Patriotic Front Lusaka Province Youth Chairman Kennedy Kamba has urged PF Chifubu MP Frank Ng’ambi to quickly table the motion in parliament that bar presidential candidates who have lost three times from contesting elections.
In what seemed like a retaliatory move to UPND’s tabling of the motion to impeach President Edgar Lungu, Mr Kamba assured Mr. Ngambi of support from the youths.
Mr. Kamba said that democracy was about term limits and not people holding on to positions for ever, before adding that that limiting the terms that one can contest the presidency also allows others to take up leadership positions.
Mr. Kamba said that the PF has been to the convention three times since its formation in 2001 while some opposition parties have never had a convention.
The PF youth leader further said that Article 60 of the Zambian constitution clearly states that all political parties should regularly hold conventions.
Last week, the opposition UPND filed a motion in parliament to impeach President Edgar Lungu for allegedly violated the constitution and the mover of the motion, Mazabuka Central Member of Parliament Gary Nkombo confirmed that the motion will be debated March 28, at which Roan PF MP Chishimba Kambwili will second the motion when it comes up for debate.
According to a document obtained from the Clerk of the National Assembly, the UPND has obtained the signatures of one-third of the 167-member parliament who are in support the motion.
Zambia’s constitutions requires the support of two-thirds of the National Assembly for such a proposal to succeed.
Some of the alleged constitutional breaches are that President Lungu violated the constitution when he failed to hand over power to the Speaker of the National Assembly when the presidential petition was filed.
Other charges are that President Lungu procured public debt which is beyond the capacity of the nation to sustain contrary to provisions of Article 198 (c) of the Constitution.
Meanwhile the Patriotic Front Media Director Sunday Chanda yesterday said that the impeachment document presented to parliament was fraud and bordered on forgery.
Mr Chanda said that among the 24 Members of parliament that signed the document with the aim to impeach the president, some signed twice and as such the document must be investigated.
Looks like things are about to really get ugly at Parliament.
Was it silly and ill advised for UPND to table the impeachment motion and will they fail ti get the needed two thirds to pass the motion? Definitely yes to both questions.
Is it ill advised for PF to table presidential terms silly motion and will they succeed in getting the needed two thirds to pass the motion ? Definitely Yes to both questions.
Anyway, better get more popcorns and enjoy the dram about to unfold before our eyes.
It is called democracy: A double edged sword indeed. It cuts both ways in an ugly fashion.
Zambian governance system has collapsed on Lungu’s clock. Understandably a thieving and imcomptent lawyer who carried both thieving and incompetence to the pressidency he did not even deserve. We need to see the back of him on his way to jail.
Hehehe it is a silly presupposition since any law introduced cannot be applied in retrospect hence if it is targeted at HH he will still have 3 more after introduction of this law and at the time ECL will not be eligible anyway. No wonder HH is not panicking he is chilled about it. The PF youths will be disillusioned
Change brings dynamism. UPND is heading for the dustbin of history unless they find a leader ahead of 2021. The wisest decision Hichilema need to make is accept that Zambians have spoken loud and clear so many times not to miss a consistent message. The ballot verdict since 2005 has been that, “not you for Zambian State Presidency”. I see no room for babysitting in the new political dispensation. Young ones will emerge leaving UPND trapped in its politics of personality cult.
@1.2 shameless,that is how look at it as well,it will apply 15 years later after entry into force and in that time a lot will have changed!!
That is stupid and shallow thinking of the so called Lusaka youth chair Kamba. You have failed with fake charges on opposition now you want to use crooked means using our parliament? We Zambians must wake up and show PF exit door in 2021. Wr cannot have people like Kamba, Kampyongo and Lusambo giving us uncessary noise all the time.
Impeachment is not about numbers but about issues raised. Please point out any issue raised to see if the president did not abrogate the constitution.
HH like Abraham Lincoln should not Quit. Probably the greatest example of persistence is Abraham Lincoln. If you want to learn about somebody who didn’t quit, look no further. Born into poverty, Lincoln was faced with defeat throughout his life. He lost eight elections, twice failed in business and suffered a nervous breakdown. He could have quit many times – but he didn’t and because he didn’t quit, he became one of the greatest presidents in the history of the USA.
This chap Kamba has built a mansion in New Kasama, yet he is unemployed. PF00Ls are very scared of HH. They know jail is waiting for them in 2021.
They only win through rigging, intimidation, violence, canceling rallies at last minute, shooting opposition cadres, media blackouts, ZAF no-fly zone, Kaizer Zulu & ZAF ballot tampering, Chavula electronic tampering, ECZ additional votes, bribing Kang-Court judges etc.
– They tried fake treason charges on HH but failed
– Now they want to abuse the rubber-stamp parliament to block HH
If they fail I advise HH to start wearing a bullet-proof vest & beef up his security. Those thieves won’t stop at nothing.
Zambians know very well that you do not create laws in order to “fix” one person.
Remember how FTJ brought in a law to block KK by creating a law preventing presidential candidates with foreigner parents from contesting, only to discovered that he too was a Kasai from DRC. His real father, Kafupi, came from DRC.
Lungu please play a clean game, follow the constitution you swore to protect whilst holding a bible in one hand and you’ll retire in peace, not making court premises & jail your new home. These pipo giving you fake advise wont be escorting you to court or paying your legal fees. Mugabe is lonely nowadays, even his birthday was a solemn one. All those people have forsaken him.
Why is PF youth introducing a motion just aimed at one opposition leader?
What these disgusting dingbats called PF cadres are forgetting is that if MMD and RB introduced such motions back in 2010…Old man Sata would never have qualified for Presidential elections and they would not be eating today. We have these utterly dull things called cadres being mislead by equally foooolish greedy dull leaders instead of lobbying for governance issues they are blindly following.
That’s the past, bubblehead. Our democracy is evolving. This move will eliminate one man parties and force the smaller ones to merge with others and rally behind a sensible and realistic candidate. Surely, can’t you look beyond kainde?? What kind of democratic and serious party wholly depends on one egotistic leader???
Mzambia wa Zamani
This is not aimed at one opposition leader.
Read Article 60(2) (d) which requires political parties to:
(d) promote and practice democracy through regular, free and fair elections within the party;
(e) respect the right of its members to participate in the affairs of the political party;
There is no direct reference to UPND here. If the UPND is abiding by these provisions of the constitution there is no need to worry. If, on the other hand, the UPND is not complying with these provisions, citizens have every right to question the party’s democratic credentials.
Its stupid thinking for youths and it will be foolish thinking to see MP’s entertaining stupid ideas in a democratic nation.
2.3 Facts above ,has the PF ever lived within those provisions? I think not.
Abraham Lincoln Didn’t Quit
Probably the greatest example of persistence is Abraham Lincoln. If you want to learn about somebody who didn’t quit, look no further. Born into poverty, Lincoln was faced with defeat throughout his life. He lost eight elections, twice failed in business and suffered a nervous breakdown. He could have quit many times – but he didn’t and because he didn’t quit, he became one of the greatest presidents in the history of the USA.
It’s PF’s Constitutional right to raise private member’s motion in parliament. If they manage to pass bill to bar perpetual loosers from ‘re contesting so it be that’s how democracy operates .It’s equally UPND’s democratic right to move a motion for impeachment of the President. But democracy’s arrogance of numbers May teach them a severe lesson. Akatanshi takalisha !
That’s a good move of we want a new look of upnd.its too of this chap let him concentrate on his cattle.
All of MPs should know that there is no gain in voting for impeachment of is you family so support it.look at others who were not even adopted but slowly are being put back patience and understanding is the key to any family. Let ecl continue don’t listen to dictators who have experience of internal party democracy. So show them.
Despite being poor. Did Lincoln steal from his country?
Hakainde became president of Upnd after stealing from the people of Zambia.
For those of you who defend him, How much money did Hakainde have before privatization started?
We want a Tonga to be President of Zambia but not a tribalist like Ichilema
Workman
This dullness of PF is punishable,actually these are crimes they are committing. If HH stole and you know that but have not reported him to the authorities you are an accessory after the crime.If you are lying then you are alarming the nation.I cant imagine how many crimes these PF dullards will be charged with.
iT IS A CRYING SHAME THAT PARLIAMENT MUST NOW BE CONTROLLED BY MERE CADRES. WITH kAMBA IT IS AN ACT OF REVENGE. HE IS EATING AND ENJOYING FREE MONEY WHEN THE MAJORITY OF Zambians ARE STRUGGLING . kAMBA THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT A STRUGGLE FOR POWER BETWEEN PARTIES BUT A NATIONAL ISSUE THAT CONCERNS ALL ZAMBIANS REGARDLESS OF PARTY AFFILIATION.
And if you have cheated three times at the expense of a better candidate who has the interest of the country at heart, learn to see beyond your nose, you PF Youths. The people of Zambia will decide who should rule them and not by you twisting the rules because you are in power.
THIS A DEMOCRATIC NATION.. PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL.. PF SHOULD RESPECT THE IRRITATING AND USELESS IMPEACHMENT MOTION BEING ADVANCED BY UPND.. ITS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT… IN THE SAME VEIN, UPND SHOULD RESPECT THE PROGRESSIVE MOTION TO LIMIT TERMS FOR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE .. ITS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT.
POLITICS TEYABANA.. WINA AZALILA
If the upndeadz above have brains that work, they must realise that PF can actually pass this law. Unlike their hate-charged regional party that lacks real political strategists, PF can banjax them here!! They have the political brains and the numbers behind them. Kainde thought he made points with that useless impeachment motion, kanshi azi nyela…kwekwekwe….
This is not about numbers., it is about intergrity and whether the constitution was followed or not. If it was not followed why should we have people in Govt who can’t follow the constitution? Now coming to limiting the number of times someone stands is not even democratic, please learn to differentiate between the office of the president and the leader of the opposition. The president of a country is limited to two term and just to remind you how many times did Ba Sata contest? Let us rise above hate, tribal politics and cadrerism, no wonder Zambia is in such a state. Check out the up coming democracy in Kenya and by the way I am not a cadre and will never be one. One Zambia one Nation.
You sound more unhinged everyday dude. I worry about you.
Who ever signed twice should face the reality of the consequences Acc you have got yourself another job
Can something be done to stop this crap? In a democratic dispensation like ours why should players be so hell bent on reducing competition to their advantage?
It sounds like a communist China ,doesn’t it?
IN ZAMBIA EVEN CADRES LIKE KAMBA CONTROLS THE ATMOSPHERE IN NON DECISIVE PF MPs. WHO IS KAMBA ANYWAY AND WHAT QUALIFICATION DOES HE HOLD? ZAMBIANS SHOULD CONSIDER INTRODUCING DEGREE HOLDERS IN POLITICAL POSITION IF THIS COUNTRY IS TO DEVELOP. THE LIKES OF KAMBA ARE MERE STREET TINS THAT MAKE NOISE WHEN WIND BLOWS.
The Member of Parliament term should be limited to two terms (i.e. ten years) in order to weed out dead members and let the young people participate in their national affairs and avoid career parliamentarians. Who is going to move this motion on behalf of the youth?
Nice one ……….. but do you think that can pass with the slogan of it’s numbers that count. Remember the motion which was moved by the opposition on paying our pensioners , a very good motion but it did not go through because it was raised by the opposition even Harry Kalaba who people praise for I don’t know what voted against it. Yours is a brilliant idea but would it even pass. Cry my beloved country.
THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC NATION..!!!!! PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN TO RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL..
PF SHOULD RESPECT THE IRRITATING AND USELESS IMPEACHMENT MOTION BEING ADVANCED BY UPND.. ITS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT…
IN THE SAME VEIN, UPND SHOULD RESPECT THE PROGRESSIVE MOTION TO LIMIT TERMS FOR PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE .. ITS THEIR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT.
POLITICS TEYABANA.. WINA AZALILA
WHEN YOU MAKE A LAW FOR ONE PERSON ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT IT WILL CATCH UP WITH ANYONE ELSE ONE DAY. YOU MAY THINK YOU ARE BARRING SOMEONE BUT INSTEAD IT IS YOURSELF WHO WILL SUFFER WITH IT ONE DAY.
Tit for tat
@ Ayatollah
Tit for tat or fundamental rights for legalized criminality?
“PF youths urge its MP to quickly table motion to limit terms for presidential candidates.”
PF Youth Fools should urge MPs to quickly table a motion to create jobs.
“PF youths urge its MP to quickly table motion to limit terms for presidential candidates.”
PF Youth F-oo-ls should urge MPs to quickly table a motion to create jobs.
You might as well reduce the number of times someone can vote. There are voters who will vote for the same candidate each and every time. That’s their prerogative. Why reduce their choice with this silliness. What candidate a party chooses to field is their own internal matter. I thought modern civilised behaviour did not allow the enactment of laws that are aimed at particular individuals?
Jesus Christ is on the Throne in Zambia. He is Lord and King forever.
You mean some peoplenever saw this one coming? And sad for them, its going through and this will open a new chapter for some parties. Please table the limit motion NOW!!!!
Nice game let’s see who wins. Impeachment Vs term limit
More likely Fundamental Rights Vs. Legalized Criminality?
Kamba amano tamwaba.nowonder he can be appointed as a minister.it means hh will start fresh.lol
You see now UPND. Go ahead with your plan and the PF also goes ahead with there plan. Dirty games ain’t for small boys. Kekekeke
You are suggesting that holding someone to account for his criminal acts which have destroyed economy, rule of law and allowed criminal capture of the State its just part of “dirty games”?
Stop wanking, it will destroy your f*cking brain
KEKEKE @BEMBAMAN THAT IS THE LAUGHTER OF FOOOLS WHO DONT UNDERSTAND. IF THE LAW WAS INTRODUCED TODAY, IT MEANS THATS WHEN IT WILL BE IN FORCE AND HH WILL START COUNTING FROM THAT MOMENT. THIS DULLNESS IS PATHETIC.
Encouragement for my beloved President:
(Isaiah 54 v17)
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
(Deuteronomy 28 v7)
The LORD shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways..
(2 Corinthians 10 v 4, 5)
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds
Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ.
Comment:
When are we going to have this motion to limit presidential contest tabled in Parliament so that its quickly enshrined in our Constitution? We are fade up of same people causing confusion in this country year in and year out. We want sanity in this country,
Ready the impeach first, don’t just bark, Kamba. It won’t work, presidential limit. If you are popular, what is the fear. Mwanya. It’s a democratic right for any party to impeach Koswe if he is not following the rule of the constitution. What happened to Zuma, did not take once but serval attempts, till succeeded. So Kamba stop smoking weed!
Its a good law, if it can go through. Its not aimed at 1 man. General Miyanda, who we only hear when he is begging for money to go & lodge his nomination, will be affected. And rightly so. Edith nawakwi can also go away quietly. Many of these 1 man party can go & find productive things to do. So go ahead with this of, elifye bwino
Does that new proposal target michael sata who also failed how many times before succeeding?
While we re at it why dont we say if a person fails to start a business three times he must not be allowed to start any other business. Or if at college or university you fail three times you are barred from trying again.
Hey lets include a drivers liceence too.you fail three times that it.you re confined to a bicycle.
Hey if you fail to make your wife pregnant three times. .?
Ok if you re an alcoholic from chawama and you fail to quit drinking three times. ?
Stop smoking teargas
so politics are a business
Kainde is now finished!!HH thought he is clever when he initiated an impeachment motion in parliament against ECL!!now we shall see who has numbers in the house between PF and tonga party upnd!!
This is a very good motion which will retire seasoned election losers such as HH,Miyanda,Nawakwi and Tilyenji Kaunda.the motion should read “whoever has appeared 3 times or more on a presidential ballot paper during last 10 years should not appear there in next 25 years!!”PEOPLE LIKE HH DO NOT LISTEN BECAUSE HOW CAN HE WISH TO CONTINUE STANDING AFTER BEING REJECTED FOR A RECORD 5TH TIMES BY US ZAMBIANS?shocking indeed.Kainde should not force himself on us Zambia especially on those in 6.5 provinces WHO HAVE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY CANNOT VOTE FOR HIM!!
Please PF MPs and pro PF independent…
Such a long comment hehehe after introduction of this law miyanda nawakwi HH will still have 15 more years to keep contesting don’t forget that
Continue…..
Please PF MPs and pro PF independent MPs support this splendid motion so that experts(Kainde,Miyanda,Nawakwi,Tilyenji Kaunda,etc) in losing elections can be retired forthwith in national interests!!
We cant wait for this motion to be tabled before parliament and president Edgar Lungu must call for a meeting with all PF MPs and Pro PF ones to discuss this motion in details!!Kainde just divide Zambians on tribal lines,so its high time we retired him for mother Zambia to reunite again!!
Mzambia wa Zamani
This is not aimed at one opposition leader.
Read Article 60(2) (d) which requires political parties to:
(d) promote and practice democracy through regular, free and fair elections within the party;
(e) respect the right of its members to participate in the affairs of the political party;
There is no direct reference to UPND here. If the UPND is abiding by these provisions of the constitution there is no need to worry. If, on the other hand, the UPND is not complying with these provisions, citizens have every right to question the party’s democratic credentials.
Common sense is not common to everyone.
UPND should have thought through before being overzealous with a an impeachment motion that will not succeed.They simply do not have the numbers even if they add kalaba and Kambwili to their side.
Now they may have to start looking for another leader if the term limit clause is tabled in parliament because it actually stands a chance of going through.
As they say “in wishing others dead you might be digging your own grave’.
It could also be that HH has been duped by some of his people who harbour presidential ambitions and expected this tit-for-tat outcome as it is the only way to have go at the top seat of their party.
Term limit law will apply even to past elections! So those who know have stood and lost 3 times, will not be eligible for future elections! Period! Bye bye! Wamuyaya went with Super Ken!
That’s not true. Ask any lawyer, even a PF at that they will tell you. This is an exercise in futility br.
You people don’t mislead each other the law passed today will not affect the past period.. Stop thinking pro hatred. If a person has breached the constitution he needs to face the law. This is the test to our members of parliament either defend pocket, party or poor Zambians. Pro poor party that test. Pass or fail second time. Last time voted againest motion to pay retirees.
@ Koswe mupoto
Man or is it woman, don’t comfort yourselves, the motion to limit the number of times one can appear on the ballot (Presidential, and any electable position) is a very progressive one and when NOT IF it goes through it will be applicable to affect the past period. In fact the law is applied on culprits on the crimes or wrong doings they committed in the past and its there after it guides citizens of what to do or not to do. So for you to say it wont affect the past period, bwana, if that’s your defense, you better start restrategizing. THE LAW IS FOR PAST PERIODS so those who will fall in that category, too bad for them.
Kamba seems not to understand what he’s talking about. Where on earth does democracy mean confining or limiting democratic rights and freedom. where did Lungu get this bunch of *****s from?
HH sincerely thinks he can get the Presidency through the back door. Let him wait for a counter motion to be tabled in Parliament to limit the number of times he stands for Presidential elections. HH like Sata is a dictator who needs to go the convention to have his popularity challenged. UPND is a tribal party that will disintegrate as soon as a Tonga stops running it.
HH will just retire from active politics for a month, form a new party under a new name, have all UPND members defect to the new party and the adopt imboyo (an elbow) as its symbol. Finish ball HH 2021, Pam Mboyo !!!
@ Ba Cynthia
You very well know that your small god has his days numbered when the motion to limit the number of times one should appear on the ballot because it will be well crafted such that there are no shortcuts. the motion will be presented like this “Any person who has appeared on the ballot papers, i.e Presidential, constituency, branch, ward, or vied for any other electable position for three or more times and has failed consecutively shall NOT be eligible to participate in the future elections for the next 15 years from the last time he/she last participated either on his previous party or any other party that he/she may wish to associate with……. So let the Satanist not see the light.
Such d’ull suggestions! Read the bill of rights. And know that you can not inact a law that will be inconsistent with the main law of the land the constitution in this case. Pass that law, i tell you it’ll be quashed by the courts. Dullness in this country is becoming the order of the day. Seems this country is cursed to have people who can’t reason but just get excited with handouts in form of money or dirty deals. To them that is life. Awe Bane start using your brains.
Just live him to retire naturally. It will take a natural course for him. He is irrelevant to Zambians and they know he is a joker and a pretender to the throne. He can do well as a section chairman in Namwala or an equivalent position of Chief Naitwika there.
The level of ignorance in UPND leadership and its cadres (especially those online) is appalling. Living in denial and under illusions daily!
There is no need to bar anyone let him continue to LOSE! He will and has already made history. UPND may think you fear the little boy! You don’t!
I have information that a upnd mp will second the motion to block anyone who has been of the blot paper more than three times. Fire is burning for HH unless the commonwealth come in to advise both parties to withdraw their respective motions in parliament otherwise HH will be the biggest loose or victim in the whole process. A lot of upnd mp are set to vote in support of the motion with the blessings of Members and GBM who are the main beficiallies of the motion. Kambwili will no doubt support the motion because he stands to gain out of the two motion. If ECL will be out Pf members will not support HH but kambwili. And if the axe get HH kambwili’s part will be automatic the larder opposition party because upnd will be busy trying to chase GBM from upnd presidency through The quoter…
Rubbish
Is a presidential candidate defined, as alll mp’s are in essence potential presidential candidates.
This is evidenced by the aspirations of kambwilli, kalaba,HH, mulongoti, sata, banda, et al
For once it appears parly is finally doing some work. The template of impeachment is now sweeping the region. It is time to critically think about matters as a Zambian and not a partisan property. To those urging new restraints on political incumbency, be careful what you wish for.
I don’t like HH but such things like when, where, who, how is a matter for the Upnd. Kalaba resigned because Edgar has indicated that he wants to stand in 2021. That’s a matter for the PF. Like I have said, people should seriously start concentrating on things that will feed them.
The impeachment = now. Law to limit presidential candidates etc if it materialises will take effect from then ie., whenever it is passed if at it all does. Meaning, implying that it will not affect someone or anybody that has lost 3 times already. First attempt would be read from when the law is passed. So this is just ….!
The Picture above says it all – ECL MUST walk BEHIND THE SPEAKER…it is the speaker’s Domain…koma kaya mwe…
Term limits are. MUST! But best they direct it to those already serving us Members of Parliament and Ambassadors. We have to get fresh faces and new, innovative ideas to keep Zambia running at its best!!!!
Some people somewhere out there know very well that their small gods have their days numbered when the motion to limit the number of times one should appear on the ballot because it will be well crafted such that there are no shortcuts. the motion will be presented like this “Any person who has appeared on the ballot papers, i.e Presidential, constituency, branch, ward, or vied for any other electable position for three or more times and has failed consecutively shall NOT be eligible to participate in the future elections for the next 15 years from the last time he/she last participated either on his previous party or any other party that he/she may wish to associate with……. So let the Satanist not see the light.
foorish,h***** get out my hoffice
Things that come to mind are; borehole levy and rent withholding tax. These are the things that should occupy us. Let’s lobby our MPs to table these issues.
HH is doing everything whatever MAIMANE of south Africa is doing from impeachments,red caps to demonstrations’ but forgetting this is Zambia
Kamba like Lungu should not participate in our politics. Why are we Zambians so naive and S.tupid that we allow Malawians and Zimbabweans participate in our utmost important discourse? Our politics. We should stand up for our own. HH is our own. Lungu, RB, Kamba are not true Zambians to be telling us who runs or not run. We should be in the forefront, not these foreigners. Let’s stop them like FTJ did to Chinula and many more Malawians.
Hey Senior Citizen, you one time told me you are a professor, what do you teach? St.upidity? You are the people making American kids lag behind every form of education in the world. Do you remember the insults you hauled at Sata on behalf of another foreigner in the name of RB? What changed? So it seems you suppport every government in office even if fitotoli. Sorry guy, I am back and won’t stand for the nonsense prevailing in MY country. I M BACK.
UPND. are they not aware that the amended constitution of 2016 bars Dr Kaunda from standing on account of the two term limit so when a law is introduced now it can bar hh and others who have stood before in retrospective unless they amend to allow a transition which the PF cannot do.
WINA AZALILA
Fwanya who told you that Kaunda can’t stand for elections in zambia
There is nothing like cadres every zambian has a right the same upnd want to impeach lungu same , kamba want the term limit so let’s give both chance and see which one will pass ee democracy
WHAT IS THIS PF AND ITS LEADERSHIP REFERENT FROM THE SANHEDRIN DURING JESUS’ CRUCIFIXION TIME. ROMANS MISTREAT JESUS- PASSION WEEK- HH WAS MISTREATED DURING THIS WEEK 2017, CHISHIMBA KAMBWILI ALSO PASSION WEEK – , JESUS WAS SENTENCED TO DEATH -GOOD FRIDAY- HH WAS SENTENCED – GOOD FRIDAY, TODAY CHISHIMBA WANT TO BE SENTENCED THIS FRIDAY.
IS PF AND ITS LEADERSHIP CHRISTIAN OR ANT-CHRIST?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha………remember Christ was crucified with 2 criminals TOO!! So which is which? Your supreme leader HH or fat albert ‘the not scared of anything coward’ ? I mean which of the two is the repentant thief?