Tuesday, April 16, 2024

There is a ploy by the West to Fix Countries Against Homosexuality-President Lungu

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President Lungu officially opens the 70th Anniversary of the World Council of Churches (WCC) and 31st General Conference of CCZ at Levy Patrick Mwanawasa Stadium.
President Lungu

President Edgar Lungu has said that there is a ploy by western countries to fix countries that are against homosexuality.

President Lungu said that the West has identified 69 countries world-wide which they will fix for being against the practice of homosexuality.

He has disclosed that Zambians should not be surprised when the country is fixed by the west, adding that nothing will change his stance on homosexuality because Zambians are Christians.

President Lungu was speaking when he met northwestern Province Pastors fellowship in Solwezi this afternoon.

He told the pastors that his advisors told him not to talk about it publicly, but that the matter kept on coming up on his mind.

And pastors’ fellowship chairperson Miselo Musonda said the clergy want a God-fearing man in State House.

Reverend Musonda said President Lungu has demonstrated that he is God fearing.

He wondered why some political parties have not spoken publicly to condemn homosexuality.

79 COMMENTS

  1. Nothing will change my stance on homosexuality too.

    No country should impose their homosexuality beliefs on the other.
    As elite Zambians we will object the issue of LGBTQ or I or whatever.

    • No amount of foote.
      No amount of h².
      No amount of ALN.
      No amount of UPNDEAD.
      No amount of pro LGBTQ or I commentator.
      No amount of Mwiimbu.
      No amount of Devil imwe.
      No no no no amount aid pilizi.

    • It is wrong to misuse “Christian Nation”. It is a dull way of thinking. The 69 countries he is putting category into are NOT christian nations.
      Homosexuality is not a ZAMBIAN thing. Therefore homosexuality is NOT Zambian. When we were growing up, boys we swimming away from girls. Meaning when we undressed as boys we saw our amathole, but never ever anyone got erections upon seeing friend’s akabukhala.
      If anyone touched ku maboolo, we either fought right there, or tell some older guys to beat a shiit out of the man. It was simply emparasing if anyone touched, but looking and laughing those who had tiny or circumcised ones, yes we teased and laughed.

    • This topic is too complex for you stick attacking UPND, the solution here is simple do not accept aid assistance from countries that have liberal laws like the US, UK, Germany, France. Lungu is too dull and too corrupt morally to handle this matter. This Christianity he just uses it to suit his agenda on Sundays whilst he is stealing everyday and becoming fatter and fatter.

    • As much as I’m against guy marriages or rights, I it true the west a fighting countries that are against this, the we need just to give in. We cannot win against them countries like zambia. By just mare embassador coughing , the kawcha depreciated

    • Praise the Lord. The earth is the Lord’s and the fullness thereof. We know that our economies are fixed and Group 4s think their puppy can make them better. Hafuna kugurisa.

  2. From climate change theory, now it’s claims of the west trying to fix you, what a scapegoat for your poor economic management skills.

    Gestapo German once accused the Jews for their downfall during the 1st world war, and some politicians used that bait to fish the gullible and make them believe, so that the cement their hold to political power.

    How can the same west impose that on you when even in America itself in some states same sex marriage is not legal.

    • That is exactly what it is,that is the agenda he wants to use to sway the country from the terrible consequences of his fullness and corruption. This is end of December where is the electricity you promised in August.Where are the farming inputs?Meanwhile time is ticking,20 more months baba….

    • How is this going to decide the election? Do you think your uncle in Katete or Vubwi District is concerned with such purposeless issues they waiting for inputs then he will say climate change yet he is de-gazzetting forests. This issue will simply finish him and the corrupt churches like UCZ will side with the next guy to come along with a fat cheque.

  3. LUNGU AND HIS CORRUPT PF GOVERNMENT ARE ALREADY IN FAVOR OF THIS VICE,THEY ARE BUSY DISTRIBUTING CONDOMS IN MALE PRISONS.WHAT IS HIS SAY ON THIS…………..

  4. All very true. They have still run the country into the gutter. Deflecting attention away from themselves and their complete failure.

    • Marijuana for medicine bamumbwe mwenbo ..get understanding first.. 8ts the same as saying that we should not sale bernlyn cough syrup

  5. Lungu failed this country long before this homosexual issues gained so much coverage. So Mr president do not try to sway the people into thinking that the problems in the country are being orchestrated by the West. The Kwacha is losing value because of your incompetency, poverty because of your poor planning and lack of focus. Whether homosexual or not, we need you to work and fix the country not the excuses you are trying to bring about.

  6. Zambians wake up and look out for half truths which are just as bad as fake news. Foote mentioned both homosexuality and corruption as two interlinked subjects. And yet look at the comments spewed out every day, just homo stories and no mention of corruption. They are using the homo half of the story to hide the corruption and more important half.

  7. “There is a ploy by the West to Fix Countries Against Homosexuality-President Lungu”-LT

    Sounds like the president Is against the new West, which is composed of different idea from different parts of the world, and he prescribe or agrees with the old West.

    “And pastors’ fellowship chairperson Miselo Musonda said the clergy want a God-fearing man in State House.
    Reverend Musonda said President Lungu has demonstrated that he is God fearing.”-LT

    Alan Mathison Turing, his work as reached far and wide, and the New West will make sure that he would be remembered …

  8. The more important truth which has driven the economy to the sewer and the citizens to destitution is rampant corruption, a lack of foresight and planning. Your homosexual and tribal stunt might just not work. If it works you will be the king of flies reigning over extremes of poverty. With coins floated your citizens will not resist any vice just to survive. Fix the economy.

  9. Are we missing something ? Is the talk about homosexuality going to fix the ecomomy ? What a mess! Are homosexuals responsible for decline of the kwacha?

  10. Of course. PF has put itself at crossroads with the west by for being a nationalistic party that seeks to secure the country’s assets and resources for its people. Homosexuality is a curse. All right thinking Zambians must reject it. Liberalism is unafrican.

    • @Zambian Citizens, how many homosexuals do you know? And how have they affected your life? I am sure they have not nor have they affected mine. Load shedding, corruption, lack of amenities are affecting both your life and mine everyday – unless you are among the “chosen” ones. And that is not right. People tend to believe in a higher power when they are hopeless. Hence playing the christian card on Zambians. There is no pilot in the plane called Zambia…sad, really sad…

  11. Yes Zambia is a Christian country, but the President Lungu is wrong again and again, here in Sky News : *****He say: We are a Christian country, not even the animals do the homosexuals, well the Mr. Lungu is wrong again, *******
    Lungu doesnt know the life that Zambians have. Where will you take the fees of the Marijuana ? $250 000 per Year ? Where have you put the increase from the health care ? from $25 million too 400 million ? All that money should go to the health care, where is the money from ? Sida (Swedish AID) Danida (Danish AID) USA (US AID) Why isnt the heathcare got better the last 3 years ??? Where is the money ??? Dont blaim the Gays on that too, Mr. Lungu take your…

  12. “……..He has disclosed that Zambians should not be surprised when the country is fixed by the west, ….”

    Lungu has seen he can not win any election without violence however he also knows the west are watching. He also knows if he loses he goes to jail.
    We now know lungu is preparing himself to be a rebel towards the west because to stay out of jail he will have to unleash PF violence that will be at odds with the west……

    Lungu 2 choices …..follow civilised elections and lose , ending in jail OR cling to power by any means , even if the west calls him a brutal dictator.

    By using the homo cover , lungu is preparing himself for a confrontation with the west through his clampdown on democracy.

    The opposition should be afraid, they should be very afraid.

    • Were you born yesterday?
      Kikikikikikijukija
      Next you will be calling us docile.
      What do you know?
      We will give him a landslide in 2021 as long as h² is the in opposition.

  13. The Stop receiving USA donor money .
    PF cadres should hold mass protests against;
    1)the US funded Lusaka drainage project. It must be stopped
    2) demand for the immediate stoppage of the $500 million per year funding to the health sector.
    3)Stop all funding for social cash transfers.
    ZAMBIA SHOULD NOT ACCEPT SUCH MONEY/FUNDING. Its unchristian and immoral to receive the money.

  14. The Stop receiving USA donor money .
    PF cadres should hold mass protests against;
    1)the US funded Lusaka drainage project. It must be stopped
    2) demand for the immediate stoppage of the $500 million per year funding to the health sector.
    3)Stop all funding for social cash transfers.
    ZAMBIA SHOULD NOT ACCEPT SUCH MONEY/FUNDING. Its unchristian and immoral to receive the money.

    • Ba Independent naimwe, are you saying we should accept homosexuality just because we are receiving their aid? No way bwana. Even you, you have never bent down to allow another man misuse your a$$

    • Total skewed point of view from this independent thing.
      Missing the point as usual.
      Indeed his/her @$$ is completely intact as we speak. Maybe he/she is an abuser of the @nu$ already.
      The moment they are yapping that HIV/AIDS is reducing, they are bringing other complications.
      Leave as alone with our heterosexual inclinations. God designed it that way mwe.

  15. Dull J0na WABANTU!!
    CORRUPT, & SO VIOLENT, HIS DRUNKEN TAIL IS BETWEEN HIS LEGS, LACKING THE COURAGE TO “SACK” PRESIDENT K@!ZAR ZU1U!

  16. by saying 15 years jail sentence was to o much while leaving the corrupt scort free by ambassador footie from my understanding, didn’t mean the USA wants to introduce gay rights in Zambia.
    How come now it has become topical and further even accuse the upnd. ls it for political gain? it’s from this background that most sober minded citizens are just quite doesn’t mean that they support introduction of gay rights. For we know that zambians wont allow that to happen.Even upnd will never allow that if it formed grz.
    Let’s us just fix the economy.

    • You definitely did not read Foote Daniel’s narrative properly. He confused you squarely.
      Go back to school, this time learn using American English.
      Thank you.

    • Mr. P
      Not all moslems are terrorists.
      But almost all terrorists are moslems. Mmmh! Maybe.
      Not all Tongas are upndead.
      But almost almost all upndeads are Tongas. True.
      Not all upndeads support homosexuality in Zambia.
      But all supporters of homosexuality in Zambia are upndead. True.
      I still believe that the problem is not Tongas but tribal h² and is die hard tribal grouping many of whom populate insults on this blog.
      So whichever f00l is going to insult me on this comment is surely unequivocally upndead. My thought.

  17. From the comments by up and down bloggers it is clear that they are supporting homosexuality. As Zambians, we need to wake up and say no to a satan worshipper in sate house in 2021.They are shameless creatures who can sell this country to gays.

  18. Sodomy is a very disgusting act, whether it’s a man penetrating an anus of a fellow man or a man penetrating an anus of a woman. It’s just nauseating, sickening. On this one I’m 100% with our Republican President. I think what ambassador Foote was expecting was a light jail sentence of only 6 months or so.

  19. Ambassador Foote talked about homosexuality and corruption. Why are you emphasising so much on homo and not a single mention of corruption? And some people are so gullible that they can’t see the real concern of these politician, votes votes votes in 2021.

  20. Can you even define corruption? For I care you are equally corrupt.

    Collect evidence, charge and prosecute.
    The problem is when chant corruption! Corruption! You like CKinsultor always falls short of envidence and procedural undertaking to prosecute alleged corrupt individuals.
    Don’t misuse the word corruption.

  21. Awe Sir those are very, very old politics. I hope that is not what your new advisor is feeding you. There is just mismanagement going on – can you NOT see!??? Kwena eee. In UNIP days when things went awry there was always an excuse (saboteurs, enemies, etc.). In your days there is climate change and the west. Just because China is bringing you free cash at the expense of high contraction of debt doesn’t mean they are friends to the country. Awe mwe!

  22. In the US a man has been jailed 15 years for shredding a pro LGBT banner. Just like GMO, prostitution, this is one issue on which interest groups world over will continue to differ. People should just learn to respect the law

  23. Just concentrate on fixing the economy baba. You dont gain by shooting in your own foot and pointing fingers at others or wrong directions – diverting attention they say. US or the West have nothing to do with the economy and can support good governance kwasila. Forget about gays and lesbians thats their own indaba. Besides these things are done behind closed doors and no one can promote that. So its all about loadshedding, hunger, late payment of salaries etc its as simple as that. Get to work and all will be fine. Its like the boss has nothing to tell the people why people should vote for them again.
    Dsaster!!!

  24. Lungu has no issues to discuss. Is homosexuality the only thing he can talk about? What about load shedding, unemployment and unmanageable debt?

  25. What a load of b.ull! Some bloggers (the usual supects like ‘citizen’ and Thorn in the a.ss) are also regurgitating ECL’s irrelevant sing-song. This is tiring. The man cannot articulate on the more crucial issues facing the country and so chooses to pick something he can unashamedly use to turn the gullible to his side. Ati ‘Zambia is a Christian nation’. Since when? In theory? ‘Heterosexuals’ are committing more terrible sexual crimes everyday than the invisible homosexuality you keep drumming about. Insn’t it unZambian to rape, abuse women or defile children?

  26. Why cant you do the most noble thing Dictator Edgar Chagwa Lungu. Resign as you have failed. You think the West do think about such a low status President. You have failed Govern Zambia – Plain truth. Don’t shift attention to the West

    PF: FAILED PROJECTS
    1. Goats export to Saudi Arabia (failed project)
    2. Marijuana export to Unknown Destination??? (another to fail project)
    3. Importing of Crude Oil from Saudi Arabia (failed project)
    4. Importing of Electricity Power from South Africa (failed project)
    PF: Successful Projects
    1. Purchase of Presidential Private Jet ($65 million USA Dollars)
    2. Purchase of Transport planes for local use by President Lungu (Millions of Dollars)
    3. Exportation of Mukulu trees by Lungu and his Cartel (Millions of Dollars)
    4. Sale of Black Lechwe to…

  27. Cont…. PF: FAILED PROJECTS
    4. Sale of Black Lechwe to Private Ranches (Millions of Dollars)
    5. Purchase of Salaula firefighting trucks from USA(Millions of Dollars)
    6. Exporting of maize to neighboring Countries when Zambia has a shortage of mealie
    meal
    7. Evacuation of useless…
    Cont…..
    7. Evacuation of useless Politicians for special treatment in South Africa (Millions of Dollars)
    8. Construction of 47/49 mansions in Lusaka, owners identity hidden (Millions of Dollars)
    9. Over 100 hundred trips per year by Edgar Lungu (Millions of Dollars)
    The list goes on and on. What a tragedy

  28. This is a despotic strategy that makes govt sound desperate. Anything that goes wrong ati “the West is plotting!” Starvation, poverty, unemployment you can point to “the West” while you laugh and drink beer

  29. From all the comments I read above it explains very well why Zambia is very poor and it will remain like that, depending on handouts for the coming 50 years. I am not sure if bad education or slavery mentality. No wonder they eat animal feeds as they staple diet. Fact: maize have no nutritional value to humans. Their diet I think also contribute to their cowish thinking.

  30. Fine..then dont take or ask for foreign aid. Like it or not, its Pay for Play..
    Like Foote, I find imprisoning consenting adults reprehensible and deeply offensive..as a result, I promise America will never accept foreign aid from Zambia! Merry Christmas…

  31. so u think yo tribal hh wil b yo mesaya? and he even failed to help pipo wher has come from with o those riches, he has no heart for the pipo . wait for gay marriages as he becomes yo president

  32. Don’t prepare us for misery. If only the govt had a plan where the country will be in 2021 then all these excuses won’t be needed.

  33. Dont care for American opinions on sovereign issues? Then don’t take our money! American taxpayers agree (a recent poll-84%) with Foote’s right to express his compassionate concerns. I dont want my tax dollars propping up a kleptocrat while sentencing two gay men to 15 years in jail!

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