Transparency International Zambia (TIZ) has charged that only desperate people with ill motives can be against a transparent system such as the Parallel Voter Tabulation system.
TIZ Executive Director Goodwell Lungu in a statement released to QFM today said it is extremely worrying that a wrong picture is being painted that a Parallel Voter Tabulation system in Zambia is illegal and can cause confusion, when the MMD used the same system during the 2008 presidential elections when it projected that president Rupiah Banda would win by 62,000 votes.
Mr Lungu said as far as TIZ is concerned the the system provided adequate checks,balances and promoted transparency ,and challenged Zambians not to allow a few selfish people to shoot down a tool that provides opportunities for greater transparency in the electoral process.
He added that it is not enough for Zambians to cast their vote, but that they should protect their vote and ensure that their choice is protected.
Mr Lungu has since declared that Transparency International Zambia is seriously considering looking at the possibility of undertaking a Parallel Voter Tabulation Exercise.
He added that they have already scheduled activities to train and deploy election monitors in most of the polling stations in Zambia and that working together with other CSOs, they intend to place monitors in all polling stations.
He further stated that they will consider the option of conducting a PVT to complement the work of the election monitors.
Mr Lungu challenged the Electoral Commission of Zambia to tell the nation which law disqualifies citizens from adding up declared results by presiding officers to compare with officially announced results.
He noted that the Electoral Code of Conduct, Statutory Instrument No.90 of 2006, the Electoral Regulations of 2006, Regulation 14 already provides for media to disclose election results.
QFM
No wonder everybody is still waiting for new passports in the diaspora after 1 year! Washington DC embassy collected passport fees for Rupiah’s campaigns!
TIZ, thats good news. please, go ahead!
The chaps simply want to rig. Thats why they are scared
THIS IS GOOD TIZ OUR VOTES HAVE BEEN GOTTEN BY THESE SELFISH MMD
shikapwasha should not think all zambians are ignorant of their rigging tacts. PVT would expose their rigging and this what VJ, shikapwasha and crooked MMd is scared of.
This tamwaitambe bwino; we are watching you and we will not sit back and see rig our votes.
If Shikapwasha want pipo to accept results without disputes he should advise Rupiah to allow PVT; otherwise there will be disputes after elections.
Shikapwasha is not more zambian than all zambians. DECIDE WITH THE INTEREST OF ZAMBIANS AT HEART. What a Rev.!
Goodwell Lungu gets paid for barking at GRZ.His masters, the homosexual imperialists were infuriated at RB’s stance on their perverted sexual orientation.TIZ is under pressure to deliver zambia to the peverts hence the relentless barking of Lungu and other sycophant NGOs.
PVT ili che. If big nose Shikapwasha doesn’t like it thats tough, but it will surely take place. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, unless you want to rig.
VJ Rigger: What do you say about Lifwekelo, Chifire, Kawana,Mumbi, Kalonde etc?They are getting paid by MMD for doing what…?
Lungu if you have nothing to do just go and count your chikens in your backyard
Lungu must be a very dull chap. he want to bring confusion mu zed
Ba MMD babagwila u fwiti with this PVT. they cant even slip now.
This PVT will take back my Rupia to the Village. Anyway, he is a failure he deserve to be in the farm parting.
Its like u are watching the champions league final and one team scores and the refs has acknowledged the goal then a fan in the stands says its offside and expetc the refs to reverse the decision. that can cause violence. pvt is out of zed constitution
#6 VJ Rigger, you are now joining the band waggon of dissilutioned muppets.Is that an argument you can put up to dispute the PVT?? i was impressed you fellow MMD die hard BOOT LICKER, much as i think he is a lunatic, he put up a sobber argument against the PVT.We all know that we live in a pemmissive society,but such trash is very void.Beside, if your MMD are popular as you always purport,there is no need to panic.It is now conspicuous that you really rig elections.Alas, people have now become wiser which will make it practically impossible to rig.
may be a parallel parliament to make parallel laws shud be the nxt move
@BADWILL LUNGU,that is the most u.s.e less thinking have ever come across in my life,sorry i never knew that there are people who think like that.How can you compare football to an election?otherwise you will just confuse yourself.Going by the example you have given ,i gather that you watch football,now let me ask you a question ,do you remember when juventus won the serie A in 2006,what happened after they discovered that they were involved in some match fixing?they stripped them off their title-which is a reverse decision.Do you remember when micheal essien gave haman of liverpool a career ending tackle?he(essien) played for 90 min,but when the F.A looked at the tackle they had to burn him for 3 games.Therefore,brother,the two things dont just tally.Think twice before you blogg.
It is strange that the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ), who should be a fountain of the Law and wisdom have deliberately decided to maintain a defeaning silence on this matter.
This association should be in a position to advise the laymen and women of their rights and guide when the country faces a contetious issue like the PVT, which is creating a rift in our community.
Or should we simply take it the LAZ has gone to the muppets or the d….ogs.
Pvt has always been there anyway except it was not properly organised in Zambia and did not cover far rural areas and thats where mmd would delay and do the catch up additions. Pvt is huge in the USA and was conducted by the CNN which they called exit polls which meant interviewing voters after casting to review their choice and this worked well. CNN was able to call results with about 95% accuracy just when polls close. Even shikapwasha relied on the CNN predictions to jumped For Obama victory. We don’t want delays this time and want rural results known at the same time as urban results.
If the idea to implement PVT is shot down by goverment, it will provide enough grounds to initiate the Arab style revolt. We will pour on the street and demand among other things: the immediate resignation of the current government, dissolution of ECZ commissioners and management as well as deferring general elections. Watch this space, this government is playing with fire. They dont own anybody. The country of Zambia belongs to the Zambians who are entitle to guard their vote. Mass protests will definitely be called. I will soon launch a Facebook Account to mobilise these activities.
It is sad that some people some deluding political psche thinks pvt is another ecz.. For your info it is just a systems for providing checks and balances for votes and not what u think
RAT RACE , Thank God there are people who are still sane out there! Tell them my bro!
VJ Rigger whats wrong with you? Everything you say, reeks of rigging and zelch!
Is this a way for these NGOs to solicit for more donor funds. Can someone please educate me on whether that controversial NGO bill passed. One which caused many NGOs to into a frenzy.
It is not necessarily PVT I am against. It is the method that is being proposed and the people carrying it out. SACCORD, TIZ, AVAP are not impartial. They have an agenda and can therefore use this to falsify a legitimate election. This could then cause havoc in the nation like happened in Ivory Coast and Kenya.
The ECZ is the only constitutional body that can announce election results. SACCORD is stating that they’ll announce results before ECZ. This will cause a lot of havoc if the figures ECZ and SACCORD announce. This is a recipe for disaster.
#10 ulichipumbu …imbwa….how can a system of addind figures coz confusion. u have even head that mmd used the same method in 2008….how do u think…its not funny u ar people who needs to be sorted out
TIZ and Mr Lungu good job please go ahead we are 100% behind you!
Wont be long before Vj riger and capitalist go under like lady gaga and senior citizen.
#18 Fidel. Thanks for that refreshing contribution. PVT is harmless monitoring tool widely used. Shikapwasha needs to catch a chill pill.
Gentlemen and ladies there is a lot of cash in an election year from donors all you need is ideas this is one of the good ones!
Gentlemen and ladies there is a lot of cash in an election year from donors all you need is ideas this is one of the good ones!
Gentlemen and ladies there is a lot of cash in an election year from donors all you need is ideas this is one of the good ones!
By the way can some one up date me Lone Mwanawasa has gone quiet has she been give the cash?
In the developed free world, some institutions conduct polls every now and then to gauge the popularity of political parties. These also conduct exit polls on polling day again to have an idea of who is likely to win BUT these results are NEVER NEVER NEVER officially recognised to the extent of over turning the official pollster. So why do these ‘brainwashed, dollar earning Zambians’ who think that butter cannot melt in ‘their donors’ mouths and the sun shines through the back passages of their paymasters, think that this is a good idea for Zambia? There are many Zambians in the opposition who were once in government can any ONE of them tell us how elections are rigged?
TIZ ..look for other avenues of making money. We know your TRUE interests are not for electoral transparency but to line your pockets with donor dollars…
So inform your girlfriends that the promised BIMA just has to wait ..AGAIN!!
So you (TIZ) are not aware that MMD are up to no good. There closets are so full of skeletons that it would be suicide for them to surrender power.
#23 The havoc you are incititing people for can not occur. Why are figures going to differ?
#23 Mr. Capitalist, you are right SACCORD, TIZ, AVAP have agendas, just like Lifwefwefwe, Chifire, Kawana,Mumbi, Kalonde etc! I think what matters is the objective…. What does each of these NGOs and individuals hope to achieve? Is it honorable or not? Etc etc!
This is the way forward. Only desprate people will stand against this great idea. We need a paralle vote count come 2011 election. People have lost confidence in ECZ
TIZ, SACCORD AND OTHER WELL MEANING ZAMBIANS SHOULD NOT GIVE IN ON THIS ISSUE OF PVT…….I CAN SEE THAT SOMEBODY IS WORRIED THAT THEIR RIGGING MACHINE HAS BEEN EXPOSED……NOBODY SHOULD THREATEN US ON PVT………GO, GO, GO PF GO,GO, PTV…..THIS IS 2011 WITH A DIFFERENCE……NO MORE DRIBBLING…..OUR EYES ARE OPEN…..NO MORE STEALING OF VOTES……NI DON’T KUBEBA MAYO!!!!!!!!
Why can’t the ECZ officials endorse on the results from SACCORD at each polling station before SACCORD release them to the public. Lets not rush to accuse them of other things,it is for a good cause.Only people trying to hide something will oppose. If PVT did not work in other countries, we need to iron out the problems now as it is a brilliant idea. I see no reason why MMD should oppose the idea as it claims to be democratic.
It’s worth noting that as the law stands, PVT will not be legal if carried out by NGOs. The motive of this agitation is also questionable. Now that the American mission has said it will support the NGOs advocating for PVT, it’s clear these NGOs are now motivated by money for themselves. We all know the scandal of finance in some NGOs. It’s far from serving the people but their own pockets. We also know that Lybia, Egypt and Tunisia were good mates with America until the people revolted. So dont take everything from America without assessing the effects and legality in Zambia. Let Zambia stand for itself and not be manipulated by people who have double standards. Ask the Americans why they didnt take democracy and PVT to Lybia, Egypt and Tunisia.
PVT can only work out well if it is done by impartial bodies, but bodies such as SACCORD, TIZ, AVAP & CARITUS are all pro PF just as the POST. Their motto is regime change at whatever cost.
These so called CSOs namely SACCORD, TIZ, AVAP have lost all credibility to speak on these matters. They are known to be anti- government even during Levy’s era, for reasons best known to themselves (some say bread & butter). Some of them tried Oasis II which failed miserably to mobilise public sympathy. Given that (i) they have no public support, (ii) they are not elected or appointed by us the public (or anybody else that we know for that matter, Lee etc), and (iii) historically they are known to be partial, what gives them the credibility to run PVT? Even if the results that they want to tabulate are official at the local polling stations, what can stop them from fidgeting with the tallies to favour candidates in short to “rig” the elections as they allege others will?
Pressure groups should remain just that, pressure groups. They do not have our mandate to do anything except monitor elections. As a civilised society, we have appointed people and institutions to conduct electoral affairs on our behalf. Just recently, the appointment of Justice Mambilima as ECZ Chairperson was overwhelmingly supported across the political spectrum. Officials and staff at ECZ are Zambian citizens employed by ourselves from across the political spectrum, although they are not allowed to state their preferences publicly. If PF and otehrs claim the popularity that they have, it follows that even in ECZ the majority of employees must be PF. So how can this “rigging” occur? Why do people like arguing all the time, and 99.9% of the time over nothing really?
Coming to the 50%+1, just yesterday yet another political party was launched which adds to the difficulties of any one candidate getting the so called majority formula, and increases the chances of a costly re-run under that silly formula. Should poverty stricken Zambia be spending its precious little money funding the whims of those who dream to rule us if they are too selfish to Pact with others? If Mr Storella really wants to help us, why doesn’t America instead channel its “wealth” teach our selfish politicians how America manages to minimise the number of presidential candidates? In my opinion, that would be more productive than supporting the mischief of our CSOs whose lust a comfortable American may not be able to understand.
Ba fi colour against pvt you are dogs without reasoning