with them because they snub your enemy. Be patriotic for once.
You are so shortsighted …go and visit Shoprite at Manda Hill then come and comment. You think you will exporting maize and chibuku shaky shaky to RSA!!
HH ” no engine ” oval head
What SA sinking ? You have hundreds of Zambia economic refugees running to SA every day ati we are doing better ??
You PF rats sure have a fake chip on your shoulders…..
@15 HH OVAL HEAD
“…they will need ecl one day…” so he can take them to prison? No, ECL is one who will need them one day, to rescue him from prison.
From now on deal with this ***** Mazi Maimane as a spoit child, a puppet of boers who run apartheid. He has failed to deal with Zuma now he has found his fellow puppets to make noise for boers. SHAME!
How has he failed to deal with Zuma…at least Zuma has not thrown him in Maximum Prison as RSA is a democracy with separation of powers let that sink in your hollow shell.
At least mps are not beaten in parliament of zed.
Am Waiting For Mailema’s Response.
Let this guy GO TO HELL, what does he think he is? he is a coward ” Black caffeur’
Whose the bigger coward Lazy Lungu who deported Mmusi Maimane at Lusaka Airport right in the plane..he could have invited him then.
WAKE UP!!!
@ 18 Kamuzu
Too bad our president is the beggar here. I wonder how you can tell Maimane to go to HELL in his own country?
@ 18 Kamuzu
You must be too embarrassed to admit it that president Lungu has been told-off and thus disgraced by South Africa’s main opposition leader. South Africans do have respect for their leaders, including their opposition leaders. Indeed, even president Jacob Zuma accords respect to those opposed to him. Our president could learn at least that tiny bit from this experience. This is too much an embarrassed for him.
This PF President is overrating himself. How do you deport an opposition leader then go to his country and ‘summon’ him.
These little big men really have b@lls.
Good job Maimane.
Spot On!!
Fact of the matter is that neither Julius Malema nor this twit Musa Maimane will ever be president of South Africa. South African in the next 30+years will never trust these opportunists to sit in government except the ANC for now. The loser here is Maimane who has declined an opportunity to dialogue with a sitting African president but has instead chosen to attach conditions as if he is the next president; ECL is already meeting future South African presidents like Nkosazana-Dlamini and Ramaphosa and it was a show of leadership to extend a hand to these amatuers. As witnessed in Rwanda and Kenya and other countries where the ineffective opposition like Odinga, Maimane, Hakainde and others have failed to win the imagination of the masses and always take every opportunity to be stars in…
…the international community and media, the indigenous African population don’t trust these aloof failures enough but put their trust in real African leaders like Kagame, Kenyatta, Lungu, Ramaphosa, Pohamba. African history will remember the latter group not the arrogant, directionless, and s.t.u.p.id upstarts like musa who will amount to nothing. Good leadership ECL!!!
Dialogue for what? Recognizing Lazy Lungu? Really laughable
@Jay Jay: You are laughable, donkey. So a head of state should plead for a s.t.u.p.id white man’s dog opposition twit who will never be president?? No wonder you have abandoned you country to wash old white people’s behinds!! You are really pathetic.
Who “summoned” who to meet?
Iwe Zambian citizen , mr lungu is a budding dictator , who wants to “summon” someone he he deported from Zambia, ? Well done mamane, dictators have no place in Africa.
President Lungu summoned the twit maimane to teach him something. ECL has already passed two republican elections while maimane remains a regional opposition leader front for an elitist white political organisation. MAIMANE HAS A LOT TO LEARN FROM ECL THAN THE OTHER WAY AROUND; ECL has been MP, PS, minister, secretary general before, what positions of power has maimane got to show for it????
@spaka the donkey: If the AU tells the world there is no dictatorship in Zambia, why would I believe a diasporan white man a.r.s.e cleaning donkey like you?????
Zambian citizen
The AU is the most hopeless organisation on the planet…..tell me any conflict in Africa they resolved ?
@spaka: so tell you your white masters and you believe them. You are a poor excuse of an African, keep cleaning the white man’s behinds, donkey!!!
Zambia is strategically important and this explains the persistent meddling and regime change manoeuvres. Zambia is the first country late President Mandela visited upon his release from prison. The people of Zambia have voted for President Lungu with or without Maimane’s endorsement, consent or approval. It was, is and will never be required. The ruling party in Zambia is well capable of making very sound and informed decisions about how to run the country. That is not up to Maimane and his puppeteers. Zambia will never allow itself to become an expansionist playground for colonial adventures or misadventures. It is a pity that South Africa politicians can’t resist the urge to be willing accomplices in their own re-colonisation by knowingly allowing known aggressors to fund political…
Get this in your small little brain…Zambia’s importance to RSA is this its a good market for RSA products because Zambians are utterly lazy bas$%^ who are good at drinking mosi.
How dare you talk of Mandela when we in Zambia are still clinging on to the same barbaric laws the colony British govt used to oppress you.
*…colonial British govt
@21 Dream and Realise
It only happens to be a dream, and nothing beyond a dream.
Good answering jj. I’m pf but I don’t support wrong ideas like wanting to meet maimne and malema as priority when there is no road between Sesheke and Livingston. Really as pf we are doing things upside down.
You need to see the dentist if you think pf is doing things upside down. Your dental formula is warped.
Sesheke and Livingstone??? No road??? It is now a habit for donkeys like Elija to fart anyhow in public while switching off their brains and getting facts on the ground. Really sad, Oval.
@zed citizen never mind this boy jj. This chap was weaned by insults his mother used on him. He can’t think straight because he was brought up in an insulting home were his father was calling him by the name of insults. The boy is traumatised by those heavy insults from his parents.
Comment:thumbs up to maimane. Its a watste of time meeting lunatic leaders like edgar lungu..Lungu is a disgrace to this nation
politics in zambia,guys go to sa today and say wat this two fools so called opposition leader are saying to lungu ,tell zuma and see how you will be burnt to hell ,A normal zambian cant support this foolishness ,what democracy do we need please as a zambian how protect a zambian being in opposition ,ruling part they are ours no foreign farces should tell as what to do not even trump ,chilamuntu nechiwa chakwe
Donkeys are all the same whether UPNDonkeys in Zambia, or DAdonkeys in south africa. And all led by underfives too. Behaviour, manners, ego, failure to reach national appeal – all the same as you would expect from any UPNDonkey and their little underfives.
Coming back to the local underfive, this is almost bed time and the boy is dreading another nightmare. As I said he will go through this for a long long time. Literally speaking from what he described to the BBC, the underfive boy is probably on a slow death.
Lungu releasing HH and expecting applause from everyone is like a theif returning your goods and expecting a promotion !
PF rats are despicable….and mr terrible I see you are back after your near cardiac arrest at the news of HH being freed ? We told you there was no treason yet you and the othe PF rat njimbu kept on thinking there was something else ?.. hopeless excrement of humans these PF rats are.
Well done mamane, the other dictator is having his wife prosecuted in South Africa for assault…..
You deport someone from your country then ” summon ” them to meet you ? Illusions of grandeur on the part of mr lungu.
Mr lungu should have issued an apology of some sort for deporting him then he could have ” summond ” him.
President Lungu, now desperate to jump out of the cage he recently constructed for himself, thinking it was a castle.
Edgar Lungu who is fighting for recognition by the opposition at home, is not being recognized the opposition abroad. Charity begins at home.
Your excellence, Maimane is a real nobody, this must be clearly understood . Had it not been for opposing politics both Mr HH and this boy Maimane were playing together in their respective countries, Mr HH would never waste a minute of his valuable time listening to Musi Maimane, never ! You gave him the opportunity to speak to you , he blew it , finish. Give him your back . He is just a an overly confident boy with literally no bankable wisdom to waver any storm. If we have genuine agendas for Zambia and its people, the likes of Musi are the least any Zambian would solicit support or advice from at times like this. We need highly galvanized and experienced able bodied men with decades of practical reasoning.
Everyone is wrong but Lungu et.al..!
I am really at a loss to understand why our President should even contemplate meeting maimane.such a useless apartheid apologist iam embarrassed and annoyed can you give a high profile to such a useless thing? Even Ackim Ngosa is far much better than this boer in African skin.
maimane is a paid vuvuzela, he knowing very well that had he met with president lungu, he would be put in his place and publicly be exposed for what he is, he decided to refuse, but unfortunately Edgar doesn’t walk alone, Edgar enda na lesa, God given leader and these pathetic white Master Boot lickers will be brought to light…I’m breaker and I approve this message
Maimane but for sure you are a knumbskull… meanwhile Grace Mugabe is beating up your young kids in SA and non of the opposition leaders have come out to speak aganist that??? Maimane and Malema have never ever come out to speak out against the Mugabe regime that everyone knows is a real dictatorship and why is that? There is obviously some games being played to paint the PF govt in Zambia in a bad light- these games have failed because the international community know that Zambia is a true democratic nation regardless of whatever lies are being told by the likes of Maimane and Malema.
@2020… I don’t see much vision in your reasoning. Comes out more like a spaghetti junction. Why should politicians be talking about Mrs Mugabe. There are wings of government that handle such, the Police. PF die-hards seem to know nothing about separation of powers in a nation.
This is a lost opportunity for Mmusi to hear the other side of the coin, but as cursed the African continent is, even those who claim to be chamioning a new “world order”(Democracy) do not seem to have the kind of wisdom required to acheive their pupported mission. Honestly Mmusi would have been wiser by hearing the other side too. A head of state requests to meet you a minority leader and all you do is make noise, it is unbelievable. It does appear that the hypothesis of those saying DA is there to serve the interest of the minority and their wealthy paymasters has a higher probability. What Mmusi does not seem to understand is that H.E Edgar Lungu is a popular leader in Zambia and has more value to the Zambian people than the minority leader Mmusi whose interest is to serve the wallet…
…Zambian people than the minority leader Mmusi whose interest is to serve the wallet of his party’s funders.
It is a well known fact that if you claim to be a democrat then you must have open mind especially on things you have very little knowlledge about. Unless ofcourse you have a predetermined agenda as appears in the case of Mmusi. Obasanjo went to zambia and had the open mind to meet both sides. What he said there after is an open secrete which Mmusi would not like to hear because his fananciers know it all and have told him not to listen. In that case he makes the work of H.E Edgar Chagwa Lungu easier to concentrate on more important issues that have a bearing on national issues and not battles to fight for presidency because he (ECL) is already one not once but twice.
…But I note that Maimane at least shows some manners by referring to ECL as “The President of Zambia”. So is he a lesser donkey than UPNDonkeys?
For God’s sake Maimane and Malema have both failed to remove their own President Zuma in their no confidence vote. President Zuma is one man still standing. Our Excellency ECL should just forget about such leaders who are trouble rousers. But are failing to become Presidents of South Africa.His Exc. ECL is a President recognised worldwide. Lets not waste our Pres. ECL time for such characters. I rest my case.
But I think that we shouldn’t spend too much time on UPNDonkeys, they are a dying species, you know like dinasaurs became extinct by failing to adapt to new environments.
The few donkeys who may be an immediate threat to peace we can lock up in prison…..
UPNDonkeys, ask underfive how it is in Zambian prisons, I don’t think that he can recommend that any of his Donkeys ever do something which could land them in those facilities, but problem with UPNDonkeys is that they don’t care about each other and so cannot advise each other. Just look at underfive, he could have obtained this dialogue many moons ago, but because of bad advice, he had to take the route of prison in order to arrive at the same destination: dialogue.
Lungu has just been rebuffed by a young upstart politician and also the EFF leader….very embarrassing…the PF rats thought people would jump to meet a budding dictator mr lungu after being summoned ? You PF rats with Amos Chanda are perpetually drunk….now we have Chanda and the other rats trying to blame HH for lungus rebuff and rejection….hehehehe
If it is true that Maimane has refused to meet President Lungu in Johannesburg, then Maimane’s reactions speak volumes of a black African politician having been hired to discredit the integrity of African leaders and their legally instituted Governments. In this regard, Maimane MUST stop commenting on the affairs of Zambia because Zambia is not a District nor a province of South Africa. However, he is welcome to view the Victoria Falls but with his mouth SHUT UP. Should Maimane de-campaign Zambia’s trade links with South Africa let him advise his employers to pull out Shoprite, Pick & Pay or Spar supermarkets from Zambia and we will see how unemployment will resonate in S.Africa.
How many Zambian economic refugees are in SA …? When you find that answer then you can think again about starting economic wars with economic giants…..
Ba Spaka like lilo – Unfortunately, you are too blind to see that there are also South African economic refugees in Zambia.
Agony is when dictators call themselves democrats and brand others dictators. Have you ever heard of a dictator asking for dialogue?! Hopeless maimane!!
Let Maimane go to hell. Who does he think he is for sure ? He is just being a merchant of hate. He cannot even win an election in RSA. We will not allow him to arm-twist the President on frivolous and unfounded issues. Africa is not ready for Democracy with such attitudes and personalities. What we need are mild dictators that can squeeze some sense into such minds. Viva Zambia.
Inviting Maimane for a discussion was a very clever by the Presidency. I think they knew that the boy did not have the guts to meet HE ECL – so in his own backyard they threw it to him and the coward went cowering under the bushes – really funny. You have really put the boy in his place guys and now forget about him. But if he continues insulting Zambians, put him on the spot again.
Read between the line bane….Maimane is a chairperson for a subgroup that looks into democratic issues under SADC. on this occasion, Maimane has responded with a great sense of maturity than that presented by one Chishimba Kambwili . I hope Zambian politicians including the incumbent president, learns from this good lesson..Bravo Maimane!!!!
Ba Mwanza limo limo mulekwatako insoni. This behavior by Maimane is childish and silly. He organized hooligans (and there are many there) to go and picket outside the hotel where the President was. The President presents them with an opportunity to present their grievances – what do you get instead — the fools go cowering!! Really funny – the Zambian team really put these amateurs on the spot.
ECL was wrongly advised , why ask for a meeting in SA ? iT EVEN BORDERS ON SECURITY ISSUES Cos. SADF cannot protect u when those chaps insult u in SA CONCENTRATE ON SADC MEETING SIR
It takes wisdom and wise counsel to run a country.
PF are a disgrace.
PF supporters here are all deplorable.
Let Maimane go for deliverance because his mouth is full of filth.I strongly urge him to visit ECG for help on a serious note.
Who is a nobody here, the one begging for dialogue or he who is rebuffed?
Imagine if it was President Zuma requesting dialogue with hh, we all know Zuma is respected, hh will never reject Zuma. But you have a gate crusher President here fighting for recognition everywhere he is not taken seriously- what a nightmare!
Lungu received what he deserved. to receive respect respect others; well done Maimane and Malema.
@ Life experience you say Zuma is respected? By who if I may ask? If ever HH responded to a call by Zuma it would only tarnish his own record because the same Maiamane (the black vuvuzela of minority white capitalists who continue to exploit his South Africans in their own land) and Julius would never answer to Zuma. With due respect even in his own party Zuma is being asked to resign and he cant and you are calling him respectable? PLease!
Is it semantics or what? I thought you only SURMMON your subjects? can Zuma surmmon HH to a meeting in SA because he condemned his Nkandla home scandle? would that work? Its now wonder then Maimane refused to obliged.
@ Life experience you say Zuma is respected? By who if I may ask? If ever HH responded to a call by Zuma it would only tarnish his own record because the same Maiamane (the black vuvuzela of minority white capitalists who continue to exploit his South Africans in their own land) and Julius would never answer to Zuma. With due respect even in his own party Zuma is being asked to resign and he cant and you are calling him respectable? PLease!
Is it semantics or what? I thought you only SURMMON your subjects? can Zuma surmmon HH to a meeting in SA because he (HH) condemned the Nkandla home scandal? would that work? Its no wonder then Maimane refused to OBEY. He had no reason to Obey LUNGU.
@kwangala It is because he still commands respect in RSA, that is why he won the no confidence vote over his critics. Imagine if it was lungu in RSA, in zuma’s shoes, we would be talking about Presidential elections by now to replace him – lungu could make a worst chase play, bad moves like always.