Trial in the case involving Second Republican president Frederick Chiluba failled to take off in the Lusaka Magistrates Court.
Ndola based High Court Deputy Registra, Jones Chinyama who is handling the matter was not presnt in Court.
Journalists at the court were not given reasons.
The Former president was scheduled to start his defence after he and two others were found with a case to answer on 12 counts of theft and were put on their defence.
Dr. Chiluba who was accompanied by his wife Regina was seen in court as early as 08:30 hrs.
Chiluba and Access Financial Services AFS Directors Faustin Kabwe and Aaron Chungu are charged with theft after for allegedly stole public funds from the ZAMTROP account.
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Oops it’s za-yellow again.
Nolle prosequi!
Crucify him!!
What a waste of someone’s time. Will Jones Chinyama be disciplined? Oh, he was getting some pep talk from Levy. Somehow the state has failed to handle these cases competently.
Looks like some one’s prayers have been answered.
#2, it doesn’t sound like “Nolle prosequi!” to me. I can assure you its another gimmick for the chaps to prolong the case further in order to make more allowances on the case. This case has become meaningless. Chiluba might just as well be acqitted to stop this plunder of tax payers’ money by the GRZ.
Chinyama whats up?what the hell do you think you are doing?
Bali chibosha
mwachita 4give foreigner elo mwakana ukuchita 4give Kafupi. bashi Chipo refused to release the document which was important and it seems that rubish judge Smith’s judgement will not be registered in our courts here. Bashi Chipo should be the one who had asked Chinyama to be technically absent today!
God may have 4given Chiluba for his wrongs, Chiluba is now a powerful christian than b4.
There is no bribe and I can assure you that Judge Chinyama can do anything to nail chiluba and the co-accussed for his benefit. However, Let us remind ourselves that the law is not legalised as we think. The foreign court had access to the Financial Charter of the Intelligence service and here we are getting the President refusing to owner the true and justy legal outcome. In the essence of this arguement Chiluba is judged by the Govt and not the Court as possible to be. Chiluba was the president and had access to this charter.Why is the president refusing? It to deny his predessor the fair trail or just to make it hard to the judges? Im not a lawyer by professional but I can see this as
#9,zayelo is nt Zambian.Both katumbi & kafupi are congolese.The only difference btwn them was tht kafupi was the king of plunderers and katumbi was one of the agents of kafupi in plundering our national wealth.
Sorry in line six I was suppose to write suppose and not possible. Contd: the denied trail by the govt maybe thats why Judge Chinyama didnt show up. Sangwa and co they know the content of the Financial Charter and want to base their argument on the integrity of the Foreign judgement over this issue.However, Im not a suppoerter of any wrong doing by those who hold high public positions. Therefore as Dennis Liwewe used to say ‘let us wait and see here we go boys’
I could not believe wat i saw today afternoon on great east road.4 a moment i thot there was 100 funeral processions following each otha,this turned out to be Pres HH’s convovy frm the airport as he returned frm china.
Witnessed it too near arcades and was tempted to join it upto its secretariat where he addressed the crowd and media.
#13 I was in the 2nd car. I think I saw you
There is nothing new about this it is our judshire which has a big problem and it is we the people on the street suffer just wait and see this short bastered will be free and nothing will happen to him . I know of a worker at the London high commission just before FTJ was to leave the office he asked this officer by the name of SAKALA to take 2 brief cases full of US$ to BELGUM he did that we informed the police in BELGIUM but he had CHUNGU who got all raped up and got the money out so u can c there is nothing we can do to these as we call them BIG BOYS A lot of ZAMBIANS know this story this officer was than moved to BRUSLIES and I think he is still thereand that was about 150 million US$
All,
At we are not sure why Chinyama wasnt in court, could be anything. Lets wait for the reasons – facts and figures, lets not speculate at all.
Ba Shina Anonymous (13),
Hakaivotele Heka (you call HH),
It is impossible for him to become head of state in Zambia on the basis of the Monze constituency all cows given the suffrage rights.You are in fantasy mode brother to think he could pull winning Zambian votes.Do you really know or think Lozis, Bembas and Ngonis not forgetting Luapulan kabokes would vote HH in? Hope you are not a HBP risky demagogue.Good luck though.
what are you talking about?What makes you think these other tribes won’t vote for him?It’s people like you who promote genocides in Africa you shouldn’t be thinking on people’s behalf.
# 18 that is being mean-spirited. Why do you love to divide Zambia? Please grow up.
#18, I can count on my testicles the number of times you’ve had a mature thought in your entire life. Come off it!
#18 In the western world they call it Racism. In Africa its called tribalism. Its retrograssive. Thats right # 20. I don’t care what tribe you are, but can you perform?? That is what we need to ask ourselves.
#18 is rather shocking and shallow. what wrong has HH done to you? why not form your own party where you will be voted widely. you are the one is a tribalist
Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. dreamed of an America where his children could not be judged by their skin colour but by the content of their character. It is time we started judging one another not by clan, creed or region but by the content of our character.
Abash Tribalism and Racism!!
#18, your thinking mentality is what has made nation to be the way it is. Your thoughts are inhuman. You are the safe folks in those offices that first look at someone’s last name. You not different from KKK.
The truth pains.
Forget it how many years have passed ever since this case has been on dont even think of it this is Africa and dats how things go down flip the coin and keep going with some issues of development and stop wasting your energy by thinking dat the case is on, you are blinded open your eyes why are you too sleepy i dont like dat wake up people this is whats called politics i end here all am begging you is to wake up we africans are too sleep in general lets wake up and stop mixing reality and fantasy wake up wake up wake…..am out
#18 please lets behave ,why do you want to incite others.By the way what is wrong with someone being tonga.Mind your language fool.
#18 has lost it and seems 2 be scared of change (good change).Its such pipo like #18 who r 2 blame 4 retrospective leadership zambia has had.
Am nt a UPND member but i believe in calling a spade a spade & nt a big spoune,among all presidential candidates we’ve at the moment HH stands out 2 b the best and more electable.Good luck 2 u HH & UPND.Most pipo in the streets r talking bout u.Tht means they’ve felt ur impact.
Yes truth pains.Hearing it now will help avoid foreseeable shocks birthed out of illusions of what is impossible across the divides.One’s village and all the herded Cows and goats therein cannot give one the Republican Presidency excerpt party leadership.
Tongas, get it in your thick heads and voices that you can never lead a nation with your racist trends.
What do you expect from a corrupted justice system? Cabbage will give birth to cabbage, thugs to thugs, and spread corruption through out the land called Zambia.
abambulwe kabwalala ooyu!
Umuntu!!! surely you are already thick in your head cant you see that we are already in Government? Levy is part of the Bantu Botatwe so stick to the idea that we are already in Government and shall keep coming wheather we are tongas or not what matters is we are ZAMBIANS!!!!!! One ZAMBIA One Nation!!!
I hate traiblists and what they stand for. shame on you #18. #22 you are spot on! When are going to grow out of this tribal thing? Lets think of each other as Zambians and nothing else.
And coming to the topic at hand, its just a matter of time….the birds will soon come to roost. Kafupi will be caged. Magistrate Chinyama may be had a valid reason for not being in court so lets not judge him. If I may ask, how may times has FTJ and his lawyers played some tricks in that court? Meaningless objections and applications…even illnesses. nonsense!
#18 and 22. i undertand now why whites produce monkey sounds when they see a black person. its becoz of *****s like you. you are an embarassment to zambia and shame to your parents for having produced *****s like you and shame to the bemba tribe for having demamgogues like you . i for one would not like your vote even if it means losing an election. you stink . the tongas you so despise are the reachest tribe in zambia and you will choke to your death with envy because some of your tribes take pride in stealing. why do we have your tribesmen as economic refugees in souhern province. not povr
im not finished with you yet. 18 and 22. you part of the statistics of one meal per day households which is rather embarassing to our nation. for your own information tongas participate in politics on parttime basis and not as a full time activity unlike some of these thieving tribes, we are ruling this country economically whether you like it or not. your basic needs for food should not inspire your hatred for tongas as you can do better by working as slaves in our shambas.
now this is wrong the topick is not about tribe it is about FTJ so please let us stick to that on this
People tribalism is childish, let us focus on developing the country and heritage that we all share. This is not a time to be belittling each other. Let us keep teaching ourselves and future generation to respect each other as human beings, brothers and sisters that share a common past, a common heritage and a common culture. People we are one big family and we should learn to live like one.
On Dr. Chiluba, I would say let us forgive and forget, Zambia is worth much more than what anyone may try to get for their own personal greed whoever they may be.
# 37 Reachest?
Tongas are time wasters, we all know that given the tribally rotten circumstances HH came into power, he will never be acceptable to any other Zambians outside of Southern Province. This is basic simple mathematics, if HH cannot win in Barotseland, how can he ever dream of winning in Eastern, Central of Luapula? If I were these musoya munchers, I will make peace with Nkosi Litunga who supported Sejani for MMD SG instead of Aka. The only Tonga who could have been president and was cheated in broad day light was Mazoka, the rest “ni matuvi chabe”.
#18 and 32. I really wonder if your come from a home. I expect a Zambian to have some level of humainty, UBUNTU, which should have been learnt from a normal african-home setup.
I think time for being tribal is long gone. Us, Tongas and the Southern Province have done alot for our nation Zambia. As someone has already alluded to, we produce food for most of the country supplies. We even harbour ZESCO’s most powerful electicity generation plants. Indeed many more aspects of how we contribute to Zambia can be listed, but I will leave you all who want more data to do some research.
Let us develop Zambia instead of clinging to evils that border on insulting each other.
It’s so interesting that Tongas are now all of a sudden pretending to the Burkinabes of Zambia, all above tribally inclined partisan politics. They surely have a very short length of memory to forget their common war cry when Mazoka’s successor was being sought: “Tulamu jaya iswebo Saki ka, iswebo tuyanda HH. Zambia needs a business man and not a politician”. Only 100 years ago, these chaps were our subjects to treat as we liked, today they want to insult us and tomorrow expect our support. No way! Kamu zwaaaaaa basuntwe botatwe, mwatu sabile pe! You will fight your battles with Bembas and Nyanjas alone.
Just a reminder to some shallow-minded strife-seeking individuals this column is about the judge failing to show up and not about ethnicity and presidency.
#42 & your fellow insultings cohorts, please stop generalising issues. While I respect the campaign and sacrifice that Mr A. Mazoka made for Zambia, I do not think he was the ‘only Tonga who could have been president’.
Many more are coming. HH may not have come at the right time to lead the UPND, but he is so far the only democratically elected president among of presidents in all current political parties in Zambia. My President Levy Mwanawasa comes in second. The rest are self-appointed opportunists who have been consistent as Poor Finishers (PFs) in our country presidential elections held recently.
You may not like HH in his individual capacity, I remind you that u ain’t 11mil Zambians.
While I am not a sympathiser of HH and neither was I one for Mr Mazoka, I clearly do not like the sentiments you tribalists (the guilt are always afraid) place on us Tongas.
Back to the topic at hand, I strongly believe there was a valid reason for Jones Chinyama’s absence.
My take on the Chiluba issue is that let us bury the hatchet and ocus on developing Zambia. I for one wants to drive a CAR made in Zambia with a Zambian name, watch and listern to a TV with a Zambian brand name, use a PC with a Zambian name and an operatng system which works in my local language so that a person who struggles with English can follow what I am doing on it, etc.
We need to advance our own technology!
#37 Mwana mubota, What makes you think the chap writing in #18 is bemba, its seem you have something against the bembas, even when you dont know who is writing you blame bembas. Much as i dont support #18 I hate your tone of blogging against bembas. Man grow up! You and him are all *****s!
Please don’t mix up the two cases
The case being handled by Jones Chinyama pertains to a case of theft (abuse of ZAMTROP), paying lawyers from Government coffers…..
Another case before High court judge Japhet Banda pertains to the registration of a London Court judgment. It is in that case that the financial charter is being sought by the defense team
#45 good one please let us stick to the column
What if the impossible happened that HH was Presdo, what would i do?
#51 You can cut your d**k if you want!
into small pieces!
#51, the best you can do is acknowledge that it is his time to lead. This is what I did as regards to my President LPM. The options I had were to renounce my Zambian Citizenship and wonder all over the world like a lost sheep or accept the situation and take President LPM has my President hoping that he will do his part to move Zambia forward in the meantime.
The Holy Bible records that there is time for everything in Ecclesiastes 3:1-8, I think. And so, there is no need to insult or lose heart for it is simply not necessary. Someone said, “there is more that life, just life, has to offer.”
Be blessed you all.
hhehhehhehhe are you ok today or do you need to catch up on some sleep, you seem to be slightly delirious today?
#55, thanks for the concern. Keep well.
Good blog gone bad.
Its ok my brother, just looking out for a countrymate!
It is really provoking to see a ‘Bleacher’ Stand in front of us to lecture of Theft and corruption.
Pray hard . The day is coming for you. Who knew Sata will have lamentations.
Don’t try moderating among numb-skulls who can’t discuss an issue like grown ups. One would think learned people would have constructive things to do here. The only reason we’re differing is because not all of us here are *****s.
This FTJ business is beyond irritation now!Why can’t they Jail or crucify the man & throw away the keys,If they’ve failed;let him loose instead of wasting so much of our hard earned taxes!
This is becoming a circus!!!!
The anger exhibited on this blog is a reflective of the hostile nature of the society we live in. This could be due to the perceived unfairness in system – who share national cake and how is cut. In any case any tribe or zambian for that matter could our presdo. And it does not imply the if HH is presdo we are being ruled by Tongas. NO. I’m not tonga but i would support any dark-skin, flat nose and thick lipped Zambian!!
After almost 45 years of independence i never thought i’d see a day when someone would be proudly talking about tribe as being a factor in Zambia.I mean,all my friends are from different tribes none from my tribe exempt my young brother.Don’t know may be its ’cause i was born & raised in Lusaka, i’m in my 30s & tribe was not a factor even when i was marrying a lady from another tribe.To me & i know to many other Zambians especially those born after independence we are a mixtures of many tribes,some of us don’t even know how to speak our parents language.HH is a powerful politician,i’m no Tonga but i feel the man is one of the best politician this land has ever produced.Currently the best!!!!
Whenever there is zayelo in the picture, there’s always confusion on the blog. FTJ is a cursed man. He brought all this tribalism. After 1991, we saw the mushrooming of traditional ceremonies.
I know of a party which brought tribal politics to Zambia.During electiions I kept asking myself what would happen to the country if their president won.Lets remind those people that no single tribe can rule Zambia.Lets co exist
Just to have a non native tonga but tonga speaking district commissioner or council secretary has become a big issue in a town like Monze.I fear for my country ,the situation in southern province is not good a formula must be found to help our brothers understand that Southern province is for Zambians
How about, retreating to our own homelands. I am sure those who have encroached into hinterlands have more to Lose. Bring on the Divisions we are ready!!!
All you are fine except one Chipumbu called HK 59
#67. ZedianTonga “How about, retreating to our own homelands” I like the language the first word in the sentence begins with the letter H and the last word begins with letter H.There can never be divisions anymore but superiors and subjects.The tongas have been our own subjects and will never be superiors,its nature
For your own information, Mr Jones Chinyama was caught up in HH traffic in the morning thats why he coudnt make it to court. In any case he will make it for the next sitting. This gives Dr. Chiluba and his team to prepare their defence.
That little yellow thief and philandering prick brought all this nonsense about tribalism to the fore. Now anyother tribe other than Luapula is tribalist.What nonsense is this? Sata and his piper FJT are tribalists to the core who would plung our country to depths we can only dread. We need leaders who can appeal and inspire across tribal bounds,not those smoked,polluted and heart attacked morons.Some of us have mixed tribe families.Spare us you tribal demagogary and fcuk you.But before I go: Viva Levy.Next week we need to hold the PF Convention in L/Stone…where else?
#66 Zoona!! I agree.
And the prick is lucky he can stand and fcuk around the way he is after all the danum he did to us.In some more serious countries you can not speculate on what should have been done to him.
breaking news. fred mmembe has married chiko mazoka at a private ceremony
#74 Thats non of our business! Why do you want to dwell on gossiping? We want development not gossiping, PERIOD.
75 speak for yourself and not for others as they are capable of speaking for themselves as well. a lot of them are interested actually.
Not intersting.
Don chichi in effect!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, everything is tribal pa Zed. How about just discussing issues in a civil way rather than insulting each other? Using profenity on the web is like walking on Cairo Road and shoulting profenity. The F word you guys use as translation in your native languages. How about just using it in yo languages? I know it would be too heavy, it does mean the same even when you post it English. I remember what my father told me before leaving ZED. “To absorb the best in foreign culture, you have to retain the best in your own culture”
PF 71 ukutumpa.
can all of u pls read 16 it is very intresting this guy is talking so seans can some one pass this to TASK FORCE
People tend to use christainity to hide fromm their deeds.It´s all about church and state….they do work hand in hand.
kawalala!kawalala!kawalala!!uyo mumangeni!!
Zambians really have some imagination!!!
Ok!!!!FTj did bring development,lets give him some credit!and please dont talk about things u dont know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tribalism has always been there in Zambia. KK knew this and devised a remedy of sending children qualifying to go technical boarding schools, in areas others than their provinces of origin to promote fusion and learning each other’s cultures. Today these schools have a higher pecentage of apamwamba’s children/dependants originating from that particular province, regardless of where they currently live. This is a complete move from the original concept and it has made the youth to believe these institutions are made only for a particular orientation and not all Zambians.
Who are these Bembaz,Tongaz,Loziz etc.Do they look different from the other Zambians?
Please do not loose the plot in the issues at hand. Having said that tribalism is bad and very mean. My paternal grandfather was half Jewish and half Lunda his wife mama was Bemba. My maternal grandmother was Lunda and her husband was Lozi. I am married to a someone who is partly Tumbuka and Tonga. What are my children? They are Zambian. So stop that tribal nonesense NOW! Also remember no swearing. When you swear you insult us your elders.