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PF disappointed with Chief Mukuni and Hamusonde for questioning the Nationality of President Lungu

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Southern Province Chiefs: Chief Mukuni and Chief Hamusonde
Southern Province Chiefs: Chief Mukuni and Chief Hamusonde

Patriotic Front (PF) Deputy Media Director Antonio Mwanza has expressed disappointment at Senior Chief Mukuni and Hamusonde of Southern Province for questioning President Edgar Lungu’s nationality.

Mr. Mwanza said it is embarrassing and unacceptable that traditional leaders who are supposed to be pillars of peace and unity are the ones supporting lies and propaganda.

The PF Deputy Media Director wondered why Chiefs from Southern Province could be questioning the nationality of President Lungu when Nsenga Chiefs from Eastern Province have ascertained his nationality.

ZANIS reports that Mr. Mwanza said this at a media briefing in Lusaka yesterday.

And Speaking when welcoming members of the Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD) to the PF, Lusaka Province Minister Bowman Lusambo stated that the Party stands ready to protect the office of the Presidency and the people at large.

Mr. Lusambo said it is unfortunate that some people still do not want to respect and accept the Presidency of President Edgar Lungu.

The Lusaka Province Minister has further urged the Patriotic Front members and the country at large to continue supporting President Edgar Lungu as he carries the Party’s developmental agenda forward.

He noted that President Edgar Lungu is preoccupied with providing quality services to the people in various areas of development that include among others education and health and as such, has no time for politicking or responding to insults.

Meanwhile, MMD Lusaka Province Secretary Amos Nyirenda who along with 270 members from all levels of the party moved to the PF this morning, pledged to work with the PF government exclusively to better the lives of the people.

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  1. Very disappointing indeed, realistically speaking, we know why the two chiefs support petty lies, since HH joined the political arena, a new regional politics was introduced, if you are from Southern province ,chances are you are 98% an Hakedian, it’s not rocket science that chances of HH winning are as close as the Atlantic Ocean drying up, none the less HH still has his regional blind loyalists who are willing to go down in the books of fools if they have to, the only way Hakedians can win is through the back door because if 2021 comes, Hakedians no ndwi , just ndwi ndwi.

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    • Lazy Lungu’s response has only made things worse…PF media team should be disappointed with their leader, I mean the lazy thing states that he knows where his umbilical cord is buried yet he was born in the Hospital.

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  2. Any leader who preaches “ubomba mwibala ,alya mwibala ” is not Zambian cuz he’s preaching thievery.Edgar Lungu is such a man.

    • Any 1.d.i.ot who thinks a president can publicly encourage people to start stealing is not Zambian but a bitter tribalist full of hate!!!

    • Defacating bungee jumper and cloth stretcher who wants to bring disorder in the country. Mukuni go bungee jumping again and all the people in your chiefdom will be clapping for your stupidity! Shaa!

    • JIEFIE MUGUNI KINDLY HUNG YOUR TRADITIONAL LEADERSHIP GLOVES AND JOIN THE CONTEMPORARY WORLD OF POLITICS SO THAT WE CAN TREAT YOU LIKE ECL, DOUBLE H AND THE OTHERS. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BY TESTING THE WATERS. M’MEMBE THE FAKE JOURNALIST WHO HID BEHIND THE EDITORIAL PLATFORM AND PROTECTED BY MISA JUST AVAILED HIMSELF TO US.
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      Jiefie Muguni you are corrupt. The corruption charge, we in layman’s language, call nepotism. Why? You may wish to know. Well, because your contemporary political lineage is towards your only son double h. You support him with passion by defacto inclination based on tribal ties. Just how good a traditional leader are you? If you care more about politics of the land just quit traditional leadership. Go face to face with the…

    • … Sinkambas, Mutatis, Nawakwis and Lusambos of this world. Don’t hide behind the thrown. Respect yourself, subsequently that throne. Your son double h was rejected by the majority electorate despite heavy rigging and biasness in your land. But Zambia spoke. Get over it and concentrate on customary laws and leadership. You give me an impression that you have failed. Double h ain’t going to plot ONE, not now, not in the near future, not ever period

    • The president was referring to helping PF members with empowerment. Even in the USA a president will always reward those who campaigned for him. Even HH had he won he was not going to neglect those who would have helped him win the election.

  3. Dictionary words

    Hakedians – Ha-ke-di-ans.
    Derived from the word Hakainde which means bound to lose Hagain.
    It’s originally the name of a person hakainde, a man who introduced regional politics to Zambia, despite losing 5 times his blind followers mostly from Southern province have vowed to follow him down the drain simply because he is from the same region. These blind loyalists are called Hakedians because even when they know he will lose Hagain and Hagain they will not change.

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    • @ Jo Breaker
      YOU ARE BRILLIANT
      I GO FURTHER AND SAY THAT ANY POLITICAL PARTY WHICH CHOOSES ITS LEADER ON THE BASIS OF TRIBE HAS NO PLACE IN ZAMBIA. IT IS ANATHEMA TO OUR VALUES AND SHOULD BE BANNED.

    • Voters by default. It’s a curse they are born with, not all but most of them. They subconsciously vote double h. Maybe he has bewitched them.

  4. No wonder anazi nyela ku bangee jumping. Mukuni has no brains. Why didn’t he approach or challenge his eastern counterparts?? These are f.0.0.lish leaders…no, he doesn’t qualify to be called a leader…these are f.0.0.lish 1.d.i.ots the country doesn’t need. If he thinks he can go about talking rubbish just because he slept at a graveyard, let him take on the Nsega chiefs who will make him poopoo again!! Tribalist skunks!!

  5. IT IS SUCH THINGS THAT CAUSE THE PEOPLE OF SOUTHERN PROVINCE TO BE PERCEIVED IN A PARTICULAR WAY. WHAT INTEREST DOES MUKUNI AND HAMUSONDE HAVE IN ECL WHO IS NOT EVEN THEIR SUBJECT, AND DOES NOT HAIL FROM THEIR KINGDOM? THE NSENGA CHIEFS OF EASTERN PROVINCE HAVE TOLD US THAT ECL IS THEIR SUBJECT. THE NSENGA CHIEFS ARE THE CUSTODIANS OF THE NSENGA TRADITIONS AND CULTURE. SURELY, WHO IS MUKUNI AND HAMUSONDE TO START PASSING JUDGEMENTS OVER A MATTER THAT DOES NOT CONCERN THEM. THE ASPERSIONS BEING CAST ON THE PRESIDENTS ANCESTRY ARE PURELY A POLITICAL STUNT, STARTED BY POLITICIANS, PEDDLED BY POLITICIANS TO SCORE SOME POLITICAL GAINS. UNLESS MUKUNI AND HAMUSONDE ARE CHAMPIONING A POLITICAL CAUSE. WE ALL KNOW THAT CHIEF MUKUNI AND HAMUSONDE ARE UPND CADRES WHO WERE SO DISAPPOINTED WHEN THE…

    • They deny it but down inside they know that they dispise other tribes. GBM is just a front that can be disposed off when no longer required.

  6. …CONTINUED……… WE ALL KNOW THAT CHIEF MUKUNI AND HAMUSONDE ARE UPND CADRES WHO WERE SO DISAPPOINTED WHEN THE CAMBRIDGE ANALYTICA FAILED TO SCORE A VICTORY FOR HH IN THE 2016 POLLS. IT IS SUCH STATEMENTS FROM THE TONGA CHIEFS THAT CEMENT OUR PERCEPTION THAT UPND IS SURELY NOTHING BUT A PARTY ESTABLISHED TO CHAMPION THE ASCENDANCE OF A TONGA TO THE PRESIDENCY OF ZAMBIA. IT IS A PARTY OF TONGAs FORMED BY TONGAs, FOR TONGAs.

    • Tribal killings in Rwanda were preceded by latent tribal hatred. We have reached that stage in Zambia. Signs do not look good. UNIP govt-laid national building infrastructure has decayed but not many see it that way. I do not see peaceful elections in 2021 because things are not looking good as far as I can see.

  7. Chief Mukuni why can’t you just bring out issues to do with maize prices? Your subjects are farmers and the low prices of maize plus exploitation from millers has affected them terribly! Instead you would rather talk about this issue just to hurt someone. At the rate this is going people will get side tracked and forget there are more important issues to discuss. Mukuni you personally have greatly benefitted more than many other chiefs from govt handouts and support it shows the true character of this “open defecator” who loves money more than his own people!

  8. Edgar Lungu is probably a Malawian or a Tanzanian . His Zambian-ness is very doubtful even his name “Lungu” stolen -Wikipedia says its a village in Estonia ,a tribe in DRC and most people named Lungu are from Romania.

  9. I thought Chiefs are supposed to preach unity, what do hear from the Chiefs, it’s out of question, they don’t qualify to be senior Chiefs, what they should put in mind is that PF has numbers in most populated areas in Zambia, just campaign hard so that UPND wins in 2046,I salute Chiefs in North western province,dispute being in opposition they are smart and busy working with investors in the mining sector in order to develop this rich province, come to North western province and see your self not just talking unnecessary comments.Browsing Solwezi.

  10. ‘” ONLY A TONGA MUST LEAD UPND” says Sejani . Look at who are talking rubbish; both of them are UPND stooges and pure tribalists. Ethically speaking these are not chiefs but mischiefs bent on scoring some political mileage for their TONGA man HH. Why TONGAS are like this ? It is like these people wont change no matter how much people complain about their bad conduct towards other tribes, FYA MUMULOPA.Any way we are not shocked that this trash is coming from these nincompoops who are always anti-LUNGU and his government. Like their small god HH, both of them are bitter that A TONGA is not in the state house. Be prepared for another defeat in 2021 that will make your god HH mad. HH A TICKING TIME BOMB TO ZAMBIA’S PEACE & SECURITY

  11. Even u who r writing bad things about mukuni n his counterpart r PF stuges. We know u,u shud respect the elderly come wht may. The truth of the mata is u know that lungu has nt done according why we expected.He has fared very badly
    Let’s be realistic. The truth will set uus free.

  12. Ba LT we are talking about tribalism and His Royal LOWNESS Chieftainess Mukuni. Please don’t mix a good article about Mukuni and tribalism with that thing you call provincial minister whatever our President sees in it. Its suspension from Parliament vindicated what I have always said about it sorry him.
    Coming to the topic, His Royal LOWNESS Chieftainess Mukuni is a tribalist, he had to come all the way to Lusaka so that he is near Eastern province so that the eastern chiefs His Royal HIGHNESS Senior Chief Kalindawalo and his fellow traditional leaders across the Luangwa can hear him calling them and their subjects Malawians. Now this is an unprecedented level of tribalism by senior Tonga chiefs. The least that is expected of the Tonga people is to denounce Chieftainess Mukuni without…

  13. There is only one senior chief in southern province.ka mukuni should not masquerade as Senior. The gazette has only Senior chief mwemba as overall.and no paramount chief here.

  14. I am told that this is the same chief who helped himself in his pants at band jump. And now to tell us such stories does not hold anything – cant believe in him. Embarrassing indeed.
    Just something wrong with these chiefs from the south.
    Disaster!

  15. Simply put the chief is very divisive and dangerous. KK would have dealt with him without blinking an eyelid

  16. There is a saying in bemba which goes like this “Insoka nga nga bayuma kumute ilasuma ne cani”. For those of you who are Mukuni tribalists and need a translation it is “When a snake is hit on the head it even bites the grass”. Ask GBM if you don’t believe me, isn’t he the “vice president of upndeez”?

  17. Sorry correction of IT. There is a saying in bemba which goes like this “Insoka nga bayuma kumutwe ilasuma ne cani”. For those of you who are Mukuni tribalists and need a translation it is “When a snake is hit on the head it even bites the grass”. Ask GBM if you don’t believe me, isn’t he the “vice president of upndeez”?

  18. Imagine if Zambia had three tribes only namely tonga,lozi and Bemba!!we would be witnessing the worst genocide thanks we have over 73

  19. What is wrong with questioning kanshi? The chief has not even accused the head of state of being a foreigner. The man is only saying in view of many people raising this issue, can the man’s nationality be verified and we close the issue. Problem with PF is that others have not been to school, those who have been to school have to say something in order to put food on the table.

  20. Dear chiefs as respected tribe leaders,True leadership requires you to do your home work before you make an statement to your people.To my understanding if you are interested in this baseless issue by Mike mulongot.Did you go to eastern province and find out the truth.before giving statement.

  21. my late father used to tell us to “be connected “. I never understood until he explained to me that our tongue, brain, eyes and ears need to be connected other wise you will end up smiling wildly at a funeral when others are weeping. we often say a lot without our true self agreeing with wat we say. believe me most people are convinced that our president is zambian but are saying the opposite against their true belief.

  22. On this issue, I must agree with Mr Mwanza. I find it ridiculous and disconcerting for leaders to focus on irrelevancies. How can you begin questioning someone’s nationality after the event? ECL stood for the presidency twice and challenged in a national election. Why not raise it then? Origin isn’t the same as nationality or citizenship. If there are doubts, go through the right channels and allow due process. Not innuendo. We saw this kind of nonsense with KK, Chiluba, and Sata, whose nationality and eligibility for the pResidency was being questioned. When Guy Scott became VP, it was also questioned by some MPs and HH. Let’s separate the husks from corn, please. Our country needs the focus on real issues. ECL isn’t the right president for Zambia I agree, but let’s not use reasons…

  23. I had many foreigners class mares, many of whom have relocated to their countries of origin, those who have remained to work in Zambia does not make them zambian. The chiefs are zambian and have the right to raise such concerns, insulting them wound solve matters, for Mr Nwanza don’t tjink talking too much is being intelligent, days are numbered , clear he allegation that you asked UPND for a salary ,that they rejected your proposal and patotic front accepted hence your joining them, to us ordinary and intelligent Z ambians this allegation could be true, because not long ago you were anti – PF, what has changed over night, akso clear the allegation by your friend that you told him that you are growing old and you need money for your family, another allegation is that you are on zesco…

    • The point being what, sir? Zambia became a separate country in 1964. Before then, it was part of a federation. Those you call foreigners might not be, if they came from Nyasaland or Southern Rhodesia and where born within the federation. The xenophobia indicates a lack of self confidence. ECL was born in Rhodesia and Nyasaland period. For your information, most people were delivered at home, those days and indigenous Africans had no birth certificates.

  24. Zambians are a very funny people but Ok apa vintu sivili bwino so much confusion in this country. I really miss the oasis forum, Lucy sichone, Mwanawasa,Chiluba and Sata.

    • Sata was not part of the oasis forum. Mr Sata joined the MMD when everyone saw that Unip was definitely going to lose to the MMD.

  25. I went to Kalulushi this afternoon to listen to Kambwili’s rally. I expected him to explain what his candidate manifesto was but 3 quarters of the meeting concentrated on calling the president names. You wonder what agenda the man has for Zambians is it insults or something. Other ministers have either been releaved of their jobs or resigned. They gotten on with their lives. Surprisingly people were even jumping with joy at each insult Kambwili threw at the president.

  26. Tongas like Mukuni,Hamusonde are the ones who make HH lose election after election!!believe you me,it is tribalism which has killed HH over the years as many voters in 6.5 provinces believe that they will suffer under HH because tongas are too tribal!!!blind people like Mukuni and Hamusonde do not help matters either.moreover,HH must distance himself from such people.whether HH or Mukuni like it or not,the fact is people from 3.5 provinces in Zambia are few,meaning they cant enable HH to win the presidency minus majority Zambians from 6.5 provinces!!
    HH DOES VERY DANGEROUS POLITICS!!!anyway,Mukuni and Hamusonde continue promoting tribalism and you will see how far it will push your Kainde from state house!!

  27. In all fairness, let the Republican President put this matter to rest by providing his genealogy details. This matter must be confusing to all concerned and the Constitution must be respected. There is nothing wrong with what the 2 Chiefs have said. It’s their duty to speak on behalf of their people. Let the truth prevail. Advise to PF, stop all being self sponsored spokespersons of the President. You are making a mockery of him and not helping matters.

  28. Their is nothing wrong for people to question someone’s nationality for as long as that person is a public figure people will always question and it remains to the person being questioned to answer with facts and proof to prove the questionnaires wrong , it’s not for us to answer for otherwise for as long as the questioned individual doesn’t give satisfactory answers the case will not rest.

  29. Zambia is a lost cause in many aspects and worse those leaning constitutional and I give up! Diaspora is more organized for ones personal comfort!

  30. pLEASE DONT TELL LIES ABOUT NSENGA CHIEFS, IT IS WELL KNOWN THAT EASTERN HAS MANY CHIEFS AS OTHER PROVINCES , HOW CAN CHIEF MPEZENI FOR EXAMPLE KNOW OF SOME PARENT TO A CERTAIN KOSWE IN CHIEF NYANJE? ALL THIS IS JUST COOKED UP , ONLY ONE CHIEF SHOULD COME OUT STRONG ABOUT ECL’S PARENTS TO BE FROM THAT CHIEFDOM AND HEADMEN TO PARADE THE RELATIVES KWASILA

  31. Truth is that Edgar Chagwa Lungu as he calls himself with that fake identity, is a foreigner. A Rwandan. And us the indeginous Zambians are now saying WE DON’T WANT TO BE RULED BY FOREIGNERS ANY MORE! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. LUNGU HAS HELD US UNDER SIEGE IN OUR OWN COUNTRY. THIS CRIMINAL SHOULD BE THROWN INTO JAIL FOR IMPERSONATING.
    FOREIGNERS HAVE HIJACKED THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR COUNTRY FOR FAR TOO LONG NOW. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

  32. In my opinion, chiefs are supposed to bring people together. Still reeling in shock. If paramount chief Litunga and Chiti Mukulu, can and understand and move away from their surbodinates, why are we continue trying to play God. Hakaivotola Humwine, will never become president of Zambia and that is just his fate.

  33. It’s very disappointing indeed that very disgruntled so called Senior Chiefs can sink so low and join the political arena championing the most losing candidate at presidential level in the entire African continent. No wonder my fellow countrymen and women must be wary of some of issues to expect if we don’t vote wisely come 2021. Mukuni will bring genocide, because we can see his hate against other ethnic groupings which is a source of trouble.

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