Mbesuma Joins National team Camp

1. Great. We need him despite the odds against him. Zambia should learn to keep senior and experienced players. We need counselors to talk to players like him.

2. That is wmderful. Collins should be given a chance he is a great player despite the injury that has taken him long to healed but one day God will heal his injury.
   Mbesuma is good at the goal when injury free.coach thumb up!

3. Wish the lads best of lack. Take advantage of the neutral venue to Beat the Hawks. Lome is not a safe place for the Chipolopolo. I watched the boys when they played Iran, a few things in defence need to be fixed and avoid stupid fouls in the 18 yard area.Togo with Adebayo, they are beatable. Go Zambia.

4. I dont support this move at all, the chemistry of the team was better with the youngsters (mayuka and kola) in it, now they are including this kasai who is a distraction, lazy and overrated. In my ‘opinion’ i feel mbesuma should have toiled in international oblivion until the group stages proper for qualifying just so that he can get fit and ultimately learn his lesson.

5. #4 I agree, FAT BOY Mbesuma is not needed now. We have a good enough strike force. Our problems are in defence. Let FAT BOY learn his lesson and earn his place in the team, than just calling him based on history. Yes we need experienced players, but not the experience FAT BOY will bring. He has not been playing for the whole season , so what experience is #1 talking about on this chap. Just send him back to Luanshya so he starts all over again.

6. We all need second chances, lets give this guy an opportunity to redeem himself.

7. Yesss! Fat Boy is back hahaha! cikali cilya icimuntu.

8. The Hawks camp has some problems. This coupled with neutral ground is a great opportunity which our boys should take full advantage of.

9. The faz acts like p rostitutes, always looking for new clients with money-players. Where are the under 23 players? I think renard is gonna be a good coach. Our local failed coaches like experimenting too much.

10. Lets see what Mbesuma can prove. I hope he understands what lies ahead if he does not pull up his socks.

    All the Chipolopolo boys.

11. The club movements Mbesuma has been making are not good for his family, I hope he left his wife and Children in England. May be she is working and her children can have a better education. Zambia is rough for an uneducated person. I know some Zambian footballer’s families doing far much better than their fellows in Zambia . Their fathers may have lost it for a larger good. Coaching football at a primary school in Europe can earn a person more money than a Zambian doctor or minister, In addition access to qualty education and health. These thing you only access in Zambia if you have a lot of money.

12. Leave Mbesuma’s family out of this. This just a game and career and not about money. F***k England and f****k your dirty pounds. Our Zambian education is much better than you people learn there. Actually I have masters from scottland, its no better than UNZA’s bachelors!!
    Lets discuss game of soccer, entertainment…

13. I think its great Collins is being brought back into the picture, perhaps under the guidence of our new coach he may duplicate his past performance for Kaizer chiefs and Zambia(.
    It will take time but he has all the insentive necessary to motivate him and bring him back to the once feared African Hurricaine.
    This business of calling him names does nobody good. Lets leave the week raps for week people.
    Lets suport our players our coach and our Football organizaions.
    Its great to see the youngsters coming up, Mbesuma himself is still very young, there will always be space for a player who puts his country first and wears his jersey with pride….those are the players Zambia needs more of

14. Ntambalukuta #12, Be realistic, Its a torture for a family to be reduced to Zambian poverty after being exposed to a better life, This is why a lot of people remain in Europe. You might have left Europe young better for you. Imagine a child being brought up in Germany or Finland, being taught in french or finish, leaving an average European life,them one day being told to pack and go to Kalingalinga and continue with school at Vera Chiluba Basic School and the mother moving from being a Hospice assistant in Finland to a Marketeer. Between Malitoli and Jonestone Bwalya , who has better life.

15. its amaizin how lack of understanding clouds a few pipos judgement. Zambia is indeed a better place in terms of education. health granted needs improvement, but ntambalukuta you are right. London is an illusion. Its become very had to live in this land, people are living and getting back to their native lands. I live in london and can tell you that there are more opportunities in zambia, but unfortunately we zambians are so shortsighted to take full advantage. Mbesuma is a welcome inclusion and if thrust in will prove one or two doubters wrong

16. Not sure if its the right time to bring him back into the squad. I agree he should be given another chance, but he should be getting back into form at the club level first. I don’t think he can contribute much at the moment, though I hope I am proven wrong.

17. I think I know you so-called “Its me”#14. Yaaa sure, you got me on that one of people remaining in difficulty countries like Finland, I was there my friend. I am not sure if Zed Saileti and others are happy to be in Rovaniemi, on the arctic circle, but of course they are scared of you laughers. My friend, playing for Zesco United or Green Buffaloes maybe better than quiting soccer and go into dish-washing, just for the fear of being laughed at by your own people. Lets get civilized people. Life is not always about money, but about happiness too. Eye-on-the-ball.

18. Mbesuma is a brilliant player. But this heap of matumbo is simply not match-fit. Somebody needs to pump some sense into his chibuku-filled big head that he can’t walk his way back into the national team. SECOND DIVISION IN ENGLAND can help him. But problem with Collins akudya vonse pa buffet chik@l@!!!!

    BUN DEM DREAD, where are you?

19. I dont trust local players very much. They can disapoint u at a time u need a win most. So experience in futbal is a king. In Europe during Euafa games they use experienced players just to withstand ‘plesha’from the oponents bcoz a win is very cardinal.

20. good decision. i hope he won’t be drinking in between training times

21. Why is Himoonde being overlooked, he has more experience at national Team level. Is he paying for His Master’s(Hanif) sins. I wonder, Did those comments by Hanif about Renard upset FAZ so much. Cant wait to see what happens to William Njovu when he recovers.

22. Fat boy should be given a chance, he is still young maybe he might just regain the devastating form he previuosly had given a chance. There are a lot of players who have become valuble revalations after a change in the coaching bench. This could just be the spring board he could have been lucking.Other wise good luck to the Chipolopolo boys.

23. we need more competetion on the stiking front.

24. I think it is too early to draft Mbesuma in the team now. He has not played many games recently which implies that he might not be physically fit. He is also mentally disturbed after being offloaded from his Turkish club hence he won’t be able to put up his best performance. He should be given enough time to settle down before considering him for national duties.

25. i also think it is right to give mbesuma a chance for fair play so that he only blames no one if he fails.This should however be extended to other players such as edwin phiri to mention but a few.i see alot of ethusiasm in renard which the likes of ba pp never had.Nyambe is a no nonse type of defender trying to emulate his father the late king yellow eston mulenga.That is a good call by the coach

26. lets give the guy a chance,maybe by doing that he is going to do us proud,

    but am always wondering why he never played in the games abroad,is it because those coaches see what we do not see or its the other way round

27. what happened to Elijah Tana?????????

28. Mwe bantu mpuleniko amano, bushe uyu Nyambe Mulega mutundu nshi?

29. If we are to talk about skill, Mbesuma is one of the best players to have ever come out of zambia, the only thing that did not happen, was good management, how does one explain the fact that he played so well in RSA only to fail in Europe, he went to Maritimo, Turkey, England and in all this he did not make a mark. I saw this chap play at Roan he is not one guy to play around with he has the skill hopefully Herve will programme him very well and psych him up well to regain his everything. Katos and Mbesuma would basically make a dangerous frontline anytime!

30. Nyambe mulenga is coloured!

31. People, does anyone know whether “Soldier Boy” Katongo has arrived in camp? And what’s happening to Andrew Sinkala?

32. I feel this has been the most productive spell in training for a long time. I think the boys held together very nicely against IRN. We have plenty of strikers now, the main problem has always been in defense. Eyes on the ball…

33. Hi people!
    My squad for the Togo game
    1.Kennedy mweene
    2.William Chinyama
    3.Joseph Musonda
    4.Billy Mwanza
    5.Chintu Kampamba
    6.Isaac Chansa
    7.Rainford Kalaba
    8.Felix Katongo
    9.Rongers Kola
    10.Chris Katongo
    11.clifford Mulenga
    Prediction
    Zambia 2 Togo 1
    “LET GO ZAMBIA LETS GO”
    whats your squad and prediction?

34. Nyambe mulenga is Estone Mulenga’s son accoring to Zambianfootball.com

35. Countrymen what happpens to the six points?Am told that one team in our group withdrew.If we dont top the group and we dont get the six points then we gona be in trouble.Any ideas?

36. my prediction 2 2

37. hey # 31,katongo is in camp, check the times of Zambia website
    Thank you

38. # 33, your line up is not bad, i would change Kola for Mayuka, iam not sure Kola is ready to start such tough Games.

39. everyone deserves a second chance. Let Mbesuma rprove himself so that he has no one to blame. Go Zambia Go!

40. My prediction: Zambia 3:1 Togo.
    Togo Will score through a penaulty.

41. Iam doing the count down. Zambia 2 Togo 1 Anyway its good Mbesuma has been recalled. he has to prove himself fit. He was not to be condemned to the bone. But surely he needs a serious advisor and self discipline about food. if only he can stop the Milk Shake then better. when i heard he is clubless i felt bad and just thought of the riches to rags but thanks to Renard for awarding him a chance in the team. if he sees the way concord Kola n Mayuka are doing he will pull up his pants.
    GO ZAMBIA GO.

42. guys thanks for the ka support.
    I will score, me needed a team

43. Thanks everyone for your comments. As Govt, we will support our boys win or lose. Lets help them & support them this weekend.

44. More

45. Why is Zambia playing this game in Ghana instead of Togo?

46. Zambia 3 togo 1, go zambia go

47. YOU SHOULD BE READING NEWS #45 AND BE UPTO DATED EVERY DAY FOR YOU TO AVOID FUN QUESTIONS AT TIMES
    MY SQUAD FOR TOGO
    1.Kennedy mweene
    2.William Chinyama
    3.Joseph Musonda
    4.Chintu Kampamba
    5.Billy Mwanza
    6.Isaac Chansa
    7.Rainford Kalaba
    8.Felix Katongo
    9.EMMANUEL MAYUKA
    10.Chris Katongo
    11.clifford Mulenga
    PREDICTIONS
    ZAMBIA 3, TOGO 0

48. i hope i will score a consolation goal when we lose 5 to 1 margin by a star studded togolies led by adebayor.wish us luck guys.

49. I mean we are losing 3 ,o not vise versa

50. i didn’t finish togo 22,zambia 0

51. Zambia 2 Togo 2.
    our team is not perfect and the coach has made it public about the problems and this is the information the togolese will use.Zambians plan and think loudly.they also learn not to discuss everything in the media before matches.

52. ALL THE BEST GUYS ZAMBIA WILL WIN!!!

53. I dont know what i want to predict Zambia 2 Togo 0

54. With the current team: aah TOGO 2; Zambia 1. Mponya yebo Kagumbuli ino uzwa yi.#34 Shidada, thanks for the info about Nyambe Mulenga.

55. thumbs up to renard for letting mbesuma join the squad for assessment. Let him prove himself to the coach that he still has the prowe…in scoring. prediction Togo 0 & Zambia 1

    GO ZAMBIA GO.

56. Iwe #1, bushe palya pa round about pa Wusakile imyotoka shalileka ukupona nomba? Sanchez, BOTSWANA

57. I would like to shock a few soccer pundits on this blog.I think that if Mbesuma is physically fit to play,then Renard should start him alongside Chris Katongo upfront.This is the Mbesuma that can deliver for Zambia,the one that has a chip on his shoulder and has everything to prove to the nation that his success in South Africa wasn`t a fluke.A psyched up player is capable of producing wonders.Pundits should realise the difference between this Mbesuma and the one that was being dragged from the Luanshya shebeens to play against Senegal at Konkola stadium.No African defense can stop a pumped up Mbesuma and Chris Katongo.Ask Bafana what happend to them on the final day of 2008 Afcon qualifiers

58. Fat boy mbesuma is finished, period!!!!

59. #58 Abena Mikomfwa
    Soccer is a science and an art that`s very interesting.I will give you an example of Thiery “TITI” Henry when he became a fringe player at Inter Milan.Arsene Wenger bought as a winger and converted him into one of the top strikers the EPL has ever seen.Some pundits were saying that Henry was finished but the same player went on to perform wonders in arguably the toughest league on the planet the EPL.That`s why I agree with #29 that Mbesuma is a very gifted and talented player who only needs a mentor to guide and get the best out of him.

60. Mbesuma definitely deserves another chance, I just don’t know if it should be at national team level. He needs to find a club and re-establish himself. Contrary to previous opinions, Mbesuma did well at Maritimo. Like others, I don’t understand why he opted not to signup with them. I wish him and the rest of the team all the best against Togo.

61. Collins has the skills,”Bola temaka iyo,umuntu mutwe” the chap is brilliant.Mayuka and Kola are good but they lack experience in high profile games….its the defence that is giving me headache!!!!

62. Does any one have real data on Mbesuma for us to say he is finished? Injuries can rule out even the best of players. Ronadhino has not played much football this season for Baca but Brazil has not said he is finished. They have allowed him to recover and see what happens. Mbesuma is a real Zedian and please stop calling him kasai. His father who has played for Z also, if you did not know- family name withheld, is from NWP. He is a family friends of ours. Collins has even bought a house for him. Let’s not speculate but use facts.

63. You guys on this forum, you bash the boys but when the win you say good things. Are not the ones who said they would not beat Botswana? And after the won, you said good things. Z has a good team, at Afcon the allowances issue affected us, lets hope Kalu and team will sort this out. Zed 3-Togo-1

64. Feature Mbesuma at your own peril. Come Monday all of you supPorting the idea that Fat boy should be given another chance will go in the hiding. Thats the problems with us Zambians, we dwell too much in the past. We have fresh blood in the name of Mayuka, Kola, Clifford etc, but you still hero worship fat boy. He does not deserve another chance now. He is HISTORY. ABASH FAT BOY.

65. If Samuel Eto-o, Geremi, Song, etc were playing for Zed they would already have been history. Emanuel Zulu outplayed all these in the All Africa games in SA but where is he? History. Why is the life span of our playes so short? Will any one else match Kalu’s 100 caps let alone 50 goals for mother Zambia? Once promising players like Gift Kampamba, Benard Makufi, Zed Saileti, are all young players compared to the likes of Song. Where are they? What should FAZ do to prolong the shelf-life of our players? Soon the likes of Fwayo Tembo will be no more, what a pity?

66. mbesuma’s time was when he was in s africa-england yabekata te ma pie iyo.pa last kwina.what do u expect umuntu tateyamo alelyafye.and u call him in chipolopolo camp.leave him alone the boy is finished.

67. No harm in the coach assessing him. If he finds him unfit then let it be. But the story is that he has played well in the friendly with a Ghana club and played the whole second half as a sub without problems.Zambia won 2-0. It is not known yet who scored but it is clear he was not bad at all. He is working really hard to impress.

68. GO MBESUMA GO. THERE IS NO SUCH THINGS AS A PLAYER BEING FINISHED. THE MAJOR REASON FOR A PLAYERS DECLINE IS MAINLY ATTITUDE, AGE OR INJURY WHICH ENDS A PLAYERS CAREER. MBESUMA’S PROBLEM HAS BEEN ATTITUDE AND INJURY. THE FORMER IS MAN CREATED AND CAN BE OVERCOME BUT THE LATTER IS NATURE, I.E A PREVIOUSLY UNDETECTED INJURY E.G CHARLES MUSONDA ALSO KNEE PROBLEM. MBESUMA WILL RECOVER. I AM READY O DEFEND HIM. I WOULD CHOOSE TO START WITH HIM AND THEN BRING ON KOLA OR MAYUKA IN THE LATTER STAGES OF THE MATCH TO EITHER SAVE OR WIN.

69. THOSE SLATING HIM. JUST WATCH AND SEE IF COACH GIVES HIME A FAIR CRACK. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE YOUR REACTION. GOD BLESS ZAMBIA!!!!!!!!!

70. Let the coarch put mbesuma ,katongo c and J mulenga in the starting line up. Then kola , mayuka and chamanga to come as super substutes finish it up.viva mbesuma.

71. Our new coach is going to bring the best out of our boys,our preperations speak for themselves(as opposed to the normal Zim and Congo gmaes) and im sure the coach will line up challenging friendlies and expose our boys to different types of football and therefore give them exposure as a UNIT.Our boys will wear their jerseys with pride,we have a great blend of players and under the right guidence sky is the limit.
    Watch out for set pieces!
    3-1 Zambia Nuff said.

72. mbesuma had a good mentor at kiser chiefs in the likes of former zambaia coach ted dimitru.ted was a coach who understood the strenghts and weakness of fatboy thats why he managed to get the best out of him.the boy at his best is lethal so let renard do the assessment and see what he can get out of this boy.As for those who are condeming mbesuma to the doldrums shame on u….u re supposed to help build the team by helping out the players spritually instead of pointing fingers when things are had for them

73. Collins mbesuma welcome bak .score 2 silence the critics!!Go zed Go.

74. hope for once the Zambia National team will learn that you have to

    win everygame especially the Away matches…

    Not reading the POST OR TIMES OF ZAMBIA with one game left in the

    qualifiers that zambia can still qualify with Mathematical chances

    as is always the case with us every single time

    Clifford/Kola should start of as a super Subs hope they do not

    rush the kids into first team action..let them slowy build up their confidence esp with the GOALS they are scoring

75. I have never seen this Mbesuma play, so i can’t saw much about him. He might have made some mistakes and let God punish him for his wrong doing. But God loves everyone so Mbesuma deserves a 2nd chance in his life. He seem to be a good kid who needs guidance and support in his life. Let us help him and he will shine one day.

76. the team is shaping up well and i can see a favourable scoreline of 3-1 or 2-1 zambia, provided this kolwe mbesuma, doesnt play, already it seems like he is a doubt which is good news i think we are on the verge of great things if we keep our youngsters healthy and instill discipline and national pride in the senior members because they seem to be a lost cause, these abena sinkala sichone, tana and mbesuma included, although he is 25 ma rubbish, no pride in the colours they wear

77. Kasai really needs to earn his place in the team. We cannot rely on past glory…and for christ’s sake, REDUCE ON YOUR EATING AND WORK OUT MORE even when you are not playing. #62, have a sense of humour, I think the kasai name is really funny..ha..ha.ha

78. A point of correction. Nyambe Mulenga is not a son of the late Eston.This guys is from Mungwi,in kasama and his parents are still alive. Thats one good part with foreign coaches they select on merit not based on corruption.

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