Thursday, March 28, 2024

President Lungu’s Ineligibility Won’t Make HH Win 2021

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Prince Ndoyi the MMD youth who has made it his business to remind the UPND of their chances of wining the 2021 election is at it again.

In the latest statement Ndoyi says the chances of UPND president Hakainde Hichilema remains the same even if incumbent President Edgar Lungu was eliminated from the race by virtue of his ineligibility because their candidate will be the same person who has lost five times.

Ndoyi wonders what will be different and make Zambians vote for a person who they have rejected five times even if the ruling party presented a new comer to compete with him in the next elections.

He noted that the insistence by the UPND regarding the eligibility or ineligibility of President Lungu might be misconstrued to present their president as being scared of being walloped by the same individual three times.

“Our view from the outset is that HH and his UPND must be made to understand that in the unfortunate circumstance that President Lungu is declared ineligible, UPND’s chances to win remain the same. This is because they have featured the same candidate five times and so there is nothing different they have to offer to the ordinary Zambian electorate.

“It is GBM’s duty as Vice President coupled with his experience politically to help the UPND leadership to understand that it is a political blunder for them to insist on President Lungu’s ineligibility. Because this has the potential to create a perception that they are afraid of his candidature. It is truly a mark of fear and desperation on their part, like President Lungu so rightly put it. Why the panic? Does it mean if Edgar Lungu won’t be eligible then HH and his UPND stand a chance to win? President Lungu’s eligibility certainly won’t make HH win,” he said.

He advised the UPND to take self introspection as the eligibility issue might also apply to their leader who has not gone to a convention to seek mandate from the membership.

“Why should the candidate who will be adopted by Patriotic Front worry HH and his UPND? What does that say about themselves?Are the UPND indirectly admitting that once beaten twice shy? Have they failed to win at elections, now they want to use the elimination method by making their opponents ineligible thereby gate crushing into State House.

“We would like to urge HH and his UPND to instead concentrate their energies on checking their own eligibility to stand within their party. Seeing that they have stood countless times without a convention within their party, and still intend to stand in 2021. This is far much equally a moral issue as it is a constitutional one. Maybe it’s time GBM was adopted as their candidate for a change,” he said.

He also said instead hoping for weaknesses and/or misfortunes from their opponents the UPND should develop a strategy of their own for 2021.

“The UPND must develop a political strategy for 2021 of their own, unlike waiting on the weaknesses and misfortunes in other political parties. It won’t help them if there will be any. With such it is suffice to say all guesses in the MMD/PF Alliance are eligible to win, even the perceived incorrect ones against HH and his UPND.

“As young democrats, surely there should be no sense of satisfaction in what is happening. In fact, they should take this moment to look at themselves in the mirror and ask: How much do their own party’s internal battles resemble the fight happening within the other parties? As Democrats we should be asking ourselves how tolerant we are of dissent within our own party and how much we are really willing to reach across the aisle,” he said.

53 COMMENTS

  1. When you allow emotions to take the best of you, even your frontal lobe cannot function well. When you have bitterness surely even your reasoning goes out of the window. Why has the incumbents ineligibility to stand got to do with anyone else. It’s the voters who decide to vote not ECZ or ConCourt.

    • He lost elections the a few tens thousands.

      Whether Lungu stays or Not dismissing HH is simpleminded and witless.

      Sometimes if you have nothing to say dont say anything you little toad Ndoyi

      I contribute here with finesse, intelligence and I am revered as well at LT because I use my brains before I say anything. It is for this reason my statements often than not have substance in them

      Thanks

      BB2014,2016

    • How can the country move forward, on one side you have Mushota who one can visibly tell she is thick and on the other you have Ndiyoyi who wants attention. Tizathuvuka bwanji

    • There’s documented evidence that HH won last election and should be the bonafide head of state of Zambia. lungu stole that election and is operating illegally as president. If he wants to disprove this let the petition be heard. The guilty are always afraid and their consciences torments them day and night. Why would the eligibility/ineligibility of lungu have anything to do with HH? This is paranoia!

    • @wantanshi: documented evidence…yaba!! Why wasn’t this “evidence” presented in court??? 54 mps from bantustans and you’ve won an election??? Ule chefya ko i.b.a.nge!!!

  2. This Ndoyi can come and kiss my backside , where the sun doesn’t shine.

    I dont like him at all ad he did nothing wrong to me

    Where is he Really from any way?

    Thanks

    BB2014,2016

    • Iwe Mushota, why do you resort to ad hominem when your self-proclaimed intelligence is challenged? The young man Ndoyi is speaking sense. To summarize it for your in case you’ve forgotten how ever since you got your “PhD”:
      He also said instead hoping for weaknesses and/or misfortunes from their opponents the UPND should develop a strategy of their own for 2021.

      Otherwise naiwe also you are becoming more irrelevant.

  3. sometimes it puzzles me ,if you feel he wont win so what?WHY SHUD LET OTHERS KNOW ABOUT YOUR OPINION?AND THEN IF THEY KNOW SO WHAT.SAME SENTIMENTS IF I RECALL USED TO BE SAID ABOUT PRESDENT SATA BUT HE LATER WON.THE BEST IS EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE UPND ALLOW THEM SPACE TO EXIST AND LET THE PIPO DECIDE CHAPWA.

    • ADVISE HH AND HIS UPND IDENTIFY THE ELEPHANT (HH HIMSELF) IN THE ROOM AND REMOVE IT. OTHERWISE NDOYI IS 101% RIGHT. HOWEVER UPND AND HH OR IS IT HH AND UPND OR BOTH, ARE FREE TO BURRY THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND. GOOD ARTICLE, THOUGH SHORT.

  4. What has HH got to do with Lungu’s eligibility? Are you accepting that if Lungu wont stand then that’s the end of PF? Why should you be interested in what is happening in another man’s bedroom instead of yours? The witting on the wall should be succinct this time around. Everything is messed up, the e- Voucher, debt, FDI, exchange rate, agriculture is in mess, no IMF bailout, wait and see what is going to happen in the next six months. Failing to plan is planning to fail, same as voting for someone with no vision, remember were there is no vision people perish, eat your humble pie of dununa reveres ba PFkkk.

  5. This hate for HH is cheap propaganda and it is actually fanned by tribalism from the North and East!

    It is not acceptable in this so called Christian Nation.

    HH is loved by many Zambians, going by the less than 1% of votes, that were arguably in favour of Lungu!

    It is amazing how people of this country blaze-up their hypocrisy!

    • u5 is worshiped 100% especially in sourthern.

      after stealing via privitasation he has bought souls who ready to die for him.

      he is a mosses as they call him.

      anyone standing on the way is burnt.

      Yet to us the non u5 devoties we see him as a childish tribal morron.

      truth be told

      whether ecl stands on not u5wilk never be president of zambia.

      explain why he he has no mp in lsk.cb.luuapula.north.muchinga ect.

      we dont this morron in these provinces.

      Let a good Tonga take over upendi not u5

  6. As for me all win for ECL are not genuine start from party level ,mind you no one from PF who can explain the way of that fool from Uganda so called Samuel Chavula ,the way he came out to police ,

  7. Lungu’s ineligibility is a stand-alone affair. It has nothing to do with who wins the election in 2021. Who wins the presidential election in 2021 is a matter totally different and completely divorced from Lungu’s ineligibility to stand as a presidential candidate for a third term.

  8. ABAMANO- Don’t compare Mr. Sata (MHSRIP) to the so called HH. Sata was a political giant whereas HH is an underfive politician. PF was born many moons after UPND was born, but sata managed to overtake UPND in the opposition camp that it took him ONLY TEN years to hit the state house. Now how many years has UPND been in the opposition without success? This explains the difference between Sata and HH, the difference between these two is the distance between the earth and the sky. Why UPND has not won the state house is because there is a problem at the helm of its leadership and that problem is HH himself. I agree with ndioyi even if Lungu does not stand (which I doubt very much) HH will again lose to whoever will be anointed by ECL

    • Bwana saimbwende squared, SATA was already cooked and ready to be president that time. He had a pro poor stance and people received him well including the same UPND through that alliance. Clearly SATA was ahead of the pack with his experience from the 90s HH was a new kid on the bock with wealth and good English. The problem is not at the helm but who counts the votes.

    • Bwana Zed: How about Chagwa?? He was an unknown with no experience against a seasoned political campaigner hh. But Zambians still chose the unknown above the experience. hh li shamo fye, a career loser!!!

    • YOU ARE SPOT ON ZC. THERE ARE LOTS OF PROBLEMS IN UPND. FIRST, INTERNALLY IT IS A VERYUNDEMOCRATIC PARTY WHICH DOESN’T BELIEVE IN ELECTIONS WHILE THEY MAKE A LOT OF NOISE ABOUT DEMOCRACY LIKE THEY CAN TEACH WHO. UPND IS A TRIBAL PARTY AND THE VOTING PATTERN SAYS IT ALL. HH HAS NO POLITICAL REASON FOR PRESIDENCY BUT PERSONAL- THE WANT TO BE PRESIDENT. HH IS A SERIOUS DICTATOR-IN-WAITING AND THIS CAN BE SEEN BY HIS BEHAVIOUR IN HIS OWN PARTY. HH HAS BROUGHT IN BEMBAS IN UPND PARTY ONLY TO USE THEM WIN PRESIDENCY WHILE HIS LAWYERS AND LARGELY (IF NOT ALL) ALL OF HIS WORKERS ARE TONGAS. CAN’T ZAMBIANS SMELL A ROTTEN RAT, HERE. ETC

  9. ACTUALLY THE MAIN POINT I WAS TRYING TO SAY IS THAT LET NO ONE MAKE CONCLUSIONS ON THE ZAMBIAN PIPO.THEY ARE VERY UNPREDICTABLE

  10. So the MMD ‘youth’ has made it his business to became a middle finger of the PF? Son slow down let UPND worry about that. What you should worry about is how your fellow MMD members are fairing in govt. Mutati is lying to the country, farmers have lost confidence in Dora (Check latest news from ZNFU). So far HH is the only ‘option’ we have then/or Chipimo and others.

  11. The author is at sea about rule of law and constitutionalism. These principles have nothing to do with individual preferences or lack of. Its not lungu or hh in what they want or not. Its about what the law demands. Lungu or hh will have to abide by the law not what they or their promoters want. Get schooled as well as educated bawesu. If u understand what i mean?

  12. Nonsense! Who said Lungu’s eligibility petition for 2021 is about making HH win the elections in that year? It is about upholding the rule of law.

  13. The ZIMBABWEANS are already counting 2 terms for Mnagagwa UNTIL 2029
    After the 2019 general elections
    After Mugabe.

    Please READ ZIM NEWS and their constitution which is simply a replica of ours or vice veza.

    UPDN are counting eggs before they hatch.

  14. I do not understand the point of Ndoyi’s complaints. Is he worried that HH is going to lose? One would think this prospect in itself would make him happy! Why is he caring so much about the welfare of the UPND? Has he secretly become a UPND supporter?

  15. HH MUST BE RETIRED IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN 2021 BY ZAMBIAN PEOPLE.THE MAN HAS BROUGHT ALOT OF HATRED IN ZAMBIAN POLITICS BECAUSE OF HIS SELFISHNESS.
    HE CONSIDERS HIMSELF THE ALPHA AND OMEGA OF UPND AND ZAMBIA.THIS IS A LOT OF NONSENSE.
    IF UPND IS NOT CAREFUL THIS TIME AROUND,THEIR god WILL END UP IN CHAINAMA OR PRISON BECAUSE HIS BITTERNESS.
    AFTER LOOSING 2016 ELECTIONS,THEY HAVE BEEN BURNING PROPERTIES LIKE CITY MARKET,BRINGING DOWN ZESCO PYLONS AND THEY ATTEMPTED TO SET ABLAZE DAILY NATION. RECENTLY THEIR OWN CHIEF PALACE WAS BOMBED FOR WORKING WITH THE GOVT OF THE DAY.
    WHAT SORT OF PEOPLE ARE THESE?CURSED IS THE DAY WHEN HH TOOK OVER UPND AS PARTY PRESIDENT.
    WE HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE IN ZAMBIA.
    SOME TRIBES WILL RUN AWAY FROM ZAMBIA IF BY MISTAKE AKAINDE…

  16. BECOMES THE PRESIDENT OF THIS COUNTRY.
    THE UPND MUST KNOW THAT PEOPLE LIKES UPND AND THEY DON’T LIKE THEIR LEADER AND THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE BEEN LOOSING ELECTIONS.
    THESE UPND MEMBERS KNOW VERY WELL BUT THEY ARE TOO COWARD TO TELL THEIR LEADER.
    PEOPLE FROM FROM 6.5 PROVINCES WILL VOTE LIKE DUNDUMWEZI,THEY SAY THEY HAVE BEEN TAUGHT A LESSON OF HOW TO VOTE.THE QUESTION IS,WHERE IS HAKAINDE GOING TO GET VOTES TO BEAT PF?
    UPND MEMBERS THINK AND COME TO THIS TERMS.WE KNOW AGAIN YOU WILL CRY THAT THE ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN STOLEN AND THAT WILL NOT HELP.

  17. Sata was a ruble rouser. He appealed to the vast maltitudes of citizens whose intellect was dodgy, and was based on his jokes, abusive language, insults to others, and simplification of issues which in real intellect setup, were nothing but populist. This is why when he bacame president, he reversed nearly all the things that he had been promising. Instead of promoting the vast majority of his voters, the YOUTH, he trashed them by raising the retirement age to 65, so that he could fill up any available job with retirees!! And yet he remains popular to this day because he spoke the language of those who never went to school, and grew a culture of violence and for a start, a PANGA became a common weapon by his cadres. Such was the mad who really should have NOT been put into the presidency…

  18. go to heal with yo died party u are not a reason of the Zambian people and you not the one who keep our voters card .fooool mind

  19. I HAVE taken over from Cde RG Mugabe in mid term, to finish off Cde RGM’s term.
    If my party, ZANU-PF adopts me as their presidential candidate in the forth elections 2019, I am available to stand for 5 year term ending in 2024.
    If my party asks me to stand for another 5 years in 2024, I shall be available.

    Whether or not I shall stand again in 2024, after 2019, is no not a debatable issue.

  20. NDOYI IS CORRECT!!!Majority Zambians from the North and East shall never vote for HH whether PF’s Edgar Lungu is eligible to stand in 2021 or not!IN THE NORTH,HH IS CALLED “KAINDE” AS NOBODY CAN EVEN PRONOUNCE HIS NAME “HAKAINDE HICHILEMA”,KEKEKEKEKEKEKE.so the more upnd adopts HH,the more they must forget about votes from the North&East!!
    Truth be told,in Zambia if a presidential candidate is supported by majority Northerners and Easterners then STATE HOUSE would surely belong to such a person!!HH HAS FAILED TO ATTRACT MASSIVE VOTES IN THE NORTH AND EAST SINCE 2006!!EVEN NOW HH IS DOING NOTHING IN THOESE AREAS FOR HIM TO DO WELL THERE IN 2021!!so whoever will be on PF ticket,shall come out number 1 in 6.5 provinces in 2021 and RETAIN POWER!!!
    the major reason why UPND has failed…

  21. Continue…
    the major reason why UPND has been losing elections since 2006, IS HH WHO MANY PEOPLE IN THE NORTH AND EAST DO NOT WANT- simple!!!
    NJIMBU BB 2017!!

    • Yangana mukabudula kako am sure you see lungu and you cream.
      Learn to debate issues and dont undermine fellow country men and women regardless of regions of origin.

  22. HH won’t win in 2021! Basing on current constitution ECL is eligible to stand in 2021, to me its abuse of the court process, when the constitution is very clear on this! Bold, black and white letters!

  23. The only true observation is that Hichilema and UPND have always looked for misfortunes of others to bolster their chances, didn’t you see how they celebrated Sata’s sickness and death? And along the way HH and UPND decimated UNIP, FDD, Ken Ngondo’s Party, the list goes on. They were ecstatic when Edgar collapsed. They are merchants of death and misfortune

  24. @Zambian Citizen. The Chawamanite was voted on sympathy and most of us were still mourning and in shock of the death of MCS. We were made to believe Chagwa will continue with the pro poor policies. We were fed with the humble, simple guy hogwash but the truth always takes it course, this guy is actually manipulating. Anyways let me explain something for all those at the back. Analyse the votes for all the previous elections you will see which party is growing in terms of votes, it may not be much but the fact is its a growth!.

    • The reason why UPND appears to have gained in terms of the Number of votes received is the twenty percent plus one. Voters from other opposition parties who did not want ECL to win and knew that their party candidate had no chance opted to vote for HH. Not because they like HH but because they hate ECL. These voters who hated ECL for one reason or another may change their minds about him for other reasons. We saw how people changed their minds after Mwanawasa’s first term.

  25. When people start panicking 4 years before the next election just know that the incumbent is doing something right somewhere and they dont want him to continue to prove them wrong and irrelevant.

  26. At the end of the day when all the votes have been counted and none have been stolen you will see who will emerge victorious. As at now the fleas that feed on ECL are dead worried about the possibility of his being ineligible and so are ranting madly at any imagined competitor.

  27. @PeterJ which political parties? you mean to say UNIP and the like had enough voters almost totaling with PF? Most those nashala neka parties would get double digit numbers and that wouldnt change things. Bwana, that party is growing lets just face it. You cant tell us Maxwell Mwamba had enough voters to increase the numbers.

    • @Zednonymous do you remember MMD? Do you remember that the current Minister of Finance in 2015 campaigned for HH? If you remember then you should know that when Mr Mutati changed his support in 2017 some members in MMD went flat out together with Dr Nevers Mumba to support HH. Not that they love HH but to get their back on Mutati. That my friend is the reality.

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