Vice president, George Kunda, has warned serving and former ministers not to divulge confidential government information.
Mr. Kunda says both serving and former ministers are under oath to protect confidential government information.
He said in Parliament on Friday that those who leave government should maintain their sworn oath.
The Vice President also said ministers are not immune to investigations when in office.
He was responding to Luena MP, Charles Milupi, who wanted to know whether it is government trend to only investigate ministers when they leave office.
Mr. Milupi referred to calls for former Finance Minister, Ngandu Magande, and former Works and Supply Minister, Ludwig Sondashi, to be investigated for alleged corrupt practices while serving in government.
/ZNBC/NEWS
If it’s confidential how can they access it?
Bullseye my man
actually its spring here in russia you must be ready for sl….
sorry since u are in america u are GMO type
tasteless en dangerous
my friend. wat he meant was dat wateva they see and do which is confidential. owez it will be there.eg in the house wife husband thing shud be kept in bedroom even afta divorce. u understand now. dont be too dull i can pay for your nite sku tho!
Nuknow n hit some more
Dont be dull naiwe…..does it mean if a document is confidental then u ve no access? do u understand the word confidential???
Yesterday I read Magande’s letter to Dora which I presume was confidential, and today I see a warning to both former and serving ministers about information. Am I missing something?
papa you are right mwana,its the letter he referring to here,they should not even try to blind fold us alaaaa!!!!!!!!!!
It is futile to warn the ministers because certain information will always leak out, no matter how confidential. The truth is an offence but not a sin.
There are some institutions that benefit from this leakage. The media call it ” gefundenes fressen” which means ” just what they are waiting for”!!
Tthe TRUTH shall all free. Speculation to make others look bad is very bad.
If it was MMD who had circulated the letter it was not going to be confidential now its the opposite because the truth has come out. So what do you expect. Please tell Kunda to comment on the pending closure of Mopani and not talking of politics all the time. we are fed-up besides, who made him government spokesperson any way??
Mr Kunda is only saying what all the ministers and ex-ministers know!! He is also aware that these Ministers have their own channels where they ensure that information flows if there need be. It is the same as corruption!! you can not completely eradicate it and information leakage will also be there from time to time.
Same nonsense!!
Who revealed the security tunnels under State House? The rot started with the MMD. Those in government must put state before personal interest. On this issue only, I agree with VP only if it is not used as a cover for corruption.
EXACTLY; Also, was the President RB Banda right in telling MMD cadres that he had a document proving that former Finance and National Planning Minister Mr N. Magande had a plan to let Zambian Airways go away with the debt it owes GRZ and other of its creditors?
So is the President also supposed to take his Oath seriously all the time to protect GRZ and Zambians in general?
What must then happen to President RB Banda over his alleged Mr Magende N. document?.
Information cannot be confidential if it helps someone against false accusations!
well said, the letter we all read yesterday is now evidence and hence a public document
How else would we have known about Dora Sillier’s Zamtel saga if it were not for leaked documents? Mr. Kunda should encourage transparency in government dealings and stop condoning corruption.
sorry but no offence i just hav some questions
1. is it becoz your geo friend is in probs?
2. or is becoz u ar doing some un speakables
3.or maybe u mean it for the gud of wat the name of the country wea this guy is the vice president?
zim zam zom zum zem wateva
i meant dora for the geo friend.
iam a gud geo just that men have frastrated me so dats why iam toking rubish
What exactly is this man’s job?Does he understand what priorities are for a country like Zambia.If Kunda and the rest of MMD want to debate they should do so in parliament.What did Obama do immediately after being sworn in -WORK.But this man has had his trap(mouth) open as if he wants to catch all the green flies.MMD is such a pain in the back…
You are right infact; pain in the bottom my man, pain in the butt.
I presume if wat is “leaked” is good news, no one will even talk about confidentiality.
So the Banda’s mouth piece has comfirmed that they are lying on Magande for political purposes, what is so wrong with the people knowing the truth. RB needs to go jump off a bridge, he thinks he is presidential but he is nothing by a useless bag of you know what.
What is the job description of the vice President?
1. Deny allegations
2. Issue warning
3. Attend traditional ceremonies
4. Food distribution….
so the man is just performing his job
RB recently announced that he had evidence to implicate Magande on the Zambian Airways….. while serving as Minister of Finance. Is this not divulging of confidential government information by a serving top civil servant? MMD’s hypocrisy is astounding!
RB and George Kunda are both goons what else would you expect them to say? they are lyers and now we and the rest of the world knows it.
To all bloggers that alleged that the leaked letter was not the real deal, in your face.. now you should undestand the mind of RB, useless, shameless, lying, pedophile and a poor excuse for a leader. Zambia can surely do better than that.
RB I know that either you are your Goons are reading this, so this is written directly to you: start seeing about the country business or we will ensure that 2011 you will be removed from office and prosecuted, you are taking this country backward and we the people will not stand for it. it is the grass roots that put a black man in power in the most raciest country in the world and the grass roots will deal with you when the time comes.
Kunda u risk being irelevant as a lawyer. Yo boss will retire soon. Work on policies not lies. After work yo grading will depend on achievements not failure and lies
Monalisa….is that your picture?
imwe tamunfwa fye, you are crazy
Akunda, ine chifundo! muyenda muyondoloka dadi sure! Nichinji mbuya? Naiwe tuyike pamene apa shure mbuya! sory mbuya!!
Dictatorship tenderncies continuing to manifest in the mmd government. We need information to know if there is any corruption happening.Threats will not work for you mr Kunda.Access to information that concerns the nation will always be there.
How about DICTATORSHIP TENDENCIES by the Undereducate in PF political party?
Is this fear of being exposed or what?Crooked dealings will always be exposed,Zambians have come to realise how corruption deprives Zambians of a better life. The post will always have sources to such information and expose the coulprits.
Someone who issues such warnings has something to hide!! Kunde knows that most of the corners in the GRZ are dirty! They do not even have enough money to buy shredders so they try to issue warnings. A big laugh indeed. Especially at this time when the access to the Internet is not a problem. Maybe in 1984 they would not be scared of someone displaying a government letter on like LT did yesterday.
So, why fear about me exposing the Undereducate Mr Michael Chilufya Sata about his educational background and dealings while serving in the former governments?
It is interesting to read double standards from characters who detest TRUTH if the truth is applied to the Undereducate while they want to appear to be raising important information over the MMD.
What is Kunda talking about in here?
Isn’t he the one who was pre empting Dora’s case a few days ago?
For the ex Ministers its payback time. Pinching all the last kicks of dying horses.
sorry , meant ‘punching’ all the last kicks of dyong horses.
dying horses. chashupa lelo!
kaili na pa friday
o::o This is very interesting, why this warning after we saw the Magande to Dora letter on this site? Well, now we know our so called leaders want to hide the truth of us their bosses (voters). Remember you will face us in 2011 which is just 2 years from now and you need to be very transparent if you are to get our votes. Dont think the rural poor will remain ignorant forever but slowly they are getting enlightened and you will have a rough time explaining to them to win their confidence and support. Just be transparent and you will not be afraid of us your boss when we know and understand what you are doing especially if its done for the welbeing of the public
I am sure there is something big coming. Another revelation. :-j
I honestly wish the cadres could think like you do, zambia would be a developed country. i feel sad when i see how their ignorance is taken for granted. they are deprived not just knowledge ( infor ) but decent life, employment/food so that they can be manipulated by these politicians and only pay them in chibuku form or 5pin,SHAME ON SHREK AND KUNDA.
whatever kunda is saying is making sence and he is right. but the motive behind it is very questionable. the problem is that KUNDA and his boss have no confidece in themselves where corruption and malpractices are concerned. it is for this reason that the boss has instructed kunda to find at all costs every means possible that will act as a blanket to their unfaithfuness. so to trust them now until they prove to be trustworth.
Ba Cutey/wife!
Hi Ba Mr Chewe. Having a good day?
The Veep is scared of so many Beans to be spilled. ala mwandi…. fili eko tuleya.
sorry i meant, “don’t trust them now untill they prove to be trustworthy”.
Now Nyama soya and Kunda are feeling the heat. They are tensed up and don’t know what to do next. Kunda is saying ministers should keep secretes so that they continue lying to unsuspecting Zambians as they have lied about Magande. It is good that people have realized that RB and Kunda are up to nothing but lies. Thanks civil servants for the information you are realizing so that even the donors should know what type of leaders Zambia has today. It’s a shame and I hate you Kunda and RB you are taking us for granted. Don’t mistake the quietness of people. We are watching closely ..
Abena Kambongolo how are you?
yes chewe…I am fine only that too busy. so tublogako fye iya panono. How is Obama that side? Here its too cold we are in winter.
It is ironic that a few months ago when I wrote of Magande’s capabilities as a leader that have the interest of the Zambian people at heart I was attacked on this very site; the consensus then was that RB was the right man. Well in hindsight, now we are collective poorer than under LPM and Magande tenure. My hope is that come 2011 we will not sell out our country again for 1lb of milly meal and ½ lb of sugar. lets keep the pressure on this useless administration.
Fellow bloggers, if you remember we had FINE on this blog . He is not seen now. Has nyama soya fred him? He seemed to be one of the hired image builders. Any information about him!!!!!!!
magande lelo aipa…only bcoz he an RB r in no gud books
George Kunda behaves as if he is not a state counsel.(Positions given by who you know, not what you know). Magande is being scandalised and it has been said that he was fired because of corruption so the guy has to defend himself. Is if so difficult for Kunda to understand self defence? We will see you when the time comes and you are ZWAAD.
u r so right en direct in thinkin’ boy /gal
Mr Kunda said something that should be common sense to anyone who works for any organisation, even more so to any one who has signed an oath while in office. I do not see why this should be a cause for debate. Should confidential or even secret information be required to build a case for self defense, such information would be applied for and obtained in a court of law. This was the case in the Zanaco case, for example. Leaking information that is secret or confidential is not acceptable in any country and Zambia is not an exception, whether this is done by government official or those outside.
secret document is what George Bush used to start a useless war, if you are acusing someone there should be no secrets
Accusations on their own are meaningless, and if the authorities do not follow that up with prosecutions to prove their case, the accused can rightly sue them for defamation of character etc. You are missing the point and the reference to the Iraq war is misplaced. If a person willingly signs an oath to keep information confidential, they have a duty to abide by the oath or they risk prosecution. They can apply to be allowed to divulge such information without facing this risk and they do this through the legal system, for which incidentally, the highest court of appeal is the Privy Council.
Ba Jaro, the problem is when these guys accuse their colleagues or former colleagues of wrong doing and public claim they have documents to prove it. This is what happens when the truth is not told by our leaders & only get the information from other sources which even prove their assertions were not right. Most of this information belongs to us the owners of the nation and not our servants (politians) for as long as there is nothing that endangers our security as a nation i believe its very health to provide (not even leakage as some say) to the rightful owners which are the people who put the Pres., Min. & MPs in office
As I stated, if the accusation are real, there will be a case to answer and all the relevant information will be available in court. It is not for Mr Magande to prove his innocence but for his accusers to prove his guilt. Parading confidential information in the media is unacceptable and those who sign oaths when they take office are not immune to the legal process when they disregard what they signed up to uphold.
Man, Jaro is one of them. They make life hard for their friends who do not have access to these documents and they accuse them falsely just in the name of secret documents. Now they are found pants down and they are really ashamed that they having been lying to Zambians. Is that letter Magande wrote to Dora a secret Jaro?? I fail to understand you. I urge all those who have access to such documents to release them when Kunda and Nyama soya base their accusation of others on secret documents. Remember that we are awaiting Chibombamilimo and Sondashi to spill more beans. VIVA TRANPARENCY.
besides, what secrets do Zambia have? the only secret is what RB, his family and friends are hiding the peoples money, are you afraid that that too will become public knowledge? be only crooks would want to conceal evidence
Questioning whether the country has secrets or not is hardly the point. Doctors take the Hippocratic Oath and anyone who does not abide by it can be disqualified – there is a reason for that. Employers have confidentiality clauses in their contracts, and any one who flouts them can be fired and even prosecuted in the case of intellectual property rights. Yet you continue to argue that all this should not apply to Zambian government officials. You might have the beginnings of an argument if people were being jailed without recourse to due process.
Genesis u r right….Jaro is very dull..,JARO, as u call ur self,pliz dont b cheated by liers like
KUNDA..PLIZ WAKE UP,,….
Jero just shut up . We are closing in on you guys with your lies. If it is a state secret why should you start using it against your friends whom you think are a threat to your presidency ?? So to clear the air it is in the interest of the nation to make such documents public so that the nation knows the truth. Its really a shame to you guys.
Only last month, Kunda went to inform parliament that government is in the process of enacting a law to protect whistle blowers. His recent utterances contradicts this position. Mr. Kunda’s threats come at a time when the tribunal probing Dora Sillier’s conduct over Zamtel is currently in session. Is he trying to intimidate witnesses?
Whether someone took oath or secrecy or whatever, information that will help members of the public know what their servants are doing is good.
Of course, and that is why a democracy is with an open, independent, efficient and accountable judiciary is crucial. Zambia’s is not perfect is this regard but it is making very good strides towards it and we should seek to uphold the law and use the legal system to fight any malicious cases. Nothing I have stated here and in previous posts contradicts the point you have just made.
Kambongolo, don’t get excited. Can you explain yourself, what lies have I stated here?
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On “Mr. Kunda says both serving and former ministers are under oath to protect confidential government information. He said in Parliament on Friday that those who leave government should maintain their sworn oath.” I am equally under OATH from courts of law not to reveal sensitive data of some company in Zambia. So, my plea is that this OATH thing MUST be extended to all those who have taken it in the Courts of law or at State House or whatever.
Also, 17 year old MMD GRZ, please stop indicating that you have documents to prove that your enemies in the MMD were planning to do this and that while you get worried when some people release data with the REAL TRUTH.
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