5th September, 2016
Mr. Edgar Lungu
President-elect
Lusaka
Dear President Lungu, I write this letter to you as a predictive statement. My intention is to persuade you to do whatever you can to change the expected end of the path you have chosen. As of today, you still have the ability to do the right thing which shall preserve your legacy. I am grateful for those who are making effort to appeal to your conscience to do the right thing. The bible says “In a multitude of counsel, there is safety.”
Several years ago, I wrote a similar letter to late President Mwanawasa when the nation’s democracy and adherence to Christian values were threatened. Later, I wrote a similar letter to late President Michael Sata, when it became clear that democracy and Christian values were again threatened under his leadership. In both the letters, I predicted what the end of such a path would look like. When I look back today, I am amazed at how my predictions were fulfilled in both presidencies.
Today, I sense the same spirit of urgency to write this note to you, and pray that you review its contents and decide how you use the information.
The country stands at a crossroads needing a moral and firm leadership to steer the nation on a path to genuine love, unity, and respect for the rule of law.
GOVERNANCE AND CONSTITUTIONALISM
On January 5th 2016, a new amended constitution was enacted under your signature. In that document you activated several electoral rules, including the birth of a Constitutional Court. You further appointed all the Judges of that court. The current constitutional status is therefore your creation. It must be noted that before signing the amended Constitution you made an alarming statement that you were going to sign this important document ‘with your eyes closed.’ Many voices expressed concern as they felt that the contents of the Constitution were too important to approach so casually. Perhaps what we are witnessing today is as a result of carrying out your threat.
It is against this background that we urge you to honor and respect your own creation. Arising from the just ended election, the ECZ gave you more votes than Hakainde Hichilema and declared you winner. Based on many irregularities in the vote counting, Hakainde Hichilema petitioned your election on Friday 19th August 2016. According to the constitution you signed, two cardinal things were supposed to happen automatically:
- Suspend the inauguration of the president elect. 105(2)(a)
- The Speaker of the National Assembly was to take over Executive Powers. 104(3)
We congratulate you for obeying the first regulation of not being inaugurated. We however are deeply disappointed that you have refused to step down from your position to give way to the speaker to act as President.
Mr. President, you cannot pick and choose what you wish to respect from the Constitution.
Respecting one part of the law and disrespecting the other half is like religiously keeping five of the Ten Commandments and reject the other five. According to scriptures, you have then broken all ten. Mr. President you are in serious breach of the constitution. The spirit in which the constitution was couched was to ensure that both the petitioned and the petitioner were on a level playing field and not have a situation where one had undue privilege and advantage over the other through having executive powers and security wings at his disposal while the case was being adjudicated. I am familiar with this intention along with many other constitutional commissioners who participated in the drafting of this constitution. The concept of the first draft was discussed in my office in 2003 when I served as Vice-President with the late Justice Minister George Kunda. The late President Mwanawasa assigned me to work with Mr. Kunda to prepare the parameters of the proposed Constitutional Commission. The intention for requiring the President to step aside was widely debated at length and many strong reasons advanced. Similarly, the fourteen day period within which to hear the petition was only a straight jacket provision in as far as when the hearing must start. Justice cannot be truncated in order to satisfy a technicality.
It is more honorable for you to obey the constitution you yourself brought into force rather than have a court ask you to step aside. The unfortunate physical removal of former President Laurent Gbagbo of Ivory Coast has left a shameful blight on Africa. If you truly won this election, you have no need to fear as the court will vindicate you. Your continued stay in office is eroding public confidence in you. Options exist for you to relocate to some other place such as State Lodge while this process is concluded.
Furthermore, the nation is appalled and alarmed by the conduct of some of your party officials who believe that all institutions of government must always favor the party in government. The continued threats against the Constitutional Court judges by your party may forever undermine the authority and integrity of our court system as it is setting an extremely dangerous and irresponsible precedence. The alleged ferrying of busloads of PF cadres and some by ZAF choppers to camp at the Constitutional Court grounds is most disturbing as is the alleged reporting of the ConCourt judges to Woodlands police.
You more than anyone, as a learned Lawyer, should understand the serious implication of these actions which only complicate your situation further and must be stopped. ConCourt lawyers enjoy immunity and must not be interfered with and I make an earnest appeal to you to step in immediately and direct your party members not to interfere in any way with the independence of the courts. They are a separate and independent wing of government. They have a job to do just like the Executive and Legislature have jobs to do as well. Any continued assault on judges by your cadres will be considered provocative in this hostile political environment.
MEDIA AND FREEDOMS
Our national history confirms that all past presidents since independence have abused both the public print and electronic media by using them as exclusive propaganda machines for the party in government. This is retrogressive and the habit has retarded the growth of our democratic culture. Sadly, your presidency has taken this abuse to a higher level. PF is not only abusing the public media, but you have gone further to kill the voice of any opposition by closing down independent media. This has left your opponents with no avenue to express themselves and no means to inform their members nationwide. By this act, you have manufactured a highly dangerous grenade which is bound to be detonated any time soon as fissures of anger will soon seek to find a vent for relief. I advise that you bring back the media freedoms and allow the private media to operate freely alongside the compromised public media as has been the case since 1991.
CHURCH and STATE HOUSE
Mr. President, I commend you for opening your arms to a number of pastors who have now become a permanent feature at State House. I however wish to remind you that this is not the first time pastors have enjoyed feasts and prayers at State House. A Pastor is only useful in God’s hand if he has capacity to encourage a leader and at the same time rebuke him. A pastor must not depend on a President for economic survival. A Pastor must be sober but aggressive against sin and injustice.
In 2001, when the late President Fredrick Chiluba attempted to secure a third term of office the three church mother bodies under the Oasis forum condemned the move. I was part of the Evangelical Fellowship of Zambia at this time. Unfortunately the ‘famous’ 22 Pentecostal pastors from Copperbelt travelled to Lusaka to ‘prophesy’ to President Chiluba that it was God’s will for him to go for a third term of office. Mr. President, you are aware what the result of that third term attempt was. It is sad to further note that when President Chiluba died with very few friends around him, most of the twenty two pastors who misled him did not even attend his funeral. I must confess that a good number of the Pastors frequenting State House now are products of Victory Bible college, some were ordained in our ministry while others received Christ or were inspired into the church ministry through our Zambia shall be Saved television broadcast. Some of them are part of the same group which chose to mislead the late President Chiluba. I wish to respectfully warn you as I had warned the late President Chiluba. Seek counsel from your church and your pastor or priest which must agree with your spirit because wrong counsel will damage your legacy.
Mr. President, the current path you have chosen of disobeying the constitution, stifling the freedoms of the media, and surrounding yourself with ‘praise singer’ pastors will soon disarm you of your hard earned respect. My fear is that on the path you have taken, the Presidency will injure you more than it has honored you.
Nevers Sekwila Mumba
MMD President
Very boring … You have lost your way Man of God!!!
A monologue of drivel from a raging and disillusioned soul.
A man excersing his freedom of expression has lost his way just because he is not supporting the actions of your fellow tribesmen. You are a pathetic little boy iwe ka mumba. Grow up and be objective. You and senior citizen have outlived your usefulness here. Gerrrrout of here
Mumba was never the sharpest knife in the drawer at school. I’m surprised that he still shows that he can’t think even at an age where he’s supposed to show that he is now a wise man.
And may I add I still love you but you have really lost your way. More and more you keep losing sight imperatives. You keep siding with the losing team and God is not an author of confusion ~ scripture says. What you are advocating is completely unconstitional!
For instance Article 104(3) does not apply to a sitting president seeking re-election because he/she is still the repertoire of the Articles of Power until they are handed to an incoming president. So, stop referring to it because you are quoting a wrong clause.
Secondly, the vitriol with which you address the President makes some of wonder whether you still have the fruit of the spirit resident in you. You seem to forget that Paul admonished Timothy to pray for those in leadership.
When was the last time you prayed for…
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When was the last time you prayed for ECL? God wants us to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, when was the last time you really spent time praying for Zambia? Please seek God, the devil quoted scripture to the Lord after 40 days of praying and fasting so, your quotes here don’t mean anything because most of us believe a one time Man of God has been taken over by the evil spirit.
The Lord Jesus told Peter that Satan had requested for his soul but the Lord had prayed to the Father … One wonders whether Satan requested for your soul and no one interceded for you. As a former supporter of your ministry I feel sorry for how far you have fallen, Man of God.
I still remember Frank Mutubila asking you if you ever had political aspirations and you answered in the negative…
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I still remember Frank Mutubila asking you if you ever had political aspirations in the 80’s and you answered in the negative specifically mentioning that doing so would be a demotion. Do you remember that? Well, it turns out that is now a self-fulfilled prophecy.
Now, let me get back to your letter to the President … It is completely flawed and I can advise the President to completely ignore it for the following reasons:
1. It is written in bad faith
2. It is written with a straw man’s fallacy
3. It is written with a complete bias purporting that ECL did not win the election
4. It is written without a complete understanding of facts ~ very emotionally inclined
Finally, it is a very shallow document that is monolithic nature and yet issue under review are…
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Finally, it is a very shallow document that is monolithic in nature and yet issue under review are more complex in nature and require a full understanding of all variable before conclusions are arrived at. These days you sound so bitter.
I want my Nevers back and why should the President listen to you when you have a record of failure when it comes to public policy? You started the Christian Coalition, it failed and merged it into the MMD. You were appointed VP by LPM and you failed miserably and was fired within 18 months.
RB appointed you High Commissioner to Canada, all we have are scandals at the High Commission in Otawa and misappropriation of funds. You took over the MMD and within 5 years of your leadership, you have lost nearly all the MPs the MMD had … The…
Thank you Dr Nevers Mumba for that spirit of David against Goliath. Every single word you have uttered is 100% accurate. This, too, shall be fulfilled!!
Continued…. The list is endless!!
Everything you touch in public policy goes south, every team you align yourself with ends up being the losing team. Why on God’s earth would anyone listen to you, let alone the President? Please save yourself … You only have one thing left to your name ~ your legacy!!
Start working on that because anything else does not matter. Are you going to be remember as someone who could have been? It is never too late … Filekeni ifi ma politics ba mashina!! Tafya mikonka bakalamba. Bwelelenifye Kuli Shikulu. Ifi filemisebanyafye kanabesa mulopwe!
What is even more painful is that, you still have it … But like Saul, the glory has departed and you know it not!! I am sorry to use this forum to rebuke you big bro but you have left me no other…
Quote: “Arising from the just ended election, the ECZ gave you more votes than Hakainde Hichilema and declared you winner”
Just this statement EXPOSES Nevers’ DISRESPECT for millions of Voters who stood in long lines to cast their ballot. By saying “ECZ gave [President Lungu] more votes,” Nevers is essentially accusing ECZ of MANUFACTURING VOTES out of thin air which they then gave to Lungu/Inonge. That is some bizarre accusation coming from someone who wants to lecture others on CHRISTIAN VALUES.
This is the problem when you BLINDLY INVEST YOUR SOUL into politics. You are bound to go BONKERS if the investment go down the tubes. It looks like what Nevers really needs right now is some serious Psychiatric help. He just can’t bring himself to terms with the fact that the person…
Dr Mumba, rigging is what UPND did in Southern Province by registering children as young as 9 years old to vote for HH. Rigging is what UPND did in Southern province when cadres were escorting voters in voting booths to ensure that they voted for HH. I am surprised that you’ve turned a blind eye towards the ethnic cleansing that took place in Southern province man of God. The president should just declare a state of emergency to stop this illegality by the Concourt.
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… he belittled with disdain during the campaigns actually won—get over it Nevers!
Continued…. I am sorry to use this forum to rebuke you big bro but you have left me no other alternative and I hope you take my advice despite being so blant with you ~ what happened to the Nevers Mumba I knew? The Nevers Mumba I used to send monthly checks as a covenant partner at Victory Ministry?
What happened to the Nevers Mumba I knew that was full of grace and whenever he opened his mouth nothing but wisdom came out of it? What happened to the Nevers Mumba I always wanted to hang around whenever he was in Dallas?
What happened to the Nevers Mumba I proud showed my son on television and yes to advise my son, he is another Mumba … Mumbas are brilliant people!!! I lost that Nevers and how great my loss has been, so help me God!!!
God bless … I still love you though
@B R Mumba
You are as useless as your stupid!ty can take you. It pains you to hear the truth? Watach this space!
@St. Jude … Saints use divine language with intonations full of grace. I am having the best days of my life and there is no pain here. What truth are you referring to, may I ask? You sound bitter, do you need some cash?
Nevers Sekwila Mumba is suggesting that Mwanawasa and Sata died because they did not listen to him. Nevers is really full of himself. Its a good thing that he stopped preaching so that people can know what kind of person he really is.
Shame of You Nevers
whose boring between mumba and bwalya…..?
What good can come out of this man of golds head? Pastor Mumbwe`s love for money has corrupted his morals
On the contrary sir, Dr Mumba has expressed himself very eloquently and articulated all issues in a very rational and clear manner. B R Mumba Sr, you appear to be a decent grown up man, what a shame that your shallow mind and big mouth lets you down.
…former man of God!
WHOOPS! A MOUTH FULL FROM THE FORMER PASTOR BUT HOLLOW AND EMPTY.
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Next time try to summarise your composition else you earn a 0.
Important but misguided points there. That said, realise that you are sounding extremely bitter and seem to be serving the interest of your boss HH. We the majority Zambians spoke through the ballot and you are abusing court processes. Ba Mumba just go through the Constitution and read it carefully else let the Judges handle the correct interpretation of the law and the clause in question. You are disappointed because the turn of events doesn’t seem to favour the excited NSM when you just filed in a petition. Calm and tone down a little bit. Zambia is intact under ECL.
WHOOPS! A MOUTH-FULL FROM THE FORMER PASTOR BUT HOLLOW AND EMPTY.
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Next time try to summarise your composition else you earn a 0.
Important but misguided points there. That said, realise that you are sounding extremely bitter and seem to be serving the interest of your boss HH. We the majority Zambians spoke through the ballot and you are abusing court processes. Ba Mumba just go through the Constitution and read it carefully else let the Judges handle the correct interpretation of the law and the clause in question. You are disappointed because the turn of events doesn’t seem to favour the excited NSM when you just filed in a petition. Calm and tone down a little bit. Zambia is intact under ECL.
Ba B R Mumba Sr., twatotela sana. Cine cine, batila: ‘ku cibolya takubula mukaya’. Very wise counsel there from you to the (former) man of God. Point 1.6 nayumfwikisha sana; I have actually read every single word and point of your passage, just as I read every single word in his (Nevers Mumba’s) letter. Ba Nevers bakalufya abengi (abashicenjele). For sure uwabufi talengula fita!Tekuti tubacetekele iyoo. #lastkicksofadyinghorse
Please take the ball pen from this fo0l!
Nevers is talking as an injured, bitter and enticing enemy with a well calculated evil intention, not as a concerned friend or citizen.
Nevers is bitter, and how letter is no different from General Miyanda’s letter which was equally ill conceived, I am free to say this because I did engage him through this same platform – those who wish to confirm this can review the thread Gen. Miyanda wrote.
Nevers’ letter is worse, he starts by trying to scare the president to try and procure to some fear in the head of state then try and manipulate him into believing what he wants done.
The Bible has described the manipulative spirit Dr Mumba has used to try and lure HE ECL into his suggestions. I don’t need mention because Nevers knows it.
I equally have advice for Dr Mumba, seek…
I equally have advice for Dr Mumba, seek prayer, seek God, remember where you once were – your are no longer there. If this is not true, then I and the many concerned Zambians are lost.
Dr. Nevers should not mislead himself and those around him.
I have warned before that for those that are not careful emotions can be more influential than logic. Thus, beware of Mushipe and her brother Mwiimbu.
The constitution is very clear:
101(5) The ConCourt shall hear an election petition filed in accordance with (4) within fourteen days of the filing in of the petition.
This does not in any way imply Sha commence hearing. Now, let us assume that the that Mumba was correct that it implied commencement if hearing.
That means that the incumbent would remain incumbent even for a period up to 5 years as long as the matter is not rssolved, as there would be no time ceiling to the conclusion.
That means if the initial draft was preserved and ministers were chosen from…
You are a useless witch Nevers. You have admitted to bewitching 2 late presidents. You want to bewitch President Lungu also?
You people are funny anything that goes the upnd way its wrong but anything going pf’s way is ok…. sit down analyze yourself and the situation at hand…seems like you are bitter for nothing just let the truth come to light cause we cant continue to live without knowing what had happened… Viva UPND and shame on you who are bitter for nothing.. some of you are just blood suckers.. sucking from the government thats why you are supporting pf
It’s another day of insults upon insults from the so called Mr Kudos. I know that your whole livelihood and survival depends on ECL being in power to throw scraps under the table for your survival! How sad can life be? How low can a human being get? You my friend, you are indeed a living dead person without an iota of a brain just like your skeleton icon. You insult because you feel that you are hurting the intended person bus I can tell you that you are destroying yourself and your soul. Edgar is human being like you and me, he is not a God. He may not even choose to continue paying you once he is inaugurated. What if God rules against him, what would you do with your life? Find another master? Nangu mukayikulika? Bola pashi bane, mwatukana pafula. You very clearly outshine and shame…
Noted.
Nevers Mumba, firstly you are not MMD president secondly you have fallen from Grace just the same way Lucifer fell from Heaven, you thought politics was better thatn God now you see what you are doing?
Swallow your pride and get back to God he is merciful to cleanse you and welcome you back my dear!
You are wasting time by what you are doing my dear come to Jesus while there is still time
you are a stupid backsliden man of God…renew your relationship with God or else i don’t know……
a bitter nevers mumba…………..
Mumba you are a leech, a parasite that should go away. Cant wait for the inauguration so you can crawl back under the rock. You are un irrelevant bloodsucker that has failed at everything. Get a real job and stop leaving off others through church offerings and government allowances. How do you live with yourself?
N Mumba you are a leech, a parasite that should go away. Cant wait for the inauguration so you can crawl back under the rock. You are un irrelevant bloodsucker that has failed at everything. Get a real job and stop leaving off others through church offerings and government allowances. How do you live with yourself?
Mumba has acknowledged the president elect Chagwa Lungu…
Mr Mumba you are a leech, a parasite that should go away. Cant wait for the inauguration so you can crawl back under the rock. You are un irrelevant bloodsucker that has failed at everything. Get a real job and stop leaving off others through church offerings and government allowances. How do you live with yourself?
Pastor lost
Get yourself an iPhone old man.
There is a lot of sense in that letter. One can tell that mumba is hanging around with the wise and intelligent upnd members. If that letter doesn’t move lungu then lungu is just a stiff necked mam whose day of reckoning will come. We thank you never. God bless
“AMONG THE BLIND, A ONE-EYED MAN IS KING!” Ever heard of this saying @Nez…?
The problem is that the new constitution requires one to understand English. It says and I quote
“A person may within seven days of the declaration made
under clause (2), petition the Constitutional Court to nullify the
election of a presidential candidate who took part in the initial ballot”
HH just petitioned the court to nullify the election, the question is – DID THE COURT NULLIFY? If YES, that was the only time President Lungu would step aside.
If Mumba new in what low esteem Zambians have come to perceive him, he would not even bother writing these articles let alone issuing statements on behalf of anyone such as HH. He is a liability to whoever he purports to represent. There is not a single cause that he seems to have taken over they yet abandoned or hounded out due to non-performance or poor leadership. In my view he has failed as a politician at least a…as a high profile one and should consider alternative occupations.
Late president this, late president that…sounds like a thinly veiled threat, a man of God is not supposed to talk like that. You are possessed with the devil Nevers.
Pastor Nevers, did you spare some time to listen to Elias Chipimo on vacation of office of president? Please leave legal matters to objective lawyers and spare us your emotional rants. If you didn’t realize it, your political desperation has only worked to erode your credibility as an influential man of from the ‘Zambia Shall be Saved’ fame! And in fulfillment of your own word on national TV, your decision to go into politics was an embrace of demotion. Oh how the great has fallen!
Mr mumba is a misplaced man either in politics or in the church.seek a wise counsel from mr chipimo.he said very well yesterday that the president elect can only step down when the concourt nullify the seat and then the speaker can take over.don’t mislead the people.am just a concerned citizen.
I don’t like pastors these days. But one who calls a spade,a spade is my kind of guy. Third term was easier, there wasn’t tribal talk. This time ba lungu should start asking the tribes of his body guards otherwise he will be shocked at what hit him.
If you make such NAKED THREATS against others, especially a sitting Republican President, don’t be SHOCKED what hit you!
Remember, such THREATS of VIOLENCE, especially against Presidents, are NOT PROTECTED SPEECH even where you are hiding in the USA. The Internet isn’t as ANONYMOUS as you want to believe. Be warned!
He is interpreting the constitution like the bible. Thats the reason we have so many churches due to differences in interpretation of scripture. Article 101, 103 and 104 are different and thats why these selfish guys are confused.
Your Bitterness pastor mumba is now tempting to kill president elect. Because you want him without security so anything can happen to him when you 100% know he’s a winner. Ask Miles Sampa he has since congratulated Lungu, in case you were sleeping.
Nevers Mumba is always asleep. Only to wake up and find out that everybody has deserted him!
The useless man smells his chances in the air again. Next time try to write the same letter to yourself! why do we even entertain this hypocritical buffoon. Nevers is going down in history as Zambia’s most useless politician.
I find it extremely disingenuous and wildly insane for Mr. Mumba to continue fighting Mr. Lungu in a petition he is not even part of. Candidly, for the most part, Mr. Mumba has spent most of his adult life riding on other people’s achievements. If he is truly a political heavyweight he professes to be, why has he kept on faltering on all ends? His attempt at the presidency has been a disaster going by the votes he got on the two attempts. His insatiable appetite for power saw him being given a boot by Levy. Let me simply say: all he has attempted to do has ungracefully failed….CHILL BIG BRO!
Poverty turns people into vuvuzelas. Paster what does the law say, please follow the law, or ask elias chipimo jnr to explain it to you. We know under five and the cartel are paying for your upkeep fake preacher
So this foolish man is saying he told mwanawasa that he would die? he also told sata that he would die? So now he is telling lungu that he will die? Back to sender!
what is the right thing?
To my brothers and sisters from the the southern, western and north western province. As a northerner I am so sorry for the insults that are being put on you. I know it is not easy but please ignore our insults and let us find ways to work and unite our nation. We have a lot together than our tribes that is dividing us. Let us look to God than to politicians to unite and build our great nation.
Currently, I am so ashamed to be a zambian because of the divides the politicians have coursed. I have lived in the UK for ten years and I have refused to be British because I am a proud Zambia based on one Zambia one nation and the Christian values. But what is happening in my land is so sad that I have no option but to become British so that I don’t identify myself of being a zambian, Bemba…
Pastor Mumba is a fallen Lucifer and all he can do is to steal and destroy through deception.
Let Mumba realise that he is very irrelevant to our politics.
Back to sender in the Mighty Name of Jesus!
Advice well given….learn from your enemies and from your cousel…wisdom lays on both side….. sad about insults from bloggers though
Mr Mumba am sorry my of God but you have lost your touch you been in politicians was your worst move you made so my word from me to you sir is plz go back to church you are meant to make leaders not you to become a leader. Before your time is up make your things in order with your God…
Read between the lines : Nevers is slowly acknowledging that Edgar is the President. The next letter simply congratulate HE E. C. Lungu on his election ..mark my words Mumba is always looking for the buttered side of the bread
Ba Nevers even if it’s trying to be relevant mulibu cadre bwamu upnd tefyo!meanwhile Umuntu Ni Lungu chapwa,Viva Mighty Patriotic Front
MMD PRESIDENT??
CLEARLY YOU HAVE YOU OWN PROBLEMS TO DEAL WITH
LETTERS SHOULDN’T BE THIS LONG ESPECIALLY TO SOMEONE
WHO HAS SO MUCH PRESSURE.
BY THE WAY, HAS ANYONE WRITTEN THE OTHER GUYS??
Paster
Lungu can never survive without abusing GRZ funds and insitutions……if he is so popular as the PF kaponyas say , why has he refused to vacate the presidency as per consitution ?
Do authors of articles like the one written by Dr S Mumba take time to read reactions from the people? Reading through the reactions gives you an impression that Dr Mumba has lost it all. If by any chance someone meets the aurthor (Dr. Mumba) please give him these reactions so it can also help him reflect on what people think about him. It makes sad reading to see a man who was held in high esteem been scorned and ridiculed in this manner. Its heart breaking. May the good Lord grant grace to Dr Mumba to withdraw/rerteat from public life and seek counsel of God if he truly he needs to continue this path.
Nevers Mumba has sinned against his church and the party. He has lost direction in both political and spiritual fronts. He lacks personal morals and integrity, no wonder he lost his presidency to Mutati! He kept on refering to the book of Habakuku while his friends in the party (MMD) were in the NEW TESTAMENT. Zambia shall be saved.
It is clear that Mumba and his cohort do not understand requirements during legal procedures. It is not allowed for associated members of an applicant to intimidate the respondents on behalf of the applicant. By what authority did you conceive and carry out this media statement. Both you and HH have taken to social media discussing the case publicly. No respect for authority, you are using this case to cause confusion.
We’ll done BR Mumba, your contribution us spot on and informative.
It is noted no PF parties have taken to this style of conduct. They have behaved immaculately. I believe the court should note the behaviour and sanction UPND. A court case must take place in an environment where justice can take place. The constant comments to citizens by UPND is creating a biased public perception. This is grounds for the Concourt to throw the case out, because public opinion must be made from the Law after it passes judgement.
WHY DONT YOU JOIN IN AS A FRIEND TO CONCOURT.ITS SEEMS YOU ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN THIS WORLD WHO OBEYS GOD
that’s true well written…God bless you Dr Mumba.
So Nevers you are a witch in short. God will not spare His rod on you.
Mr. Mumba God loves you and still needs you behind the pulpit. WHich is why the MINISTRY OF RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED SO THAT YOU CAN RUN IT. MR.NEVERS MUMBA AS MINISTER OF RELIGIOUS AFFAIRS.THIS SUITS YOU WELL SIR. So please just get back on your knees ask forgiveness from God, he will surely forgive you and then he will ask Mr. Edgar Lungu to forgive you as well and give you the position. Follow Mr. Sampa, who now knows that leadership is ordained by God. Mr. Sampa has humbled himself. He can be forgiven and welcomed.
Why is he still calling himself MMD President? Ba Pastor find time to reflect on what your young brother B R Mumba has written here. Please seek the face of the Lord again, you make a very good preacher! Some people are just not meant to be politicians!
Pastor Mumba kindly go back to church and be prayed for, you have completely backslid en. wishing the sitting President ill is evil and can result to total curls in the country go to TB Joshua to be prayed for , or for fear of being exposed more, go even to Bishop Joe Imakando to pray for you. ask your wife she will tell you that you have lost 90% of yourself.good morning.
Quote, “I must confess that a good number of the Pastors frequenting State House now are products of Victory Bible college, some were ordained in our ministry while others received Christ or were inspired into the church ministry through our Zambia shall be Saved television broadcast. Some of them are part of the same group which chose to mislead the late President Chiluba”. Dr. Mumba can you also confess that actually these pastors learnt hypocrisy and crookedness from you as head of victory ministry at that time. This is good because today you’ve yourself confirmed what most of the people have been saying that you are a crooked and shameless double dealer.
Dear Nevers, recognising your loss of former magnanimity when the divine power of God led you each second minute and hour of the day and now your backslidden state, your letter creates in a rational reader signs of exasperation, awe, and calculated malice. Identifying an issue as you have is one thing. Deciding what to do about it is another.
We all know that the role of a Head of State in as far as law making is concerned is to assent to what Parliament has endorsed by way of careful reading and re reading, meditation and analysis at a personal level, group level (including political groups).
No matter where a constitutional provision originates (not from Edgar as you would lie to call him, it normally won’t get far without the backing of law makers. To blame a Head of State who has…
Dr. Mumba, you are somehow shallow in your thinking. I believe you should have predicted that your political career was going to be useless even before you embarked on forming the NCC fake NGO which you turned into a political party when Brigadier General Geoffrey Miyanda challenged you. If you could not discern such a simple thing, you are not eligible to comment on things that are beyond you constitutionally — leave this to experts. I was your passionate follower of ZAMBIA SHALL BE SAVED and Victory Ministries but your puffed up brain misled you and now you are worse than the prodigal son. God back to church. You are no longer the MMD president and please stop acting and masquerading as such. You are a disappointment dear Dr.
If you hate some one it does not means that when he advises you, you can not get his good advise unless you are stupid !
it does not mean !
Mr Mumba lost his soul when he abandoned his church for a bag of gold and silver coins. Wisdom is better than silver and gold. He is a born parasite.
Nevers Mumba is bitter because things are not going his way? He should forget about Lungu and concentrate on his political career. The language you are using on the head of state depicts bitterness and lack of the fear for God on your part. Nevers- you do not own the people of Zambia. You are useless to say the list.
Please Man of God go back to true worship in spirit n truth remember Eli when the ark of Covenant was removed from Israel.
i wish all the efforts NEVERS MUMBA has put in UPND was put to reorganise MMD am failing to understand this man how he does his politics?
As you have saluted that he is “president elect”, how dare you say he should have surrendered his seat for the speaker? You are just spreading your ignorance of the law to the entire world.
Dear Pastor,
Am shocked you still consider yourself worthy to give anybody advice! Am appalled at the people you associate with of late, there is a saying which says, ‘ if you want to know somebody, look at the friends he associates with’
Leave our beloved President alone! Find somebody else to quarrel with!
“CLOSED EYES” IN LEGAL SCIENCES
It is clear from Mumba’s letter that he is legally ignorant. In legal sciences, “closed eyes” is a fairly common concept. The paintings and sculptures of Lady Justice are depicted of her hold a sword and a scale/balance while “blindfolded” or atleast with “closed eyes”. There is a reason to why is blindfolded or has her eyes closed. Mumbai seems not to be aware of this reason and meaning yet served the Republic of Zambia as vice-president… 2nd highest in Command. Hmmm. Even secondary school kids have asked me to why she is blindfolded and understood the reason clear that I never repeated it…lol
I personally am failing to understand the source of this impoverished thinking that seems to suggest that newspapers, radio and television stations cannot do any wrong and are therefore untouchable!!!
Do people know what was the main driver of Rwandan genocide that saw over a million people butchered? Though there are claims that we don’t learn from history, let us not be irresponsible by allowing illegal and irresponsible media conduct. There is a reason why there are laws and no one is above the Law. Let us be genuine enough to stop playing to the gallery and trying to impress Western Masters. Remember we have American media practitioners currently on the run because they broke American laws, so let us not be foolish!!
Dr Mumba; what you need most is prayer that the Lord may restore you.
Who knows you could have been bewitched. How come you are so zealous for nothing, you have even stopped reasoning all what you want is your own ways. People have stopped you because what you are doing is wrong.
What you must know is that God works through people to do his will, either good or bad people.
It is God who appoints leaders and removes leaders. What has happened is a lesson to everyone; unless the Lord builds they all labour in vain.
Ba B R Mumba Sr., twatotela sana. Cine cine, batila: ‘ku cibolya takubula mukaya’. Very wise counsel there from you to the (former) man of God. Point 1.6 nayumfwikisha sana; I have actually read every single word and point of your passage, just as I read every single word in his (Nevers Mumba’s) letter. Ba Nevers bakalufya abengi (abashicenjele). For sure uwabufi talengula fita!Tekuti tubacetekele iyoo. #lastkicksofadyinghorse
Much has been said and what is remaining for Nevers Mumba is to ask for forgiveness to Lungu and the people who voted for ECL that his short sighted thinking has misled him and yielded nothing but frustration. Mumba is no longer a factor to HH and in actual sense has even forgotten about Nevers.
Ba emeritus please you are wasting your printer toner to write what you could have done before you retired from the ministry.We are all watching and helping the layers to understand the constitution as they appear to be getting stuck on some issues that are straight forward in the new constitution.
More than 20 years ago, l believed every thing that Nevers believed and stood for. A man of passion and strong convictions. Growing up in Kitwe and later answered the call of God and became a minister, l still emulated Dr. Nevers.
But am sorry Sir, you have lost the touch and relevance to this country. I know you would argue and defend your stand with such eloquence but you have are on the down hill. Until you decide to to clothe yourself with humility Sir, your name may be wiped out completely in the history of this nation.
Best wishes.
Dr. Phiri J
Just think of this out of 156 MPs PF MMD Independents equals 101 mps so how was HH going to govern?
man of God I would advise you to go back to the pulpit to serve the souls of the people in the world than insulting the head of state. Bible says that, we need to respect leaders and elders because they are watching over our lives .please leady the bible correctly thank you.
Mutati is very intelligent ….he saw where the winners wind was blowing!!
DR. MUMBA IS BACKSLIDDEN
These are clear marks of backsliding and I hope the man has not drowned into apostasy; as he may not easily be restored. He is failing to “obey them that have rule over you” a quotation he so much loved as Veep! The worst thing he has done is turn to witch hunting. Why start to send strange fire on ECL by reminding him of how he cursed former Presidents who later died. The Bible says ” whosoever diggeth a pit, shall fall in it”. I can see ECL with more years, and Dr. Mumba very few more. Us true members of UPND are picking up pieces and moving on. Sad for a Pastor to become false prophet!
Please people learn to criticize and comment sensibly. The constitution should be followed as all costs. Why should the person who personally signed the constitution at heroes stadium decide not to follow part of the constitution? Give the answer to this question…
I think he has is following the constitution. The problem is that the politicians are misleading us. What does the constitution say on the issue of petitioning? It says and I quote
“A person may within seven days of the declaration made
under clause (2), petition the Constitutional Court to nullify the
election of a presidential candidate who took part in the initial ballot”
HH just petitioned the court to nullify the election, the question is – DID THE COURT NULLIFY? If YES, that was the only time President Lungu would step aside.
Yes we needed to hear the final outcome of the petition but whatever happened was very unfortunate. It would have been better to go to the very last witness.
Mumba is much better than a drunkard pretending to be a christian. It’s sad that most christians in Zambia are damn, they fall for the hypocrite.
Mr Mumba you are the last person to lecture on morals .SHAME on you
Pastor Mumber you are spot on. Zambians ignore this letter at your peril. Edgar Lunga and PF have subotarged democracy in Zambia! Do you think the Police, Zambia Army and ZAF will be chola boys for ever? Muzadabwa ba mumbwe!
the role of a speaker ends when the house is disovled which speaker is the learned Mumba talking about?the new house will elect a new one,and that’s law boss
“Ichabod, the glory of the Lord has departed.”
I think ba Mumba you have missed the point in the New constitution. It says and I quote
“A person may within seven days of the declaration made
under clause (2), petition the Constitutional Court to nullify the
election of a presidential candidate who took part in the initial ballot”
HH just petitioned the court to nullify the election, the question is – DID THE COURT NULLIFY? If YES, that was the only time President Lungu would step aside.
Yes we needed to hear the final outcome of the petition
JESUS IS TENDERLY CALLING YOU HOME MAN OF GOD LEAVE THESE POLITICS AND SAVE THE LORD….LOOK AT THE MAIN SOULS WHO ARE PERISHING IN SINS TODAY AND YET YOU ARE BUSY PREACHING POLITICS WHAT ACCOUNT ARE GOING TO GIVE WHEN YOU LEAVE THIS EARTH.J