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The Post’s comments are erroneous and politically motivated, Kunda

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Vice President George Kunda has described comments being made in the Post Newspaper on the signing of the Zamtel MOU as information leaked, incomplete, selective, premature and illegally possessed and that the comments do not portray the complete picture of the matter in dispute.

Mr. Kunda said people must not follow the statements being published in the Post Newspaper as they are unfounded, incomplete, erroneous and politically motivated.

He said that people must follow the Ministerial statement that the Minister of Communications and Transport Dora Siliya issued in Parliament as it was reflecting a true status quo based on the documents available to government.

The Vice President further said that it was unfortunate that the Zamtel mater has been heavily politicized by the Post Newspaper and that it appeared to government that the paper had acted as investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner of the matter.

Mr Kunda said there was nothing irregular in the signing of the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) between government and the RP Capital of Cayman Islands for the evaluation of Zamtel assets as the departments concerned had followed all the necessary legal procedures.

Mr. Kunda was speaking at a press briefing on the clarification of Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) signed between government acting through the Ministry of Transport and Communication and Zambia Development Agency (ZDA) and the RP Capital Partners Cayman Islands Limited.

He said government did not use illegal means in signing the Zamtel MOU with the RP Capital of Cayman Islands for the evaluation of Zamtel assets as all the necessary legal procedures were carefully followed and referred to the Attorney General’s Chambers for clearance.

Mr. Kunda further said that people must not rush into condemning government as the signing of the Zamtel MOU was clearly dealt with by an Acting Principal Counsel and the Solicitor General before the Attorney General dealt with the matter when he returned back from the African Union Human Rights Duties abroad.

He said people must not just politicize the signing of the Zamtel MOU as the Solicitor General who acted in the Attorney General’s capacity had made further consultations and approved the signing of the Zamtel Memorandum of Understanding between government and RP Capital of Cayman Islands.

Mr. Kunda explained that the MOU has covered the provisions of consultancy services for the valuation of Zamtel assets and the possible sale of the government stake in the Zamtel Company.

The Vice President further said that people should not condemn the tender process which was followed by government and applied to the RP Capital partners as prescribed in the Public Procurement Act as it did not require an advertisement and only required a limited selection or single sourcing.

He also denied reports that a fee of US$2 million had been paid to RP Capital and Partners adding that a fee of five percent of the value of the company within the minimum fee of US$2 million will only be paid upon a successful sale of the company.

Mr. Kunda said the measure will be subjected to Tender Board approval being obtained under the legal requirements of the Zambia Development Agency Act.

ZANIS/TK/AM/ENDS

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295 COMMENTS

  4. why is aids-stricken kunda so so defensive!!!
    they should be more pro active in informing the public then they will have no problem!!!

  7. We are on the battle ground/field.. At least Dora has some support drumming up now. We will see the end of this soon I presume..

  9. The post will soon become FACELESS if they can not dispute VP’s statements and fresh allegations..

    Let Dora have a sleepful night for a change.

  12. Well this is not a first time we are seeing a senior governt offcials defending their juniors,even chiluba is on record of having tried to defend some of his ministers and warning them about washing dirty linen in public,so dora kunda might be on your side this time but it will be the future that will determine your course.:-?

  14. Somebody feeding m’membe with false information? If he is relying on an illegally leaked document, how does he defend his case in court without admitting a case of bribery and corruption? Oh what a bind for my nephew!

  15. I don’t trust anybody in this saga. The post have an ill motive in all this as well. Govt, well they can never be trusted.

    Am just thinking if Magande had been president the 30 million dollars by Zambia Airways would have continued being swept under the carpet and that Airline would have continued burning govt cash, not paying taxes or NAPSA and the post would not have even have uncovered the story and the nation would have continued being ripped off.

    SO this situations is like thieves and criminals fighting over the loot and frankly am not going to support any of them. I just want the truth. A commision of Inquiry will do for me

  16. Firstly, in what capacity were speaking Mr George Kunda? I know that the experience you have from the Attorney General’s office is great, but I believe that Zambia has an Information Minister who MUST perform activities of informing the Nation on GRZ’s activities.

    On “Mr. Kunda said people must not follow the statements being published in the Post Newspaper as they are unfounded, incomplete, erroneous and politically motivated”, why then don’t you as whatever (GRZ or Minister of Justice, etc) take the POST to court over this so-appearing SERIOUS Zambian Public MISINFORMATION?

  17. Number 4, your comment is inhumane to say the least. We should have proper bases on which to criticise people. please. Noti ifyo! Dont make fun of human suffering. How do you know he has AIDS? And so what if he has? We are not interested in his status. We are interested in his role as VP period!

  18. 16 cont’d.
    On “The Vice President further said that people should not condemn the tender process which was followed by government and applied to the RP Capital partners as prescribed in the Public Procurement Act as it did not require an advertisement and only required a limited selection or single sourcing”, can we clearly have the latest GRZ TENDER PROCEDURE given out to the whole Zambian Nation.

    Also, could the NCC look into the issue of putting a clause in our probable new Country Constitution regarding how procurement and tender issues must be handled by any sitting GRZ! This is because I have never heard of PROCUREMENT without an Advertisement. What I know is that some companies..

  19. Firstly if Dora, had put such information out in the press before and after signing the MoU without waiting for Membe to do lay hands on it this couldn’t have happened.

    Does anybody have any info about this RB CAPITAL? who they are and what work they have done you can please share at….

    w…zambiana.proboards86.com/index.cgi

    General section

  21. @ 16.Maestro Hhehhehhehhe,

    I think Kunda was speaking as the most legally astute Minister in govt at the moment,

    clearly the matter got a brow too high for Dora.

    w**.zambiana.proboards86.com/index.cgi

  22. 18 continued.
    What I know is that some companies are almost-permanently guaranteed contracts to do certain activities for some known reason to Government Agencies, e.g., Boeing or Lockheed Martin contracted by NASA, a USA Space Agency because of certain reason like the companies are indigenous American ones and they have a proven track record to do a great job, although an ADVERTISEMENT for tender is always produced.
    Now, why should we circulate our money around the whole world when we can keep it to stabilise our kwacha at home by offering such Assets Evalaution Contracts of Zamtel to a Zambian company which has no links with president HH if the aim is punish opposing political leaders.

  23. 16 Taking the Post to court? Not worth it, further waste of tax payers’ money! They will slowly but surely kill themselves with their own poison.

  24. awe mwandini chabulana. chaps shouldnt waste tax payers money thru dubious arrangements. Dora ukose tukakukonka bubibubi….

  26. Now is the time to pin down these good-for-nothing booty licking m*th*r f*c*k*rs. All he has said here is balls. This thang is gonna get higher than Kunda. Watch.

  27. fb eye

    F Mmembe don’t got to produce no evidence. Procurement procedure on single don’t exist in this country. Dig it?

  28. #21. Luxor greetings and thanks for “Maestro Hhehhehhehhe, I think Kunda was speaking as the most legally astute Minister in govt at the moment, clearly the matter got a brow too high for Dora”, which indicates that he was speaking a Minister of Justice.
    I think this Minister of Justice and Vice President combined job is a very bad decision on the part of our President RB Banda. This is because the Justice Ministers appears like being elevated and demoted each time he has to make a briefing following the news at stake. How I wish another Justice Minister could be appointed so that Mr George Kunda can concentrate on being our Vice President alone. Mr George Kunda seems to operate as AG also.

  29. Why is George Kunda continueing to make statements about a case that is within the courts of law. I would have expected him to know better. Has he no faith in the Zambian judiciary system? Let the law take its course and if it so happpens that Dora has not breached any regulations in her awarding the contract to RP Capital; then she will be cleared. And if it so happens that the Post newspaper is misleading the nation then justice will visit them too. No one is above the law.

  30. #4 U cheap,insensitive,lowlife cunt!How do u start talking about non-issues & start peddling rumours on here.There’s a discusion 2 b had..things 2 b talked about.Not coming here & talking about someone’s supposed health status.where do u get such facts from anyway?That is defamation.Grow up,get a life & learn 2 discuss issues at hand.Such statements only show ur caliber of thinking and thought processes as being LOW.I get pissed off by such characters who don’t add value 2 a topic.

  31. Kunda did the same for chiluba et al. As a lawyer he is lacking in intergrity. Hope he will not live long enough to answer for his misdeeds. as for Dora the explorer, time will tell!

  32. …cont from no.29.
    Furthermore if the Solicitor General who was acting as AG at that time, mislead Dora; then he is not fit for purpose.None the less from the so called leaked material; it is evident that Dora was given timely advise to amend certain aspects of the MOU by the AG which she chose to ignore. So there you go Mr Kunda; even I being a layman with no degrees or certicate in law can prove that Dora acted in a very irresponsible, incompetant manner and should be held accountable.

  33. It is however interesting that it had 2 take the VEEP to call 4 a press briefing,why did they not use the govt spokesperson?Is it an indication of the importance they attach 2 the matter?The VP is thus staking his credibility on the line & should it emerge that govt is in the wrong,the VP risks losing some of his credibility as a lawyer turned politician.He does bring out some valuable insights into the whole matter,so it’s slowly unravelling.Let’s wait n c what the post has 2 say.It’s good that the courts will interpret the laws used and make a ruling on the matter.

  34. Free Advice to the MMD GRZ, let the law take its course on the Minister Dora Siliya Case.

    Also, stop reacting anything the Undereducate and his Imagebuilders the POST releases in its editorials as they are intruding on your budgeted expenditure in your holding meetings to react to them as GRZ.

    Can you therefore, show us Zambians that you as an elected Government are in control of our National affairs as Zambia.

    Remember, someone said that the guilty are always afraid.

  35. Question still remains: The AG was against the deal, herein lays the problem, the AG and the SG are not in agreement then. Just a side factor, this is the same Kunda who had supported the nolle for Bulaya in the Sokoni/Bulaya saga, where is Bulaya today? Why should we believe the integrity of Kunda in this case? I have no objection in the sale of Zamtel, actually I think it is overdue, that company has remained in the 19th century. Next should be Zesco.

  36. Free Advice to the brainwashed POST Newpaper editorial believers, please learn to look for similar information from different sources and make up your independent analysis from the sourced news.

    The POST Newspaper is a business entity which is simply writing articles that will help it sell and make money at the end of the day. So they have to keep you busy with news that will always make you want to read the next episode of their stories/tales.

    Thus don’t be quick to finger point anyone, but seek the whole TRUTH and the truth shall set you free.

  38. “The Vice President further said that it was unfortunate that the Zamtel mater has been heavily politicized by the Post Newspaper and that it appeared to government that the paper had acted as investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner of the matter”.

    “the paper had acted as investigator, prosecutor, judge, jury and executioner of the matter”.

  40. Two things remain unanswered by Kunda. the first is when did the AG advise Dora. 2. who awarded the contract. its behind these two that the issue is based. all can be explained and said but we dont need a press conference to answer these two questions. pointing fingers at post is not our interest as govt they should just say it once. references to the post is just giving the post power. they are the grz as Hhehhehhehhe has put it. they are in control. now if they also respond to any rubbish then we are in trouble. Grz should tka e a stand.and be brave

  41. It have forewarned many times that Mmembe has overrated himself beyond reality.He takes character assassination too casual and issues personal.His ground are very shaky.Great men have fallen and history has written them off.Every day i see Mmembe’s space getting narrow.Personally,i will not be shocked that he on calvary.RB is a seasoned Politicians unlike Mwanawasa who bought the slander strategy.I pitty the poor chap stuck in hatred and lies.

  42. When asked by PF Kantashi member of parliament Yamfwa Mukanga on how many Zambian companies were approached to value Zamtel assets, Siliya said no other company approached the Ministry of Communications and Transport other than those that wanted to buy off government shares in the company – Post 16/02/09

    So in other words there was a Tender put out and as such voids the argument that gov’t single sourced.

    “the Solicitor General who acted in the Attorney General’s capacity had made further consultations and approved the signing of the Zamtel MOU between government and RP Capital of Cayman” – Who did the Solicitor General contact for further consultation? We don’t want half baked inform

  43. the thing here is the linkage of information that the AG adviced Dora not to go ahead. let me imagin from this point. RB told Dora go ahead nobody will know am the prezido. Dora went ahead. things where revealed. Dora goes back boss things are in post. RB says defend it create a story lets look at post’s interests in this case and divert the attention of weak brains. Oh yes boss i ll base on personality not issues after all zambians are easy to convince. she tried post dug its heels to bring out more. She was called back RB came out spoke. fire went off with the word nonsense. now Kunda has been called in because he appears dignified. but it not personality its the issue.

  45. tomorrow cum quickly we read post…more money post… :d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/:d/

  46. one interesting thing is that the letter he has selectively cooked news on is a classified document for limited circulation to statutory office holders only and i mean “only”.Mmembe has never taken oath to access state secrets under the laws of Zambia.Its good the Police have instituted a trail investigations will of espionage.I wait to see where things rest in this subortage intended game.

  47. senoir citizen a u from chipata. u sound so dont refuse. u are lazalo vely dalo. sure its not Fred its Dora ur sister. Banda is not a seasoned poliician nichikabwala cha mu fedulo. outdated politician. balipwa. Fred is modern man mind u. banda is mu machanical world ise tuli mu net system click age touch stuff saitamba.

  48. About time they sold part of that crap. Its hindering competition and stalling growth of the telecoms sector in Zambia. Bring in some skilled people to change the company’s direction. The country has stagnated because of non-performing parastatals like Zamtel, though i don’t favour total privatisation. I believe in commercialised government ventures that are self sustaining peopled with professionals and independent boards. No begging bowls. But if they sell, the govt should keep a stake with veto powers to maintain the ICT development agenda. A private company won’t go to Mumbwa if it aint profitable, damn it the government hasn’t either! Who’s screaming for the poor?

  51. All in all Zamtel in -ve US $600 million debt will be evaluated and cabinet decide on its partial privatilization.All this will not be done at the discretion of a tabloid.Harrington has done a noble thing to seek legal interpretation in the high court of Zambia.The bench and the solicitor General’s chamber will interprete the law for him.No country runs Government at the whim of tabloids.Its the same court that are handling the tribunal and prosecutions over the unpaid Millions of US Dollars irregularly gotten from the Zambia Development Bank. Tax payers want it all plouged in other needy sectors.

  53. Senior Citizen i like Fred. if u hate him then u either belong to chiluba rigme or u belong to banda. Post never loses cases. they know what they are doing…believe me. its like Sata the other outdated politician but better than RB since he doesnt sleep thats the only difference. but all belong to machanical world not the touch world and click age and remote globe. it seems u also belong there…even Teta is quiet then things are not ok. if u want to believe Fred is right why is Teta and Ronnie quiet and Mpombo.and ka mulogoti. these imbmwa are quiet why?

  54. ba #51 with all respect please, this is not about the Post, this is about the future of Zambia. Why bring the Post? Even Reuters is covering the story… Please put aside your hatred for individuals and support the development of our country

  55. 46 Senior Citizen greetings and great points. I just hope the President RB Banda Administration will tighten the information leakages from our GRZ offices and also use real politics not to respond to anything the POST Newspaper produces as story tales.
    I would also like to see a situation where the Minister of Information does his job of reporting to the Zambians any GRZ’s position on matters of National Interest as opposed to the current situation where any Minister can say something to the public at any time regarding the Government’s moves.
    Also, let Minister of Justice/ Vice President/ former Attorney General George Kunda assume 1 position as this overload he has may bring confusion.

  56. This matter of corruption will cost MMD alot. We will not forget come 2011. Nyama Soya will not have continue trampling rules like Zambia is his farm.

  59. There is too much ignorance here. It is clear why the govt wants the matter referred to the courts; they never lose there. The judges are in Nyama Soyas pockets. There are too many simpletons here implying that we as citizens can not think on our own. We need some corrupt judge to tell us what to believe.

  60. #
    47. KING COBRA, please let us not bring in tribes here. Tribalism will not help to develop Zambia. The Senior Citizen has been very useful on this LT blog by providing insight to younger minds like mine.

    What matters as of now is that the Senior Citizen is a Zambian.

    I know that KING COBRA the Undereducate is quick on using tribalism by pointing at other people’s tribes are being tribal but let us not entertain the Old man’s bad ways of doing Zambian politics of old. We have 2011 to give the MMD a red card if they are found wanting in the next few months when elections time come very soon.

  63. Tender procedures layed down by ZNTB are clear enough for any grade seven to understand. Dora broke the rules and one way or another she will pay for her impunity and corruption. We miss LPM. He would not have allowed this situation. Dora would have been a Nyironga. Nyama Soya will never prosecute a fellow corrupt politician. He embraces them instead.

  64. As for The Post, all I can say is that where would Zambia be? How many issues involving corruption have been carefully hidden by corrupt politicians only to be brought out by The Post? Whatever their motives are, they are doing Zambia a great service.

  69. Government position on this matter looks a bit poorly as they shift to playing defense. If Government were right, they would be all over the Post Newspaper by now…!! But, due to the fact that the paper has some elements of truth in their reporting, Government seems to be choosing their words carefully. If the Zambian Government is right 100% and backed by evidence, what law would stop the mighty Goverment of Zambia from invading a company like the Postnewspaper…?!! 😕

  71. 69. JD,

    Simple logic.Bureaucratics are systemic in decision making. They don’t act like that they have existing SOPs to avoid defacing themselves.Do you know how long it too the JFK administration to respond to the October crisis or movement of Japanize into Hawaii that made the Perl Harbor (SP) crisis?.There are three layers of analysis and Decision making in Government.Among them is systemic level of analysis. Unless its an act of mass damage like military attack that is when rapid decision is made mostly between the The commander inChief, the chief of staff, National security council Chairman on one side and the Commander General who mobilizes his ballion chiefs for chain response.

  72. #65. Sony Mbeba Phiri greetings. On your “Maestro ni mwana wa VJ Mwaanga HEHEHEHHEHHE A HE HE HE. Afuna kudya…”, VJ Mwaanga is my relative according to my mother but my immediate family members (mama, brothers and sisters) and I all have never met him personally.

    The relation stems from the fact that we come from the place in Choma under Chief Mapanza according to my mama. However, my late father, a former civil servant, who died approx. 20 years ago never let us as a family to be linked to the extended family members like VJ for some reason. However, he worked hard enough to leave behind money that has brought me this far in education together with all resources from retired mama.

  73. Guys what is wrong is wrong ,what our sister did was not was correct . The problem with our leaders is that they are not honest people. Dora will go in no matter what!

  74. I see no justification to act in an emmergency manor.Its a legal issue that is subjective to investigation on either side.Impulsive response would legimize innuendoes.Hope in your dreams government you will not be acting like that.Teach yourself Government or read extensively.Thus far GRZ response has been good otherwise a culture of scanderous geto Journalism would be growing big its evil face on the nation typical of attention seekers.

  75. #71 my only conclusion can be ba Senior Citizen mwaKOLEWA SANAAAAAAAAA!!!!!! Pearl Harbour> World War 2? JFK was still a child by that time what have you smoked man pliz, Nanga “ballion chief” ni chani? Pliz bambo tiuze…

  76. #72. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe continued.

    Thus, I don’t need kudya anything from anyone especially those with activities linked with corruption.

    The good Lord God, our Creator, has been good to my family and I would never want/need to jeopardize my chances of making it to heaven by God’s grace through accepting any corruptly obtained money or anything else.

    Later and have a blessed day.

  77. In # 71 i meant “Took” and not too

    Do you know how long it took the JFK administration to respond to the October crisis or movement of Japanize into Hawaii that made the Perl Harbor (SP) crisis?.There are three layers of analysis and Decision making in Government.Among them is systemic level of analysis. Unless its an act of mass damage like military attack that is when rapid decision is made mostly between the The commander inChief, the chief of staff, National security council Chairman on one side and the Commander General who mobilizes his ballion chiefs for chain response.

  78. Did the Post Newspaper LTD really want to buy ZAMTEL, If thats the case then they are an interested party who can use their paper to disadvantage other potential buyers, remember the post discredited RB for Magande only for us to realise that it had something to do with maintaining Zambian Airways govt favours. Remember articles flowing in the post calling for Govt to bail out Zambian Airways. The post has been creating an impression as if the Country will lose a lot of Tourists as a result of the Airline going under, How many tourists used the Airline, if the Airline was used by a lot of Tourists then it should not had liquidity problems after govt officials stopped using it.

  79. 75. Sony Mbeba Phiri,

    I presume you read with classes my brother.There are two scenarios here not that both were under JFK.Two bureaucratic decision challenged Americans in their one of them being the October Crisis and other one the Pearl Harbor (SP).Hope you gat it.

    Do you know how long it took the JFK administration to respond to the October crisis or movement of Japanize into Hawaii that made the Perl Harbor (SP) crisis?.

  80. OK Senior Citizen please define “ballion chief” as I have made a GOOGLE search and there is nothing my brother. Thanks

  82. I recall coming across this ballion word during my mandatory National service training as an old army days word for battalion. Senior Citizen did you also go for national service or served in the active duty. You have shocked me with your command on issues.

  84. Whatever lies george kunda is cooking up i don’t agree with. all i can say is that the law will definitely take its course and no one will be spared. so mr kunda remember that, mark my words. where is Rev Nyirongo today??

  86. Ndipo nkhani yalula. Even dora is joining me in jail. At least I shall have company. This world is very unfair. when I took a bribe, LPM fired me and had me jailed. Dora has taken an even larger bribe, RB is not firing her. Instead he travels with her and the Vice president is defending her and yet we are both MMD memebers. I`m a corrupt minister and i know a fellow corrupt minister. In this case my collegue Dora is as corrupt as me. Sorry, the waden hs come. i have to hide the laptop and pretend to be sleeping. 4 years is a long time of being here.

  90. Yes, Dora may end up in prison for what I call uninformed militancy. If you failed form 5 and you do night School and finally end up at the University, then you have what we call patched up education. That education may give you a degree but the tools of analysis are very blunt. I think but am not sure this could be Dora’s problem. Read the scenario and analyse ti without being directed. She seems to be a clerk in her mind and wants directives when she is supposed to be using facts to defend herself. She does need the Vice President to defend her actions.

  91. I am not sure that lipstick is for use during the day .it is a night colour for working girls or winter colour not of a night colour

  93. # 71 true!! While I agree with the simplified logism in the analysis of this predicament…Government/Post newspapers, my point of view is that the MMD is in a critical situation at the moment regarding their reputation and they cannot afford to lose at any more of it at any cost. This issue could make the MMD lose the elections/power in 2011!! Now, if this is not an issue that can cause damage to their image, among others what is? The battle between the MMD/Post goes way back, and Mmembe seems to win most of the time. This is why, I said in #65 that, MMD would jump at the opportunity to bury the Post Newspapers if they can prove otherwise… fabrication of the truth by the post!;)

  94. Boy George, you’re merely stating the bleeding obvious, son. I’ll tell you what you do. Accept that ba Post do not have a thread of ethics in their newsroom. The only factual things in that ka newspaper of theirs are the date and obituaries. Not even SANGWAPO is to be trusted. :d:d:d:d

  95. “Dora has tried to conjure up a thousand conjectures. She has tried to come up with all sorts of insinuations against us, and we have waited patiently because it was necessary to wait. This differentiates us from her and her friends. We know how to wait; we know how to be patient; we never despair. We are not in a rush. They live in perpetual despair, they are in a rush to get rich. They live in perpetual anguish, in perpetual lying, in the most ridiculous and infantile way. “

  97. JD # 93,
    You left me laughing with your perspective.Your friend is immortal or havened on mass.You have a long way to learn that the world has many teeth and cannot be destroyed by a simple chap.

  98. even richer countries like the uk are talking about british jobs for the british.why is a third world economy giving jobs to foriegners?simple;ignorance and corrruption

  101. ewe DORA.. lipstick ya red fyakale.. !!! na vasalini ku menso ku li very shiny shiny.. fyakale!!! lip gloss..mommy bater yet lip chap lol

  102. The problem of doing things secretly makes someone suspecious will come up with a story. Transparency is the only answer if hot stories are to be avoided. In the meantime the paper has a point until proven otherwise.

  105. As usual the MMD has something to hide, the same G. Kunda is still hiding a letter authored by one Sokoni (former DPP)

  106. Wake-up Zambians. Why let such things take place after so may years of independence. Don’t tell me there are no technically qualified people in Zambia who can conduct an evaluation. If we are able to put Zambian educated lawyers to take care of legal matters, why not find engineers, accountants, and others to conduct the evaluation of Zamtel Assets? The process starts from looking at the original purchase price of the assets then tag on them a logical annual devaluation percentage. I am sure the company that is hired will do just that to get it over with and get paid what has been promised.

  107. Going a step further, if indeed as a nation, we would like to put money in people’s pockets in the country, why take the money outside the country? It is time we created jobs for those that are not doing anything but have qualifications that will help Zambia move forward. Let’s share the wealth.

  108. **== we all know that kunda, is a lawyer and is just manipulating the system by abusing the office he has been placed in….WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND…one day!!!one day!!!!!!!!!

  109. Please note that the chosen valuator will not get paid the cited minimum. They will cook the numbers to see to it that the minimum payment is exceed. Just watch and see.

  111. #110, Dora azola mixture of palibe kantu. It is a portion used to take milandu away. If you have a court case and you take the palibe kantu root or lotion the judge tongue gets diasbled

  112. Guys, lets not separate good health from healthy reasoning. Any person with even one brain cell will tell you that Kunda’s reasoning has been compromised with his failing healthy. Sure, a patient is a patient. Thats the reason why when you are sick, you go on sick leave. Kunda must be retired on medical grounds. He can think any more. His face can be seen by all, blind and those with eyesight that the man is a shadow of himself. We dont want a bye-apointment. VIVA heathy VIPS we want

  114. # 9 cutey /wifey

    If GEORGE KUNDA is saying that the post if way off the mark,
    why are they having difficulties sueing? Because they know that
    they will have to prove that their actions over Zamtel were above board ,which my dear is very very very difficult. 😕

  115. Now that the post can not publish stories on Chiluba, they have to find other means to make the paper sell. they too are serving a rotten egg.

  119. Goerge Kunda and his minnions at it again.He is a liar,Yes we still rememeber how he tried to defend the criminal Kashiwa Bulaya. He said that no credible evidence to do a conviction, look where kashiwa is today?IN JAIL.He did not answer to issues raised by the POST apart from saying they are legal queries reguiring legal answers.Sick George spare us. When the post support them, they become bed fellers, when the POST & Church question them, they Blame the paper of political motives. Bullsh*T George and adulterous Dora, dont lie through your teeth, be honest for once.

  121. 116. Ndime nguwe,

    You tickle me with your dreams as if its in your hands to turn tables when you are just an armchair critic.Why haven’t you succeeded in 1996, 2001,2006,2008 and now you are looking to 2011 with a Ghost to turn the tables for you.Good luck as i will be reading about more of your helpless emotions here.

  122. George Kunda was just murr murring on tv (eh!eh! eh eh) in trying to defend dora like a boy whose been caught dipping his hans in a cookie jar

  124. Thankyou Post Newspapers for alerting us on issues affecting our beloved country, which is being ruled by a very corrupt govt.

  125. Kunda is a soft spoken guy who cannot full anyone. Why does he have deny that there is a cost of Us$ 2million when Dora publicly said it. There is something so wrong about the all affair that the VEEP has to come out and defend our lovely Dora. On the post side there there is vindictiveness in there reporting. How come there so quiet about Zambian Airways? They also should be objective rather than subjective. We need the truth now. In future we should prosecute even people who supported a wrong thing like Kunda. Zambia we chalo chabwina Kristu. Bushe tulelola Kwi?

  126. The biggest question is, WHO DEALS WITH COMPANIES IS CAYMAN ISLANDS apart from those who want to hide assets? Just dealing with Cayman Island is reason enough to suspect you thugs of stealing and trying to hide assets on that island. Pliz, Kunda, this is worse than what people were talking about happening in the Chiluba err. You guys belong at Mukobeko right now. Thieves. Thank you Post for bringing it up.

  130. Tick, tock, tick, tock…. Time is running out not only for Dora, but the whole MMD r on the way out!!! Good ridance & well done to The Post for unearthing the garbage that is going on under SHREK. Somebody said do not insult your leaders, but then what if they deserve it?? What can one do???

  131. The POST’s desperate fundraising scheme will result in self inflicted blows to the head. Long gone are the ethics it so cherished and upheld. What is left is a shadow of its former self feeding on its past achievements. The fall from grace is obvious and undeniable. The clueless pursuit of enticing articles, half baked stories without an ethical shred and outright lies to steal the attention of the gullible, will not suffice.

    This way, they have not gone before. It is just a matter of time and the eminent reality of thier fall will be clear for all to see.

  132. #16 meastrio- I was thinking the same. Why talk about when you can simply take this chap mmembe to court. unless you are not so sure of yourselves grz? :-w

  133. Yazanda lelo ni mu Chilyati Mayo Dora!!!!!!!!!! I could not believe what Hon Kunda was saying having been in law for a while. Please Sir if you have nothing it is better to keep quite. That was nonsense as Nyama soya said to have the VP telling lies. We all know very well that if the post are telling lies why don’t they take them to court. What u need to do is tell the nation that you are wrong and as for forgiveness just as simple as that. Dora tuka kumona you think u are very educated but you will find your fellow friend who are more sharp than you in Mukobeko look at Glads, Dr Bulaya, samuel Musonda to mention a few. Please musiye malo muchibokayila

  134. I believe people in govt should not skip certain controls which have been put in place. Partial privitisation of Zamtel is not a simple issue thats why it has raised alot of dust especially with the experience we had with privitisation of mines people felt cheated.
    George should rebuke dora where right pricedure was not followed rather than been defenceive

  135. Three years ago, this same George claimed there was no strong evidence to convict and accordingly, as a matter of public interest, he had directed the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Chalwe Mchenga to enter a nolle and stop the prosecution of Bulaya.
    When The Post broke the story and said that the government had interfered in the prosecution of Bulaya, there were denials and many accusations were heaped on The Post. We were accused of being anti-government, anti-Mwanawasa, we were said to be hateful of George. In short, we were called all sorts of names and accused of all sorts of things.

  136. WE MUST TIGHTEN OUR BELTS ALL THE PEOPLE IN ZAMBIA.AM PLANNING TO GO TO MALAWI TO BE A CITIZEN THERE THAN ZAMBIA….WE SHALL CONTINUE CRYING WITH THESE POLITICIANS:((:((:((

  137. The price of breaching ethical standards is a costly one even for those that deliberately choose to think that they are not restricted by the fetters of ethical Practice.

    By default, the laws of our country require the exercise of ethics by all, no matter how trivial the engagements. A small child at school will not be allowed to concoct lies against its own parents.

    The POST covered and protected by the state in its practice must ensure that they work within ethical norms. Not even the state will accuse them if they operate and practice within these norms.

  138. IF ANY ONE CORRUPT FREE ENOUGH CAN COME UP WITH AN IDEA OF HOW ZAMBIANS CAN DONATE FUNDS TO HELP PERSUE CORRUPTION CASES LIKE DORA SILIY’S CASE I WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE. I CAN EVEN SPPEAR HEAD THE DONATION CAMPAIGN HERE IN AUS AS MANY WOULD BE WILLING TO DONATE TOWARDS SUCH VERNTURES.

  139. Well,well,well. Time is the worst enemy to mankind bez it is always ticking towards RP’s completion of evaluation. What happens there after…Its time!

    I hear Fred M’membe is intersted in buying CelZ. Any information?

  141. Government have procedures and standard practice which help to regulate against abuse. The Tender procedures are clear and as pointed out by Mr. Kunda, all was followed and even more with professional advice from A.G and S.G.

    The Party that jumped the gun was the POST newspapaper, by relying on leaked information upon which it made its allegations. To have the audacity to yet go ahead and publish these allegations based on thie piece meal, inadquate information is a risky one and one which could prove costly.

    If the GRZ wished to put a nail on the POST, this could be their chance but I believe the government does not want to deliberately kill this tabloid yet.

  142. George says,what the post is giving is not the whole picture.What does this mean,the picture is there,meaning whatever has been raised is part of the whole picture.He doesn’t call the post liars rather,says,their comment is politically driven.George is in effect agreeing with the post but,only disagrees with the post’s political approach to the issue.He says,the post’s story is erroneous,incomplete,blur….let him give give us the complete story and let him define erroneous and incomplete in this context.Otherwise george kunda is just playing with legal jargon.he condemns the story but does dispute it.he says it was leaked,is this to say,true but political,the question begs?

  144. General Laura Nkunda

    Very few people shouting out that Tender procedures were breached have a slight clue of what they are ranting about!

    I would rather people talk about making the whole Tender process more transparent and available to the public. But at the same time to advise people to acquaint themselves with GRZ policy statements and the republican constitution.

  145. Sanibonani bazalwani?( hello brethren)

    Just wanted to greet you before going into class.

    Rashid

    Missing you Bro.Got your mail.

    Have a blessed day.

    Iam off. :-j:-j:-j:-j

  146. ninthan

    You are a heartless devil with pretentions of humanity. Go worship your father satan and dont bring such indescriminate hatred on this blog.

  148. For sure the Gvt has not accussed the post of lying and has not disputed the contents of the leaked Letter. Now My Question what came First the Solicitor General authorising the MOU or The Attorney General Complaining about advice not being followed.

    If th time The SG gave a go ahead for the MOU is when the AG was out of the Country then why did the AG write that letter to the Minister. In My opinion George Kunda has not responded to the Critical Questions.

    And in this da and Age can a company come to Zambia to offer free services worth billions of Kwacha as in the case with SELEX. Something is fishy and Fred Mmembe and the Post are very right.

  149. General Laura Nkunda

    Mr Kunda is not at all agreeing with the POST. Being a professional man, he will not steep so low as to imitate the language of the uncourth POST. The best defense against the foul mothed, unethical, immoral POST is to stick to civilty and honesty coupled with Professionalism. Against these, they will rant and do whatever to no avail. Well done Mr Kunda.

  152. i belive there are local companies that are able to perform that job at a better price other than wasting tax payers money at such a time when the country’s economy is unstable. govt leaders should learn to think productively.

  153. let us always debate issues without insults and hatred. May god save zambia.Indeed only time will tell. My prayer is that god should protect and save the weak in society. God should give wisdom to our leaders so that they may save us their people and not themselves.

  154. #4 you are way out of line. I agree with #17’s sentiments. Lets us discuss the issue at hand and not George’s status. Do you know your status? In any case would George be the first one? We need to address the issue of who is hiding the truth.

  155. #135 The Post. I agree with you. How I wish Kunda could have defended Rev G Nyirongo. Is a question of “MARKETABILITY” between the old Rev and the Young Dora?

  156. Let us look at the security of Zed. Zamtel is the heart. If govt leakages are encouraged and then you decide to privatise Zamtel then more leakages will be allowed at international level. Let us do good for our country.
    Those personalising issues must be serious. talk about functions of pipo and not how they look like. If you take it personal then sata also must be talked about, but not such should be encouraged. Let us be men and women of integrity. Common guys.

  157. Remember the Ryan Chitoba saga,the ex DEC man,he ruffled a few feathers amongst his junior staff.Next,they took him by leaking out confidential documents.Don’t mess with your juniors in these ‘boma’ offices.The filing system in da boma is bureacratic and the level of gossip is such that even the office orderly will know about the bosses misdemeanors.Mess them up,your ugly files will be all over the show.I see difficulties with dora perfoming her duties effectively.The fight against dora is bigger than you see it-magande,post,the nchito brothers,tender board officers and transport ministry officers,attorney general and the board members she fired,aint they all privy to her dealings.It’s tight

  158. The POST will eventually seek the attention of sympathisers by crying foul and accusing GRZ of ‘attacking their rights to freedom of speech and expression’. But this will be just an attempt to lobby for financial support from foreign donors and funders.

    This is part of their reason to up their act suddenly hoping that soon this will dreaw the attention of sympathisers.

    But I would wish that funders and donors will not be hoodwinked this time around but demand that the ‘POST’ PROVE THAT THEY STILL HOLD TO ETHICAL STANDARDS.

  159. DORA AND HER LIPSTICK!

    I believe you mr Kunda, the post newspaper only aims at critising for there own interest of rotten publicity when we know they are also corrupt!

  161. Professionalism and ethical practice can be upheld without confrotational approach. The vested interest of the POST in matters that SILIYA has been handling is unquestionable.

    The fact that ZA which the POST are an interested party raises issues of ACCOUNTABILLITY which implicate them is enough reason to judge that their motives in their insistent attack of SILIYA are questionable.

  162. The paper that digs deeper ,fili ukotuleya, maybe meembe is right after all ,in this age of investigative journalism anything is possible

  163. Why is it so difficult for GRZ to sue the post if at all, our gov is got nothing to hide? let the gov prove to the post that they are clean rather than defending themselves, even when they know it deep down their hearts. What is wrong is wrong, if G. Kunda has defended the criminal Kashiwa Bulaya before what can stop him from defending Dora? Please this is the only country we have! lets not try to defend people anyhow.

  164. GRZ information is leaking. Examination papers at all levels have been leaked at a gigantic scale. It appears everything is leaking.[-([-(

  165. **==**==

    The Post should shed light on the pipo that were evicted from the Ng’ombe land and dumped along Great North Road. am told they also own part of that land. why rush to discredit Dora? Remove the Log in your own eye before noticing the peck in your friend’s eye. Post shed light about your workers’ salaries. Natumfwa ati nizanda sana. Any inform us on both. Radar, Zamtel and Yourselves. LT remind the Post about this.:d:d:d/:d/:o:o

  166. Georgie has come out with some interesting facts. Problems with chaps pa Zed, Mmembe cooks up some drama, and you all get erections! Easy does it, the truth will surely come out. Mmembe applied for a mobile phone operating license and was turned down hence his intense beef with Dora. Read the VPs statement and make a logical conclusion, Dora acted according to procedure and $2m has NOT been paid to RP Capital.

  167. Ba veep, ubufi bulabwela ka! I hope you are telling the truth because if the opposite is the case then you may have to face some music later ka. The precedence has already been set. Nyirongo and sharing her apartment with cockroaches and other insects in a not so luxurious Lusaka prison ka.

  168. the mistake is not the mistake it become the mistake when you made a mistake.

    that boy is the corrupt man.teti tubombe naba kasola wandalama.

    come 2011 no one will sheed blood on other person.
    lets build zambia.mwe bantu.

    Can you explain the word Rupiah, Dora,Kunda in the zambian Dictionery.emplty mind.Bonse nifwiti.

  169. Let’s have a tribunal or formal enquiry with all players involved so we can get to the bottom of this. Clearly something still stinks! And RB’s children’s involvement?

  170. Good job the post please continue to expose these filth leaders we have, where is G.Ks professionalism and ethical pratice when he’s busy defending the wrong deeds, please! spare us.

  171. I have read this story again. It seems Mr. Kunda is hiding something. If the AG’s advice was contrary to what Dora Siliya did, how can a surbordinate Counsel sign on behalf of the AG? Why haven’t they asked the AG to clarify the matter instead of speaking on his behalf?
    On the other hand, do we really need a private company to value the assets of Zamtel when has a complete audit department presumably manned by even more qualified people than thosee at RP? Where is our prudence if the money realised from the sale of public assets is going to benefit an off shore Company? Something is seriously wrong here and we need to keep our eyes open.

  172. The thing that is clear is that the POST have such a low opinion and estimation of the public. It seems from them that an average Zambian is gullible enough to sway and control.

    They have this fantanstic notion that they are the custodians of truth and justice and that they are capable of fashioning public opinion. This is the very reason literacy must be encouraged to permeate across the majority of our population.

    What they propagate must remain opinions and not more.

  175. When Nevers Mumba issued a statement on ‘behalf’ of the President and the President refuted, what does that become? An associate of Solicitor General’s office ‘approved’ the procedure but the Attorney General advised against it. How does it become the SG acting on behalf of the AG? Please enlighten us.

  176. Let us for once ask ourselves this- How on earth did ZA manage to borrow $6.5million dollars without collateral? There are no assets to show fourth as possible expenses.

    But obviously personal assests have sprung up in the course of operations of ZA. The POST so far refuses to link their $3 million bank loan as direct investment into ZA! This is a tricky and dicey thread to hang on.

    Soon if not already, there will be serious in-fighting between shareholders of ZA and the POST. This will eventually emerge and wont need the daily editions of the tabloid to spill out.

  180. UILO,i understand your sentiments about membe.However,you are only analysing against one side,the post.You would be more objective if you also discussed how george’s statement implicates dora.To me,george is saying from the above story that,the post’s story is incomplete and motivated politically.He does not call the post liars or dispute anything therein.All the post needs to do is to reconcile the facts at hand.Post as a company,just like any other have a right to buy stake in ZA or have a mobile phone for that matter.Besides,why should dora turn them down when the communications authority is the mandated body to approve or disapprove licences based on technical knowledge and understanding

  181. The truth’s that The Post has always been telling ‘lies’ from the time they started publishing. The problem with the ‘lies’ told by The Post is that these lies die and they turn out to be the truth, after all.So we wait to see when this ‘lie will die’, and become the truth.

  182. The POST obviously made a serious oversight investing in ZA this will prove their downfall. On matters pertaining to the ZA, a much bigger scandal by comparison to this ‘cooked up Zamtel scandal’, they are completely mute.

    They would have us believe that theirs is no issue at all! The case will soon be in court and grz will benefit from the Taxpayer for its expenses. Will the donors hold for ZA/POST?

  183. At least we are going to have two honourables in jail. Gladys nyirongo and Dora siliya.They will share cigarettes with Xavier Chungu,Musengule,FTJ,in the same cell with hardcore dishonourable murderers,Rapists and Robbers.

  185. 176,UILO,you can in certain financial transactions get a loan without collateral as long as you’ve got a good business proposal to go with.Remember ZA used to make money and had profitable routes to service,the problem was in them remitting back dues owed.Any bank would have given them at that time coz,their flights were always full,they generated income.
    The $3m post got from finance bank cannot from a financial and legal point of view be linked to ZA,it’s the post paying back to finance bank.How they used and invested the money is there business.All finance is interested in is pay-back byy the post.

  186. The half truths being relied on in the POST’s allegations against SILIYA make no basis to discredit and condemn her. The point that Mr Kunda is making is clear- the very thing that you accuse me of, being one sided! The POST should have bothered to pursue the matter further before deciding to release half truths which esentially and technically amout to lies.

    However, my issue with the POST is there vested interest in matters associated with the engagements of the lovely SILIYA – The ZA saga. The POST have serious issues to deal with over the ZA saga and they are playing dumb. These ranting attacks on SILIYA by them (POST) appears to me is an attempt to divert attention from the issues

  187. ZAMBIANS, CORRUPTION DID NOT START WITH ME.JUST UNDERSTAND ME,I AM NOT MARRIED AND NEED TO FEED MY FATHERLESS BASTARD CHILDREN.AT LEAST OUR LEADERS ARE GENEROUS TO RECOGNISE THAT I CAN ALSO PLEASE THEM SOMEHOW WITH MY GREAT BODY.SO I WIN FAVOURS.AT LEAST GEORGE USES A CONDOM. ITS EASY FOR ME TO MANIPULATE HIM WHEN I WANT.I ENJOY TRAVELLING WITH RB.THOSE PRIVATE MOMENTS ARE GREAT.I MAKE HIM RELAX AFTER A HEAVY DAY ABROAD.HE IS YOUNG AT HEART.SO NO ONE CAN PUSH ME AROUND.IAM HERE TO STAY!!!!

  189. “….Attorney General dealt with the matter when he returned back from the African Union Human Rights Duties abroad.” Returned back???=))

  190. Everyting happening is good for development. If Maestro genocide Hhehhehhe pulls to one end then the other chap on other. One we get together

  191. #159 I dont agree with you because the Post has done alot in exposing corruption and most of these cases have successfully been prosecuted in the courts of law.
    Just look at government newspapers they stink!!!

  192. I think this govt is full of people who ar not serious with whatever they ar doing.it’s not the post who ar telling lies but the veep and siliya. We urge them to learn from what has happened to other corrupt ministers ,senior government officers like sakala,nyorongo or indeed the former president.They should know that they will one day be out of government and the next government will demand proper explanations than what kunda is barking.

  193. While Dora’s actions on Zamtel and Radar project are questionable, the Post newspaper can never be the only source of verified GRZ infor.

    The Post as we all now know had vested interest in Zambia airways and Zamcell. The Post therefore to me as bad as Dora in manipulating Zambians.

    As Darlington has suggested an independent entity could be set up to probe Dora’s action in the interest of the Nation.

  194. The Trip RB made to the AU, Sata mentioned that RB left the wife and went with Namugala and Dora to Tanzania, Kenya and Malawi. Sata mentioned that Dora & Namugala should be quite and not raffle our feathers since PF knows what went on. The two have never responded. Sata’s stories always mostly come to pass as true. Hmmmm I wonder what went on. Three some. Hmmm.. I wonder what it is was. Hmmm I’m thinking aloud, what went on Hmmmmm.

    Fixing the economy, maybe but which one,of the soul or the country. Hmmm… Unga funte… Hmmmm

  197. General Laura Nkunda

    Fair and square, yes I believe that based on the viabillity of business or Proposal aloan can be granted. But that is not my point. ZA went busrt and that this the issue.

    This case will eventually take off and what I am saying is that the matrix of the people involved includes both the POST and SILIYA. The POST is preparing its defense by pre attacking (premptive action) SILIYA. This can not be overlooked and as such everything they (POST) allege against SILIYA must be taken with a pinch of salt.

  198. Half truths!!!!

    Waiting for the truth!!!

    I guess after 12 years and shall wait!!!

    No developmental issues! Arguing on and about!!

    ZED ZED!!!

  199. George is trying his best to cover this up but the one thing he is not saying is that the option to “single source” is not at the discretion of the Minister.

    According to the provisions of the Act the only the ZPPA (former ZNTB)is allowed to deviate from the provisions of the Act and single source the minister has no power to do so.

    30. (1) The objective of limited selection is to obtain competition
    and value for money to the extent possible where the circumstances
    do not justify or permit the use of open selection.
    (2) Limited selection may be used where-
    (a) the consulting services are only available from a limited
    number of suppliers; or

  202. (b) there is an urgent need for the goods, works or services
    and engaging in open selection would therefore be
    impractical.

    Kunda has failed to explain who was on the list and how they were selected. In addition these services are performed by all the international audit firms in this country and how possible is it that none and I repeat NONE of them showed interest in making K10 billion?

  204. i think we have heard it from both parties,so let an independent body probe this case for they benefit of all zambians including dora herself that is if she is clean.

  205. For those who have forgotten “George Kunda, as justice minister and Attorney General, and Levy tried to do a deal with Bulaya and let him go scot-free. …arising from previous personal dealings with Bulaya. And out of such fear they decided to grant him a nolle. And they dragged the Director of Public Prosecutions, Chalwe Mchenga and the Solicitor General, Sunday Nkonde, into their dirty scheme.
    These two constitutional officers were later embarrassed by their complicity in this unjustified attempt to grant Bulaya a nolle. But instead of admitting their mistake, their poor judgement, they resorted to attacking the people who had been hired to prosecute Bulaya

  206. Brother George, just reproduce the MOU and then we can make our own conclusions instead of defending people you will later regret defending. There are lawyers who are better than you who whipped you at University who can interpret the law better.

  207. I am amazed that someone can defend ‘lovely Dora’ & attack The Post, its the other way round silly!!! Do not confuse issues here by bringing in ZA/The Post/lovely Dora. The issue is that there was single sourcing of services, meaning tender procedure was ignored by the ‘not so lovely Dora’. The custodian of Zambia’s assets is the Ministry of Finance, hence they should have signed the MoU not your ‘thieving Dora’. Do not insult Zambians by calling them gullible, as they’r able to read between the lines unlike you who is blinded by your hatred for the Post & your lust for Dora Siliya-hule

  208. Too muc wango can make you mad Madam Dora. Yu halucinate actually. Today you are with Mondo, the other day Kazala, Chulumanda, then VJ, then Kunda. Lets learn to cross our legs sometimes.

  211. # 182 UILO

    For goodness sake if you dont give a damn about whats happening back home please keep quite. People here are on the brink of starvation
    because of irresposible behavoiur by our so called leaders.

    Dont be misguided by your comfort we are trully fighting for all Zambians, this is fight is not about the MMD or who ever is in power
    all we want is for people to do the right things when entrusted with responsibilites.

    Please dont be so insensitive and learn to read in between the lines

    Do you think GEORGE Kunda and company are holders of all wisdom and that we in the majority are wrong? think about it [-x[-x[-x[-x

  212. DEBATE CLOSED. Off to eat bufalo in the showgrounds opposite ZAF. chaps are posting comnments even before LT posts a thread! how come!!

  213. lawyers are megalomaniacs. The less they know the more they think they know. By the way has anyone ever heard a lawyer admit that he made a mistake when they lose a case? They will appeal until they can appeal no more and then when they cannot go any further, it is the client’s fault. Now, here we have a problem:
    Half cooked journalists with law degrees and political ambition (Membe et al) against journalist (Dora) and lawyer (George) with half baked political experience. TOXIC! KaBoooom!

  214. MMD be careful. whatever you do pipo are watching. maintain a good name. the Convition of Hon. Nyirongo is a big lesson. the Law will visit every evil doer. [-(

  216. UILO… Debating to show you can argue or pre-empt even

    when you got no facts? Are you the one keeping the RP Capitals, ZA

    and POST files? You might be sitting on a Volcano!!

    Lets try to analyse what the POST is telling us and ask for the

    truth from our Government!:*??? 😕

    Alot others have already told you!!! Keep quiet for a moment and

    borrow simple wisdom from other guys!

  217. Shibumi

    I dont understand me at all, the POST are the ones who think the public are gullible read my previous contributions. I am more interested in the the contributions of ‘The incumbent’ because he attempts to give a reason why an error could have been committed by SILIYA.

    The tender procedures for procurement are essentially the same. The specialists recommend and the adjudicators decide. The role of the adjudicators is to ensure fair play and best bid for the benefit to the nation. Even without refering to particular articles of the ZPPP, I would safely state that the ‘incumbent has misdirected’ himself in this matter.

  219. No. 40 Please read properly. Malila gave his opinion on 5th January when the mOu had already been signed based on SG’s adavice. Ask yourself one thing why has Post not released the opinion given earlier by SG? its because it does not help their lies. As Kunda says when it comes to the actual privatisation the AG’s advice will be considered. Right now all RP Capital is doing is providing a valuation of ZAMTEl to enable GRZ make a decision on the mode of privatisation. This is supposed to be done secretly and hence the single sourcing but then you have criminals in GRZ who leak such documents. ZAMTEl is a strategic institution and the AG’s office has been compromised thats why Kunda is talking

  220. Government has the right to single source without advretising when it is in the national interest or public interest which ZAMTEL is. Do you want everyjim and jack to know that GRZ is dsperate to sell ZAMTEL. This is how you get vultures getting our companies for free. The experience we had on ZCCM where the British controlled the whole process. Rothschilds (British bank) valued the assets and then CDC (British govt company) offered to buy and Valentine Chitalu whose salary was being paid by the same british govt agreed the deal. Chiluba had to come in and this is what lead to his problems and lies of the Post and British Govt. Ask yourself why are they keeping Shansonga in London

  221. If the Post is uzelez then Chiluba and company are not plunderers.Leave the alone and stop persecuting them You selective persecuters. You select whom to persecute. Dora is found with the same corruption that has landed Samuel Musonda, Nyorongo, Bulaya etc. Whats is so special about dora that she is being defended. This makes the fight against corruption so meaningles. If Dora is let go, then you must release bulaya, samuell musonda , nyorongo and lastly stop persecuting Chiluba. This is nosense. 8-x8-x8-x~X(8-x~X(~X(8-x8-x8-x

  222. fellow bloggers you need to think beyond what Post editorials say. The US government had put $20 million into the zamtrop account to buy weapons for Kabila to fight mobutu. but before exposing themselves they paid for OVAG to conduct a clean up of the account and just released info that was against FTJ. They removed all info related to LPM, savimbi operations and DRC operations. thats why FX is suffering for remaining loyal to the State. One day the truth will come out no matter what happens

  223. Tender Board recieves recommendations from specialist Ministries and simply for fair play and best price award contracts. Tender board are not specialist for the various services procured by GRZ.

    In the case of Zamtel, the specialist Ministry is SILIYA’s. The recommendations and reasons for single sourcing are well with the Ministries jurisdiction. Tender board have not a clue of the exercise involved and as such cant not be expected to the initiators of this procurement. That would make them less than transparent and will infact make them an interested party. This is specifically to address ‘the incubent’ position.

  225. MUMBI

    You do the very thing you accuse me of. Read between the lines the POST are interested party. The court case soon to take off involves them and SILIYA’s Ministry. I will not allow myself to be duped by the POST.

  226. # 220 ”Chiluba had to come in and this is what lead to his problems and lies of the Post and British Govt. Ask yourself why are they keeping Shansonga in London”

    SO YOU ARE COMFIRMING THAT CHIBA MWANAWASA AND COMPANY HAVE BEEN PERCUTING CHILUBA? Thats why I am saying please the fight against corruption is useless in Zambia. So meaningless as it is selective. [-([-([-([-([-([-([-(

    • Exactly chi mwanawasa just wanted to persecute his friend for very very personal reasons that FX chungu knows about and made a mistake of telling LPM

    • NO NO MY MAN JUST A ZAMBIAN WHO LOVES THE TRUTH AND LOVES MOTHER ZAMBIA. I HAVE BEEN INSIDER BEFORE ON THESE MATTERS AND I AM SADDENED BY THE LACK OF ANALYTICAL ABILITY AMONGST ZAMBIANS LIVING ABROAD

  228. Uilo
    The Post has in the past unearthed scams like the one ‘lovely Dora’ is involved in. George Kunda has come out to defend the grz position but has ended up embarrassed in the courts of law-eg Kashiwa Bulaya case. No matter what your position is, Uilo, Dora Siliya is going!!! When u pick a quarrel with The Post, u have to be clean otherwise u r gone. They have too much information and data on Dora such that she cannot survive this round, ZA notwithstanding.

    • shansonga was recruite by super ken into the system to specialise in financial transactions on behalf of the state. He was posted to citibank and worked on behalf of GRZ and connected with Mi 6 and cia usa. When FTJ became President shansonga was one of the people handed over and he continued in the same vein and then was appointed Zambian ambassador to USA. He was allowed to leave the country by mark chona the same mark chon who worked for kaunda for 17 years in state house and the same mark chona who kept super kens money. this is the same chona who established taskforce with nchito and Levy. because of blind hatred by both membe and levy chiluba has been falsely accused.

  230. Todays Editorial: ”George seems to believe in sophistry, which is the evil art of trying to use clever sounding arguments to persuade people that something is true when it is false”
    #203 Hola! you are very right,but like you say no morals pa Zed so guess we won’t be seeing any resignations soon. its a shame.

  232. #224 you forgot to add they have been operating for 4 years only since 2004, to restructure a 60 year old establishment, their CV is nothing. And they have czech connections, guys let us not trivialise this issue, this thing stinks all the way

  233. I think the basic idea is to learn from the FTJ saga, every Government believe me has a skeleton or two to hide but when it sees light, let us kill the skeleton for the second time to teach the would be offenders a lesson, we are actually trying to protect ‘lovely Dora’ imagine what will happen to the chabby chicks when she has 3 years time in Chimbs, mwaliyako imwe ku chimbs!!!

  235. Zambians have been crooked,the govt reduced tax on clear beer so as to distract the citizens from real issues going on in govt like the DORA SAGA,shame on us,its sad to see the masses here showing no concerning on what is happening in govt,but go to the pubs and see whats going on,people busy zoobing lagers at a low price and not minding the trashing happening.My hear bleeds for my beloved country,Arise Zambia from your Slamber!

  236. So RP Capital have already been paid for work ‘not’ yet done???
    Just like our incompetent Govt paid $20M to Katoto to supply arms which never showed up.When will we ever learn?

  237. Assuming pitiful postures by Dora will not help. She just has to start packing because when it comes to the crunch, not even SHREK nor the Red Lipped Serpant will save her!

  238. Shibumi

    I agree that the POST has previously unearthed some issues but they have also made numerous errors in the past as well. To be balanced you need to see both sides of the matter which I see you dont. You have placed the POST on a high pedastal. I dont have the same views of them any more.

    In as far as Iam concerned, the POST have compromised their standards and cant not be relied upon. That is my opinion, you have yours.

  241. Shibumi

    From your language in #237 and elsewhere I cant miss to see that you are a typical PF cadre and this alone is enough to explain your position on the matter under discussion.

    SATA perhaps has transffered and inculcated his spirit in you.

  243. Not long ago the POST were insulting SATA and today SATA is sharing the same bed with MMEMBE! how interesting.

    The POST lack integrity and principle. For convenience sake, they will sleep with SATA if it suits their aims no matter the price.

    Where is the singleness of purpose and heart in the POST? If today it suits them, they will defend SATA and sell him out the next day if doesn’t.

  244. It is clear that most PF cadres will side with the POST. The PF people have hardly the courage to admit defeat and thus their unfounded and biased leaning towards anything cooked up by the POST who have been acting as image builders of SATA.

    Who said that a crow needs image building, it still remains an urgly bird. No matter what lies can be concocted by the POST, NOTHING WILL DO.

  245. The issue at hand is a very serious one and so is AIDS. as such i feel very dissapointed with “fire Peter Chintala’s ” comment. its very insensitive and in itself reminiscent of why we are so poor. its about issues not personalities……i rest my case.

  247. Single sourcing is not a crime as the POST and some individuals are implying… it is as part processes of GRZ procuring of goods and services.

    If RP has tendered ‘unsolited’ bid for valution of Zamtel assets, this could qualify under the current PPP GRZ policy. The PPP policy welcomes unsolited bids.. now the catch is how does GRZ open the ‘unsolited bid’ to other entities without violating the intellectual property of the first unsolited bidder.

    This Dora saga is a result of GRZ ambigious rules…single sourcing Vs unsolited bid Vs tenders processes.

    GRZ can justify legally on single sourcing…on the other hand one can still point to a violation in ‘tender procedure’.

  248. THE POST AND FRED MMEMBE STINKS.ZAMBIANS HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN HOW THEY SUPPORTED MAGANDE AND MAUREEN FOR MMD PRESIDENCE SO THAT THEY CAN COME AND BAIL OUT ZAMBIAN AIRWAYS.THE POST BECAME PF MOUTH PIECE.

  249. Without the Post there is no truth, without PF there is no opposition. The Post is doing a very good job by making people to work. I wish their masters were working like masters. We need to know what is happening to tax we religiously pay. Takwaba.

  250. How can MMEMBE be a custodian of truth when he defies the logic of nature by his lifestyle. Mmembe is a well known the street kids of livingstone. He has been abusing these kids for a long time now. We know him.

  251. We also know that the POST contributed finacially to SATA campaign trails. SATA who cant be trusted will eventually sell out.

  252. Imwe bonse, read “incurmbent’s” contributions on 199, 202 and 205. He’s making so much sense. They say those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. Trusting GK is like using a failed condom for your next round….

  253. We are having serious problems at the Ministry of Transport and communication.Zambian Airways,vodocom licence,International gateway,Zamtel,Railway systems of Zambia ,Natonal Airports ,radrs etc.To me all these problems are man made and resulting either from incompetence or greedy. The whole Ministry needs to be investigated started from the Minister.

  254. SOME OF US ARE AWARE THAT THESE OFF-SHORE COMPANIES ARE THERE IN ORDER TO INDULGE IN DEALS, DEALS, DEALS. ZAMBIAN GOVERNMENT PLEASE BEWARE. pLEASE BEWARE, PLEASE BEWARE. THAT COMPANY IS THERE TODAY. GIVE IT THE MONEY, IT DISAPPEARS OUT OF THE MAP. IT TAKES UP ANOTHER NAME. YOU WILL HAVE NOWHERE TO TURN TO. THAT IS WHAT OFF-SHORE COMPANIES ARE THERE FOR.
    THEY PREY ON UN-SUSPECTING AND NAIVE PEOPLE LIKE DORA SILIYA. PLEASE WATCH OUT. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON UNDER THE SURFACE.
    YOU NEED CLEVER PEOPLE TO DO BUSINESS WITH OFF-SHORE COMPANIES. THAT IS ZAMBIAN MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN. BUT OF COURSE SILIYA WILL GET SOMETHING.

  255. The unholy alliance between the POST and MMEMBE will soon develop cracks then you will see how this ‘dog fight’ will go. Two unprincipled maniacs will scratch and bite each other without shame.

    Just wait and see.

  256. UILO
    Can KUNDA be trusted?we were once duped by him over kASHIWA BULAYA

    What happened when the case went to court? the people of Zambia won.

    Lets wait for the petition to resume if the case goes in favour of Dora i will not be ashamed to own up. At the moment am not ashamed to call this a sham. [-x

  257. THEIVES ,CORRUPT MINDED,DUBIOUS PIPO NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME,THEY ALL ARE FROM SAME REGION>> CAN YOU IMAGINE A SERIES OF THIEVES IN COURTS /PRISON

    BULAYA,CHILUBA,CHUNGU,KABWE, ETC………….,NOW KUNDA IS JOINING !

    SHAMUNA…SHAME.

  258. Phoney issues. I wrote 48 hrs ago that GRZ will look for every excuse to defend one of theirs in Cabinet, Dorika Shaliya. Lets not take this matter lightly. Veep Georgia Kakundala is a senior legal counsel but given his political position, his defensive position on Dorika you either believe it or not. Damage has bin done and coz we dont easily acess information on GRZ dealings so whatever we get from the POST at least helps to be alert. Single sourcing from abroad. We have enough professionals locally to do good job on evaluation of Zamtel assets and liabilities. Why create capital outflight. I guess if GK was to take a lie test wasn’t going to pass it.The whole scenario is PROPAGAND thats

  259. MUMBI

    The angle that the POST have taken is to give impressions that a wrong has been committed by SILIYA. There is no sensible way of looking at the issue that relying on procedure and standard practice.

    The onus is on the POST to prove that this was not followed using a third party not through their biased opinions. They are an interested party. Whatever the case happened with the Bulaya case, this one is as transparent as anyone bothers to check. There is no secrecy about what SILIYA did to warrant the type of attacks coming from the POST.

  260. How i wish my grandy KK can comment about this matter, its making me sick, what it means is that my child will never find any state owned telecom company

  261. MUMBI

    Even there is an anomaly in the procedure, it is not enough to hung SILIYA with. The POST did not have sufficient info to pin SILIYA with. The reasons for picking RP is public knowledge, AG’s advice was sought and incorporated. The POST will not deny this or the AG say otherwise will they?

  263. If people saw MMEMBE for who he really is, they will even wonder why he was not given the name ‘satan’. He is the epitome and exact representation of anything and everything evil, completely fitting and representing all characteristic of satan.

  265. #4 fire Peter Chintala. Let’s have a humane face here. Do u know AIDS i wonder. Grow up. Don’t write anything which comes up in yo rotten head. Think twice about yo comments on George Kunda.:-w

    Meanwhile, let’s wait and see!!:-\”

  266. Uilo;Now we know you. Call us gullible,myopic or whatever. This Dora thing has a few things attached to it.JUST WAIT AND SEE.Iwe ukudya nabo thats why you are blantantly trying to confuse us. Sorry mwana or baMudala, we are not the the Zambians who would believe that one can vote against a frog anymore. Understand you twit. ZA is not the issue here. The issue is did Dora write to cancel a duly awarded contract. Can a Minister single source and not the Procurement Committee? Shut up iwe mataba!!!!By the way Iam not a PF cadre….

  267. MZILIKAZI

    Why have my comments hurt you, my opinions have crazed you my gracious lord. May I be forgiven for causing pain to somebody today.

    My friend I forgive you wholeheartedly!

  268. The facts of the matter still stand, what crime has Dora committed to warrant condemnation?

    What monies have been exchanged to the loss of the state?

    Why dont people see the complete misinformation of the POST?

  269. When POST had the monopoly of the masses, whatever they said easily passed without rebuttal, but not now.

    Everyone has a right to an opinion.

  270. UILO
    ME!! HURT??? UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE DAY!! TRY ANOTHER ONE. FORGIVING ME FOR WHAT? MY FAILURE TO COMPREHEND THE ISSUE AT HAND??? SORRY MWANA!!TRY NEXT DOOR AND BYEEE

  272. MZILIKAZI

    It doesnt hurt to be forgiven even for nothing baba. My tender heart thought I had hurt you, I was concerned. But all the same be blessed!

  274. #243. UILO greetings. On “Not long ago the POST were insulting SATA and today SATA is sharing the same bed with MMEMBE! how interesting. The POST lack integrity and principle. For convenience sake, they will sleep with SATA if it suits their aims no matter the price.” You are on the spot. Someone said birds of the same feathers always flock together.
    The fact is that both the POST and the Undereducate Michael Chilufya Sata are flip-flops how can NEVER be TRUSTED by any rational thinker.I just hope many of us Zambians will wake up after the events of the last few days and show the two: Undereducate and his Imagebuilders a red card so that Zambia can start moving towards real development.

  275. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe

    Thanks man, all the best. These PF people are a big problem. How I wish more would be done to educate these people.

  276. Aka akalihule aka ka 1$ Siliya kalashupa. Its all eyes on her now… Obviously kalikwata akanono… Kukachitye “partial privatise na kena” So that utu tubena kunda utwakwata nigerian manners tulelya ama shares :>

  277. 90 for your information Dora consistently got the highest grade in her class from Lusaka Girls to Kabulonga girls, she did not get to Unuversity through the back door, she actually got between 8 to 6 points ( cant remeber exactly), lets debate the issue rather than throwing mad at her educational qualifications, belive me those are not in DISPUTE. as for #4, to talk so scathingly about a person infected with HIV/AIDS shows what an ignorant, heartless person you are. every Zambian has been affected one way or another, either by being infected themselves or having a family member, or loved one infected, lets us treat this matter with the humilty it deserves. lets debate the issue rather than

  278. Uuuummhuu awe kwena elo lwanya. Aka akalihule aka ka 1$ Siliya kalashupa. Its all eyes on her now… Obviously kalikwata akanono… Kukachitye “partial privatise na kena” So that utu tubena kunda utwakwata nigerian manners tulelya ama shares l-)

  279. What jusctice can a self confessed DEVIL purport to fight for? How can SATAN be the champion of Justice?

    Can a DEVIL fight for what is best for man?

  280. People remember the Post Newspaper want to bring down Dora because she wasn’t for the idea of saving Zambian Airways. I don’t trust The Post newspaper these days.

  281. MMEMBE is a self confessed SATANIST and to choose to believe that he can stand for justice is paradoxical.

    What concept of Justice does the DEVIL have? How can a person who prides in the worship of self be yet a champion of good?

  282. The plain facts of MMEMBE’s lifestyles are clear and dont need further examination. HE IS INFACT WHO HE SAYS HE IS! So why deliberately give yourself to his vice?

  285. Uilo

    whay are you so bitter? Tekanya do you have facts to back you up what are you saying about Mmembe? Oli chipuba. Viva POST Viva Mmembe. Expose corruption :)>-

  287. 185 General Nkunda: the problem is that dbz loaned zambian airways the money when it was very clear that the airline was in trouble. This info was in the public domain. Planes being full is neither here nor there, and should not blind any banker worth his salt and able to make rational decisions. Therefore due diligence was required on the part of dbz as a custodian of public funds. However we know that dbz was pressurised. We also know that other institutions were pressurised too but they stood firm and were vindicated

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