Opposition United Party for National Development, UPND, has disassociated itself from the Zambia Centre for Inter-Party Dialogue ZCID’s roadmap as published in the post newspaper of July 16, 2007.

UPND chairperson for information and publicity Charles Kakoma said the Zambia ZCID
committed the UPND to a programme and  roadmap without consulting the party
leadership.

Mr Kakoma said the UPND’s official position on the constitution reform process is
to support the adoption of the constitution through a Constitutional Conference
based on the understanding that the  Constitutional  Conference will function as
the Constituent Assembly.

He said the UPND does not  therefore agree with the ZCID’s position that the
Constitution Conference is different from the Constituent Assembly.

Mr Kakoma noted that there was no roadmap which was discussed and agreed  upon at
the summit of  political party presidents recently.

He said the only agreement reached during the party presidents summit was to the
effect that government presents a Constitutional Conference Bill to parliament .

The UPND spokesperson said the issues of the roadmap and contents of the draft
constitution were supposed to to be referred to various political parties for
scrutiny before the are  presented to  the second summit of party presidents.

Mr Kakoma further said UPND is opposed to piecemeal amendments of the constitution
as suggested in the ZCID roadmap.

This is contained in a statement  received by Zanis in Lusaka today

Mr Kakoma further said the UPND’s position is that the contents of the new
constitution should be agreed upon  and adopted by the Constitutional Conferenc, and
later be subjected to a National Referendum  before presentation to parliament for
enactment in total.

Mr Kakoma  said the party is opposed to the amendment of the constitution because
that is what has been done to the constitution reviews  since independence
resulting in the current constitution that is not acceptable to the majority of
Zambians in a  multi party democratic dispensation .

He  said the  Constitutional Conference Bill should be published  and distributed
to all stakeholders including ZCID, political parties  and Oasis Forum who should
agree on its content ,before it is presented to parliament.

Mr.Kakoma said the party does not agree with ZCID ‘s programmes of sensitising
people countrywide before the contents of the proposed Constitutional Conference
Bill are known and agreed upon.

He said his party is committed to an inclusive constitution making process that is
accepted to all stakeholders.

Mr Kakoma however assured that the UPND will continue to participate in the ZCID
activities current happenings nowithstanding.

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  1. Joze is a disgrace to all of us. Slowly he is killing the forum to the gutter level of trolling not befitting intellectuals.To him any disagreement is a point of insults. I find him to be mentally challenged and of limited capabilities to rebuttal issues using the brain power.

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  2. Mwanawasa was the chosen one according to FTJ. It therefore follows that he may have learnt a trick or two from the “master dribbler” himself FTJ.

    UPND shouldn’t be surprised. Some of us expected this to happen as the warning signs have been there from day one.

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  3. why do politicians think they are the ones running the affairs of zambia? I wish very soon no recycled politician could be allowed to tell lies to the pipo of zambia. When we look at the constitution issue, i find it to be an issue that is mainly in the interest of politicians fighting tooth and nail against each other for one bone. Akale pipo said we want multi-party democracy,.. and we thot it could be good for us. Now we are talkin of constitution…Is this going to benefit the masses in shangombo??? Actually fwe bena town tulaimona sana, may be I guess coz we pay alot of tax from our sweat. Who knows whatsup for tomorow?

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  4. Oh! It seems the fireworks just began, or is this the second salvo, the first having been PF. MMD/Govt are up to no good & we could see this coming.I wonder where this leaves Saki with his support for Katele & his reconciling with LPM, not that there is anything wrong with that, only that I seemed to have missed out on what exactly they were reconciling about, or is he about to sellout his party to MMD, possibly looking to becoming the next MMD candidate.

    MMD looked to hijacking this whole process from the start, looking to appear the good boys to the donors that are sponsoring ZCID. No wonder Chomba has left(am made to believe). MMD went on to paint a bad picture of the others, such as PF, saying they were only coming back to have a share of the donated computers – what cheek! LPM harking on about all else leaving it to the political parties as if it only involved parties. Looks like the beginning of the end of ZCID!

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  5. #6 Do you remember King cobra’s remark on Saki after the reconciliation with Levy? Saki has turned himself into an opportunist and politically he is finished.
    Wait and see what will become of him.Abena Saki are people we call in bemba ati ‘nibamutasha filikumasaya’,meaning these kind of people are only thankful when something nice happens to them.

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  6. I told my friends last week,that Sata mukulu te ti a puse akebo.How can a big party like our UPND join such a thing called ZCID. UPND you are a party in waiting forget about this ZCID for Kalumba and N’guni.For N’guni this a job ,because i know him very well a lipwa.No one can even vote for him. Get back and work with the people.

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  7. HaiVotele Heka has realized that his persistent secret solicitation to Levy is null and on the MMD game plan for 2011. I have alway known that the MMD machinery would never condone him to take over from Levy considering his immaturity, lack of exposure, tribal platform he came on and subservience to KK his endorser when he ordered all Zambians to leave the country if the don’t take the UPND membership.Infact, politician novice or otherwise supported by KK fails to realize his dream.So HaiVotele Heka is on his way to history before 2011.

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  8. Although, Sata is not my cup of tea, most of the times he say things that are real.The constitution making process shouldn’t be Politicians driven but to make the smooth running of the process.ZCID is being used by the MMD govt to hijack the constitution making process. My fellow countrymen and women how can ZCID go out in provinces and start sensetising pipo about constitution making process before stakeholders know the content of the CC bill? If levy, Kunda and ZCID want their constitution to suit their agenda, they are just waiting their time.Pipo want the formulation of a new constitution to be more inclusive, broadbased and that will encourage the participation of citizens in order to give the constitution making process legitimacy.We dont mind whether it is through CA, CC or any name as long as this body is going to represent various stakeholders.We want to be partners in governance. it is wealth fighting for as it is part of our life and our children

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  9. IG condemns unprofessional police officers

    July 16, 2007

    Inspector General of Police Ephraim Mateyo has condemned police officers who are alleged to have shared money recovered from an aggravated robbery.

    Mr Mateyo said an undisclosed amount of money was stolen during the same theft in
    which an Armcor driver was shot dead.

    Mr. Mateyo pointed out that he wished to reiterate his earlier message that he would
    not condone criminal activities by his officers whom he expected to act as role
    models in the community both on and off their line of duty.

    He said this in a statement released to ZANIS in lusaka today.

    Mr. Mateyo has since warned all police officers indulging in crimes to be ready to
    face the wrath of the law irrespective of their rank and status.

    Mr. Mateyo said the 10 police officers have since been nabbed while investigations
    have continued.

    Mr Mateyo expressed disappointment at such police officers who want to turn the
    police service into a laughing stock because of their unacceptable.

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  10. So what are you waiting for? Have you had anyone blocking you from loosing your mind and turning into a mindless vandal??? Too much of talk exposes you as being a sissy. Levy is not like KK and Chiluba who believed in ukwipaya or Sata who believes in pangas on those that oppose his madness. Even in Mukobeko should you cost life historically Levy will not and does not commute capital punishment. But those who privately feel you are nuisance in their communities will level you privately wherever your madness will mislead you and show up. Let me not hear rant in the cyberspace again. Just go for it shaa!

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  11. “it is wealth fighting for as it is part of our life and our children” End Quote Chitoba 10.

    So what are you waiting for? Have you had anyone blocking you from loosing your mind and turning into a mindless vandal??? Too much of talk exposes you as being a sissy. Levy is not like KK and Chiluba who believed in ukwipaya or Sata who believes in pangas on those that oppose his madness. Even in Mukobeko should you cost life historically Levy will not and does not commute capital punishment. But those who privately feel you are nuisance in their communities will level you privately wherever your madness will mislead you and show up. Let me not hear rant in the cyberspace again. Just go for it shaa!

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  12. #1 Ba koswe mweba intellectual how do you start a discussion/debate by first attacking Ba JOSE? Ba ‘some-of us’ lead by example and start debating intelligently yourself. Iyo zoona nimwebo ba gentele konswe.

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  13. Haivotele Himwine (HH) and his party should stop camplaining, because it was the first to condemn and throw salvo to PF when it noticed that govt and ZCID are up to no good. For sure umukulu tapusa kebo apusa akabwe. You should know that Chuchu has studied dribbling tactics lesson from FJT political centre near Arcades (the wake up appointing authority)and passed with a distinction. He has now become good, better, best chief dribbler than his master, the tutor.

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  14. mala – msana wandalama 14,
    Ba Joze has slid badly. Just advise him to consider name and doctrinal mutation if he has to regain his lost conscious and place on the blog. Unless you live in denial, Ba Joze in his carelessness has undoubtedly been bumped into by a seasoned pundit looking at the systematic and smart way ba Joze has been mined and squeezed until he has exposed his entire empty head typical of thugs every time they are cornered online. It has left him hibernating and ranting with self dehumanizing tantrums. So as Pragmatist took him on, of the two Ba Joze has been mutilated. His Doctrine has won a broader perception of being the “Satanic Verses”. He has failed to manage himself on contentious issues he brought up.

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  15. You see pipo, HH and Co new from on-set that the big man Sata was right, but they had a problem echoing his position thinking pipo will laugh at them as coping Sata all the time as they have done in the past. Instead of them being sincere and keep quiet, they were the first to condemn PF. Now they are eating their own words. What kind of pipo are these. Just because you hate someone is no reason to be on the wrong side. Now here we are, they will shoulder more embarassment than those they chose to discredit based on the same issues they are raising now.
    What lack of stand point for the “chameleon” young man. It doesnt pay to blow hot and cold. ‘Ubu ebu mwaluka mputi’ on the part of UPND.

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  16. #16 Iwe KANSWE, are you alright, what are you talking about? What contentious issues did JOSE bring up that he’s failed to manage? My friend, you’re so incoherent, honestly you need serious medical attention. We dont need more headache on this blog, its enough as it is, we already have EASY to put up with.

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  17. I see a lot of dyslexia here,,the reasons advanced by “the spoiled old man” & that of UPND r very different mwebantu.
    The media has work to do,maybe printin in local languages wud help.

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  18. Our politicians are opportunist. They don’t any principles they follow. That is why they move from that party to this party. There direction is the wind and their objective is getting into power. Once into power, they will come around to the electrorates every 5 years asking for votes yet doing nothing for their people. Shameless job seekers without principles.
    Joze mwaice! Happy 28th Birthday…!

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  19. Fellow contributors, for a while we have discussed this constitution issue, as well as who is trying to hoodwink who, how it is to be adopted etc etc!! So far this talk has been generalised and i think it is time we started discussing what SPECIFIC clauses in the current constitution we seem to have problems with.I’m sure a SPECIFIC issue discussion will exclude a few contributors because alot of us are not sure what we are talking about in the first place!! We need to categorise exactly what we want to see changed and maybe we may all begin to understand why LPM and MMD are trying so hard to change it THEIR WAY!!!

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  20. Iwe Chi #16 Kanswe, uli walubuli sana. Ba Jose nabaleka ukulanda ucili ulebantendeka. Just shut up about Ba Jose and continue contributing senseble about the topics at hand,if u are dyslexia about this topic ask Pragmatist.

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  21. GLUCO 20,
    I can hardly get what you are struggling to communicate in your broken English. I find Easy’s struggle even better and closer to English.

    I quote you below:

    “Our politicians are opportunist. They don’t any principles they follow. That is why they move from that party to this party.”

    Please feel free to post in your native language. I am fluent on 7 regional languages from North to South,and east to the West. I offer free service of rewritting your work from your native into English for public reading here if only you could be posting on Wednesdays when i have time to blog.

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  22. Mwanawasa also said Government strongly believed that the interaction between Zambia and Djibouti should transcend the political sphere and trickle down into trade and culture. The President said such interactions would enable the two countries strengthen longstanding political relations and bonds of friendship at all levels.“My Government strongly believes that your visit to Zambia will constitute a turning point in the political relations of our two countries,” President Mwanawasa said.He said Mr Guelleh’s visit to Zambia went beyond fostering a better understanding between the two Governments and providing an insight into the developments to closer cooperation in the cultural and economic fields.And Mr Guelleh said President Mwanawasa’s good leadership since he headed Government in 2002, deserved international support and emulation because Zambia had made many economic strides which the local people should be proud of. He said his visit to Zambia was mainly dedicated to sharing Djibouti’s experiences on how it had struggled in fighting poverty and the way it had contributed to the restoration of peace and security in the Common Market for East and Southern Africa and other regions. Mr Guelleh urged Africans to ensure that the continent no longer depended on other developed nations’ support.

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  23. #25 Sojo there so much clauses that we need change in the constitution we can not specific them all on this blog, pantu bulecha. One of them is Lesa ku mulu Kaunda panshi and the abortion issue need to change to suit what Zedian wants.

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  24. HH needs to wake up from slumber and realise that politics in Zambia is very dirty. He further needs to understand that he is not running Grant Thorton.

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  25. Volunter wila condema aba nobe pa ma sentence constructions waunfwa! Your name? Volunter or Volunteer, Which is Which? ADVISE.

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  26. Volunter!
    That sentence you couldn’t get any sense from is talking about our politicians who don’t have a vision hence jumping from one political party to the other. The bottom line is that they are power hungry. You’ll have bear with my English and my typographical errors. I am not Anglo-Saxon anyway. Volunter, are you a politician? You sound to be so irritant.

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  27. Ba AM(26),ba Sojo read my mind and only you have taken up the challenge.one item you have referred to is “lesa kumulu Kaunda panshi”I assume you mean the number of terms of a president.currently it is a maximum of two…do you have a problem with that and you want a referendum etc etc to change that?? Then you mentioned abortion…you want that in the constitution??…what about abortion Ba AM ?? Can you see that PL2,GLUCO,TrulyZambian etc are avoiding specifics !!!This is my point exactly…..how many people contributing to these threads even know what a constitution is and what goes in it and what doesn’t!! People are just overly excited with internet access and are basically wasting peoples time with shallow contributions.

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  28. #30 Ba Pundit I, for one wants the above mentioned clauses to be removed from constitution. One term of five years is enough for a intellectual president. Abortion is as of now legatised in the constitution and want it removed with immediately effect, because thats murder of unborn human being. There are so many clauses that other zedian wants or dont want that is why CA should be imminent.

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  29. Guys guys,am sure if u r able to use internet u can as well keep a debate in english,wats with these vitundu atase

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  30. As usual, politicians are bikering over terminology, mode of adoption of the constitution and so forth. There is as yet no real debate about the substance of the constitution. Should Zambia be a federal state, should cabinet be appointed outside Parliament, should leaders of opposition parties with a certain number of seats in Parliament be entitled to seats in Parliament, what should be the powers of the President, what kind of electoral system should we adopt, do we want a Presidential system like the USA or Westminster style a.k.a UK, India, Canada, Australia, should we continue the hybrid system that we currently have, etc, etc?

    For more than 5 years we have sidelined the real issues and despite the publication of the Mung’omba CRC Report, we are still getting twisted in technicalities. if there is general consensus over what we want, mode of adoption does not really matter. LPM, like the good defence lawyer he is, has restricted real discussion to technicalities!

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  31. At least some on this blog are trying to cover some real constitutional issues. Bravo AM, Pundit!

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  32. Ba AM(31,one five year term is unheard of anywhere in the world the reasoning is within that time you are unlikely to see much benefit in changes that you may make however intellectual your president may be.maybe 2 four year terms like in the US?? As regards abortion i would think it should be allowed only after a medical recommendation.with technology you can tell if a child will have severe brain damage for example.would you want such a child growing up in a country like zambia with such poor medical facilities?

    Ba Chiller(33+34),it is a well known political gimmick to confuse the electorate and get them arguing over things they really don’t understand.A confused electorate is easily manipulated.we are indeed confused about technicalities and LPM and MMD DO NOT want us to discuss what we really want or don’t want..they are happy for us to waste time talking about who should chair the ZCID/whether it should be the CA or CC etc etc

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  33. #36 Ba Pundit, as a christian nation let us depend on God who can change any situation or any kind of severe brain damage to unborn child and can do wonders for that matter. Remember God is supreme over creation and that no amount of technology can read’s God thoughts. Let us leave God creation to God and concentrate on machineries made by human technology.

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  34. Ba AM(37), God helps those who help themselves.Forget about that christian nation palaver, it has no bearing on everyday life in zambia!!FTJ was a born again Christian professing his “faith” everyday and yet he robbed the nation blind!!God has given us the power to invent machines to detect deformity etc BEFORE we bring a child into the world to suffer.What kind of life do you think a child born with severe brain defects would have when the parents are unable to even eat TWICE a day.Lets be realistic and responsible.Irresponsible abortion should not be allowed i agree, but abortion that is medically recommended or endorsed should be.

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  35. #38 Ba Pundit, Have u ever heard that a SIN is SIN (Chimo ni Chimo by young MAMPI) whether irresponsible abortion or medically endorsed, it all comes to the same thing – murder. A murder in all form is a SIN. A child born with deformity has got right to live and grow (God willing) in whatever situation it is in, like a normal child. Children born normal suffer but still grow up with God’s grace. What makes u think that child born with deformity will not grow. Ba Pundit nobody has got the right to take one’s life in any form. When God says I will help those who help themselves, He did not say I will help those who kill my unborn creation.

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  36. Guys is it true that the current clause(s) on media/freedom of information issues in the CRC draft constitution is open to introduction of pornography in the country. I mean pipo have said that it effectively outlaws any form of censorship and hence a recipe for open selling of porn literature in book shops, video shops, etc as the case is in UK, Ireland, or generally in Europe, or SA. I dont know about USA as I have not been there before. If so, what are the implications on Zed. Are we better of morally than our freinds in the countries I have mentioned, or infact there may not be any difference considering that porn is now globalised through the this facility we are using and lately the intelligent mobile phone communication systems which can allow through obscene literature? Is the Censorship worthy it or its like fighting a losing battle? Come on somebody!

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  37. Joe (40),
    Yes sir it is true to that effect. FYI that is the circular society many of those perverts in the so called civil society are crying for. The majority among them are either Earthists or Homosexuals among them is the confrontational tabloid Chief and Musa Mwenya.

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  38. Immorality shouldn’t be condoned, just becoz it looks like a losing battle doesn’t mean we should give up, just as we are not giving up trying to turn the way politics are run/perceived in zambia. For e.g. if 3/4 of your neighbours drink kachasu, doesn’t mean you should join them, maintain your values!

    Pipo argue that FREEDOM OF SPEECH is freedom to express whatever one wants, but not to the extent that it will impinge on others freedoms too. You have mentioned FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, which is not the same, this relates to a request you are entitiled to make, to obtaining certain information about the state or any public institution that holds information about you. They are then legally obliged to give you that information within a specified period of time, failure to which they can be penalised.

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  39. #41 Pundit , I take it you mean “SECULAR SOCIETY”. Am afraid as I have explained above “freedom of Information” has nothing to do with popularising Pornography!

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  40. Thanks Pundit and Bauze for responding. Bauze thank you for differentianting between ‘freedom of info’ and that of ‘speech’. The latter is what I actually meant to refer to. So what should be the way forward on this issue. It may not be addressed by the CC or the CA at the rate we are going since we are all carried away by the mode of adoption. And it seems more needs to be done to streamline this draft thing. What do you guys think, because these are things that will affect Zedians in their daily lives.

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  41. Joe(40),freedom of information relates to the right every citizen should have to information held about them and others for so long as it is not classified for security purposes.freedom of information acts often appear in constitutions whereas censorship in the Zambian context is in the penal code.This is my humble understanding and i could be wrong.In Zambia being caught with pornography is a breach of provisions in the penal code and is a criminal offence and not a constitutional breach.Porn is alien to African culture and that is why it is banned.More liberal cultures allow it and even classify it( hard and soft).Freedom of information and data protection acts “sleep in the same bed” so you cannot talk of one without the other.

    BaAM(39)we could argue for all eternity…..let us agree to disagree.

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  42. Joe (40)

    Can you provide a link to this Media/ Freedom of Information Bill if it is online so that some of us can read this ‘porn’ clause you have written about? I know Fred Mmembe’s Post has been advocating for this bill to be passed and accepted and I have always wondered why but it all makes sense now.

    I think it would be morally wrong to legalise porn in Zed especially that we have an apocalyptic AIDS disaster on our hands already! Even if the Aids thing was there

    The Pundit (41)

    Do you know if this info can be found online? Are you also saying that Fred M and Musa M are homos?

    Bauze (42)
    How is the freedom of information bill linked to this porn / homo legalisation BS? Please fill some of us in.

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  43. FELLOW CONTRIBUTORS PLEASE NOTE:
    THERE IS A DUPLICATION OF NAMES

    1. THE Pundit (41)

    and me….. Pundit(45) are two different people.

    i do believe i was first to use this name but of course i cannot claim intellectual propriety or trademark rights.

    I will, for the sake of world peace, select another pen name to be known by !!

    THE PUNDIT(41) you may continue using the pen name as you wish.

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  44. What is good for Europe is not good enough for Africa. In Africa we value and respect the human body and hence we will do everything to covered it even in death. Even though our ancestors did not have cloths, long ago, but they tried by all means to cover their bodies with leaves. For our friends in Europe, it is nature to expose their bodies, because to them it is worthiless and can be exposed anyhow, anytime, everywhere. So let not copy anything that comes from Europe or continents.

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  45. Those of you interested in technology can read my article at ukzambians.co.uk ICT WHICH WAY FROM ZAMBIA(Wireless or Fiber) enjoy reading.

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  46. Ba AM(48), are you aware that porn is a multi billion dollar industry worldwide.In France they licence prostitutes and they pay tax and operate within a regulated framework of law!!!Nudity is natural and becoz we hide it…..it attracts a price and many misguided souls happily pay for it!! Homosexuality in RSA is legal…Mugabe will have none of it (ask his former president mhsrip)

    In some countries cannabis is a legal “cigarette”. One common feature of all these liberal countries is that their economies are 10000 times better than ours.

    In Zambia we spend too much time trying to feed,clothe and house ourselves and our children.we have no time for porn.But a time will come when it will become a regular activity.. so brace yourselves!!!You cannot stop it and in fact it is here already.The affluent sections of our society have regular access let nobody lie to you.This is why i said earlier…..leave out the christian nation palaver..we are already in Soddom and Gomorrah (Sin City)

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  47. #1 &16 Koswe
    Koswe, if you are bored with your life just go and hung and let pipo with sober minds continue contributing positively on this blog. If you father is a MMD cadre bootlicking chuchu to feed you then back off me and mind your business. Koswe, I sincerely find you to be a Chainama case that needs to be strained to bed for the behaviour you are now portraying. It all shows that you are a chap who has grudge against me for I am openly against most of MMD govt policies in which you are you father dwell for your existence. Grow up and mind your own business. Nobody will silence me and I will continue opposing your father’s party that has no vision. It’s absurd for you and Pandit your fellow shushushu to have ganged up to breath victory on the battle that was not yet started. I urge you to read the between the line on the comment passed by Bauze, then the bells will toll in your melted cheese brain. For your own info, am who am and I will remain the same. I beg you to shut your rotten mouth on RUFQUA. You ***** like your fellow idol.

    Koswe, every on this blog knows the MMD gang of Pragmatist, Veteran, Pandit and yourself koswe are shushushuz.

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  48. The Original Pundit! I’ve followed your debate with Bauze. I somehow agree with you. Let us face reality not hiding behind disney world FTJ created (CHRISTIAN NATION). Let us to look at things the way are. Not under the mirror of being declared a Christian. FTJ was stealing while blindfolding us with Christian Nation blanket. The whites used the bible to colonise and enslave us saying suffer now and enjoy in heaven. Are we in heaven now?

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  49. I agree with you ba Jose, tell these shushushuz the mumbwe koswes to shut up, they have nothing to tell the nation cos their father’s bootlick chuchu

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  50. Bokosi, read the lines and you will thoroughly understand. I didnt mean physically fighting but through diplomatic ways.A good constitution will never leave any man and woman as outsiders in governance as well as in meeting their aspirations and choices. Pipo like are so afraid that you are panicking that’s why you can’t see the better way of involving every citizen in the constitution making process.Fear is a sign of being a failure.

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  51. TILYENJI ENDORSES CONSTITUTION CONFERENCE
    By JERRY MUNTHALI
    UNIP president, Tilyenji Kaunda, has endorsed the constitutional conference as the best mode of adopting the constitution and urged political parties to win the confidence of all stakeholders in the review process.Speaking during a meeting with the Zambia Centre for Inter-Party Dialogue (ZCID) board members in Lusaka yesterday, Mr Kaunda said the summit of party presidents had agreed that the constitutional conference was an opportunity to make things right in the nation.“We as political parties must work hard to win the trust and confidence of all key interests that we mean well and shall deliver a constitutional process whose outcome shall be acceptable to all Zambians,” Mr Kaunda said.He called on political parties not to fail the people in their search for a new constitution.All political leaders must realise that in a free democratic republic, the respect that went with public office must be earned.“If political leaders treat one another with mutual respect and frankness, their followers and supporters cannot fail to take notice and be influenced,” Mr Kaunda said. He said political leaders must be able to identify matters of national interest on which consensus was possible.“Even in areas where there are irreconcilable differences, the art of reasoned discussion and debate must be cultivated instead of exchange of invectives and abuse,” he said.Political party leaders had the responsibility to build bridges across party lines and treat one another with courtesy because all citizens were equal in the eyes of the law.He said political parties played a critical role in the democratisation process and that they remained key to the consolidation of democracy.“The political context and the legal environment require constant reform. That’s why, we in UNIP have participated actively in the agenda for inter-party cooperation that culminated in the establishment of the ZCID,” he said.He thanked the ZCID board for inviting him to visit the ZCID secretariat because that gave him an opportunity to familiarise himself with its work.This was vital at a time when the profile of politicians and the role of political parties had received a lot of public attention in Zambian society.Meanwhile, the ZCID has reiterated that the constitutional conference would adopt the new constitution and perform all functions of the constituent assembly (CA) recommended by the Constitution Review Commission.This is according to a statement issued by ZCID spokesperson, Newton Ng’uni, in Lusaka yesterday.Mr Ng’uni said the ZCID board at its meeting yesterday reiterated the position by the presidents of political parties at their summit on June 23, 2007.The ZCID position was that the constitutional conference would adopt the constitution and perform all the functions that the CA was to do in line with the Mung’omba CRC recommendations.He said all citizens in their diversity would have a chance to debate and have input into the constitutional conference bill before it was presented to Parliament.The ZCID expected that the Bill establishing the constitutional conference would be inclusive. “For this reason, the ZCID expects utmost flexibility to ensure that the composition is highly inclusive to the satisfaction of all stakeholders.He said as party presidents instructed at the summit of presidents, the ZCID board had set August 10, 2007, as the date by which all political parties should submit their positions on the constitution.He said all ZCID members attended yesterday’s board meeting except the Patriotic Front, which sent apologies.All the members emphasised the need to continuously dialogue on any emerging contentious issues within the framework of the ZCID.“ZCID will remain committed to the principle of inclusiveness and will continue to engage other stakeholders in the process so that the nation can move forward,” he said.

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  52. THERE IS A FELLOW LEVEL-HEADED PATRIOTIC DEMOCRAT

    HH’s blind fragrance for confrontational politics will end him into the political archive with Sata before 2011. Unwittingly he is cruising into absolute irrelevance to the unfolding dispensation and national politics. He risks ending up as a Monze leader of the Ila people at waste I forewarn. Most of his advisors like the Sata ones are on full patriotism payroll. If they managed to slide KK off: who is the baseless HH to survive the intrigues? Politics is a complicated science that takes the capacity of systems, money and intellectual pull.

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  53. Ba Joze(52), what is the point of being a shushushu on a vibrant blog like this?This is a public fora where we must respect other peoples views, avoid verbal conflict and abuse whilst enjoying a wide variety of opinions.please don’t take the fun out of being a participant by hurling unverifiable and often hurtful accusations at your dear comrades.You will have noted that at no time have some people ridiculed your belief and frequent quotations from RUFQUA….this is a measure of respect for your beliefs and we humbly request you reciprocate.

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  54. The Original Pundit (58),
    The Bottom-line is that Joze has proved right here beyond reasonable doubt as being a miserably deficient and ignorant on everything. From manors, brainpower, social skills, conflict management, data compilation and education he is a blunt one I attest to the fact as a free psychoanalyst. What doesn’t know is that shushushu is a very honorable and rewarding vocation. They draw from a blank cheque with opportunities from ZRA, BOZ to missions name them. A Bachelors degree takes them around the Globe on tax free packages. What I can say is that Joze is dangerously ignorant. He has no idea of their limitless capacity beyond the blogs. If they come on blogs, it would be for funny and not the discomfort of Joze.

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  55. Waona Jose
    Bantu bachikulile ba dandaula kuma kambidwe yako yoipa. Utembenuke

    Buntalamisoka na bu mwansakabinga uleke
    aba abafyashi uletendeka kuti bakulapisha.

    Basopo

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  56. #61 Citizen, I only speak out my mind. You surprise me greatly that a man of your age believe in junk stuff of “ukulapisha”. There is no connection. Mwaice citizen ala umuchishi tabashita iyoo. Its a two way traffic give imisepela respect and they will give you double respect te? Plz Citizen, you easterners thats why ndimwe bamuzungu anikonde cifukwa ciyopa unknown te?

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  57. # 62 JOSE
    If what you speak out is your mind, then you have got a warped mind.

    Show some remorse, than I can intercede on yor behalf with my Senior Citizen.

    At least I believe in “ukulapisha” curses, rather than you who believes in RUFQUA

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  58. #63 Citizen, nice to know that you are a joker.What I have done to show remorse? Mufana citizen kulimbe connection on curse. In the old testament it used to be common But when Jesus came, that word ya ukulapisha was removed. Your Snr Citizen was just describing himself thats why I didn’t not make any comment. But to you since you’re a bit reasonable, I can give you one or two advices on how to mingle with pipo. I hope you got my point mufana citizen te?

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  59. #63 Citizen, nice to know that you are a joker.What have I done to show remorse, PLZ TELL ME? Mufana citizen kulimbe connection on curse. In the old testament it used to be common But when Jesus came, that word ya ukulapisha was removed. Your Snr Citizen was just describing himself thats why I didn’t not make any comment. But to you since you’re a bit reasonable, I can give you one or two advices on how to mingle with pipo. I hope you got my point mufana citizen te?

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  60. *65 JOSE
    You are unrepentant and untrainable.

    There is fresh topic on the consitution conference bill. I need your input on that one

    Enjoy your evening Jose

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  61. #66 Citizen, are a teacher? The way you are passing orders one can easily tell or you have alot young brothers and sisters tee? Its common in eastern but mind you am not your bro. I seen it and its too early to pass my rich comments.

    “You are unrepentant and untrainable” that sounds like you have just finished a meal rat and now you have nuasea te? Peace mufana

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  62. #66 Citizen, are u a teacher? The way you are passing orders one can easily tell or you have alot young brothers and sisters tee? Its common in eastern but mind you am not your bro. I seen it and its too early to pass my rich comments.

    “You are unrepentant and untrainable” that sounds like you have just finished a meal of rats and now you have nuasea te? Peace mufana

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