Practice of police throwing teargas canisters into buildings not new

1. What is the point of this story?

   There should now be a law to ban such practices in Zambia.

   • Zambia Police are not professional, they are PF Cadres. Edgar is clearly a failure at being a Commander is Chief. How can someone like him then solve more complex problems like the economy and debt crisis

   • Watching the Never Mumba video is so sad.Why would police throw teargas to disperse such a small crowd whose political significance was negligable- that is just harassment and Stone age practice. A law should be passed to ban throwing tear gas in confined spaces.#JusticeforVespers May her death not be in vain.Something good needs to come out of this.This should mark the end of a brutal era.

   • CONTINUE KAILI TEAR GAS AND RIOTS
     1) Lachrymatory agents are commonly used for riot control. Their use in warfare is prohibited by various ) international treaties. During World War I, increasingly toxic lachrymatory agents were used.
     2) Certain lachrymatory agents are often used by police to force compliance, most notably tear gas.
     3) The self-defense weapon form of mace is based on pepper spray, and comes in small spray cans, and versions including CS are manufactured for police use.
     4)Danger: Do not fire directly at person(s). Severe injury or death may result. Such warnings are not necessarily respected, and in some countries, disrespecting these warnings is routine.
     Source: WIKIPEDIA. Let’s not go to Water Cannons and Rubber Bullets. In all these cases the results are deadly…

   • A water cannon is a device that shoots a high-velocity stream of water. Typically, a water cannon can deliver a large volume of water, often over dozens of meters. They are used in firefighting, large vehicle washing, riot control and mining. Most water cannons fall under the category of a fire monitor. Use of water cannon in riot control contexts can lead to injury or death,
     Rubber bullets (also called rubber baton rounds) are rubber or rubber-coated projectiles that can be fired from either standard firearms or dedicated riot guns. They are expected to produce contusions, abrasions, and hematomas. However, they may cause bone fractures, injuries to internal organs, or death.

   • Source: Wikipedia.
     Citizens’ lives are important
     That said and considering the unfortunate incident at UNZA, yesterday’s protests were not riots. Citizens of this land must always learn to observe civility. A few bunch of crooked individuals among students provoked police into action. Make no mistake police will ALWAYS rise to to protect property and innocent citizens that drive past UNZA on Great East Road. Police have and will always use these tools in their arsenal unless we learn to be civil at all times. Police are not evil. They are your friends. Don’t demonize them unless you are a law breaker.

   • I was watching National Geographic yesterday about Saddam. The suucker loved chemical weapons. The same shiit PF-Force are using in those small cans, Saddam loaded in drums and drop from air.

   • Did HH survive that teargas? Zambia might have been peaceful today.

2. Police should be made to account for such acts for the sake of professionalism

   • It is the only profession charged with the professional use of tear gas thus far.
     Let that sink in your cortex.

3. The point here is tear gas doesnt cause fire.
   Tayali may have a good point which police must follow up on

   • the pyrotechnics, which heat up the tear gas shells, can start fires.

   • grenades and shells incorporate pyrotechnic chemicals similar to the bursting explosives and flame-makers used in fireworks. These burning agents are needed in tear gas projectiles to turn the CS to mist, and the pyrotechnics, which heat up the tear gas shells, can start fires.

   • Tayali should start drinking may he might knows why he was born

4. The tear gassing of innocent Barotse people’s homes in Mongu on January 2011 directly leading to the death of one infant and also a TB patient, among the 17 others killed, according to the pre-empted Chongwe Commission of inquiry report by Dr. Rodger Chongwe himself, must find a place on this list.

   • On 14th January 2011

   • *19 others reportedly killed in that fracas

   • Cause and Effect! Think Twice? Prevention may be or is better than cure!
     The next time your brain will be wired into rioting, think about the vulnerable around you if you care. One thing is obvious, the men in uniform will always use tear gas or water canon or rubber bullets to disperse that angry mob you would be thinking of organizing.
     I fear rubber bullets, they sound like a gun and just imagine a real bullet is mistaken for a rubber. This happens in other countries and film industry.
     Get schooled. Protest peacefully, not violently because there is a lot at stake or stakes are high badala.
     I did not expect the stream of articles on this matter in this period. Is someone tryna get political gains?

5. Stop annoying us further. This was murder and pf apologized which is admission of guilt.

   PF

   AG

   IG

   All these must be sued even after pf is gone.

   Kampyongo must be sued in person al capacity when PF is gone

   • Wrong.
     Investigators don’t make conclusions like that. If you are a student, you have a lot to learn about forensic investigations.
     Evil people almost get away with careless insinuations like that.
     Listen to Kampyongo as a law enforcer in this context not as a politician.
     Now he made a statement to investigate this issue pre-during-post the incident.
     Tear gas never cause fires unless the deceased had a cooker or candle on. We cannot leave this issue to speculation. The headline also can not lead to conclusions that is why some people call for inclusion of independent investigators.

6. kikikiki this we shall continue infact fashion sakala deserves it he has lost steam we shall throw another one when Zambia meets guienea kikikiki kakakakakaka

7. Tear gas: an epidemiological and mechanistic reassessment

   Health effects of tear gas exposures
   Exposure to tear gas agents produces a wide spectrum of health effects, including acute and chronic effects. Studies have demonstrated specific receptor?mediated mechanisms of action of tear gas agents. Whereas these specific receptors contribute to their acute painful and irritant effects, the electrophilic reactivity of the agents, together with the toxicities of solvents and pyrotechnic reaction products, engages multiple toxicological mechanisms that remain to be studied.

   Immediate exposure effects
   CS and OC produce similar symptoms. Acute CS exposure at concentrations generally used by law enforcement for riot?control purposes results in instantaneous irritation to the eyes, nose,…

8. Pepper spray (OC) and o?chlorobenzylidene malononitrile (CS)

9. I am PF but honestly those employed to stop this tear gas nonsense need to rise to the occasion. With this illustration, I can see the money for student meal allowances in the national budget being diverted to tear gas purchasing. This cant continue guys. The level of intolerance from my government is just beyond comprehension. I am PF but very ashamed that in this country, our colleagues in the opposition can not even hold meetings. You have a PF secretary general telling cadres to share plots and you think he can stop this teargas nonsense with such high levels of immorality, for the avoidance of doubt, once again I am PF

10. The way our police behave these days is strange! They are too quick to get provoked as if they have RABIES! Sometimes they react even without just cause! A police Officer is trained to withstand verbal and all kinds of abuse in exercise of self-restraint! What we just need in Zambia is to increase the time of training from 6 months to three years! Human rights training is a must! Teargas should be banned in Zambia!

11. Strange in all the cases mentioned above only one resulted in a fire, this brings some questions. Why is it that there was fire in the latest one at unza which resulted in the death of an innocent student oviously not part of the riot. Does a tear-ganster cauase fire. I ask because i have witnessed many incidents of this both locally and internation but no fire involved. Did any one see ths ganster directed to the hostel ang from which direction. Because the verocity of a tear-gas ganster is not as fast as a bullet and can be visbly be seen through the air. What a know as a layman in the that fire is only involved at the lauching but the canster its self does not carry fire. Unly the police carries a detailed investigation this issue why just be political message. No doul that the police…

    • When people are rushed to evacuate because teargas is filling up the building they may well knock over a candle or leave a stove on etc. That could subsequently have caused a fire !?

12. Iwe chi Soso. Who killed versper?
    a. HH
    b. ECL
    c. PF
    d. UPND
    c. ZP
    f. tear gar
    g. fire

    Lets speculate….. all fingers cannot point at one thing. As you point you will discover that more fingers are point at you.

13. T.ongas hate us just because of our birthright, the presidency. They should just accept their birth right to be cattle drivers which we don’t contend with them about. The presidency ni yakumawa & our mbuyas. Ninkani yozibika.

14. One Zambia one nation, we should not allow people like Kumawa to divide us, the tide is changing and anyone from any tribe can be president. We have been independent for over 50 years and nothing to show forth still evacuating patients to SA. Tribe or wako no wako is not going to solve our problems, it’s just a scheme for some people to keep themselves in power for a long time while the masses suffer. Mugabe used the same scheme of tribe and it brought a once beautiful country to it’s knees. We refuse to let tribe bring us down. Our people need to wake up, the so called tribe mates are nothing but thieves without a care for their tribes mates.

    • China, I owe you a drink. Wise words.

15. All that is under the corrupt theif lungu…..

    Humble god fearing leader indeed…..

16. You have given us the definition, now what ? Is it that you had nothing to write about or Lusaka times has removed part of the Article?

    Because the article title and what we are reading are not matching.

17. The best people can do is avoid misbehaving. Otherwise the police will never carry bibles when called in to restore law and order.

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