The UPND says it is unfortunate that Catholic Priest Fr. Lastone Lupupa could issue divisive and careless statements regarding the August elections.
UPND Secretary General Stephen Katuka says the remarks made by Fr. Lupupa are insensitive and divisive and are likely to undermine the credibility of the forthcoming general election.
Mr Katuka says Fr. Lupupa should be in the forefront preaching peace and love and not hate speech.
He said it is foolish and sad that a man of God is now a fully fledged party cadre belonging to the PF.
In a video that has gone viral, Fr. Lupupa is heard suggesting that it is better to rig elections than to allow an opposition political party to win the forthcoming general polls.
He could be further heard stating that some politicians do not deserve to be elected to the presidency because there are too selfish and have potential to cause turmoil in the country.
Several people have taken to social medial to condemn Fr. Lupupa for his statement calling it careless.
If people unite keep a satan HH it is a good advice ata
I hope the Police have now moved in on Father Lupupa on the offence of attempting to committ a felony. To rig in order to keep somebody on earth? Totally unacceptable, it will be very strange if this person is relieved of his duties before he divides the flock
What a nation! We have pathetic politicians and now pathetic priests!
This is not hate speech but the truth you need to change for the better that is what the clergy is saying here and he didn’t mention names so if you are guilty why not just change God has spoken
Emmanuel Bwalya taking people to court for stealing is not stone heartedness or vengeance,if a jersuit father cannot describe such correçtly,what do you expect,don’t support blindly
EMMANUEL JUST CHEW WHAT YOU ARE CHANGE IS IN THE AIR. IN RWANDA GENOCIDE WAS CHAMPIONED BY THESE CATHOLICS
True
In short ba UPND feel they are the ones who were being talked about by Father Lupupa… But answering a village call like that shows only one thing because the father didn’t mention names
Sitali Simui a man hiding behind the sunset sees the father’s remarks as okay. Lol. They must be paying you really well to act this stupid
Nyimbili Sullen hello my good follower… You can only see those remarks as incorrect if you are not objective in your understanding of things…. The fact is to be a leader one needs to get rid of a lot of things so that he/she is fortified to lead. The father emphasized issues of vengeance but as always.. little minds have only picked one word out of all that leaving everything else and we know they can only do that for political sympathy and expediency.
I don’t have to be paid by anyone to be a reasonable citizen to sees things what they are.
Sitali Simui so you and father lupupa set up rules for who become a leader?lol, it’s funny you say “the fact is, to be a leader….” don’t you think that is illusions? Let’s be serious for once stranger, that was subjective hate speech period. Do you even know the definition of facts?? Funny you are silent about rigging. See we all love Zambia and would love to see the people we support in places of authority, but not at the expense of the entire country. Don’t throw the baby with the bathing water
Nyimbili Sullen I repeat father Lupupa didn’t mention names…. In Bemba they say, ” Imbila yamushi takuli ukwasuka” because when you do it means you are the culprit. If truly there was no truth in what Father Lupupa said you wouldn’t have been so disillusioned over the matter
Nyimbili Sullen nga telesphore mpundu, its ok for him to go ranting
Sitali Simui lol, do you need to mention names when planning to rig elections??? Yama. Don’t just defend, in 1994, Rwanda also had people like you. I advise you read widely
Sitali Simui its simple as the truth hurts ,no names mentioned but if the shoe fits,let whoever feels so wear it kwamana.
Chishimba Mumba ranting? Are we on the same page?
Nyimbili Sullen, clearly u are wasting your bundle enganging in discourse with Chishimba Mumba.U are not on the same page or level??
Why is it HH this or that all the time? HH is a force to reckon with. The PF Leadership and its surrogates are so scared of HH’s Presidency. HH is a No Nosense Man who doesn’t tolerate Corruption and irresponsible leadership. That’s why HH is hated by the entire PF Leadership. U cannot stop HH becoz his time has come. All right thinking Zambians who want better life and Good Governance should vote 4 HH on August 12,2021. Continued ECL and PF Rule in 2021 and beyond will be a disaster for Zambia. The writing is on the wall.
“If the shoe fits, wear it.” This simply means that those who feel the message is theirs, they should adjust accordingly. It seems people do not read between the lines.
Hate speech is hate speech. Any well meaning person should condemn it whether undp or not. Partisan politics should not change facts. If you see the father’s comments as okay because they seem to favor you, then you are part of the problem.
I have said many time here that it isn’t good politics to promise anyone punishment but that’s exactly what the Freemason does. The UPND has only 3 missions in their quest to install Kadansa as President of this country. The 1st is to achieve the tribal dream of having a Tonga as President of this country. The 2nd is to have an opportunity to punish perceived political enemies. And the 3rd is have chance to plunder the wealth of this country. So to a large extent Father Lupupa is very right. What hasn’t the UPND done just to wrestle power? They blew up pylons, burnt markets and schools, manufactured all manner of lies, they even insulted and endangered the life of a sitting President at Kalabo. What Fr Lupupa has done is nothing compared to the UPND evils
God rigs elections just to stop someone from becoming President? You are of your father the devil sir. He is a murderer and he was a murderer from the beginning. The pulpits of the world are filled with false prophets and pastors who were never sent by God. Churches have become political platforms. 70 million Americans deceived by false prophets.
Surely very ungodly, very divisive, illegal and unacceptable that a house of God can be turned into a political platform to try and sway the church into voting for the Presidential candidate of the Fathers’ choice
The Zambian people expect the catholic bishops to move with speed in relieving this catholic priest of his duties on such a straight forward issue awash with digital evidence all over. The pulpit and God the Almighty should be respected and should not be used for partisan politics
How can a priest preach to rig an
Election?All he should have said
Was Zambians to decide who they
Want as president.
If Biden stole the election from trump…we will also not allow those to come into power.
Nothing points to hate speech here. It is the stone cold truth and if upnd feel guilty about it, it’s their fault. The clergy is preaching love and denouncing violence, hate and vengeance. He refers to Sata and how God worked to guide him to power, what is wrong with that?? Upnd need deliverance….
People should listen to the whole sermon. Someone decided to produce the excerpt out of context.
If it means rigging elections to stop tribal leaders from sneaking into power……so be it.
Listen from the man og God…..
Dr’s Lupupa as a PF Cadre but he is speaking the truth . Fr Lupupa realises that ECL his PF Leader today cannot win free,fair,credible and peaceful Elections on August 12,2021. To retain Power ,Fr Lupupa is calling 4 the rigging of Elections. We are told that Leadership comes from God but if God doesn’t listen to ECL’s prayers 4 a Third Term then Election Rigging by ECL is justified. No matter how much Fr Lupupa hates HH he must realise that his time to Govern this Country has come. Fr Lupupa cannot stop what God has wished for HH. Praise the Lord!
Nothing wrong here. He is just telling some opposition to be humble. I also tell my fellow UPND supporters that your party president is not a real person. He has promoted division in the country through complaining that Tongas are being left out as a result Tongas feel like they are not well treated. But the same church elder forgets that SDA positions in the church is filled by 90% of tongas in all conferences including the people who clean the churches and secretaries. let us learn to be humble. Father Lupupa is right HH can coz chaos in this country. Even people supporting can end up regreting.The background of HH is bad. He came into politics through tribalism. You can run a run when you think your tribal is being mistreated. That is so dangerous mission for somebody aspiring for…
Moscow (op), a short history lesson would do u a world of good. Get to read about the history of Christian missionary penetration into Zambia and u will understand why so many Tongas, and mainly from Monze west and not elsewhere in Southern province, are in leadership positions in SDA church and your baseless tribal allegation will be exposed. The SDA church first established itself at Monze in Northern Rhodesia and only spread elsewhere later on. The same with the Salvation Army at Chikankata. Tonga domination there is due to historical factors, the same way Bemba domination in the mines is due to historical factors. Please note that both the SDA and SA were small churches with few resources to spread to the whole country compared to Catholic church.
Contnue!!. You can run a run when you think your tribal is being mistreated. That is so dangerous mission for somebody aspiring for presidency. Ask my fellow tongas how they feel?
When you go to the Jehovas Witnesess church, you can tell from the standards of the bible talks, the discipline, the tone and the orderliness that this is a true religion of God Almighty. If an elder strayed the way this Lupupa chap did, he would have been history from the kingdom hall same day.
The catholic church has fallen prey to receiving bribes from PF officials in their churches every sunday, and surprisingly they cheer and ululate in church to such lubbish. So it is not strange that you will see Lupupa behaving like that, in the forefront encouraging rigging on behalf of PF, am sure enving Frank Bwalya in Australia a former catholic priest appointed high commissioner but surely Lupupa doing it the wrong way, very sad indeed.
Like Telesphore being bribed by hh and GBM???
I understand that Fr Lastone Lupupa is a Jesuit, the Catholic order of teachers and scholars. I think media houses such as Radio Phoenix should give Fr Lastone air time so that he answers questions from voters. Who are the “others”? If he’s a real Jesuit, he should know that democracy can produce a result that he personally may not like. American democracy produced President Trump. Hillary Clinton didn’t criticise American democracy for that although she, like many Americans, didn’t like that result. In the final analysis, American democracy self-corrected and Trump has been put in his place.
If you don’t see a way in front of you, you always take a blame on some1, some leaders are not fit to lead. If you know some1 can’t play soccer, why allowing them when you surely know that you will loose, some of us we love football but we can’t play it.
Ka Bwe choosing leaders is all about speculation mune. We do not know how they will lead until they are chosen to do so. We are not prophets. Are you telling me Lungu was chosen because he stole from a widow and had his licence suspended while HH wasn’t chosen because he is a successful businessman employing thousands in his companies and contributing millions in taxes to the treasury? If that’s the criteria then we are a very very dull citizenry
But the word ‘people’ doesn’t mean an individual, it just the lack of understanding.
Fr.Lupupa has misread the Bible. The Bible says Godly Leadership comes from God . Leaders who come to Power thru rigged Elections cannot be said to be appointed by God. Fr Lupupa realises that ECL cannot win a clean Election on August 12,2021. The only way for ECL to retain Power is to rig the 2021 Election. That is telling coming as it is from a Man of the cloth. That shows how desperate ECL and PF are to retain Power. The Opposition should take Fr Lupupa threat to rig the 2021 Elections seriously. Measures to protect the Vote on August 12,2021 should be put in place now. The writing is on the wall.
We loose credible Fathers like Father Chilinda who were focused on uniting the nation and we remain with such divisive ones. Can the catholic bishops please show leadership on this level of indiscipline from Father Lupupa
I now miss Father Chillinda dearly, he would never say such things, him was just about uniting the nation, strangely congregants will go again next week to listen to this father who is asking that elections should be rigged, trust me will flock again to this church, very strange
Father was prophesying in a way. He was hard on the character of some aspiring candidates.There is what is known as a lesser devil. The core message was not rigging elections but the questionable characters of some politicians. TUne to radio 1 of znbc every wednesday after 21:00 for amapinda ne nsoselo for free
Vincent Mwape so how does saying ‘better we rig you can quote me’ translate into a message about not rigging??
Mwimanenwa Kamona he meant a lesser evil.Jesus said at one point ,if a part of your body leads you to sin,chop it off ,”better to enter the kingdom of God with one hand…”
In other words,he meant some politicians as of now are not totally fit to rule the nation.
Vincent Mwape Lungu stole from a widow, drank a lot and under his government we have seen the worst corruption in the history of this country. How can that be a lesser evil compared to a man you can not even pinpoint one evil deed he has done?
Mwimanenwa Kamona please revisit his sermon once more,hopefully you will pick a part he bases his comparison
Vincent Mwape his sermon was damaged by that one phrase of rigging. Nothing can justify the need to rig. Voting is the will of the people and no one has the right to change that will based on a funny perception of lesser evil. What qualifies someone to decide what is lesser evil on behalf of the country? There is no justifying this bane. The man has been roundly condemned because his utterances were divisive and wrong. Chapwa.
Vincent Mwape so the ones who have brought the economy to its knees right now are the ones who are fit to rule?
Vincent Mwape what is lesser evil? Evil is evil chapwa. I’m Catholic and in his congregation. What then should I pick from that sermon? That rigging is good as long as in my opinion it is a lesser evil? Does God need rigging to install leaders in their positions? That is strange to me. I thought God is all powerful and all knowing, why then should he need rigging? Os tichimwisa imwe bantu.
UPND castigates Fr. Lupupa while PF zealots are quiet. Other times PF castigates Archbishop Mpundu and UPND cadres in all manner and form keep quiet. So what’s the difference between you two?
“Only a Tonga can rule upnd” now that is divisive and abhorrent
Paul Tembo Chanda Chiul Chaswala Mukupa Yoram imwe ba muntu kindly define for me what “HATE SPEECH” is. Ine maybe i need someone’s guidance mwe
Kelvin Silwimba vakulolavye
Yoram Phiri ???
He went overboard because you have to preach peace even when you are partisan inside. I think the Mother Church has taken note of the public outcry and soon or later he will be disciplined
Paul Tembo he only messed up when he talked about the rigging and using the church pulpit. However if the mother body are true supporters of a good democracy then they need to understand that he has a right of association and to freely express his political views.
Meantime expression of a political view is no hate speech at all
Danny Chandrey Phiri Jr. Listen to the radio ?
Yoram Phiri the Radio ? is always louder ?
Fr Lupupa is not naive. He made this sermon in Church to provoke The Catholic Leadership to suspend or defrock him. This will give him the freedom to stand as a PF MP Candidate for the August 2021 Elections. Fr Lupupa has learnt from Fr Frank Bwalya that joining and serving PF has huge Financial rewards. Given the Covid-19 Restrictions Church collections have dwindled while his financial stipends from the PF Govt has increased sharply. Fr Lupupa knows where his bread is buttered.
in the last days people will like to hear what their ears want to hear and not to truth gospel of our lord the father of our lord Jesus Christ,those in support of the father that is your opinion we can’t all think the same,but the truth is that the father was not suppose to use the pulpit for campaigning for PF knowing that there are different congregant from difference political part what would you expect them to react to such sermon if at it is a sermon of hope and love of which i don’t think so.
This one is bored with the church and has seen seen his friend Father Frankl Bwalya was sent to Australia as Ambassodor
Father Lupupa didn’t mention motoka na namba awe. Why is the upnd responding? Is this camp the only political camp in Zambia? The priest instead he was just articulating why some politicians will not kiss State House because God has seen their character.
I am wondering why the upnd is feeling so pinched by the video….
Why did he mention rigging that is very careless for a man who claims to be a priest sherperding Gods people.Anyway he will account for his words before the Almighty if he does not repent
Peter Mongeza If you were a smart person, you were going to tell straight up who that guy was referring to.
Chishala Patrick Kunda no we don’t operate on assumptions. Let’s deal with facts
Peter Mongeza bushe fikumishe banani ifi. No name was mentioned.
Chisha Kapumba ifi mune fikumine ama politicians. He was analyzing the good and the bad leader
This is a country where we hear of tribal greatness based on distant ancestors having been leading elephant hunters, leading in tribal warfare, slave raiding and little else. Edgar Ng’oma alias Angoni has in fact said as much in a WhatsApp posting which is available on the web. May hv been admirable in times past but irrelevant in the age of the nation-state with citizens and not subjects, elected leadership not hereditary rulers. Where’s this “greatness” as we face grinding poverty? Why look to the state if u’re great?
Plz leave fr lupupa alone
Fr. Lupupa rocks. He never mentioned names of people in his sermon. But the guilty ones have understandably taken offence. As they say, the truth hurts.
There’s no way a preacherman could be supporting a terrible wrong like rigging elections. That kind of preaching can set a country on fire
That was not a off the cuff statement.
The priest just spoke what they speak in their grouping. The sad part is that he encouraged cheating, next someone will suggest another route of getting political power besides voting, because of such unguarded statements.
THIS PRIEST IS A DANGER TO OUR DEMOCRACY , HE IS NOT DIFFERENT FROM TRUMP SUPPORTERS.
How can a Jesuit preach that the end justifies the means? Is he really a Jesuit or they hv lowered the standards?
Wow, father Lupupa probably collected his cheque.
what if other people suggest an antidote to his rigging suggestion?
This is why when you vote make sure its counted and announced before you leave the polling station that will be the only democratic antidote to his rigging suggestion. MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS COUNTED AND ANNOUNCED BEFORE YOU LEAVE THE POLLING STATION, DON’T LET THOSE COUNTING VOTES DECIDE FOR YOU WHO SHOULD BE YOUR LEADER.
Eish! the rigging part was arborring to say the least. Would we be wrong to assume that 2016 elections was rigged just to stop HH from entering state house? Are we the next Uganda, Zimbabwe or Congo DR? May be that’s why some people have been confident of winning elections despite their ineligibility. Where on earth can find or hear a priest encouraging cheating?
Mr. Priest, before you stand in front of the congregation, make it a habit to ask God to take over so that what you are used just as a vessel to say only that which is from him and not yourself. What we see here is the fresh battling it out with the spirit. Dont you know that in the church there are people with divergent political views? God is not a God of confusion and no way he can use evil means to attain his plans. I.e. rigging for the sake of peace. That is a freshly thought you should have kept to yourself.
He also does have a right to opinion
Nchimunya Halwiindi he was preaching in church.
The priest clearly states rigging elections is better than HH taking over presidency.
This is what happened in Rwanda before the genocide. Priest’s planted hatred and created a toxic environment. They had a hand in the genocide. How many of the priests have been brought to books.
Quite a few fled to France/ Belgium/Canada, they were caught.
These kind of utterances will cause bloodshed/anarchy/ genocide.
The likes of KZ will be happy.
You just had to say my name you freak haha
His speaking his mind, you can also speak yours
Watch “Father Lupupa; tribalism” on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6TV6HDCbSZ0
Watch “Chishimba Kambwili was Betrayed” on YouTube
https://youtu.be/pz_RkSZrfYo
Is Kanpyongo going to call Father Lupupa in for questioning over his electons rigging utterances. He seems to know slot about rigging electons. Surely there should be a charge for promoting electons rigging.
Is Kampyongo going to call Father Lupupa in for questioning over his electons rigging utterances. He seems to know slot about rigging electons. Surely there should be a charge for promoting electons rigging.
Fellow Zambians, always remember that there are many wolves clad in sheep skins. so am not surprised that this man can speak that way. He was merely exposing his hidden agenda even when he stands in front his blind followers.
Very evil Father Lupupa
This Cadre fada oso
There is your christian nation for you! Continue giving tithes and all and sundry to your priests. Proves he is just human, encouraging lies(does Rwanda ring a bell?) . Ine, I am on a direct line with God. I do not need a “telephone operator” in between.
It is a reminder of how the men of the pulpit can inflame a nation and participate in inciting the citizens to engage in violent activities. Fr Lupupa should be advised that if violence was to break out in Zambia he will be one the people to be cited and recommended for prosecution by the International Court of Justice.
So Fr Lupupa has reached the Conclusion that ECL cannot win a free,fair and credible Election on August 12,2021? He knows that the only way 4 ECL to retain Power is by rigging the 2021 Elections. That’s very informative. Now we know why ECZ is manipulating the Voters Roll and Concourt is not clear on whether or not ECL qualifies 4 a Third Term. ECZ and Concourt are underwriters of ECL’s Third Term and Election Victory in August 12, 2021. Will Fr Lupupa’s Election Rigging Predictions come to pass. We shall see.
It is very important that Fr Lupupa is called to order by the Catholic establishment . Is it the position of the Catholic Church to advocate to rig the elections?
The danger this poses for the church if they do not act to rein him in , would be that another ‘ Fr Papuba ‘ might propose that the army take over the country.
PF should have distanced themselves from this statement , because it i criminal and tries to subvert the constitution. In this instance you would expect the President of PF to show leadership.
This time Zambians let’s not go to slumber. When we vote we should go back to our respective polling stations to witness the counting of votes at 18hrs immediately after voting closes. We should not leave room for rigging. Parallel Vote Tabulation must be there.
To put blant FR Lupupa was saying its better to rig than allowing a Tonga(HH) to rule.He was telling fellow Bemba who he thought are the majority in the Catholic church.This is very unfortunate and Jehova will not allow it.Abash Tribalism ,Abashi backwardness .
Did he mention Tonga?. I would agree if your deduction led to HH. I wonder why UPND supporters equate HH to Tonga. If you say no to HH – for them you have said no to Tongas.
The Truth always hurts unfortunately but what Father Lupupa said is true for everyone with the true heart for Zambia.
Atase! Bu father bwakutomba tukampenga pamatako… am not suprised that he spews diarrhea from his dirty mouth.
A t a s e! Bu father bwa ku t o m b a tukampenga p a m a t a k o… am not suprised that he spews diarrhea from his dirty mouth.
I miss Father Chilinda, well measured and a true servant of God, not these politicians called Priests like this Lupupa chap
Former Bishop Mpundu???
He didn’t mention any names
It wasn’t hate speech he was simply describing a good and bad leader
Wolf in Sheep skin
Katuka upnd has already lost this coming election so just leave the Father alone. Your party should be worried coz it doesn’t even have a running mate. Its like other politicians have realised that hh just wants to use them to get votes and later dump them as diapers
Why is the upnd triggered when no names were mentioned
I am not Catholic but my catholic colleagues seem to have a high regard for Jesuit priests. I am told this gentleman is a Jesuit priest!!! Absolutely carnal and disgusting words! Someone who claims to have a relationship with God unashamedly advocating the rigging of elections in a so called christian country!! For those supporting him because he has freedom to express his opinion, I guess you would be in support of an opposition-inclined priest preaching from the pulpit that even if we have to use a gun its alright as long as we change leadership? Watching to see how the Catholic church handles this.
Father Lupupa is light years ahead of the pack. He is a visionary, he can see things in the spirit that us the mere mortal can not comprehend. unfortunately the guity are always afraid….Leave the father alone.
Very S.tupid Priest
He’s certainly not a Jesuit priest on the lines of Fr Joseph Moreau, Fr Brendan Carmody, Fr Clive Dillon-Malone, the recently departed Fr Michael Kelly and Fr Charles Chilinda. His sermons are not well-thought-out. He just stands up and starts preaching.
Playing victim…
He didn’t mention anyone in the sermon you guys are just guilty
Did Father Lupupa mention any political party??
Johwie Joseph he didn’t…not even a name but looks like the shoe fits someone!!!
Harrison Mulie Mumba Boi people are just bitter for nothing. I love that priest and it annoys me to see stupid people throwing shade at him.
Johwie Joseph my man…its a pity that some people are emotional…
Harrison Mulie Mumba they should ther emotions somewhere else those are the few Men of God we are left with.
Johwie Joseph I totally agree my man
Harrison Mulie Mumba yeah man
SINCE KAMBA ANA KAMBA KAMBA PALI BA TELESPHORE MPUNDU BY COMPLAINING TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THOSE WHO ARE OFFENDED BY THIS FATHER LOO POOPer SHOULD ALSO COMPLAIN TO THE PAPAL NUNCIO. I HOPE THE NUNCIO WILL CENSURE LOOPOOPER THE WAY HE CENSURED TELESPHORE.
Father Chipuba.
The rigging part was a metaphor get over it people
Nancy Micheelo Tell them Nance. !!
Let them just do some self introspection than castigating an innocent man… He is not the cause of their baseless frustrations
Awe leave the priest alone imwe ba guilty
Very shallow unobjective comments from the likes of @Sitali and the usual ridiculous @Zambian citizen. Conveniently ignoring the diatribes about rigging that the priest made. It is not even about whom he was referring to, that’s in his skull. It’s the stu.pidity of suggesting that it may be necessary to rig. Where is that kind of conversation supposed to take us in an environment where we fighting everywhere to get rid of authoritarianism and intolerance? Including having to respond to the backward tiresome folk on this forum.
The sermon was eye opening they would have learned from it not busy making noise
Just pick one or two things from the sermon limbi lesa kuti achitako consider otherwise plot 1 theliz no
If Fr. Lupupa were to say something ugly about ECL and PF, unpd would gladly welcome it like the do for mukuni, tresphore, luonde, mambo, seer 1.
Even intelligent and informed people do and say dumb things sometimes. Groupthink is killing some priests in the Catholic church. Anyway he has apologized which is devine and great but is too much to expect from certain political groupings.