CONFUSION erupted in the UPND/PF Pact on Thursday during the filing of nomination papers for local government by-elections in the Chanjowe Ward in Chadiza Central Constituency in Chadiza District.
The two opposition political parties which last year entered into a pact failed to agree on which political party was supposed to float a candidate for the pact.
This resulted in United Party for National Development (UPND) fielding their own candidate while the Patriotic Front (PF) also picked their own candidate.
Those who successfully filed in their nomination papers are Isaac Phiri for MMD, Paul Phiri of PF, and Jester Mbewe for UPND.
And commenting on the misunderstandings, UPND secretary general, Winstone Chibwe expressed shock that PF fielded a candidate because according to the agreement, UPND was supposed to pick the pact candidate.
Mr Chibwe described the development as unfortunate but indicated that the confusion would not cause further division in the pact.
But UPND deputy chairperson for youth and child development, Michael Chuzu who also played down the confusion said it was unfortunate that the PF wanted to behave like they were more popular than UPND.
Mr Chuzu said that the PF members in Chadiza disregarded the agreement which was supposed to allow a UPND candidate represent the pact in the ward by-elections.
Information gathered indicated that PF insisted to contest the by-elections because the UPND did not give them enough support during the Milanzi parliamentary by-election which was scooped by MMD on April 29 this year.
And MMD provincial youth and information secretary, Chembe Daka said the confusion in the pact over which candidate to float was a clear indication that the ruling party has won the by-election slated for August 5.
[Times of Zambia]
beginning of an end. read headline the post and editorial by your mmembe he has told you off ba pact that you nothing but greedy pimps headed for a huge defeat. viva mmd viva rb. when membe starts attacking then thats it you have no spine
Great editorial piece in the POST today. Finally the Post Newspaper got its brain Back. As Zambians we really need change we are tied of MMD, but the opposition or PACT and SATA are really shambolic and unless you have taken leave of your senses, this PACT team is worse off than MMD and I would rather keep MMD in power than usher in either SATA or HH.
Thank God now that the biggest opposition in the country the POST Newspaper has come to its senses and will now help us find a true, dynamic and viable opposition than these two losers. Let the search begin in earnest for a true Opposition to lead using the 2011 elections.
IT SHOW TIME. LET THE SEARCH BEGIN , VIVA POST
THIS IS HOROSHIMA!!!! Well The POST Newspaper Has just Dropped a NUCLEAR BOMB on the Zambian Political scene!!!! Lets us see its radiation effects over the next few days. Interesting, can’t wait to see the effects.
Henya henya! Mwa ona manje!!! True colours coming to the fore. The PACT is in shambles and this is the beginning of the end. If they can’t agree on candidates at such a low level as the wards, how can it be expected that the two power hungry chaps at the top will agree on which of them will stand for the highest office in the land. RB be has started a revolution that will take the country further forward than ever before. Let us allow him to complete it.
Really sad. Greed may kill the Pact and thats it! Zambia will be a dog house coz MMD will run it down to the sewers. Criminals will now be legally crowned as kings as they slowly make their way in the constitution. But this will not happen as either nature will CONTINUE to take of them then we will have bye elections and finally we will win. That gives me a lot of hope. So far the rotten elements have been taken and some even more rotten ones seem close to going. This is God’s own wisdom to get rid of those that think they are clever. Ka chiluba lisa iwe?
Cracks begin to emerge in the PF-UPND pact-ZWD
“…we will provide an effective, formidable and unbeatable electoral challenge to the corrupt MMD in all elections and we demand early presidential and parliamentary elections,” states the joint statement, which was issued the day the Pact agreement was formally consummated End quote.
Tiza onako manje! Let’s hope we don’t get the same scenario when it comes to fielding a presidential candidate. Come on pact, we thot u would give MMD a good run, come 2011. Pull yoselves together!
Mwati fintu fili bwino pa Zed?????
FACTS
1-Failed on Impeachment rants
2- No early election before constitutionally scheduled Decision 2011
3-The Lusaka Magistrate Court has convicted Ndola Central Member of Parliament and MerzaF Chilufya Sata’s confidant Mark Mushili (MP)to Six Months Imprisonment with hard labour for attempting to swindle Government of over K300 million. Facts before the court were that Mushili, 65, a resident of Dr Dammie Street Northrise in Ndola and right hand man of Sata was sentenced after being found guilty of attempting to obtain K360, 000,000 through fake claims of supplying food stuffs to Government ministries.
4-Mr. Mushili is also facing other charges of Money laundering activities before Ndola Magistrate court involving over K 6 billion.
5-However, the opposite has occurred in the Kaoma Central and Chadiza local government by-elections where both PF and UPND have fielded separate candidates.
QUESTION:
In this circus, who is fooling who???????????????????????????????????????????
IM NT VOTIN NEXT YEAR !
THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL SPENT 40 YEARS IN THE WILDERNESS, ON A JOURNEY THAT COULD HAVE TAKEN THEM 7 DAYS TO FINISH. BECAUSE GOD NEW THEIR ATTITUDE AND CONDUCT WAS VERY BAD
SATA & HH WILL NEVER REACH TO THE PROMISE LAND. THEY ARE NOW FIGHTING EACH OTHER BEHIND THE SCENES ON WHO WILL BE THE PRESIDENT AND PLAYING DOUBLE STANDARDS.
FORMING A PACT WAS BASICALLY ACCEPTING THAT NEITHER WAS STRONG TO WIN THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE
HH IS JUST TOO DULL AND HAS NOTHING TO OFFER ON EDUCATION, HEALTH, POVERTY, JOB CREATION, INSPIRING THE NATION AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON. THE ONLY THING HE KNOWS IS PERSONAL ATTACKS ON RB. THERE IS A LOT THAT HE CAN CAPITALISE ON. BUT HEY, THE MAN IS POLITICALLY DRY.
It cannot be concealed, or even denied, that the PF-UPND pact is beset by many challenges and problems.
There has been so much rhetoric about this pact but very little action, if any, to consolidate it and make it work.
There is no doubt public expectation is very high. And this expectation far exceeds the reality on the ground. The cohesion and capacity of this pact is far exaggerated in the eyes and minds of the public.
By its very nature, this is a pact that has many inherent problems and sometimes contradictions because it is not a strategic alliance. It is a happenstance alliance. This is a pact of PF and UPND conceived of only on the plane of a tactic of an election campaign.
Therefore, this pact by itself guarantees PF and UPND and their supporters and the Zambian people…
Forward with RB and His MMD
RB and MMD are work
The Ndola Stadium
The constraction of Ndola stadium has reached an advanced stage, this is part of the 40,000 capacity terraces which has been erected
-Legacy of the MMD administration
Happenstance alliances are always problematic. This is because they are usually not anchored on principles but much more on expediency. Winning next year’s elections by the opposition is not a matter of principle, it is one of political expediency. But even matters of expediency need to be anchored more and more on selfless practices.
We say this because if both PF and UPND leaders and their supporters perceive their pact as nothing more than a forum in which they can press for more power, more council seats, more parliamentary seats and even the presidency of the country for themselves, the pact will shutter from within. A pact needs the selfless commitment of its leaders and members. As the Bembas would say tepambale (It’s not a plate). But it seems there is an…
interesting, I await to hear all the kaponya’s respond to membe’s editorial. see the headline today
Those who think they can go back to the British South African Company division of the country into North Western Rhodesia and North Eastern Rhodesia and then form pacts on that basis to govern it are cheating themselves.
We say they are cheating themselves because they will never get into office on this basis. And if this is a type of pact PF and UPND want to introduce in this country, then they have misread the Zambian people’s quest for an opposition pact because this is not what the Zambian people are looking for.
This can only be a scheme of people who have no real interest of the people at heart but their own. And again, as we have already pointed out, this pact, the PF and UPND pact, is not a strategic one but a happenstance one. But even this being the case, there is no…
Its too early to start celebrating imwe ba MMD, the PACT will make amends, thanks to the POST for telling us where we are wrong, us we accept criticism than MMD…we will clean our house in order sooner than expected..come what may, the PACT is ofrming next goverment.
Boycotting an election is never a solution to the political malaise Zambia is passing through. Our country has been besieged by a plague…that of voting based on regionalism, tribalism and nepotism. Certain tribes carry themselves as more important than others (hear how people accuse Lozis as greedy people not deserving of national leaders). They boast of their languages being widely spoken and use that as a passport to being adopted as national candidates/leaders.
The youths have also lamentably failed to change the course of the ship. They support parties that their fathers, mothers, uncles, aunts belong to so they can contintue to “mint”. Zambia is at cross roads. We dont want to somberly hold our leaders accountable to their campaign promises.
Its a country where we joyfully and knowingly glorify politicians that lie to us in broad day light. We call them real politicians,. We dont want to respect and vote for those who tell us the truth no matter how painful. The elonquent, rhetoric politicians to us are the genuine leaders. People like Miyanda who are reasonably straight are never entertained because “they will close all our corrupt tendencies of survival”.
We need a revolution of leaders not recycled ones. We need to deliberately invest in young vibrant leaders who are above self. We need to look beyond tribe and region. It is not an easy task but the Milupis, HHs, Chipimos, Sakwibas, Membes, Bradford Machilas etc need to galvanise this country. We need to wrestle it from the leadership of yesteryear.
it is sad really,just when it seemed that there was light at the end the tunnel and this,i guess love of the pocket always prevails.The MESSIAH is the only one who will save Zambia.You guys have let down the whole nation and i guess the mmd will continue.shame
WORRYING TURN OF EVENTS
Has Mmembe and the Post been bought again to start mimicking the spins of Senior Citizen here? How come the post has literally done a copy and paste the propaganda of Senior Citizen he has been dispensing on all Zambian blogs? Senior Citizen is a dangerous Poison Chalice whose spins are clearly behind this crap the Post has joined. I blame Senior Citizen for his dirty now confusing our only realiable independent media. Why hasn’t Mmembe talked to Sata and HH instead of endorsing Senior Citizen’s propaganda which he has been dispensing since time in memorial?
As I have always said,let those with eyes see and those with ears hear.The Pact was and is a fallacy but people chose to be fantasised by it.
Viva pact, this is just a glich. Support for the pact wont waiver, I salute the post for being objective as always. This does not mean the pact has collapsed.
#14 Vegetable, its almost 20 years of MMD maladministration, corruption has been highest in the MMD. You sometimes come out condemning Mwanawasa but when it suits you on what he did you just lump it on MMD as working. Tell us about RBs achievements.
MARK MY WORD
Didnt i tell you guys that just before elections HH will defect to MMD!
MMD & HH
MMD will guarantee HH to lead Zambia in 2016 if he joins us but his political future is futile if he remains with Sata! These two can not work together and the people of Zambia easily allow themselves to be manipulated! Dont cry now like you never knew the issues the PACT is having from the start. Its never too late to join MMD and at least we do not promote tribalism
Mr Heinikeni ni mbuzi Sata ni nkhumba, RB ni pui. niza vota ndani mwebani bantu?:)>-
People never listen.Too much advise has been given some even citing an example of Cameron-Clegg marriage.
Now have lost interest in the so called pact and will just vote for Akulu Mpuno with my eyes closed.
Pabwato forward forever, Ka HH has gone too far, we shall boot him out atase, he thinks Ba Sata can allow him to lead ahead of ba bossi, pabwatooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We can do it alone atase ka Hakaivotela Heka
One list shows that 211 citizens were compensated a total of K11, 774, 071, 575.36 under the preservation of public security regulations.
Among these is president Rupiah Banda who received eight (8) cheques on different dates but whose total amount is Three Billion, three hundred million and seven hundred and twelve thousand Zambian Kwacha. President Rupiah Banda was arrested during the ‘Zero option’ episode when Chiluba was president.
Other people compensated include Former president Kenneth Kaunda who got One Hundred and twenty million Kwacha.
Chief Inyambo Yeta got One billion, Four hundred and seventy-six million through three cheques.
Late politician Dean Mungomba was compensated one hundred and fifty-five million Zambian Kwacha.
Late coup suspect Captain Jack…
my heart bleeds for mother zambia..this is sad reading indeed..dear Lord just how much must we endure with this mmd govt
GOOD NEWS INDEED!
With due respect to the PACT blind supporters, we as MMD know that the pact has problems which HH and Sata will never resolve because all they are about is personal gratification and not you regular Zambians! Its time to wake up and join in national development thru MMD and its government! VIVA RB’s 2nd term! We are still working on portifolio to accommodate his honorable HH within our party because we have similar manifestos!
Some of us have been questioning what this pact is but have been gunned down with insults. Just recently, there was supposed to be a launch which in fact launched nothing. There was no manifesto, there was no logo and there was no shadow cabinet composed of members from both parties. Then came the draft constitution, which PF unilaterally rejected whereas UPND were educating their members on how to make their submissions. We were told that the reason they did not chose a leader now was because they were being strategic and were keeping the MMD guessing – really? Even if that was the case, surely it would not have been too much to ask the two leaders to jointly travel the breadth and length of the country to sell their vision for the country?
Well I guess if you actually dont have a vision to sell to the general populace then you are not in a position to sell one. Another reality that has been ignored by pact supporters was the fact that despite their protestations, the MMD govt has made some spectacular achievements in the recent past, the bumper maize harvest being one of them. This can not be ignored as it is what will determine who the majority of Zambians will vote for. Insala ibi sana, when people have enough to eat and you dont offer them an alternative, why should they vote for you?
Surely the fact that they were talking about forming a pact was an admission of failure on the part of both parties? Should have used the time to try and win hearts and minds in parts of the country where they were weak.
The tail can get scratched but if the head is intact it will definitely find its way. If there is a party that is cracking its the MMD. Magande, Mpombo, Shakafuswa, and the coming in of Chiluba and above all the apologetic RB, have and are hitting the party on the head.
Its a minor glitch, this little mess.
2011 plans are solid.
I think the question of the respective supporters has been overlooked. Will people in Western, NW and Southern provinces vote for Sata if he heads the pact? They have completely rejected him in the past, why should they vote for him now just because HH says that they should?
“SATA” – WILL TAKE THIS AS AN ATTACK FROM THE POST. IF HE WAS WISE ENOUGH, HE WOULD SIT DOWN, RECOUP AND TAKE NOTICE OF MISTAKES. PF IS A ONE MAN PARTY, NO ONE BUT SATA HIMSLEF
“HH” – LIVES IN HIS LITTLE WORLD. ONLY MONEY MADE HIM BECOME THE UNPD LEADER.
I GUESS “THE POST” IS SIMPLY TIRED OF SUPPORTING A “TITANIC SHIP” THAT IS SINKING. BECUSE IN THE END THEY WOULD HAVE LOOKED STUPID FOR SIDING WITH THE PACT. ZAMBIANS HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR A WHILE. LET’S SEE IF THE PACT CAN RESURRECT ITSELF.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU ARE DRIVEN BY HATE, ANGER, RAGE & POSION. YOU ALWAYS STAY IN THE WILDERNESS LIKE A SNAKE.
IF BANDA HUMBLES HIMSELF, LIKE THE APOLOGY, ATTRACTS INVESTORS, DIVORCES CHILUBA AND STARTS LISTENING TO PEOPLE THEN HE WILL BE GIVEN ANOTHER CHANCE IN 2010.
With due consideration, the best UPND can do for Zambia is to find a way of working with MMD. I think MMD can make a better partner than PF. It is easy to correct MMD’s orientation than it is to change that of PF. RB can be a hounary head while the MMD genuine heads and those of UPND guide the nation.
once a snake always a snake,,, i personally told tonga chicken HH that you cannot be in that same nest with a snake /:),, now the snake is hissing!:o:-? waona manje,,,chimbi iwe
God will nevr allow Sata or HH in state Hse
PACT supporters are very conspicuous by their silence. Ba Kalos naba De ja vue muli kwi?
LIKE A SAID IN PIECE OF WRITING “12” AND “40”.
“SATA” IS DRIVEN BY WRATH. HE WILL KEEP ATTEMPTING UNTIL HIS ENERGY HAS EVAPORATED.
“HH” IS YOUNG WITH ENERGY, HE NEEDS TO SHOW HIS VISION TO ZAMBIA . SO FAR HE HAS NOT SHOWN ANY PASSION ABOUT POLITICS
FRANKLY – HH IS NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT POLITICS.
This article was published online and in other media in April 2010 and at that time the author received a lot of insults from so-called pact supporters. However, the predictions of the article are beginning to come to pass. It is interesting now to compare what was said 3 months ago by the author to what the Post Editorial has said today. It begs the question when did the Light dawn on the Post Newspapers Editor because a lot of issues covered by the Editorial were covered in detail in the article below
THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR THE PACT
By Trevor Simumba
people read the article again. the author was called all sorts of names by the kaponya’s from Pf and UPND
Mr Hichilema said this in Lusaka when he featured on Radio Phoenix’s Let the people talk programme that speculations that the pact has chosen a presidential candidate are not true. This statement was immediately after Mr. Sata had stated in another interview that he was still in the running to stand for the 2011 elections but that the Pact would make the final choice. He did not mention any elections being held for the selection process. He went further and emphasised that the Pact was not a merger but an arrangement of working together.
In the words of HH he said that “pact members of the UPND and PF will vote to elect an individual who will represent the pact”. He said the existence of the UPND-PF pact is for the purpose of unity and providing good leadership
The biggest weakness with this Pact is that it is not based on any principle except removal of RB and the MMD party from the Presidency. There is no real strategy beyond just winning the 2011 election.
If the purpose of the pact is unity why do we hear only divisive talk, blatant lies and threats to the ruling party? And why the difference in approach, HH says ‘merged’ while MCS says ‘no merger’? What formulas will they use to first decide who can stand for these elections and how the electoral college (i.e. the delegates who will vote) will be selected? How do we know who is who in each party and which party they represent? Any cadre worth his salt will sell himself to the highest bidder and also to whomever he sees as having the best chance nationally and on the basis of the…
It is clear that the main pact glue and goal for the Opposition Parties is to only win the 2011 Elections and form Government no matter the cost to the country. They have no common vision and are only in the Pact for the sake of expedience. Without a vision of the future, political action is aimless, or at best reactive and defensive. But a vision of the future is of little use if it is not accompanied by a clearly elaborated understanding of what it would take to make it a reality. This is the situation we find ourselves in. Zambians are crying out for change but we have an opposition whose sole purpose is just to get into State House without offering any credible alternative to the current status quo.
There is need for Zambians to ask hard questions of these people who purport to speak on our behalf and want us to give them our vote and allow them to manage our public purse. Do any of these political parties actually publish their financial accounts and if they do who audits them? One wonders how individuals who cannot manage party funds in a transparent manner can be trusted to manage the Zambian Treasury. What has happened to the loyal opposition with MP’s who are sworn to protect the Constitution and State of Zambia taking part in un-Constitutional acts? Unfortunately, in recent decades, Zambia has seen the calibre of politicians decline severely and politicians in Zambia have largely failed to think and act in a democratic way instead all they do is lie and insult
The 2011 race will be hard fought but only MMD remains a national party and one which provides unity for Zambia. The Opposition is still a divided force with stubborn personalities who take pleasure even in times of sickness. One anticipates a progressive alliance to be formed between the MMD and a number of other fringe parties against the Pact. The people of Zambia must never forget the acrimonious and unfair insults the late President Mwanawasa suffered during the campaign of 2001 and 2006 from the same people who today claim they are custodians of the Mwanawasa legacy? These are also the ones who were instigating thugs to hack people in Chawama and were in the forefront of destroying MMD and were calling their colleagues ‘calculator boys’ and now today they are best of friends?
I shudder to think that we can forget so easily. It is important for the nation of Zambia to elect leaders with a national character that reflects and espouses national unity and accepts the tribal diversity of Zambia. Any political party aspiring to provide national leadership must be seen to be democratic and open to all Zambians and not just those from the same region or those holding the same view. Let’s accept diversity and criticism in equal measure and not just demand accountability from the Government and leave the Opposition say and do whatever they like in the name of Democracy.
A real man is not judged when he is alright but when he is in problems
It’s tricky to say that the cohesion can stay without contraditions at all levels of both parties.they is no way the PF and UPND will share the same political principles, they will surely be mistakes and difficulties alone the line,it’s like in any courting relationship or indeed in marriage in a home,it will never be plane sailing all the time sometimes couples will agree to dissgree even opting for balls apart.
FILIUKOTULEYA……KUKOSA.
A KALOS 2020 MULI ZIII!!! WHEN WILL YOU GET YOUR BEMBA PRESIDENT?
THE “POST” HAVE ALSO BEEN CAUGHT IN A “CATCH 22” THEY COULD NOT GO ON KEEPING QUITE WHEN EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND WITH THE PACT
THEY HAVE NOT PLAYED A “FAIR & BALANCED” GAME IN THE RECENT TIMES. ANYONE THAT WANTED TO INSULT RUPIAH BANDA WAS GIVEN A PLATFORM TO SAY ANYTHING. RATHER THEY USED ANYONE THAT WENT FOR RB/MMD. AS A RESULT HH & SATA WERE SHIELDED.
FRANKLY SPEAKING IF SATA GETS INTO POWER – MOST OF THESE JOURNALIST WOULD GET DECOMPOSED IN PRISONS WITHOUT TRIAL.
HIS IS A DRACONIAN RULE. RIGHT NOW HE NEEDS A VOICE. AND THAT MEDIUM OF THE VOICE IS THROUGH THE POST. COME THE DAY WHEN HE GRIPS TO POWER, HELL WILL COME. THEY THE POST ARE AWARE OF WHAT TO EXPECT FROM SATA
THIS IS THE MAN THAT BOUGHT PANGAS & PISTOLS AND SENT MMD CADRES TO…
THE “POST” HAVE ALSO BEEN CAUGHT IN A “CATCH 22” THEY COULD NOT GO ON KEEPING QUITE WHEN EVERYONE CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE GROUND WITH THE PACT
THEY HAVE NOT PLAYED A “FAIR & BALANCED” GAME IN THE RECENT TIMES. ANYONE THAT WANTED TO INSULT RUPIAH BANDA WAS GIVEN A PLATFORM TO SAY ANYTHING. RATHER THEY USED ANYONE THAT WENT FOR RB/MMD. AS A RESULT HH & SATA WERE SHIELDED. FRANKLY SPEAKING IF SATA GETS INTO POWER – MOST OF THESE JOURNALIST WOULD GET DECOMPOSED IN PRISONS WITHOUT TRIAL.
HIS IS A DRACONIAN RULE. RIGHT NOW HE NEEDS A VOICE. AND THAT MEDIUM OF THE VOICE IS THROUGH THE POST. COME THE DAY WHEN HE GRIPS TO POWER, HELL WILL COME. THEY THE POST ARE AWARE OF WHAT TO EXPECT FROM SATA
THIS IS THE MAN THAT BOUGHT PANGAS & PISTOLS AND SENT MMD CADRES TO…
He who laughs last laughs the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Surely change should be from good to better and not to Worse Atase ba Sata, Willie Nsanda, Jean Kapata, Mumbi Phiri, etc in State house no ways
These are just misunderstandings in the PACT. What the pact must know is that it has been infiltrated by MMD badly. In view of this, some people will be going against the wishes of the PACT just coz they are sponsored by the MMD thugs. These guys in Kaoma and Chadza are useless cadres period. They are behaving like MMD-thugs. What we need as the PACT is to sit down and address this small problem we are facing right now. We ask out dear presidents Sata and HH to discipline these cadres before they grow wings. COME 2011 , THE PACT IS TAKING OVER.
Mmembe is playing a very dangerous personal game. His last 2 editorials have been really good for RB. Is it coincidence this comes after his long shot to ‘examine’ RB in court was rejected?
Fact: mmembe has realised that his support for the pact will end in dissapointment next year, he is trying to switch camps here. I hope RB rejects him….
if the pact thats POST editorial in the positive, it might help them to re-organise
It is as a result of this dishonesty with themselves and with each other that they are speaking with double tongues. With one side of the tongue they are dismissing regionalism while with the other, they are trying to chew and devour it, feed from it.
Yes, they can talk about the so-called “bigger picture”, but the bigger picture for the Zambian people is not simply the removal of the MMD from power and replacing it with a coalition of Bantustan political parties. The bigger picture for the Zambian people is the building of a more united and progressive nation that is able to tackle their problems and improve the life of every citizen.
For the Zambian people, there will always be an option to the PF-UPND pact. Even for the PF and UPND there will always be an option of going it…
if the pact takes POST editorial in the positive way, it might help them to re-organise and win 2011
How on earth does HH choose to team with noisy empty trash cans like Nsanda,Kambwili, GBM, Mumbi Phiri etc? Anyway cracks will always be there.
I just pity UMWAICHE HH.You can’t mix cocacola na fanta and have the same COLOUR.Then ROBBIE was telling the TRUETH. Inga, ba George Livingstone Kolwe Akafulafuta aleti shani palwashi ili?
MMD is rotten, the pact is rotten……….the whole country is rotten
Imwe ba aisha it doesnt mean when you are rotten then the country is rotten.Check your facts right before spitting your foolishnes on the net.Lets face the fact HH is a president for southern province and not Zambia.Can you tell me where the UPND is strong apart from Souther province.The pact is ok provided HH come to his senses and let the big man to run for presidency.The confusion is just being generated by the young man who cannt up to now accept the fact that he cannt be president by him having southern province as his only strong hold.Lekeni Sata ateke and the pact will materialise than this senseles confusion.Kuti bawina sure ba HH mulemona mwebantu.HH his time has not yet come.He is not presidential material but MP and councillor material and not MP for other provinces but southern
I feel PF is not humble in this alliance. It is probably the cause of the confusion. One Guy scott goes to Kaoma and finds UPND fielding and he tells his men to go ahead and field, 2, how can PF say we will field in Chadiza because we did not get enough support from UPND during Milanzi by-election? it’s well known UPND was campaigning in Mufumbwe. Three, UPND have suspended their popular chairman in Cghimwemwe for deciding to contest as an independent after UPND chose to back PF? In Ndola the UPND member was popular and fared very well for the Chifubu seat and he too decided to go it alone but UPND stopped him preferring the bigger picture. But PF kaya mwandi
Sure ba Up and down kuti bawina ku chadiza sure .Tulesuminafye.Umuntu ni PF pact ifwile yabomba ku Southern proviince because the people in souther are still backward and still in the old days
#67 you have no brains and u are a damn tribalist. Why do u support Sata and condemn HH. You must be an MMD cadre and an ******* licker for that matter. Your rotten small brain should tell you to leave HH alone. Bad seeds like you should be uprooted from society.
#67 has no brains for sure. I like the views from #68.
A lot of logical and metally organised Zambians don’t support Sata and it’s sad the young man HH had to form an alliance with him. No wonder the Chief Justice refused to greet him (I also can NOT greet Sata). Ask KK, he will tell you point blank that Satan is not presidential material. Maureen Mwanawasa blasted him during the funeral of her husbands cause the man is damn irritating. Prior to his elections, we all knew that Chiluba was a wrong chap, but the usual Zambian sickness of making poor choices, they voted for the him (thank God I did not), history repeats itself and Satan (quiet popular) has been voted twice as the most populary opposition leader. God save Zambia…from Lucifer (Sata-n)
There is a simple test for logical thinking and IQ. Just answer the following question. “Who is your preferred 2010 presidential candidate? (a) RB (b) Satan (c) HH
And if your answer to this question is (b) then you lack logical thinking and probably of a low IQ
I agree with # 56 [ Independent Observer ]
When Sata in MMD he organised thugs to go and slash residents of Chawama and Kanyama. Panga’s and were pistols were given to hooligans to harass and slash innocent people with pangas. No one has ever gone to these people to apologise and compensate them
And – this is the man we want to entrust and run the country. If one does not agree with him the result is always intimidations. He is doing it to his own MP’s today
PF followers.
True – that cannot be forgotten. Sata did send cadres to attack blameless citizens with machete’s.
I know people that are walking in the streets of Lusaka with scars caused by Sata while in MMD.
This is what surprises a lot of us, as to why HH joined hands with SATA.
I guess it’s opportunism that drove him to become blind. This is the time for PF & UNDP to get detached.
TAMU LATI UKU PUSANA.JUST WAIT.
Some of you people are so blind and not real in your thinking. HH is more popular now that before, actually he is the one who is more of a threat to MMD that Sata because he grabed two of MMD seats in Solwezi and Mufumbwe. Many people have now realised that HH is not a good public speaker but a man of action and there is no doubt about it. People of North-western province love HH than Southern now. You really have to face this reality and not to bury yourselves in a tiny bottle, think real. Reality has it that HH is popular in North-western, Western, Southern, Central and even some parts of Northern, these areas do not trust Sata at all. Take it or leave it that is the reality, some MPs in MMD have already started approaching UPND for adoption in 2011. MMD is backing hard on this man
Sata’s popularity has gone down he failed to win the Chitambo seat, actually it is better he hands over leadership to someone educated and vibrant like Winter Kawimbe or Guy scott for the good of pf. Even if we want to use experience as a basis some are bad experiences and should not be tested again. The man is a danger to society like the Chawama saga. HH may not be the best but the man is humble and has substance in him.
What is wrong with UPND contesting Luena? Why is M`membe complaining today when it`s be the practice of the two parties (PF & UPND) to contest in areas where they have stronger chances of winning? Surely, is it rational to suggest that PF has better chances of winning the seat than UPND? Is it rational to suggest that PF has made inroads in Western Province? What is the meaning of inroads? PF has never won a single seat in the whole Weaster Province, where is the evindence of the so called inroads? Why didn`t M`membe raise the regionalism issue in the previous bye-elections in Mufumbwe, Serenje Solwezi and Kasama? Is it that M`membe is not happy that UPND is regaining support in Western Province, would rather is PF shine there? If M`membe wants the pact to succeed let him not favor PF…
When HH went to the Post, he should have seized the opportunity to lay out his or the Pact’s vision. He wasted his time by giving an interview that had no substance.
Revenue at the post has dried in recent times. Often they have failed to pay workers salaries. This is due to the fact that sales of the Post copies in the streets have dried up. M’Membe knows that if he takes a well balanced reporting, then he will eat a cake from both sides.
While exposing the PACT has so much truth, it can be said that this is also about enticing all MMD supporters that have hardly bought the Post Newspaper because of the ridicule they see every day . He is a business man that has to pay his workers.
M’Membe knows that Sata is very unpredictable. He was allowed by KK, Chiluba, Levy and now…
When HH went to the Post, he should have seized the opportunity to lay out his or the Pact’s vision. He wasted his time by giving an interview that had no substance.
Revenue at the post has dried in recent times. Often they have failed to pay workers salaries. This is due to the fact that sales of the Post copies in the streets have dried up. M’Membe knows that if he takes a well balanced reporting, then he will eat a cake from both sides.While exposing the PACT has so much truth, it can be said that this is also about enticing all MMD supporters that have hardly bought the Post Newspaper because of the ridicule they see every day . He is a business man that has to pay his workers.M’Membe knows that Sata is very unpredictable. He was allowed by KK, Chiluba, Levy and now RB to…
If Sata was to come in power – it will be a different ball game all together. M’membe desperately tried to engineer Mangande to win MMD president but it failed. Mind you M’Membe is among the founder members of MMD. Though in recent times he attempted to form a political party but it failed to kick start. He is also trying to position himself for the future to be president if a window opens up. This is a known issue…
If the Post had not glorified every rubbish spewed from Sata’s mouth and that of baby Sata to some extent for all of two years, the PACT might have grown up a bit in readiness for 2016. But Post misunderstood the intelligence of the people of Zambia and thought they could influence our thinking. Well, suddenly they seem to have come back to their senses, well may be that is what everybody else thinks except me. They abused my trust and support and I will never trust them ever again, never again wamvela mmembe?
ZAMBIA NEEDS TO BE CLOSED PERIOD!
For the first time ever, I feel like we need our country closed! If not then there is only one option left, the military junta! Either close the country or have military rule to restore the lost glory! you can insult me i dont care coz Zambians are just too good at talking without action! Thats why your father and mother are poor, your uncles are poor, your friends are poor, the company you work for is poor, everything around you just defines poverty! Mwanya thats why you all now own tutembas as a way of life! F.uck off!