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Regina re-arrested

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FORMER President, Frederick Chiluba’s wife, Regina, was yesterday re-arrested and later released on a K300 million police bond.

This is barely two weeks after the State withdrew nine charges against her in the Ndola Magistrate Court.

Mrs Chiluba has now been charged with six counts out of the nine charges she initially faced.

She will appear in court on September 7, 2007, in Lusaka.

Mrs Chiluba is facing five counts which involve failure to account for properties believed to have been stolen or unlawfully obtained, contrary to section 319 (a) CAP 87 of the Laws of Zambia.

The other count is of allegedly receiving property knowing or having reason to believe that the same had been stolen, contrary to section 318 sub-section one CAP 87 of the Laws of Zambia.

Mrs Chiluba was released on police bond at 14:15 hours with two sureties who are Kasama member of Parliament, Saviour Chishimba, and Dr Chiluba’s spokesperson, Emmanuel Mwamba.

Officers from the Task Force on Corruption went to Dr Chiluba’s residence in Kabulonga to fetch his wife after she declined to report to their offices.

According to Mr Mwamba, the officers went to Dr Chiluba’s residence at 11:30 hours with a search warrant, to look for Mrs Chiluba.

The officers were allowed in and informed that Mrs Chiluba would only go to the station upon the arrival of her lawyer, Robert Simeza.

“After the lawyer arrived, we all drove to Woodlands Police Station,” he said.

Mrs Chiluba who was accompanied by her husband and several relatives, was arrested and taken to the police cells at Woodlands Police Station, where she was detained for about 10 minutes.

Dr Chiluba went into the cells with his wife.

Mrs Chiluba was released after the bond was signed by the officer in charge.

The six counts Mrs Chiluba has been charged with include allegations related to properties in Kitwe and Ndola, K417 million held in her Standard Chartered Bank account in Ndola, and two motor vehicles, an Isuzu and a Toyota Rav 4.

166 COMMENTS

  1. It is just sheer waste of tax payer’s money. Another Nolle. More pay for ACC. Nothing recovered yet. Why deal with small fish, deal with the big fish.

  2. Mr Nkole is a very bad administrator, he needs to go back to school and study management science. He is very ineffective.

  3. Political mileage again for someone. We cant be commenting on such issues as they are retrogressive. We now know how disgrantled these chaps in govnt are. Please spare us time to read and comment on developmental and progressive issues.

    They (gov) really do know to divert our attention from pressing issues. Brothers and sisters on the blog, dont let them make us belive they are doing anything for mother Zed. This just shows that they read what you write are scared of the charisma you have in your debates on the blog.
    Viva blog power

  4. It is pity that Chuchu and ACC has turned the court rooms into political platforms. Innocent people are in cells waiting for judgement while ACC and the Chiluba issues are killing us for the second time. Twanaka nenu ba Dilamba (GABORN) Twaleniko tu tax twamipela ku UNZA, Why waiting for another NOLLE?

  5. Why do you read them are you forced to do so? If you are, then you are fools!Gallant Zambians will stop at nothing but deliver justice to thieves on behalf of the 10s of thousands poor people who were prematurely forced to die leaving behind their helpless families due to denial of medical care in hospitals. May the blood of all poor dead Zambians be upon the heads of these self exposed useless and irrational fools in defense of criminals.May justice reign al enemies of of soil. May the spirit of Dean Mung’omba, Edward Shamwana, Wezi Kaunda, Hanson Kamima, Richard Ngenda, Pumulo, Paul Tembo, Ronald Siame Penza, Curtbert Ng’uni and Ngoma invigorated the call for justice unto all the soulless and moraless myopic tribalists barking in cyberspace for criminals.

  6. # 59,
    You have truth and wisdom there as your breast plate. Leadership is very expensive. It’s like when Heads of states and Governors sign commutation letters for criminals and murderers to hang and go six feet down. Noble leadership calls for a strong heart for justice to prevail.

    Chiluba has been not only a thief, but a soulless murderer no different from the era of General Pinochet who pushed thousands of his people into the Graveyard and exile. It’s only now under Levy that not even flies die nor exile.

    All I can say on Chiluba is that may the spirit of Dean Mung’omba, Edward Shamwana, Wezi Kaunda, Hanson Kamima, Richard Ngenda, Pumulo, Paul Tembo, Ronald Siame Penza, Curtbert Ng’uni and Ngoma invigorate the call for justice unto all the soulless and amoral myopic tribalists barking in cyberspace for criminals.

    The Good thing is that the police is a service and not a force as it were. Addition to that, the Zambia today has a professional Police service of wise professionals, experienced, and highly educated selfless Zambians like never before. This is different from the Chiluba’s Musole days used in killing Zambians and cooked Black mamba/ Zero option treasons until they killed Mung’omba and broke Nakatindi’ spine code.

  7. PRESIDENT Levy Mwanawasa has urged Zambians living abroad to invest back home to help boost the country’s economy.

    And President Mwanawasa yesterday joined King Mswati III in gracing the popular Umhlanga or reed dance ceremony in Swaziland, which attracts thousands of local people and foreigners.
    Addressing Zambians living in Swaziland at the Royal Villas in Mbabane on Sunday night, President Mwanawasa said Zambians living abroad could greatly contribute to the country’s foreign exchange earnings by ploughing back.

    President Mwanawasa challenged Zambians to emulate other nationals from other countries who were known for investing in their countries of origin from their earnings made abroad.
    There are currently over 200 Zambian families said to be living in Swaziland, most of whom are medical doctors, engineers, nurses, teachers and other highly skilled professionals working in the private and government institutions.

    President Mwanawasa said government had created a right working environment for business, which Zambians living abroad could exploit.
    He said the government attracted investments into the country to help create jobs, a situation that could help in achieving high revenue from income tax.

    President Mwanawasa said improved revenue could facilitate development of infrastructure and the provision of good social services to people.
    He further said the economy had in the past six years grown by an average of five per cent with this year’s growth projected between six to seven per cent.

    President Mwanawasa also said unemployment, which stood at 87 per cent when he took over office, had significantly reduced to 75 per cent due to the opening of new mines and other investments.
    On education, President Mwanawasa expressed concern at the frequent and premature closures of the University of Zambia (UNZA) due to student unrest.

    He said the closures resulting from violent protests in which property is damaged had compromised the quality of education at the highest institution of learning.
    President Mwanawasa said the university calendar now lagged behind as a result of the frequent closures.

    The President’s remarks followed concerns raised by Zambians in that country over the situation surrounding students at UNZA.
    He said due to the delayed academic calendar, most school leavers had to wait for about one year to enlist into university.

    President Mwanawasa said the government was pleading with the students not to resort to protests for the administration to close their institution as doing so had negatively affected the quality of education.

    He said government wanted the students to receive quality education.
    And President Mwanawasa, who was chief guest at the ceremony held at Ludzidzini in the valley of Ezulwini, danced alongside King Mswati and South Africa’s African National Congress deputy president Jacob Zuma while wielding a club in line with the norms of the Swazi ceremony.

    Zambia’s ambassador accredited to Mozambique, Swaziland and Mauritius George Chulumanda and foreign affairs minister Kabinga Pande were part of the group that performed the reed dance.
    At the beginning of the celebrations, over 100,000 girls aged below 22, clad in short beaded skirts and tops exposing one breast, marched past the platform where President Mwanawasa and the first lady, the king, Queen mother Ndlovukazi and other royal family members sat.

    The procession of the girls earlier marched carrying long reeds in their hands, which they deposited at some point before proceeding to the main arena for the celebrations.
    The annual reed dance ceremony has this year attracted an overwhelming number of girls from across the kingdom as well as countries of Zimbabwe, South Africa and Lesotho.

    At the height of the celebrations, President Mwanawasa and Zuma joined King Mswati in inspecting the colourful parade of the maidens wilding clubs, knives and pangas while giving out melodious traditional songs.
    Today, Tuesday, which has been declared a public holiday in Swaziland will be the climax of the Umhlanga and President Mwanawasa will also attend as chief guest.

    King Mswati is expected to pick a wife from among the participating girls in line with the Swazi tradition.
    This will be his 13th wife since ascending to the throne in 1986 at the age of 18.

  8. REGINA ASKED FOR IT

    By Editor: Monday September 03, 2007 [21:00]

    The right to equality before the law, or equal protection of the law as it is often phrased, is fundamental to any just society.

    Whether political ally of those in power or opponent – all are entitled to equal protection or fair treatment before the law.

    We appreciate that the state cannot guarantee that life will treat everyone equally, and it has no responsibility to do so. However, under no circumstances should the state impose what can be seen or interpreted as additional inequalities; it should be required to deal evenly, equally and fairly with all its people.

    And indeed no one should think they are above the law, which should, after all, be seen to be the creation of the people, not something imposed on them. Citizens should submit to the law because they recognise that, however indirectly, they are submitting to themselves as the makers of the law. When laws are established by the people who then have to obey them, both law and democracy are served.

    There is nothing illegal about the state entering a nolle prosequi in favour of Regina and later re-arresting her. This may be unfair on her, but it is certainly legal. And moreover, these are the same laws and practices her husband, Frederick Chiluba, used to use in dealing with his opponents.

    In fact, Chiluba at one time caused the arrest and prosecution of innocent citizens for saying that he had an affair with Regina, when she was still married to Eddie Mwanza. But the state later entered a nolle.

    This was not until after these accused persons had incurred huge legal bills trying to defend themselves. This was legal but not fair.

    And our judiciary, at whatever level, may find itself confronting these abuses, and may find itself subjected to enormous pressures to accept them. Often, if the process is legal but unfair, there is little that a court can do.

    And there is hardly a more powerful weapon which can be abused in the hands of a government than that of initiating or discontinuing prosecutions. And all our successive governments have abused the prosecution process using nolle prosequis.

    Regina is justified in her anger against the discontinuance of her prosecution through a nolle prosequi just to face re-arrest a few days later. She has already been subjected to a very stressful and costly process just to rewind it once more, just to start the wholeprocess afresh or de novo. This is not fair; this is not acceptable but there is nothing shecan do other than to subject herself to it once more because although it is unfair, it is legal and the state is acting within the law

    Attempting not to cooperate with law enforcement agencies will not be helpful to her; it will actually just put her at a disadvantage.
    The police, as Task Force chairman Max Nkole, has correctly warned have the right to use reasonable force to arrest and detain her.

    Regina may just end up denying herself access to a police bond. And this will just be an exercise in futility because she has no capacity or power to defy the state. No one has succeeded in doing so, unless they have got an army or a militia of their own running a state within a state. Otherwise, Regina will be picked up in a rough and embarrassing way.

    We therefore advise her to cooperate with the orders being given to her because although they may be said to be unfair, they are legal and as such have to obeyed.
    This said, there is need for us to turn to the issue of the way Regina’s prosecution was conducted by the state. We have never seen such incompetence and inefficiency in the conduct of such a high-profile case. From the very beginning it was very clear that the state was not ready to proceed and was totally off-tangent.

    The prosecution appeared to have been at sea, it did not know what it was doing and had little knowledge of the case. The prosecution counsel was totally lost and acted in a manner that made it look as though the state had no case against Regina and was merely victimising her for political or other reasons.

    For us, who have followed these cases and helped in digging them out, the prosecution counsel looked stupid and continually made a fool of itself. But we are not blaming the prosecution counsel for this. The blame should lie with those who engaged them to do the job they were not ready for.

    These are not ordinary petty theft cases; they are very complicated white collar crimes committed over a long period of time by very intelligent people with evil and selfish minds. As such, a lot of work is needed by the prosecution counsel to understand the matrix of what went on, of how public funds were abused or stolen. Clearly, this was not the case in Regina’s prosecution. The prosecution counsel had clearly not done this homework properly and hence its poor performance in court.

    The Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) had no alternative but to invoke his statutory powers to enter a nolle prosequi and start the matter de novo.
    It is our sincere belief that the DPP had no intention to inconvenience or to be seen to be victimising Regina. But the bungling of the case by the prosecution counsel had to be remedied and the only way this could be done was via a nolle prosequi and a re-arrest of Regina.

    This is certainly not fair to Regina, but as we have already stated it is perfectly legal – it used to be done even during her husband’s presidency.

    But there is need for the state to take all necessary steps to ensure that prosecutions are conducted in an efficient, effective, orderly and fair manner.

    What happened in Regina’s case could have been avoided if care had been taken in the engagement of prosecutors.
    We should not forget that in every society throughout history those who administer the criminal justice system hold power with the potential for abuse and tyranny.

    We know that in the name of the state, individuals have been unjustly arrested, detained and mistreated in all sorts of ways without legal justification. No just society can tolerate such abuses.

    Every state must have the power to maintain order and to punish criminals, but this must be done in a manner that is seen to be fair and just – and not only legal because as we have seen, some practices or procedures can be legal but not fair. We should remove from our criminal justice system or judicial process arbitrariness and practices that appear to be subject to political manipulation by those in power.

    We have no doubt that the state has a good case against Regina but it is today made to look vindictive and unfair because of the incompetence, the poor handling of the case by the prosecution counsel. This should be, and can be, avoided. The cost of allowing this may prove too high if we are not careful. We should not forget that there is too much at stake in these cases because they involve people who are literally fighting for their lives.

  9. I honestly had failed to see any harmony between the content and title of this editorial. What exactly did she ask for? I suppose they meant by marrying Chiluba, who this convoluted and incompetent prosecution seems targeted at. This is a cheap shot Fred Mmembe.

  10. Justice has no bounderies. We could learn from other nations.

    THAKSIN HIT BY NEW ARREST WARRANT

    A second set of arrest warrants has been issued in Thailand for the former PM Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife.
    The warrants were issued in relation to a police inquiry into the couple’s alleged violations of stock-trading laws, investigators said.
    Last month, a court issued warrants for the couple over corruption allegations relating to a land sale.
    Mr Thaksin has lived abroad since he was deposed a year ago. He has since bought Manchester City football club.
    “The court approved an arrest warrant,” Pornchai Asavawattanaporn of the Department of Special Investigations (DSI) said.
    The DSI is investigating allegations that Mr Thaksin and his wife Pojaman had concealed their assets in a firm, SC Assets Co Ltd.
    The department said it had sought the warrant as the couple had repeatedly failed to appear in Bangkok to hear the charges.
    The couple were served with their first arrest warrant last month by the Supreme Court after failing to appear to hear the first in a series of corruption cases being brought against them.
    In that case, Mr Thaksin is accused of abusing his power while in office, by helping his wife buy land from a state agency at a favourable price.
    Mr Thaksin and his family have denied all allegations of corruption against them, and say the charges are politically motivated.
    His lawyer Noppadol Pattama told the BBC recently that Mr Thaksin feared his life would be in danger if he returned to Thailand.
    “He would consider going back after the next Thailand election and with the return of full democracy,” Mr Pattama said.

  11. BANGLADESH FORMER PM IS ARRESTED

    The military-backed interim government in Bangladesh has detained former Prime Minister Khaleda Zia and her son.
    Ms Zia was refused bail in a Dhaka court and jailed to await trial, her lawyer said. She faces charges of extortion and corruption.
    Her lawyer said he suspected her arrest was politically motivated.
    Hours earlier, new corruption charges were made against another former Prime Minister, Sheikh Hasina, who is already accused of extortion and murder.
    Bangladesh has been under emergency rule since January, when the interim government cancelled elections. It has banned most political activity.
    The interim government has arrested 150 politicians in what it says is a crackdown on corruption.
    But one of her lawyers, Abdul Wadud Khandakerm, said Ms Zia’s arrest was aimed at forcing her out of politics.
    “She told the court that the case was fabricated, motivated, conspiratorial and fictitious,” he said, adding that Ms Zia would return stronger than before.
    Tight security
    Ms Zia and her younger son, Arafat Rahman Coco, were led to court amid tight security after being arrested at her home at 0730 (0130 GMT).
    Hundreds of police surrounded the court and thousands of Zia supporters gathered outside.
    Security forces had surrounded the home since midnight (1800 GMT Sunday).
    Ms Zia – leader of the Bangladesh Nationalist Party – is facing charges of corruption and abuse of power for allegedly using her influence to determine the operators of two state container depots in 2003, during her second term as prime minister.
    Mr Coco is accused of pushing his mother to approve the deal. He is still being questioned by police and will remain in custody for seven days, lawyer Rafiqul Islam Miah said.
    Eleven others are also named in the case, brought by Bangladesh’s Anti-Corruption Commission.
    Ms Zia – who stepped down as prime minister in October 2006 – is also facing criminal charges connected with earlier tax evasion allegations.
    Bitter rival
    On Sunday, the anti-corruption commission filed charges against Ms Zia’s bitter rival Sheikh Hasina, the head of the Awami League, accusing her of taking illegal payments from a private electricity firm totalling $435,000 (£215,000).
    The commission said Sheikh Hasina had taken the money when she was in power between 1996 and 2000.
    Sheikh Hasina denies all charges against her. She has been in custody since July.
    Six other people, including former senior officials, have also been charged.
    This is the first charge brought against Sheikh Hasina by a government body, so is seen to carry more weight than the others, says the BBC’s Mark Dummett in Dhaka.
    Sheikh Hasina is being held in a house in the parliament complex.

  12. #11 When I read that editorial this morning, the title was “Regina just submit”. I’m suprised the title has now changed to “Regina asked for it”. It just goes to show that Fred Mmembe is personalising this issue. It also show how childish and criminal the Post is at the same time.

  13. The Post have consistently been very representative of the average Zambians view. Regina asked for the hype by refusing to submit initially……she asked for it in many ways. By marrying the crook, if you like…list is endless

  14. Hey now you are talking. Mmembe’s editorial should have just been to the point instead of hiding under a lengthy essay which leaves one wondering where it’s going. It’s easy for you to say the Post represents an average zambian but their paper is clearly a substandard forum which does very little analysis on any issue i can think of, other than their daily insinuations about FJT, Sata, Mwaanga or Kalusha Bwalya. Writing a sarcastic editorial can satisfy a mob at UNZA or Evelyn Hone but it isnt top class, ‘representative’ journalism. But if your standard is Times of Zambia maybe you’d find them more appealing.

  15. The Post Newspaper is a substandard newspaper that I have ever seen. Its news, analysis (except for sports and other isolated features), it is like grouping some Primary school children learning how to write. It lacks critical thinking skills demanded by College or University type of writing that a Newspaper of its standard should show. It is a vendetta-led paper whose opinions are a let down and I wish they could learn from veterans such as Times of Zambia or Zambia Daily Mail even when they intend to criticize they come out very immature and unprincipled!

  16. I always wonder what the DPP’s Chambers do! Why are they not actively involved in evaluating & prosecuting criminal cases in Magistrate Courts? There’s a false belief in Zambia that Lawyers at the DPP’s Chambers are too important to stand before Magistrate Courts save the High Court. This is a fallacy and should be remedied with utmost urgency. It’s a waste of Tax Payers’ money to engage private prosecutors when the DPP’s Chambers are full of State Lawyers.More than 50% of Criminal Prosecutions are conducted before Magistrate Courts as opposed to High Court. Lawyers at the DPP’s Chambers are infact State Prosecutors who should be appearing before all Criminal Courts. Zambia needs a Directorate of Public Prosecutions that is independently organised,effective,efficient & accountable.The incompetence attributed to the Prosecutors in Regina’s case reflect’s badly on the DPP himself,for he seems to take interest in such cases only when things get nasty. Where’s he been all the while?

  17. From the Post

    CHILUBA SHOULDN’T USE REGINA’S CASE TO ATTRACT SYMPATHY – EMILY

    By Brighton Phiri: Tuesday September 04, 2007

    CHILUBA should not use his wife’s case to attract public’s sympathy, Women for Change executive director Emily Sikazwe said yesterday.

    And Transparent International Zambia (TIZ) president Reuben Lifuka said Regina’s case
    should serve as a lesson for the Task Force that they should be thorough when dealing with corruption cases and suspects.

    Commenting on former president Frederick Chiluba’s action at Lusaka’s Woodlands Police Station where he threw himself into a cell to join his wife Regina who was detained there, Sikazwe said it was wrong for Chiluba to tempt the police to arrest him for illegally detaining himself in a police cell in a bid to attract public sympathy.
    “Chiluba must wait for his turn as our courts of law are still dealing with his case.

    I expect Chiluba as former head of state, to know that it is illegal and wrong for him to throw himself in a police cell without being arrested. Chiluba should not tempt our police to arrest him by throwing himself into the cell in his quest to attract public sympathy. He is lucky because the police treated him like that considering that he is a former head of state,” Sikazwe said. “But Chiluba must be reminded that during his tenure of office, he used the police as instruments of terror…our memories are still very fresh on how the police tortured the late Dean Mung’omba. I, too, suffered at the hands of the police on Chiluba’s orders.”

    Sikazwe commended the police for acting differently from the way they acted during Chiluba’s era when Dr Kenneth Kaunda was arrested and thrown into police cells without any sympathy.

    “During Chiluba’s era it was unheard of for the police to plead with anyone, including Dr Kaunda, to get out of the police cell. Instead they were brutal under Chiluba’s orders. Ask Dr Kaunda, Fred M’membe, Dr Rodger Chongwe, Post Newspaper journalists, among others, they have something to share,” Sikazwe said. “We all know that under our laws, Chiluba is innocent until proved guilty, but as people of Zambia we have pronounced him guilty for crimes he committed against us. Many of our people who could have joined us in pronouncing Chiluba guilty are dead and buried because of his actions.”
    She commended the civil society for sensitising the police on the need to uphold and respect human rights.

    And Lifuka said TIZ was disappointed with the incident at Woodlands Police Station because both the Chiluba family and Task Force could have acted differently.
    “We believe that the Task Force could have handled the matter differently and Mr Chiluba and his wife Regina could have behaved in the manner befitting their status,” Lifuka said. “Mr Chiluba and Regina may have some problems with the state entering nolle but that does not mean they should subvert the law.”
    Lufuka said the drama surrounding Regina’s case should serve as a lesson for the Task Force to ensure that their actions did not raise any questions when dealing with corruption cases.

    “The Task Force must be professional at all times to ensure that their actions do not raise any questions,” said Lifuka.

  18. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?

    By Editor: Tuesday September 04, 2007

    No one should think they are above the law, which should, after all, be seen to be the creation of the people, and not something imposed on them.

    And this includes our former president, Frederick Chiluba and his wife Regina. All citizens should submit to the law because, however indirectly, they are submitting to themselves as the makers of the law.

    As we stated yesterday, there was nothing illegal in the decision by the police to re-arrest Regina. This might have been unfair on her but the police’s action was within the law – the law which her husband, Chiluba, used and left.

    Chiluba’s actions amounted to obstructing justice. By throwing himself into a police cell where Regina was being detained, Chiluba was interfering with, and obstructing the work of, the police. According to section 250 (b) of the Penal Code, any person who wilfully obstructs any police officer in the due execution of his duty is guilty of a misdemeanour and is liable to imprisonment for five years.

    We appreciate that Chiluba loves his wife, and he has the right to do so, but he is not the first person to have his wife arrested and detained. When Chiluba was president, he ordered the detention of Sikota Wina’s wife, Princess Nakatindi, at Kabwe’s Mukobeko Maximum Prison. There was no provision for Sikota to accompany his wife. And who in this country doesn’t know how close Sikota and Princess Nakatindi are – the two are inseparable; wherever you see Sikota, Princess Nakatindi will be there. And moreover at that time in 1997, Sikota and Princes Nakatindi had been together for more than 25 years. But Sikota didn’t obstruct the police, they were not obstructed in any way in executing their duties.

    This was not because Sikota did not love his wife as much as Chiluba loves Regina. It was simply because Sikota had respect for the law and didn’t see himself as being above it. Although Sikota knew very well, and more than anyone else, that his wife was innocent and Chiluba was merely abusing his powers by detaining her, he respected the law. This equally applies to Dr Rajan Mathani when Chiluba detained him on trumped-up treason charges. Mrs Mathani, although she knew very well that Chiluba had no proper case against her husband, didn’t obstruct the work of the police or try to throw herself in police cells with him.

    What about Dr Kenneth Kaunda? Soon after taking power in 1991, Chiluba subjected Dr Kaunda to a search to which he obliged although he knew very well that he was just being subjected to a malicious and humiliating probe. Chiluba alleged that Dr Kaunda had stolen books from State House and had his goods at a warehouse in Lusaka searched to recover the stolen items. Nothing was found.

    On Christmas Day in 1997, Chiluba ordered the arrest and detention of Dr Kaunda on trumped-up treason charges. Again Dr Kaunda didn’t resist the arrest and his loving wife Betty didn’t in any way try to go to prison with him. The only person who threatened to join Dr Kaunda in prison was Mwalimu Julius Nyerere. He threatened that if Kenneth did not stop his hunger strike and eat something, he too was going to remain in Mukobeko Maximum Prison with him.

    But today what is this nonsense of Chiluba and his wife thinking they are above the law? Who do they think they are? It is true every person, every accused person, is innocent until proved guilty. This is the presumption of law. But we know, and all those people who demonstrated in large numbers in 2002 calling for the removal of Chiluba’s immunity so that he could be prosecuted for corruption believe that the man is a thief, he had stolen from them. If you find a person stealing your chickens, the law presumes him to be innocent until proved guilty. But in your heart of hearts, and no one can tell you otherwise, the man is a chicken thief. This is the way the Zambian people look at Chiluba.

    No amount of deception, propaganda or posturing will convince them otherwise.
    Today Chiluba is telling us that he has documentary evidence to show who the true thieves are. We cannot dispute this because we don’t know what he has, and the true thieves he is talking about. But this shows one side of his character – tolerance of corruption, of theft.

    If Chiluba has documentary evidence of who the true thieves are, why hasn’t he reported these thieves to the police, Anti Corruption Commission or other state agencies like the Drug Enforcement Commission? It had to take the arrest of his wife for him to say all these things! Is this the way for a responsible former president, who really loves his country, to behave? This behaviour speaks volumes about Chiluba’s attitude towards corruption and theft. We urge him to publicly reveal the documentary evidence he has to show who the true thieves are. If he can’t, he should just shut up.

    We know that Chiluba is desperately looking for sympathy. But the Zambian people are not fools. They know who deserves sympathy and who doesn’t. Our people will never feel sorry for a snake charmer who gets bitten; for a thief who gets caught and is prosecuted.

    Chiluba should thank his stars that his wife was very lucky to be prosecuted by an incompetent and inefficient prosecutor. The state has got a good case against Regina. There is a clear prima facie case against her – Regina’s wealth is far above her earned income and she will have difficulties completing a schedule of income and expenditure that balances without putting in unearned income.

    We can only hope Chiluba, being a Christian, remembers what it means to ‘do unto others as you would like them to do unto you.’ We cannot preach justice to others if we do not preach justice to ourselves. Chiluba cannot call others to virtues, to practices which he himself never believed in, never practised when he was in power as president of the Republic of Zambia.

    Again, there is nothing wrong the state did in entering a nolle prosequi in favour of Chiluba’s wife and re-arresting her on Monday. This process may certainly be unfair – and Chiluba, when he was in power, took advantage of it to harass his political opponents – but it is certainly legal. And the rule of law requires that we all respect the law whether we agree with it or not. And Chiluba’s conduct is not that of a person who respects the law; it is lawless behaviour from a person who thinks he is above the law. But the question again is: Who the hell does Chiluba think he is to be above the law?

  19. Some more rubbish out of Fred M’membe’s mouth. I think the guy should just state his true stance over this FTJ vendetta thing, for me, its getting boring.

  20. #19 CK or sicky,you are sick and need medical attention
    immediately before your condition gets worse.Times and Daily Mail English writing is just too pathetic.How can you honestly call these people veterans?You are not reliable person.

  21. Regina Chiluba will never see peace as long as Vera Chiluba is a minister under LPM adminstration.It is a well known fact, Regina stole Vera’s Husband so now it is pay back time.It is like a soapie.The next episode will see either LPM visit jail after 2011 or Maureen will be the victim.In the meantime Mr. Mwanza is just laughing all the way to the Bank

  22. The quote by Sage# 22 is spot on.Chiluba was way off mark by going in the cell with his wife.How on earth did the arresting officer allow him in a cell reserved for female detainees.Most pipo have been locked up but they dont take their spouses in with them. I dont see how Chiluba should be an exception.

  23. (23),
    Ulikapuba sana why do you read the post? M’membe is speaking for the millions while making his money.

    Baby dumper arrested

    By CHARITY MUSA

    POLICE in Ndola have arrested a 22-year-old woman for allegedly dumping her newly-born baby in a neignbour’s pit latrine in Kawama Township.

    Royness Chikoti was arrested yesterday after allegedly admitting to dumping the baby.

    Copperbelt police commanding officer, Antoneill Mutentwa, confirmed in an interview yesterday that the woman was arrested but handed to Ndola Central Hospital for doctors to confirm whether she delivered the baby before dumping it or she aborted.
    She is admitted to hospital.

    Mr Mutentwa said Chikoti would be officially charged after police verify if she aborted or delivered.

    Mr Mutentwa said officers from Ndola Fire Brigade destroyed the pit latrine to remove the body from the human wastes in the early hours of yesterday.

    A Daily Mail team that rushed to the crime scene found scores of people waiting to see the dead baby that was retrieved from the pit latrine.

    When the fire brigade officer retrieved the body, it was left inside Chikoti’s parents’ house waiting for police to transport it to Arthur Davison Children’s Hospital mortuary where it remained awaiting a postmortem.

    The neigbours explained that they found a container where the baby was put before it was pushed into the pit latrine at the neigbour’s house.

  24. Bamashina (27),
    Be advised that i have cordially accepted to sharing the SAGE ID with you. Hope you will help me uphold the status of a true SAGE. I do not hold any propriety rights to it though here for some months.
    Please feel free and debate your way.

  25. #29 we dont want twins on this blog.Not even identical twins by the way share the same name.So one of you should fix up things.We dont want stolen names.

  26. Amon Simutowe has become the first Black African to qualify for the Grandmaster title after victory at the Euwe Stimulans tournament recently completed at Arnhem. The 25 year old Zambian has been travelling the world for six years playing chess and is a national hero in his homeland having been named Sportsman of the Year. He now needs to gain some rating points to get to the 2500 level required by Fide
    Source Memeza

  27. Everyone knows the Regina and Chiluba issues will not stop until the courts do what the “Task Force” is asking for. This is issue is about who gets the wrath of Zambians for misusing the money; is it the TF and their traditional supporters for all the billions spent under the guise of ‘fighting corruption’ or is the former first family for the created ‘perception’ now many are weary of, of their allegations of having “stolen”.

    But as everyone knows it appears the TF with all its support from abroad and from Govt will definitely not stop at anything regardless. Meantime our money is being shared just to pin one person come what may. As rational beings they want to continue being paid for a longer time, and so cases should not finish just now. They want the money from poor Zambians.

  28. wanyanya (30),
    I’m a strong believer of civil and individual rights of humanity. In that regard, i cannot force the comer mashina (27)to back-off despite my long presence here as the only SAGE. I do not hold any propriety rights to the any name and have no plans to curve in and switch to any other ID.Our only difference are that i’m a free minded blogger and based in the USA. I again i welcome him to the world of blogging.

  29. You people who are bothered by The Post why do you bother yourselves to read it or copy and paste some materials here. Reading through the the 2 editorials and that of Emily Sikazwe above, there is more sense and it is true FTJ victimized his opponents. Grabbed someone’s wife with stolen money. FTJ is just reaping what he sow and he deserves it.

  30. If you find the POST boring, why would you read it in the first place.
    why do you read it everyday? Do you enjoy boring things that much?
    I believe bloggers here are intelligent people, they can easily pick that it is hypocrisy of the worst kind to read a newspaper everyday and call it boring.

  31. #35&36 I have always said it but the courts should be careful to close these cases quickly because someone want us to pick weapons and start fighting each other while they mine the minerals. They have done it Congo up todate there is no peace there. Why cannt some bring here what Kaunda said about in the post today ” Keep your guns away, KK tells US
    ” This gones long way back from the day Kaunda, now Mwanawasa have allowed the east to mine the minerals at expense of the west. If you remember how many visitors from America has Zambia recieved starting from May 2007 now abruptly someone wants a military base in Zambia. Zambians stop recieve handouts they will bring you trouble. I want to fix the owner of this bloger but instead many like SAGE have turned the back against me and termed Nkole. Iam visionary I see things early and I analyse them thorough. Yesterday a friend from Darfur explained to me how the Darfur war started and the masterminders.

  32. Hey #43! Correct. What I get from the sentiments, it’s not actually “boring” but it is “hate” for Fred M’membe for reminding us of injustices inflicted upon all those mentioned in the Editorials. It’s not boring, it’s true and hurts.

  33. Hey #37! Correct. What I get from the sentiments, it’s not actually “boring” but it is “hate” for Fred M’membe for reminding us of injustices inflicted upon all those mentioned in the Editorials. It’s not boring, but it’s true and hurts.

  34. #36 GLUCO, is ZAMNET under fire from Cyberwar because it is always down, which means other websites which are linked to it are also down.

  35. Wherever two or more persons are engaged in any common enterprise or pursuit, there is always danger of difference of opinion. If it be a public trust or office, in which they are clothed with dignity and authority, there is peculiar danger of personal emulation and even animosity. From either, and especially from all these causes, the most bitter dissensions are apt to spring. Whenever these happen, they lessen the respectability, weaken the authority of either, and distract the plans and operation of those whom they divide.

  36. Men often oppose a thing, merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike. But if they have been consulted, and have happened to disapprove, opposition then becomes, in their estimation, an indispensable duty of self-love. They seem to think themselves bound in honor, and by all the motives of personal infallibility, to defeat the success of what has been resolved upon contrary to their sentiments.

    Men of upright, benevolent tempers have too many opportunities of remarking, with horror, to what desperate lengths this disposition is sometimes carried, and how often the great interests of society are sacrificed to the vanity, to the conceit, and to the obstinacy of individuals, who have credit enough to make their passions and their caprices interesting to mankind.

    Perhaps the question now before the public may, in its consequences, afford melancholy proofs of the effects of this despicable frailty, or rather detestable vice, in the human character we are seeing when the law is justifiably put to action.

  37. Chiluba is a stinking thief and had I been the cop presiding over his stolen wife’s arrest, I would have kicked him so hard in the groin the moment he ushered himself in a cell toilet reserved for women. Maybe Levy was right ka, Chiluba is his sister because why else would the ka chap dive into a women’s cell? The policeman shouls have undressed him to see the genetalia between him legs.

    As for all the Katangese of the Changwe type shedding tears here for their stinking kith and kin, mwanya, we do not want stealing in this country, go back to Katanga where stealing is an entrenched “kaca”, here tou steal you will see the inside of a jail.

  38. Easy! Welcome back. Of course we cannot confide in America. Look at the harm they did to our nation through their projects under IMF. Now they want to bring their base here. That is occupation which their so called terrorist are trying to resist. Whoever opposes them is a terrorist. About ZAMNET, it should be under Cyberwar.

  39. #22. I don’t understand how we have allowed Fred M’membe to be insulting people like this! I also do not think this kind of language is allowed in journalism. May this profession has no ethics. If this man is motivated by tribalism, he might end up planging the country into chaos. Can he be removed from the editorship of POST?

    Because this Regina case is very clear for any one to see that there is something seriuosly wrong with DPP. 6 yrs done the line, you are still aresting and re-aresting. Shame! Stop troubling people. Fred stop insulting people, please grow.

  40. Sophist! You seem to be speaking in riddles. It takes a psychologist to get what you write. Could you please simplify your writings.

  41. Justice is essential to the protection of the have nots like the haves long denied their heritage by thieves that reigned; it is not less essential to the steady administration of the laws; to the protection of property against those irregular and high-handed combinations which sometimes interrupt the ordinary course of justice; to the security of liberty against the enterprises and assaults of ambition, of faction, and of anarchy.The current resolve is part of value system, which is not without its advocates.

  42. Let go regina.last week i so regina being released from her case,why should the DPP arrest her again.I think as a country we are still taking a wrong direction as justice is concerned.Its a pity to know that people who have done law there seem to be missguiding the public.If people have issues to sort out why can’t there sit down as elders.I appeal to kk,ftj,lpm,the post and all the politician to sit and forgive each other.Instead of development people are busy pointing fingers at each other.why?Lpm,Dpp,courts,politicians are all part of the stolen money,who do you think will fight who?Mandela once said,lets put everything to rest and work to develop our cuntry.What are the zambians saying?

  43. Maureen Mwanawasa should be apprehended for using ZAF helicopters for personal errands in the countryside. These errands are disguised as NGO work.

  44. “Shaka Zulu” are you a Bushman?? Or perhaps you are an austrolopithecus – What has katangese descent done to your personal being that you shud be so foul against them?? If you are man enough, feel free & take on chiluba face to face – otherwise , just keep you tiny tail, or sorry is it the organ you keep, between you legs!

  45. Chapi ,Kuku, EASY, Ba Jose, Pundit,Gluco,Sophist,CV,HK,KC and all of you great minds in the blog. If with great pain that i have decided to change my ID to TRUE-SAGE. Those of you like Chapi who have known me as SAGE for mothan 15 years understand how painful this is. But i can not promote the abuse or confusion that goes with shared IDs i will use TRUE-SAGE until i develop a blog for you guys just give me the input on what you want to be in on the blog and probably we can elect one or two individuals to administer the blog.

  46. Secrets, Zambia is superior than any individual including the presidence. The same way we demanded for Chiluba and his thieveing cronies to be prosecuted. We will not hesistated to do that to Mwanawasa and maureen should need arise. We the people want our nation to maximize on what it has to develop.

  47. Do we really need a completely new constitution? I think as a nation we know the trouble some areas in our constitution. Like for instance Nolle nonsense. This provision perpetrates ineptitude and pure abuse of power and violation of human rights under the guise of the law. section 250(b) has costed Zambia a lot of money. This same clause allows for the DPP and Task force to arest and drag someone to court without evidence hoping they will stumble on some evidence along the way. And if they dont, they can just invoke section 250(b) and re arest you as they keep looking for evidence. Think this is one of the many bad laws we have that needs immediate attention. We should put a law that will force our inept prosecutors to do their job before arresting anyone. In USA the DA will not charge you if they are not sure of a convition. Make no mistake where human beings are , there is miscourage of justice. But The system should not allow for someone to be charged twice for the same crime.

  48. Easy, I have been wondering about ZAMNET too. I can’t also access Times of Z although I am surprised that I have been accessing Z Daily Mail.

  49. SAGE, Our prosecution is incompetent and some of them corrupted by Chiluba regime to omit or under prosecute. The DPP enetered the Nolle fimo fimo, so that the evidence could still be used. If the case went ahead the way it was, Regina would have been found not guity on technical grounds.
    I just enyoy seeing these Chiluba and his cronies suffer.This is a lesson to all those who would have Chiluba as their role model. Zambia is safe that way by keeping these thieves out of our economy.

  50. #52TRUE-SAGE.Quickly come up with a blog that will instill sanity unlike what LT has allowed for far too long on their blog.Only last week we had a major protest by bloggers about impersonators and it had to take concerned individuals to spin this arround and rebuke those using insults that the traffic came back up.Let us know when you`re ready with a non aligned or neutral blog which will have elected administrators so that we can put the final nail in this LT coffin.

  51. HK.. I think the issue here is not FTJ but the waste of money and abuse of power. If they didnt have evidence why didnt they first investigate and based on evidence then prosecute. Do you know how many Nolles the DPP has entered since the begining of LPM era? Do you how much it costs to go through with a case for 2 years and then enter a Nolle. I believe in Justice, but the bluntant abuse of authority can not go un challenged.If FTJ was a thug in his dealings. That doesnt mean we have to be thugs in dealing with him. We as a nation should not allow to be held captive by people we put in authority. We should always challenge such draconian laws.

  52. #52 True SAGE, I have been think about a new blog much better than this because the administrator doesnt care so long he get money thru adverts that run on this page. I watched the traffic of adverts you know, nowonder his firm is called hashcode (z)ltd. I didnt want to review this Iam just forced to because he has lived up to expectation. He is forgetting that money is not everything. One who has pipo around him can survive. KC has talked about a new blog its real a good idea. I hope pipo like Kuku will one day come back and lead the way for the development of our nation. We need patriotic Zambians who cherish their own soil and protect it and who are read to help Zambians live a better life.
    #55 Visionary I dont think Daily mail and Times of Zambia have the same ISP. In most case Daily is active just give me minutes I will will tell you who is the provider. You in Zambia we have 5 or 7 ISP.

  53. “CHILUBA SHOULDN’T USE REGINA’S CASE TO ATTRACT SYMPATHY – EMILY”

    Whose sympathy? Do you not have other things to do Emily or are you, like Mmembe, fixated with Chiluba?
    Get a life, woman.

  54. For all this furor and hulaboo where did Regina then Mrs Eddie Mwanza get money to buy eleven upmarket houses in Ndola.The only business she was involved in was selling nshima with chifu at some companies.
    Can she please explain.

  55. I think we are in agreement on the need for a blog. I need input.Any name suggestions??? Dont worry about hosting. My company will provide that for free. But we will need administrators. I dont think i will have time to administer the site.

  56. Whether its Chiluba or Mwanawasa we will get any thief. Yes indeed where did Regina get the money from? But Cabbage should also know we are just waiting for him to leave then we shall have the power to arrest him over those pending cases. I also notice he has got a Sally Mugabe for a wife!

  57. Colleagues i couldnt agree more with #58. This is the whole point most haters are missing. Instruments of law are not at the disposal of serving politicians to abuse as they wish. We all hate many of the things taat happened especially after 1995. But we cant sink so low as to repeat the methods used to serve political appetites under FTJ.

    Finally, in civilized law the burden of proof lies squarely with the accuser, not the accused. And i think this is the best form of justice, otherwise we would have politicians locking up people and asking them to prove things they never committed. And take away the presumption of innocent until proven guilty-by the accuser ofcourse. So it’s just sheer stupidity, to put it mildly, to ask Regina or anyone to prove her source of wealth for buying property. Let the govt prove their case. No mater how people hate FTJ, Regina is innocent until govt can prove her otherwise.

  58. hey #49, blanket forgiveness like you suggest is NOT the solution. Forgiveness goes with restitution, all the Zambians are asking the thieves is to turn back what they stole. Its in the interest of justice to fight the plunders tooth & nail no matter the cost, this will save as a loud warning for any future or even the current govt. Consider the future when you make your judgments…

  59. #61 Brother dont worst your pecious time to explain this ,I think we need a blind man to see all this coz those with eyes are unable to see.Who was Regina before? Can someone with a wrong sympathy defend?Some of you just defend what you dont know.we have known this money loving woman for a long time now.Iam a Ndola dweler.

  60. #65 read what #64 has just posted. The biggest issue here is the intepretation an implementation of the law.You cannot drag someone to court for 2 years without evidence to secure a conviction. Why didnt they enter a Nolle a year ago? That could have saved us atleast K10B. If regina is guilty let the prosecutors do their homework , do a thourough investigation and then go to court. You may be mislead beliving people are enjoying seeing the FTJs suffer. But the truth of the matter is people have lost confidence in our legal system. It looks like if Nkole doesnt like you he can just drag you to court and enter a nolle after 2 years. People are seeing the Nchitos and anyone invoved in the prosecutors as legal plunderers of our resources. All of a sudden Nchito owns an airline, National milling etc at the expense of development. We may have different opinions on this. But Zambia is under seig by professional plunderers.

  61. Your own task force is failing to prove that these people stole, 5 years and billions of kwacha paid to incompetent prosecutors, and still counting. And the accused are saying they didnt steal. There’s nothing blind about this assessment. We just want a sober, competent and fair dispensation of justice to an acceptable standard. LET THE TASK FORCE PROVE THAT THEY STOLE. This is all there’s to it. This is law, the politics are another matter. Being a neighbor of someone doesnt make you a competent judge. Easy for me to understand that people Regina’s neighbors can be jealous of her success. Happens in many places.

  62. #65 Hey bauze baveele, walanda God doesnt differentiat if you steal a penny or Millions still its a sin in the eyes of mankind and God. I have seen a double person like this former president who claims to know the real thieves but he will prefer to be located up on their behave. Mr. Titus how can we forgive you like this you are not living up your pronounced christianity. Remember the devil like using such pipo who sucumble to him. Spill the bean what are you waiting next time children will come and undress you in public. Ask Kaunda he knows this better. We have waite for long of justices very soon we shall sue all those involved in this case for misuse of public funds. Can you imagine what happpened at UTH where a police officer Sakala beat up a nice because lack of medicine and medical personel. This is disgrace if children can die when their lives could be saved. Gentlemen tomorrow it will be your own child. Just imagine you and visit Zambia and saddenly yr kid gets sick

  63. #69 Francis, I dont know the background of Regina, but Iam skeptic if a woman leaves his husband for another man which actually a sin and society doesnt torelate this. This Regina was not a divorced woman at the time she started dating Titus. What kind of morals are these and you want our children as rolle model I doubt if many will accept this.

  64. #70 EASY… The onus is on the prosecutors to investigate and prove regina or FTJ are thieves. We are not asking for anyone to forgive FTJ or Regina. We demand justice not persecution. 6 years later we are having nolles everywhere. If you cant find evidence in 6 years you cant find it in 100 years. In Law its not what you know that counts. Its what you can prove beyond any reasonable doubt. That is what Nkole and the Nchitos have failed to do. No Doubt regina was a nobody before she met FTJ. No doubt LPM was broke before FTJ woke him up to be president. FTJ and camp have alleged that they paid FRA K250M LPM owed it. But no one can prove that. so its a dead story. There is no law in Zambia that requires people not keep huge sums of money in homes. bearing that in mind.its safe to say you can not determine someones wealth by looking at their bank account. Taks force has to prove that money moved from GRZ to Regina. You and know that. But can we prove it.

  65. In Australia, we now have a new website for the Zambian Community in Victoria. Unfortunately, I failed to put the website address on this forum. But anyone who is interested can email [email protected] or [email protected] to request the website address. Register and let us discuss on different issues without insults or impersonating others.

  66. #71 The issue hear is how the Task force is handling the cases wether regina is guilty or not. We are not discussing moral issues. how and why Regina left Mwanza we dont know and it has nothing to do with the case before the courts of law

  67. Legally, there is nothing wrong with the nolle.Did you say it was abused? Actually, the tone of the task force is on the confident side now. They saw, they were loosing the case and they had to use the nolle to mete justice on Regina.It is clear it is them who will do the proving, whilst she defends.
    About the nolle costing 10 billion or causing such loss to govt, it could be fair to discard such statements as blind speculation.

  68. Its likely she started dating FJT before she divorced but its all speculation and is boring to me. But how many women have left husbands for money elsewhere? We haven’t heard much at all about Levy’s divorce and subsequent marriage to Maureen. And KK’s misdemeanors with you know whom. FTJ holds no monopoly of infidelity. I do sympathise with Mwanzas family.

    We obviously dont know the cost of these legal proceedings but i would actually think K10 billion is on the left hand side of the true cost. We can however make the conclusion that this has turned out to be a costly enterprize with v.little public good in it. The ill qualified task force members and the independent prosecutors at the centre of these FTJ cases are only too happy see their gravy train roll on willy-nilly like an unstoppable band wagon. But honestly 6 years on, most sober minded zambians are now just so sick of it and would rather those resources went somewhere else.

  69. SAGE, The value of justice can easily be overlooked and overcosted if you use finite figures like K10billion in legal fees. The govt and the State have a moral duty to arrest and prosecute a crime with a statistical small financial value, to avoid future huge entropics crime. The value of Justice is the benefit you reap in crime avoidance. No future president or namakwenkwe will ride the crest of crime after this prosecution. Crime does not pay, if you are not imprisoend, you become discredited. whichver way it suits our nation

  70. There you go again, you are bored but you keep talking about the same thing. Is boring the word really? Irritated in my view would be more appropriate for you.
    6 years is nothing, if you heard about cases such as Pinochet’s.
    Why are the ‘sober’ minded zambians getting sick, if they are not on the benficiary side of the alleged plunder? My view is Zambians who care about justice,are more concerned about the money stolen than the money used to recover it.

  71. #77 I agree with your last 2 sentenses. but i disagree with your overall point of view. What we are asking for is the prosecutors to do their homework. At the moment it doesnt look like we have people investigating the crime before doing an arrest. I they have evidence why would they drug a case for 2 years and then enter a nolle? On the cost involved, K10B is an estimate. But look at what is involved in prosecuting a case of that maginitude for 2 years. remember despite regina being re arrested GRZ has to pay her legal costs for the previous 2 years she spent going to court. in other word we will have to pay Sangwa. And if this doesnt materialise we will have to pay her again. personally i dont care much about Regina or FTJ but i’m concerned about the procedeings. Since vendeta is our political game. Let LPM prey that who ever becomes presida is an outsider. If one of the politicians gets the Job , he is in for a ride.

  72. Tribalists in the name of UPND have started regrouping thinking they can rule Zambia – Never because Sata has more chances as evidenced by his huge taiwanese funding.

  73. #76 We cant over look this it will scort both Titus and Regina into their graves. Historian say know your past, present then you can have a future. So to igorne Reginas adultery behave it will be very difficlut to find justices actual Mr. Mwanza must have use this opportunity joint complainter the law allows this this must have helped the law enforcing wings fix FTJ. He is a let down, I remind reading him in school as a patriotic Zambian. Sage the problem in this case charging the accussed with wrong cases hence the rearrest. Remember all those motor vehicle cases instead of charging pipo like Sata who testified in court of that he(SATA) was instrument in give Levy 150 cars for campaing in 2001. You see now where we are heading to too. Iam faling to understand why pipo born in 30, 40,50 are so corrupt. This is the generation that has killed us.

  74. I think the case Mutembo Nchito is making through post is that is the genius and best suited to handled the case. By the way some of these editorials in the post are written by Mutembo Nchito. In a way its ironic because the former DPP did not believe that mutembo nchito had the necessary experience or the capacity to prosecute for the government and initially alot of cases were bangled up. As usual Mutembo Nchito ralied back through the post and prevailed at the expense of a qulified DPP.

    Therefore, the post has really lost the moral right to champion this fight, they have too much financila interest in the case. Mutembo is a shareholder in the post.

  75. True-SAGE, you seem lost in your justification of discontinuity of cases. These cases are complex and complicated. While conviction is our desire, some of these characters have a far wide network of which some exist on this blog defending them.
    I earlier said, this war is not for Mwanawasa and the MMD, We the people of Zambia (excluding thieves, beneficiaries and sympathizers) who are in the majority with backing of the Post started this fight and we shall complete the fight whatever govt comes in. Ascendnace to future Zed presidence has just gotten tough and We shall defend our Nation till it is safe for our future generation

  76. Guys,the cases are dragging for a simple reason.There is curruption also amongst the lawers themself.These lawers know what Kafupi is worth. So all what they are up to, is to milk Kafupi to his last hidden token.Kafupi should just surrender the monies before it goes upto his genuine savings.

  77. Why is corruption, at least reported corruption, increasing while FTJ is being prosecuted and humuliated, if the suggestion of a deterrent effect holds. While the cases are complex, the main point is the incompetence of Nchito and task force. Some people pointed out that none of them are qualified to handle this, but in Zambia that statement means little. So here we are. Nchito’s got away with at least K5 billion we know of officially as at end of 2004, while development projects in Milanzi constituency which arguably have a greater deterrent effect on future corruption are ‘valued’ at K60 million per year. And Ndola District Health Management Team gets K1.6 Billion to operate health services to its 450,000 residents. I doubt that we can defend this as sensible use of public money.

  78. #83 Do you even read what i posted before launching an attack. I have not at any point asked for GRZ to discontinue the prosecution. All i have said is that the preosecutors are proving to be incompetent.If the didnt have evidence why didnt they enter a nolle a year ago. You will see what will Happen with Malila next week. He will enter A nolle. Its in the best interest of the nation to prosecute and either convict or aquite. But its not in our interest to have protracted court cases that end up in a Nolle. Nkole should have allowed the judge to aquit regina and he could have arrested her on new charges. but to most people this looks like a big circus.

  79. Francis/SAGE: There is no increase in corruption. The facts are that, the system is now becoming transparent and acts of corruption are being reported compared to the previous regime which embarced and concealed acts of corruption. In the FTJ govt, Kafupi used to dare the ACC and the citizens to bring evidence whenevr they complained.. Now, even the Auditor General books find themselves in the press and follow up is made. We are yet to reach the levels where the response time to corruption report immediate. But I am happy that the process, systems and our people are awakening and beleiving in themselves not in a corrupt regime like which FTJ presided on.input

  80. If you read correctly, I did indicate that at least reported corruption has increased. You and I dont know whether the underlying corruption has increased or not. But we DO KNOW this: corruption is still rampant under Levy as it was before him. The TI corruption index for Zambia has increased not decreased. The President mentioned a list of people connected to the K36 trillion saga at MOF half a year ago and nothing has come of it in the courts. I dont know whether you talking politics but am not.

  81. Francis, impressed is not a quantitative value, therefore degree of satisfaction depends on prior experience. Since I was subjected to the most corrupt, evil and *****ic regime which ever walked on this blessed land of ours, A little mwanawakwi, is doing when we expected the worst is a bonus to most of us. We are not there, but we shall get there.

  82. Ba Chapi (57),
    Now i believe the words of the wise you refuted that LT is in the Graveyard? Anyway that is typical of us all flip floppers.LT died long time ago hence jammed by fiwele wele posting rhetoric on issues they have no basic knowledge about. Just look at how the Nolle prosequi has confused them. Regina is a thief and the used strategy of withdraw and rearrest is in the best interest of National justice and within the existing legal clause signed by Chiluba over the 10 years.Even on the many blogs so far and the one i’m trying to come with, the challenge remains getting traffic from smart and deep rooted bloggers. Otherwise its the same half full ignorant tribal peddlers.

  83. HK, the TI corruption index is based on perceptions of people living in Zambia on how they feel about corruption at a point in time. And the people are far less optimistic than you suggest. Most of the cases being reported are a high profile nature but the people who regularly interact with our public institutions know that nothing much is changing. We dont need to know our altitude above sea level to know whether we are ascending or descending!

  84. SAGE, feel free to set your own blog and your own agenda. LT came to our rescue when ZOL went bonkers. We stay with LT for now and for free. I am sure the LT deserves some kudos for keeping it real.
    Remember to say Good bye.

  85. Francoise, I am sure you overstand Change management principles and resistnace to change. Corruption became one of the things to do from 1992 to 2001.Basicaly it became a culture. There is even a song to emotise it(nchekele Ko). When there is an explosion and flames, you need excess Water and Ant-Oxidant to quench the flames if you have to save somthing. our country went ablaze and the cost of salvaging and re-building is immense.

  86. Agree with you 100% on that. My disappointment is with the failure to execute the fight despite the talk. Corruption has a slightly longer history than you give it, understably biased by your passionate FTJ hatred. We had those dealers with brief cases at Finance and everywhere in 1986. We had corrupt appointments into parastals and vigilante syndrome. It was operating under commandist structure at freedom house but it existed. Under FJT all things were liberaized, including the institution of corruption. Economic hardships and other things have made it appear like FJT per se caused more corruption. I spare him abit of blame. Corruption is abit like prostitution, you know what am saying.

  87. I DID NOT POST #92 What is going on in this blog?
    Well maybe some people cant create an image of their own so they have to copy other peoples IDs

  88. #92 VETERAN/NGUGI.Stop impersonating the TRUE- SAGE.Don`t you know that what you`re doing is illegal?TRUE-SAGE and Francis,you`re right on the money by pointing out how incompetent these prosecutors have been and the fact that there`re just simply syphoning public funds in the disguise of prosecution.That`s why this can arguably be termed as simply PERSECUTION and not prosecution.One of the interested parties who`s a fellow blogger and goes by the ID of FACT(he`s one of the witness/weakness) will give us and idea of how much has been abused and SYPHONED in this PERSECUTION(prosecution).

  89. #98 to be fair I actually read that much earlier it just sounded totally out of sync with your earlier contributions both in terms of content and style. Its quite easy to tell who’s pretending. I wonder what the intention is but I also feel this’s got too far.

  90. SAGE,EASY or any other computer experts on the blog.How long would it take for you guys to come up with a functional blog?We`re absolutely tired of this mess of impersonations.We`ve warned LT for too long and they don`t seem to care.Let us know how soon that can be done so that we can leave KABASO alone on his blog that`s got no control.

  91. #94 HK its not about setting an agenda. Its about bringing civility to the blog where people can debate without anyone mis representing them.
    Chapi it can be done in 2 weeks. But we need comitment on the administrators and also some volunteers to administer the site. Ngugi can just come back and start contributing instead of impersonating me.

  92. #102 TRUE-SAGE.Go ahead and start setting that up as felLow bloggers deliberate on the administration issue.I think we`ll have more than enough volunteers interested in bringing sanity on the blog.A login system will put an end to impersonations.

  93. Got you Chapi!! Since Ci Kuku, Ci Veteran,Ka Lifa, Ba AM and Ka Joze are in their Graves, may you sanitize your soul from the insults we have known you for under mutations? Help me set up the agenda for the new blog. You know blogs our intertainment places we the bored diasporans though thieve are sharing the spoils at home. I wish i was worth any idea of ending these thieves’s reign from power. For now helpless i will keep blogging as my only relief valve.

  94. Chapi,
    Please tell me what clause of the law i could use to prosecute my impersonator. Please do it now maybe we could make some instant cash.

  95. Chapi,
    One more thing, we need to come up with better ideas to make our blog worth the dream considering that their more than 25 Zambian blogs on the internet so far. LT has been compromised from its initial pro PF dream. We need to come up with a 4 layer security blog were even professional institutions should struggle to decode and break in.By the way UKZambians was hacked yesterday despite its security layers. This Generation has too many criminals abusing their talent. Pentagon was for one week brought done by some Chinese Kids too.

  96. #107 BOTRO.Just ignore that spineless loser who`s even scared of his own shadow and lacks simple guts to bring up any points under his own ID.LT is going to pay dearly for being so inept and careless.

  97. number 80….! continue living in denial..come 2011..UNDP/UDA shall previal? Sata is a finished old man (last kicks of a dying horse)..what has he to offer! the old man just wants a hefty retirement package!It is our turn to rule! chiindi …chasika..our time in now…kuyuma muma badala! viva southern power viva HH….umuchende..umulombwana..umusune..tongabull…we are behind you!

  98. REAL-SAGE
    Real Sage u ve posted somewhere that in the US the DA can not charge u unless they have a case,please do not forget the duke univesity student and john carr that guy they picked from indonesia last year.I do not support the use of nollie prsecue for settling old scalls but I cant stand this over worship of the west.I live in the states and I see how thier legal system sacks.How can we explain the release of paris hilton from prisom.We have the system that is working but its not perfect just like any system in the world.Sage continue putting constuctive ideas but don’t put down your country unneccessarily.

  99. I agree with HK that the post Newspapers do not have the moral justification to carry this corruption crusade whilst helping their partner Mutembo earn so much of our money through these crooked up cases. How many of these cases have Mutembo successfuylly prosecuted so far? Can somebody inform me!!!

  100. I agree with those that say that the post Newspapers do not have the moral justification to carry this corruption crusade whilst helping their partner Mutembo earn so much of our money through these crooked up cases. How many of these cases have Mutembo successfuylly prosecuted so far? Can somebody inform me!!!

  101. Iwe ci TrueSAGE #104 who told u we are in Graves, Niwe ci KOLOKOMBWA. Dont you know that we have better things to do (that is making money at Kulima tower, intercity and main masala) than bloging with foolish people like u. We dont have time to waste with IMIMBULU like u who does nothing all day long, other than insulting and impostering others. Go to hell and stop mentioning our names in vain. Dont u know that come 2011 we are ur future leaders, the presido being KUKU, veep Ba Jose, thats why we busy compainging underground. Be sensible man.

  102. For record purposes i did not post # 115. That is a crap piece of some impersonator. I maybe at Kulima tower and inters, but would never waffle that the confused kuku is any closer leadership material but blogging rhetoric with here.My last post was # 104.LT do something o this impersonating business. I know its Chapi doing it since challenged pali bunamakwenkwe after years of being our fellow PF cadre, he has suddenly renounced to a neutral blogger. I will not stop at the truth Ba Chapi you have defected from PF for the wilderness.Ine niba Presido Sata.

  103. Its me who posted in #115 the original AM the kaponya boy at kulima tower, who went kwa Mongu for business. U in #116 is an imposter who have no directing. I started using this ID long before u, stop blaming the poor chap Chapi becoz that ID my friend is mine. Ine niba Presido Kuku.

  104. Its me who posted in #115 the original AM, the kaponya boy at kulima tower, who went kwa Mongu for business. U in #116 is an imposter who have no directing. I started using this ID long before u, stop blaming the poor chap Chapi becoz that ID my friend is mine. Ine niba Presido Kuku.

  105. Christopher Mundia is a thief, he needs to refund US$20,000 per month he was receiving. He knew he could not do the job why was he contracted by Nkole? I am sure it is nicheleko attitude like we saw at DEC.

  106. For record purposes i did not post # 118 either. That is a crap piece of some impersonator.Certaiinly my lingo would not bluff like what i quote below “#116 is an imposter who have no directing”

    who have no directing?

    have no directing?

    no directing?????

    That is what impersonation can do to bamuposa mabwe.

  107. Mr Nkole should know by now that he is NOT spending money from his mother or father’s pockets. He needs to exercise financial prudence when paying his friends like Christopher Mundia US$20,000(Zmk90,000,000) per month for him just to waste time in court and get fat. This is daylight robbery which must challenged.

  108. Hey, HK. You have been coming out as if you are very sure AND you actually saw what you call plunderers stealing with your own eyes! Yet all the information you have is from newspapers, and mainly from M’membe who was once detained under the previous admin. You want to make us believe that ftj’s govt was more devilish than the other 2. But we do not have such newspapers information; We do not know how much was lost under KK or how is being lost (through theft) under LPM.

    Now as many people are saying, the way these cases have been treated is not good. Suppose chiluba never stole anything and that Nawakwi, M’membe, and others started to acuse ftj of stealing as a way of fighting “3rd term”. And that lpm wanted polical support after lossing to Mazoka in 2001. Do you see how “unfair” the treatment ftj has gone through.

    If you Hey, HK, are accused of stealing and 6 yrs the accuser does not prove it, how would you feel?

  109. #122 stop, who have delaying the case for sick 6 years. Dont forget this Anonymous, the case just took cause this year after FTJ exposed himself by talking to the media about the london judgement. Remember the two key witness ran away or you have forgotten about this. Where is Shashonga and Chungu. The problem I have is with Anglo Saxons over ther double standards. They banked the money in their banks and they are keeping the accused. If they were serious they would have helped investigations. How many pipo have they arrested because they didnt like them.

  110. Gentlemen Christopher Mundia has been paid US$20,000 per month just to seat and get fat. This should be classed as plunder where him and Nkole are cunning and camouflaged as fighting for poor people. If Mundia has a conscious he needs to surrender those funds otherwise when MMD loses the elections in 2011 and another Party takes over the instruments of Government, he will be arrested together with Nkole.

  111. $20,000.00 x 24 months = $480,000.00 syphoned by one incompetent prosecutor.The Nchito brothers is another story.This is daylight robbery and no one seems to stop such theft that these crocks are committing with such impunity.VJ is still at morningside because the government has no money to buy equipment so that those procedures can be done at UTH.How long are we going to be falling for such lies and abuse of public funds?These are the concerns we`ve been raising and our only hope is that LPM for once can learn how to manage our resources with some brains.

  112. LPM is an accomplice to these thefts because despite the immerse cost to a fruitless and unscrupulous prosecution; he has done nothing to remove Nkole or Mundia. Mr Mundia needs to urgently return those “stolen” funds because keeping those proceeds is like participating in an armed robbery.

  113. Ba Chapi (125),
    Kwena muli bamachona kukalale ka.How do you manage to blog with that ignorance or should i say lack of data? Does Zambia got three VJs? I ask because the two VJs senior and junior we all know of have been in Lusaka playing Golf and having some good beer times with company at the Lusaka flying club every weekend. Infact last week VJ junior even won the Rotary of Roma township chapter Presidency. So which VJ has been stuck beyond the 2 weeks at SA’ Morningside? Too much ignorance in public affairs writes you off in the minds of serious people. To be silent is not a weakness than ukabwabwata in a vacuum of knowledge.

  114. #127.FACT.Excuse my typing error but I am sure you know what I meant.The time he spent at morningside clinic at taxpayer expense just like when they send FTJ.You know that these people are in and out of hospital so one can even lose track.I wish you can pass an equal and prompt response to the abuse of public funds by your MMD heroes.

  115. Gule wa mukulu (126),
    You mean returning the funds to the Donors? But i thought Donors have their competent and well informed officials in Lusaka.They have so far been very content with the way their funds are spent to the extent of more support trickling in. Just this week I have had some important talk with the attaches in the Swedish and Netherlands Embassies instrumental in support.The are very satisfied and with access to the budget. Maybe you engage them them to learn their views.The Task Force’s budget is donor supported.

  116. #77 When i suggested that K10B of tax payers money has been wasted on regina’s Nolle you said that an exagaration. Well Mundia gets $20,000.00 a month. GRZ has to pay Simenza’s bill and also all the costs the Chilubas have encoured over the last 24 months. Do the math we are talking well over K10BN. Just Mundia’s pay is about K2.4BN. This kind of money can build 10 schools. Now that she has been re arrested we have to wait for another 2 years for a Nolle another K10BN down the drain. I have a question, is there any bemba lawyers contracted as private prosecutors by the task force or its all in the family tree.

  117. Guest 129 – Are you suggesting that Donors are happy with incompetent prosecutions because that Regina case collapsed in full view of Mr Mundia while he pocketed a lot of $$$$$$$$$$$$$. Shouldn’t some of those donors find more respectable occupations – like armed shoplifting and blackmail?

  118. #130 TRUE-SAGE.I thought at first that you were kind of exagerating when you came up with more than KI0 BILLION as funds that have been syphoned by these DEMAGOGUES but unfortunately you were right.

  119. # 130,
    Stop aligning my name to your tribalism. What is so special with the so called Bemba? Is it a mandatory that all national affairs must involve Bembas you fool? Zambia is not bemba. There many things we could do better without your Bemba. No wonder you have no morals or values but every day sinking deeper and deeper with your useless Bemba cause instead of National cause. Tribalism will take you no where i warn you.Stop tarnishing my TRUE-SAGE ID with your stinking tribalism under despair shaaah!!

  120. #132 Chapi …. I have an ear to the ground. I got people. We need info like this to be coming out so that people can know how much its costing them. I dont know how people are going to feel when they realise that getting a TV from Regina has costed them K20BN and she still has the TV. Someone yesturday pointed out that even in the US there is abuse of law eg the lecrose case. I do agree with that , but in USA there are consequenses that follow abuse of power eg Nifong has been “disbard” and he is going to jail for withholding evidence. Another thing you should know is that DAs are elected by people. When you mess up you can even be impeached. but in Z there is no recourse. GRZ looses and people continue sufering. Thats why i say these are areas we should forcus on when drafting the new constitution. There is just too much power vested in the DPP that has to be checked.

  121. Gule wa mukulu (131),
    When donors are not satisfied with anything where their country support goes to, they withdraw support. But more support is a sign of confidence. Their country missions are full of professional staff with specialization in areas of interest. If anything the nolle prosequi and rearrest was a very noble strategy using technicalities to get a better grip of the process where blunders were made. Regina has a very strong case to answer and will be prosecuted though they mishandled the case in the first trial.

  122. #135 You can not describe inconpetence as noble. There is no technicalities to justify ineptitude. Mundia should have done his homework. If he had done his job professionally there would be need to enter a nolle and re arrest Regina for the same charges.

  123. Having donors fund the Task Force operations doesnt mean we should waste it. This is also what Vice President Nevers Mumba said about the K3 billion instalment fee paid to Nchito, that its donor money so who cares. Truth is this waste is displacing development resources somewhere. We cant afford to pay Mundia or even Task force Chair far more than the World Bank pays Nyanin. These lawyers are not proving worthy of this cost in my view.

  124. In the USA Padila accused of terrorism has been arrested and released for about three times. Right now he is under a long detention in the Federal jail under some protracted legal proceeding. This has happened to many people in the History of America despite the existence of the Bill of Rights. Some have even faced the rationally unfair judicial Review clause in the constitution while facing some court proceedings.

    The strategy of Nolle Prosequi and re-arrest of a suspect is very much consistent with some optional legal strategy were technicalities have been realized.Indeed Regina has a very strong case that the state should not fail to consolidate it and prosecute him her. They have mismanaged witnesses but it does not leave Regina with any space to win the case going by what i have seen and gone through.

  125. Francis(137),
    I like philosophical discourses. When you say “this waste is displacing development resources somewhere”.What do you mean when these donor funds are drawn from donors with the sole purpose of pursuing and fighting corruption? These are funds specifically donated to sustain the current proceedings at whatever cost in view of the risks involved. These are not development donated funds. Qualify your reasoning.

  126. What beggars belief is that Mundia can walk away with Hundreds of thousands of US$$$$$$$$$$ and yet the prosecution team will call on the same witnesses to testify. What hogwash is this?

    Mr Mundia is no different from a contractor failing to tar a feeder road properly. Should such a contractor be paid the full balance? If the answer is yes then Zambia has gone to the dogs. By way this money was NOT donated to Nkole and Mundia, it our money after all.

  127. #139 you raise 2 related important points. First of all its no secrete donors do have limited resources as well. Their international assistance is capped. Often, they may give money for whatever cause you claim resources are needed. They often shift across sectors and programs over time. Bottomline, displacement effect occurs because the Dutch embassy, EU or anyone else didnt go to increase their allocation for Zambia in order to fight a new problem of corruption. They get money originally intended for something else.
    Second, I dont agree that fighting corruption is worth any amount of resources. How can this position be justified? The best way to see this is, if we were using our own tax payers’ money, would we be paying Mundia et al that much money? If your answer, as i would assume, is No then we will never get of our troubles in Africa by continuing to pretend that someone will provide us a free lunch.

  128. Zambians so you mean Donors are give you these monies without benfits. I doubt and Iam disappointed becuase we dont learn lesson. We shall continue to be enslaved because such attitudes. How can a person who once held a position of vice president say anyway its donors money who cares. Somehow we are fit to be economical slaves. There is no country will give you handouts without interest. Just watchout time will come and we shall cry. When I see that the debts are again increasing for me this is a clear indication what to expect next.

  129. Our resources are in the hands of politicians who care less about the consequences of their decisions. And dont see the relative merits and demerits of their actions. If there was anything worth every penny in our coffers people would argue its health and possibly education. But the very fact that we accept to have babies and others dying of diseases which we could prevent with cheap technologies but unavailable at UTH and elsewhere means we believe that with the little money we have, not all lives are worth saving. Let some people die needlessly. To me this is a hard to accept but true inference from a decision to place such a premium on fighting corruption and subject other things to nature. Is legal fes to Mundia worth the total health care value of all 500,000 Ndola residents? Possible the politicians dont know this but this is raelity.

  130. To end these arguments, maybe the comments of GUEST should published in key Press in Europe to just see the reaction of taypayers there.

  131. Wrong conclusions from correct premises
    By Editor
    Wednesday September 05, 2007 Print Article Email Article

    THERE is no doubt that the prosecution counsel in the case of Regina Chiluba “displayed dangerous levels of incompetence and inefficiency”.

    And it is also true that this incompetence and inefficiency cost the Zambian taxpayer a lot of money. Court time was wasted and this was not without a cost. It costs a lot to have a matter heard in our courts of law. The time that was wasted on Regina’s case could have been used for other matters that could have helped decongest our prisons.

    It can also not be denied that Regina had incurred a cost in this matter, which no one will refund. She had to pay lawyers and meet travel costs to Ndola. All this could have been avoided if the prosecution counsel had been competent and capable of executing his duties in an intelligent, efficient and effective manner.

    We agree with Frederick Chiluba’s concerns over this inefficiency and its cost to the public, and indeed to his wife. He has also raised a valid question as to why those who engaged the prosecution counsel did not realise early enough that the matter was not being handled well and there was need to stop it and start afresh. It was clear from the very beginning that the prosecution counsel was not on top of the case, had little understanding of the matter and was an embarrassment to the state. Not every lawyer is good at everything; not every lawyer can be prosecutor.

    And for this reason, it is necessary for people to realise that they cannot do certain things; they are not good at certain tasks and leave things to those who are most competent. Yes, US$20,000 per month may be a lot of money by Zambian standards and those whose bearings are not clear may accept to do even what they can’t do to earn it. But this is not wise because the taxpayer, who is in the final analysis paying this bill, may raise questions. Wherever public funds are involved there has to be a high level of accountability; there has to be value for money.

    There is no good reason why the case of Regina should cost the taxpayer twice as much or more simply because the prosecution counsel who was engaged to deal with the matter was incompetent, was at sea.

    The Director of Public Prosecutions and others who were involved in engaging this prosecutor should make sure that he is not paid for that shoddy job and if he has been paid, there is need for a refund, for a recovery of what has been paid to him. And this should provide a clear lesson to all who are providing legal and other services to the state that the Zambian people will not accept daylight robbery where people earn a lot of money from the state without a corresponding quality service to the people.

    But we don’t think Regina and her husband’s concern and anger arise from the fact that public funds are being wasted in such inefficiently conducted prosecutions. Since when did this couple start to worry, start to be concerned about efficient, effective and orderly utilisation of public resources? If they were, they could not have indulged in such excessive, reckless and stupid abuse of public funds.

    A person who cares about public funds could not have done what Chiluba did with taxpayers’ money. He could not have spent over a million dollars of taxpayers’ money on personal clothes. There is no way a person who cares could have used public funds to do the things Chiluba did or is alleged to have done, which included buying girlfriends expensive properties and other things with money that belonged to the government.

    The concern of the Chilubas is not about the prosecution’s incompetence and inefficiency. They are disappointed that this incompetence and inefficiency has not led to the total collapse of Regina’s case – a result they badly wanted. What is annoying them is the state’s attempt to salvage this case, albeit doing so late.

    If this incompetence and inefficiency had led to Regina’s acquittal, they would have been very happy with it and would have celebrated such a result.
    A mistake was made in the recruitment of a prosecutor in this case. But this should not stop the state from correcting this mistake and saving what appears to be a good case that has been mishandled by an incompetent and inefficient prosecutor – a fact that even the Chilubas are admitting and are pointing out.

    They are agreeing that the prosecution counsel mishandled the case because he was incompetent and inefficient but at the same time they don’t want the state to take remedial measures and salvage the case. Why? This is because what they are interested in, what they wanted was not necessarily a competent and efficient prosecutor but the collapse of the prosecution case and the acquittal of Regina. This has not happened and today they are angry, bitter and disappointed.

    There is no persecution in all this. What was there, as the Chilubas have correctly observed, was an incompetently and inefficiently executed prosecution.

    There might not have been even the issue of public hatred by the prosecutor against the Chilubas as it is being claimed. This to us seems to have just been a sheer case of gross incompetence. Of course, it suits the Chilubas to claim there was hatred. They are fond of accusing everybody who supports their prosecution of hatred. People may not necessarily hate them to support their prosecution.

    All it needs for one to support their prosecution is to hate corruption, theft and abuse. That’s all it needs, and not personal hatred against the Chilubas. But how else can the Chilubas defend their crimes other than by smearing those who seek and support their prosecution with the filth of hatred and malice?

    As we have stated before, we agree that nolle prosequis have been abused in this country by all our successive governments. But they are perfectly legal albeit totally unfair. But what can one, including the courts of law, do if the process is unfair but legal?

    This is the law Chiluba found when he became president of the Republic of Zambia in 1991. He used it for ten years and had no problems with it, and he left it for his successor to use or rather abuse. This is the truth and this is the way things stand. And our position on this score, contrary to Chiluba’s claim, has not changed.

    We have never traded principles for convenience. We are among the very few in our country who have been able to defend their tormentors, people who were supposed to be their enemies. We have done more to defend Chiluba’s rights than he ever did for us. Even those with short memories know what Chiluba did to us. But we are still able to give him limitless coverage.

    Of course, we don’t praise him. Even when he was in power and many people were worshiping him and seeking all sorts of favours from him, we remained the most ardent and resolute critics of the crimes of his league. The problem with Chiluba is his inability to be honest and accept that he did wrong things; that he abused his office and public resources, that he stole taxpayers’ money.

    This is why he can claim that he made a lot of money from travel allowances as head of state and this is the money he used to do all sorts of things. One doesn’t need a lot of intelligence – if a little is all one has – to realise that this is a lie, a falsehood.
    Chiluba’s case against the prosecution counsel in Regina’s case is really one of wrong conclusions from correct premises.

    But there is something to be learnt in all this: let us use competent prosecutors. It shouldn’t be just a case of giving business to the friends of those in power.

  132. At the risk of sounding biased I fail to appreciate Mmembe’s journalistic skills again. The content of his editorial clears suggests the Chilubas are right in pointing out the incompetence of prosecution leading to inefficiency. This to me is the conclusion. And Mmembe agress its right. But then he titles his editorial as wrong conclusions from correct premise. Whats his premise? This is sinister, cheap journalism to say the least.

  133. If 75% of pipo are are unemployed, that means they live on less than one dollar per day. So we can calculate how could this monies improve the lives of individuals if utilised. $20 000 divided by 30 days you get $666,67 per day which is Kwacha eqavalent of K 2,680,013.40. So can see how many nurses can employed at UTH to cater for shortage of staff. This man who was once chairman of LAZ has to pay back part of this money for failing to live up to expectation or he must face arrest. This total abuse and daily lobbery of the need in society. Gentlemen this only happening in Zambia but why? We need a new law to determine what amount of money should a paid at each level of a case. This will bring competition and competence to the profession. This is very sad close this case soon if evidence is there.

  134. FACT says:

    Ba TRUE SAGE,
    Whatever you call yourself, I have just read through your question asking if there are any Bemba prosecutors in the on going anti-Grafti crusade in Zambia. I’m embarrassed with your blatant and foul tribal mess you carry though long exposed but empirically confirmed by time. Need to reveal that I have followed your illogical support of the Chilubas and unfruitful smear crusade for other tribes with much shame. I advise you to consider dropping the SAGE ID because you are a shame to any progressive Zambia integrated in the One Zambia one nation creed.
    Your sickness is no different from ba Shikulu ba Sata and all those tribalists we fought and defeated in the early 70s.In Kenya Moi has just denounce tribalits and maligned them in sudden preference of a nationalist Kibaki. In Zambia all tribalism has failed many potential politicians. UPND is in troubled waters because of that disease.MMD under Chiluba lost its grip because of tribalism perpetuated by ba Sata and Chitalu Sampa. Today the same Sata and Sampa heading PF have killed that viable party not on its way to Armageddon just like that.
    Read the headlines below from level headed Zambians. Tribalism and dictatorship can never deliver expectations.

    PF COUNCILLORS RESOLVE TO VOTE FOR UPND MAYOR
    PATRIOTIC Front (PF) Lusaka councillors on Wednesday resolved to vote for UPND candidate Jimmy Dons in today’s mayoral elections in protest against PF top leadership’s directive for them to vote for Stephen Chilatu as mayor. …

    LUSAKA COUNCILLORS, VOTE WISELY

    It seems the confusion that is rocking opposition Patriotic Front is starting to affect the running …

    MMD IS THE ONLY VIABLE PARTY, SAYS GEN TEMBO

  135. Who told you that 2011 will be a year of kaponyas? Its like you have eyes yet not believing that these MMD chaps are locked in a 27 year rule over Zed. Dream on brother its healthy in the Diaspora of stress.

  136. #148.I notice you`ve been MUTE and failed to respond to #151.Why do want to pretend to condem something you CONDONE.Cut the hypocricy and learn to be objective.Take off political lenses when analysis national issues.Whe are you guys going to have some principles to govern your lives?

  137. We shall lock up anyone syphoning money from the Task Force on Plunder.Come 2011 Mr Mundia and Nkole have to pay back.

  138. Brother Chapi (151),
    Your post is based on assumption without credible perspective of rationality. For years now I have known you for negativism, smear rhetoric and the push for distortions on fundamental premises in logical thought we consider unproven and unprovable.
    Please learn to stick to the rules of logic. You have enslaved yourself to medieval politics of nativists that has condemned you to irrelevancy. Don’t you realize that even your mind can understand the world better if independent of the observable and misfed phenomena?
    Rationalism in its normative approach could prove to you in the long run as the master you need to help learn ways of distinguishing your unsound thinking from sound claim you lack today.LPM relatives are Zambians. If they are educated and have skills, why not be considered for any public Job.
    In the USA a good number of Bush’s relatives are in the federal Government jobs. Just this summer his Nephew with a law degree abandoned his real estate Business and joined the Military Intelligence Services (Counter Espionage Unit). Have you ever head the civilized American politics making that as a political issue? Do you want the Mwanawasa family members never to apply for any Zambian jobs? You want them to look for jobs in Sudan?
    They are Zambians and deserve every Zambian dream like any other Zambian. Under UNIP we had the first full General Kingley Chikuli, Director General Malukutila, Brig.General Chintofwa, Philemon Ngoma, Malupande, Cosmas Chibanda (Home affairs Minister and Governor National Guidance), Pickson Chitambala (Minister Information), Late Chief Mushili (Masaiti Governor) and many more serving in high risky national jobs yet throughout that era you were quite but today it’s a crime in tribal sick head. That is rubbish.
    Those from the President’s clan if qualified, like any other Zambian they deserve to be considered for any job the recruiters find them good fits.

  139. #154 FACT/VETERAN.You seem to be confusing yourself in your desperate attempt to defend TRIBALISM and NEPOTISM.If Kaunda or FTJ practised any TRIBALISM or NEPOTISM,that doesn`t make it right for LPM to do the same.I never expected such shallow and primitive thinking to come from a civilised individual and as such I am even thinking that I am just wasting my precious time debating with you.You also want to bring BUSH (W) in this mess.I challenge you to give me a single person in W`s cabinet who`s part of the FAMILY TREE.Just for your own information,for someone to hold any key position in the federal gov,they undergo a screening process refered to as SENATE hearing to just find out how competent and qualified they`re and in laymans terms to simply cut off NEPOTISM.Do you think it`s SISALA`s competence that`s making him hold on to his ZESCO position or it`s his membership to the FAMILY TREE?I am sure you know that the list of INCOMPETENT FAMILY TREE members in endless.WAKE UP!!

  140. Chapi,
    No shame I’m a Bembalite like Ba Presido Sata. Is there my fellow Bemba involved in these multi-million Kwacha arrangements or it’s the usual family tree package I have been singing about?

    STATE INJECTS K37BN IN IDF
    By Times Reporter
    GOVERNMENT has launched the Irrigation Development Fund (IDF), with an initial injection of K37 billion, which is expected to revolutionise agriculture in the country.
    Agricultural and Cooperatives Minister, Ben Kapita, who launched the Fund yesterday, said the long-awaited programme was targeted at putting 70,000 hectares of land countrywide under irrigation and noted that the sector would never remain the same.

    Speaking during the launch of the IDF at farm number SD 51 of 28a Lusaka West, Mr Kapita said 75 per cent of the Fund had been set aside for small-scale and emergent farmers while the commercial farmers would get 16 per cent and nine per cent would go towards the equipment manufacturing and development.He was flanked by his deputy, Albert Mulonga, Permanent Secretary, Richard Chizyuka, Zambia National Farmer Union (ZNFU) president, Guy Robinson, and several other dignitaries.
    Mr Kapita said Government had deliberately put the initial interest rate for farmers who would access the loan under the Fund at nine per cent to make it affordable even to all farmers.

    He warned farmers against defaulting saying that anyone who would fail to pay back would incur an extra five per cent compound interest as a deterrent.Under the Fund, eligible farmers would borrow capital for acquisition of irrigation equipment and other requirements.

    Finance Bank would be the main administrator of the whole Fund but other banks would access it for onward disbursement to the farmers.“Since the launch in Lusaka of the pilot peri-urban irrigation development component of the IDF in September 2006, over 60 hectares of irrigated land has been recorded.“This response has made my ministry to seek ways of expanding the peri-urban irrigation initiative to cover other parts of the country,” he said adding that the programme would be extended to other towns.

    Transforming agriculture in Zambia called for broadening of innovations to cater for the entire sector and the IDF was one such innovation, he said.Mr Kapita said Government would not allow the Fund to go under like many had done in the sector and warned that all farmers found wanting would forfeit their assets, like cattle and tractors, to Government.

    He said the ZNFU was in the forefront advocating the establishment of the Fund and paid tribute to the officials for the persistence.He told the gathering that crop production should not be confined to the rain season alone, considering that Zambia accounted for 40 per cent of water resources in the region.

    He said irrigation development support was a top priority under the Fifth National Development Plan and it would be propelled by the IDF.Currently, irrigatable land was estimated at 425,000 hectares countrywide, out of which only 125,000 hectares or 25 per cent was under irrigation.

    Earlier, Mr Robinson welcomed the launch of the Fund and challenged all farmers, small and large, to take advantage of Government’s commitment to the sector.
    He said that irrigation was not only for commercial farmers and therefore small scale and emergent ones should engage themselves in the practice.Mr Chizyuka said the Fund was one of the long-awaited projects in the ministry and was happy that it had finally come to fruition.He called on farmers to take advantage of the situation and access the loans.

  141. Ba Chapi,
    All my hope is gone.So what do you think would be the ideal Game plan henceforth rather than our tribal push strategy? How far will it take us considering the deafening silence and lack of interest among civilized Bembas? I thinking of quiting blogging because the 6 years invested so far have kept MMD in the strong position.The more we sing our Bemba song, the more Zambians consider us useless fools.

    Worst order Dictatorship muchilonganino chesu
    PF IS ON ITS WAY TO CALVARY – MSISKA
    PATRIOTIC Front (PF) is on its way to Calvary because of Michael Sata’s dictatorship, former Lusaka deputy mayor Charles Msiska charged yesterday as he resigned from PF.

    And PF councillors complained that they were compelled to vote for Stephen Chilatu as mayor because of intimidation from the top party leadership on Thursday night.
    Earlier, PF spokesperson Given Lubinda also warned that PF would trace defiant councillors who voted for Msiska and take disciplinary action against them. “Lubinda was busy calling councillors at about midnight threatening that should any councillor defy the party directives to vote for Chilatu, they will be expelled. So we actually voted under coercion. It was not our wish to vote for Chilatu, we just had no option,” the source said. “The truth is that the elections were not free and fair. There is too much dictatorship in PF.”
    The source said as a result of these threats, PF councillors decided to work on a strategy on how to defeat Sata and his colleagues in the top leadership.

  142. #154 FACT. Shame on you for impersonating TRUE-SAGE IN #155 &#156.When are you chaps going to grow up.I think you`re not serving LPM well on this blog with your shallow spin.I had advised your about three months ago to learn a few tips from arguably the best SPIN DOCTOR on the planet in the name of Karl ROVE how to go about this kind of business.LPM is wasting more public funds using an individual like you to spin topics and negative information on this blog.All you do is PASTE and COPY and some primitive politics through impersonations and shallow data.An ideal Leader accepts constructive critisism and tries to improve in order to be a better person.It`s individuals like you that mess up leaders by heaping praises on them even when you know that they`re wrong.Quit this behaviour of idolising LPM because he`s just a fellow human being like you and is equally bound to make mistakes.So when he does, have the courage to point that out in order to be of any rellevance to society.WAKE UP!!

  143. Chapi,
    With due respect for your addiction to blogging 24/7, I acknowledge your revealed desire to blog me. Regrettably I have too many important things at hand directly enhancing value on society than blogging around the clock. I mean while blogging to you is a vocation, to me it’s an extracurricular that comes rarely but with fun after some product day. So don’t expect me to answer every nuisance of yours after the departure of Mr. Veteran.
    Need to know that even though your tribal push and seemingly debased trolling of smear rants has hit a snag, I recommend you deeply reflect and re-strategize your role in the dynamic Zambia. You risk growing irrelevant because of your failure to learn from history. Tribalism in Zambia has always suffered defeat. For this fact there are extenuating reasons why UNIP ruled for 27 years in the face of opposition from tribalists now regrouped in PF.
    Visionary Zambians will never revert to the Stone Age politics of trivial tribal lines your clueless blogging is evidently anchored on.
    You are amoral and a costly liability to Sata and Chiluba’s hope. I have always wondered why they have kept on struggling to sustain your useless tribal campaign assignments considering that push is increasing eating into their political constituency.
    Stunningly, your self imposed sanctuary in the USA despite access to the social welfare services you have been drawing from to supplement what Sata wastes on you, disgracefully you have not used them to learnt anything from the American dynamic politics.
    A normal person worth any substance or futuristic in vision would not be preoccupied 24/7 blogging the impenitent sin of tribalism, trivialities and unproductive hatred you have proved your devotion.
    Certainly, I’m tot launching a person attack on you, but have morally found it noble to let you know that your conspiracy against the united Zambian ethnics has kept pushing your PF to Sodom and Gomorrah whose fruits you are yet to bear before 2010. Call me all the names you can come up with but not so called TRUE SAGE. That name is synonymous with tribalism. While I’m a Zambian centrism rooted in the One Zambia One nation creed. I believe in man north, south, east, west, central and every part of my beautiful Zambia.

  144. WAKE UP ZAMBIA

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    What a waste of time? Even now who will refuse a gift from the President? Bena Zambia this is wake up call for the rest of us. The Politicians are trying to make Zambians look so dull. Do not give up demoncratical system. example: “La Revolution Francaise: They never have it at easy but they have riched and conquer the world”. All these are happening are distractions to the nation just focus for the country.

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