THE National Constitutional Conference (NCC) has said the conduct of Patriotic Front (PF) deputy national secretary Samuel Mukupa to tear the Draft Constitution at a political rally is an insult to the many Zambians who have made submissions including Parliament.
And Mwense Patriotic Front (PF) Member of Parliament Jacob Chongo has said Mr Mukupa’s behaviour is also an insult to the United Party for National Development (UPND) their sister partner in the pact.
NCC spokesperson Mwangala Zaloumis said in an interview yesterday that it was wrong for the PF to politicise the cnstitution-making process.
“Zambians have been making submissions to the Draft Constitution and huge resources have been spent on this very important document therefore it would be wrong for people to politicise the process,” he said.
Ms Zaloumis said if people are opposed to the NCC process, they should not resort to politicising the constitution making process.
She said the NCC was a creation of the National Assembly and that it was wrong for a member of the PF to conduct himself when parliamentarians from the party were party to the creation of the Act.
“PF members of Parliament were there when the NCC Act was created,” she said.
NCC chairperson Chifumu Banda refused to comment about Mr Mukupa’s behaviour because he had so much work to do.
“We have so much work to do because we have received a lot of submissions which Zambians have made, so I will not waste my time to comment on that behaviour,” he said.
In a separate interview, Mr Chongo wondered how the PF and UPND would work together when they had such fundamental differences.
“That act by Mr Mukupa by itself is rubbishing all Zambians that have participated in the process including the UPND. They are telling the UPND that they do not think now just imagine how can these two parties work together. Are these really credible people that can form government?,” he said.
“Do you have to go to such an extent if you do not agree with something? I think there are more civil ways that people can show disagreement.”
He said by this act the PF were also rubbishing the Mung’omba Constitutional Review Commission (CRC) that the party has been advocating for.
“I only hope Zambians will now realise that these are criminals who want to usurp power by inciting people,” he said.
The Mwense MP also condemned the PF cadres for blocking Vice President George Kunda’s motorcade in Ndola.
“Just imagine what Mr Sata would have done if it was him that was blocked?” he said.
Mr Mukupa on Monday tore the Draft Constitution at a rally addressed by PF leader Michael Sata and threw it to the public saying the document was only fit for marketeers to use as a wrapper for vegetables.
[Times of Zambia]
Given chance i would have done the same thing and even taken it to the toilet since tissue is not affordable.
#1.. Shame on you. Toilet paper is only K1,000. Unless you want GRZ to be distributing free tissue. this is the kind of mentality that we zambians should move away from. This Mukupa man has not even read the Draft Constitution and goes on to tear it…….. Primitivity we shall not allow pa ZED.
I have just torn mine, its not even worth to be used as shinda paper.
F.E.I.R.A what ever that means. Just because you are enjoying doesn’t mean everyone can afford that same K 1,000. that same amount you are talking about, you can buy two from Zimbabwe or rather three from Botswana. The government has to make the environment conducive for anybody to afford the necessities which are now luxury because of bootlikers like you. Why will i buy tissue when i can buy pamela from the same amount. Its time we started thinking for our brothers in chibolya who have to buy water with the same K,1000 you think is affordable than wasting it on tissue which i can get from the NCC.
#1 & 3 Uli mwana we Hule, if you don t agree stay away but a child of a prostitute takes after the mother in being shameless and would easily agree with such Stupid behaviuor THATS PRECISELY WHAT YOU ARE
NCC draft chakuti? what is this thing that will never even be enacted still being talked about?
The Mukuka family is of Sata fanatics than men of wisdom this which country need. Recall his young brother Cephus Mukuka saying “ZUFIAW warns of voter apathy if pact breaks” Wednesday, July 28, 2010 LT
A trade unionist has warned of serious voter apathy if the opposition United Party for National Development (UPND) and the Patriotic Front (PF) pact does not reorganize itself.
Zambia Union for Financial and Allied Workers (ZUFIAW) president, Cephus Mukuka has observed that the UPND/PF pact has been a party to reckon with during its smooth operations.
He noted that failure by the two parties to deal with the current problems being experienced will result in great apathy in the 2011 elections.
Hw many draft consistitutions have there been?this documents is just ment to protect those in Banda’s Government….Hw many sensible submissions were thrown down the toilet at that NCC?over the 50+ clause,we a supposed to go 4 a referendum!!we’l c if tht will happen!!!these fools,tht thing should be used as SHINDA PAPER even if shinda paper was 10ngwee….coz thts the quickest way of getting rid of it!
#4… No govt will come and provide all needs to its citizens basic or luxury. the key is to work hard for yourself. where you are (wherever in the diaspora) you have to work for each and every cent you earn. there is no exception for Zambia.
# 5. I shall not insult you back . I will urge you to debate issues and not bring in our mothers. iam doing my homework to track you on. that is serious.
He was right to tear up a doomed and moribound draft constitution. How many have we had and what has beent he benefits. FTJ changed the constinution from 50%+1 to be declared a presidential winner to 1st past the post after realising he could not get more than 50% vvotes in his 2nd term. So when you come up with a constitution to target individuals & serve you not to serve the country, you tear it up democratically. simple logic.
I would have condemed Mukupa if he had torn the Mungonba Draft Constitution because it reflected the wishes of the people. But now you’re refering to the George Kunda doctored nonsensical booklet, not worth being refered to as a draft constitution (What is the difference between the Constitution we have now and this piece of rubbish). This is a worthless piece of paper and a shear waste of my resources. And yes I agree with #1, it’s a worthless piece of people less valuable than a tissue of paper.
# 9 I didn’t say provide but said putting up a conducive environment. I think my comment is still there to explain.
#2 & 9 F.E.I.R.A Please dont cheat others outside Zambia. You CANT buy a toilet roll at K 1,000.00. at home. Miseba? A toilet roll in Zed averages at K 2,000.00 and thats of VERY poor quality.
That PF MP made a big mistake. Been someone representing the people of zambia, he was supposed to submit his views to the NCC or Parliament for amendments rather than what he did potraying a Bad Picture of PF as a whole.Look Mr. MP, its not that everything is bad or not good in the Draft Constitution, certain things are still good for your Children and relatives. Lets do things which wiil see to it that the PACT gains support from each and every zambian so that we can form Government come 2011.
# 14. True that.
Once again we are running away from discussing real issues in as far as the tearing of the draft constitution by our learned friend is concerned. Honestly, why do we always want to be partisan in everything we debate on instead of looking at issues objetively? The learned lawyer was just politicking by tearing the draft constitution. It is like throwing away the baby together with the bathe water. It is not the whole draft which was found wanting but a few items. In this regard our learned lawyer and his party should have made a submission on those contetious issues. What a country.
I don’t see what difference it makes to the NCC crooks or indeed the people of Zambia.
All progressive Zambians including the churches mother body have condemned this SHINDA paper, which is a doctored document representing the views of the MMD government unlike the Mungomba Constitutional Review Commission recommendations.
Have a life and debate real issues.
I would also tear it, wahta rubbish waste of money the NCC is. Some time soon the people will be asking these useless NCC rubber-stampers to return the k1m sitting allowance they were paid every day for over 2 years. Useless document. But I love the way the guy says “I am too busy to comment” and then he proceeds to comment haha
NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN ON period. Whether you shameless, mindless bootlicking mother f***** agree or not, in inside your THICK skulls if you have anything gray you will agree with me.
#1 chili fye bino, you must have a dirty sitnking arse if you use hardpaper to wipe after you take a bog. if you cant afford tissue paper dont blame govt blame your laziness. even my maid and gardenboy use use tissue. what kind of toilet do you use if not mumpanga or chimbusu bcos a flush toilet cant allow. ba samuel mukupo makandi yenu go and use the paper to clean musula. shame thats my comment
I could have done the same.It is a useless document made by s.t.u.p.i.d pipo indeed.MMD must be taught a lesson in Chifubu and Luena.Lets go PACT.
PF AND CATHOLICS I DONT KNOW WHY YOU BOTHER TO DISCUSS NCC BCOS YOU OUTRIGHTLY SAID DIDNT WANT TOHAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT. YOU THOUGHT OTHER CITIZENS WOULD JOIN YOU BUT ALAS THE KNEW CONSTITUTION IS NOW IN DRAFT FORM. WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT YOU WILL BE SUBJECTED TO THE SAME. YOU HAVE REALISED YOUR POOR JUDGEMENT RATHER TOO LATE THE HERO. WE LEAD AND YOU FOLLOW IN DECISION MAKING
““Do you have to go to such an extent if you do not agree with something? I think there are more civil ways that people can show disagreement.””
I hope you realize you’re talking about the PF here.
If you want to see more PF hooliganism, just read around on this blog and see the insults PF bloggers post. Behaving civil is alien to the PF.
This is part of democracy. This paper has no law to protect it and by tearing it, its the same the way you can tear a SHINDA paper. What maters is who is tearing it. But the one who is tearing it has reasons different to you. Don’t start insulting each other over a paper which will not even bring food on the plates of our brothers and sisters at home. The man was right according to what he feels about the paper. And if you think this paper is sacred then its sacred to you and not to him. This paper had it been that its protected by the law, you would have heard how people who have rushed to arrest this man. But failure to do so tells you who are condemning this that actually this paper is equal in status to a SHINDA paper.
give me a copy i tear it on your face!!
18, you have said well, thanks.
as much as i may not agree with the act of tearing the ‘draft constitution’ in public as a sign of disagreement, as for me, mr mukupa’s action represents the frustration of the numerous zambians who expected the ncc to do a better job than they have done so far. dear, ‘mr chifumu’, take heed of what the majority is saying.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM PEOPLE WHO RAN AWAY FROM SCHOOL.THE ONLY PAPER THEY KNOW IS A TOILET PAPER AND A KINK PAPER USED FOR SMOKING WEED.REASONING FOR THAT KIND OF PEOPLE IS DONE IN THE TOILET.
Tearing up of documents which people think are oppressive is a long standing tradition. Unip tore up the paper on the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland. MMD asked us to surrender our Unip Cards which they later destroyed,therefore who ever tore this discrinatory document was only excercising his/her rights.
CHIMANGENI CHI-CHI-COLOUR.CHI-MUKUKA. TOO MUCH DRINKING URINE FROM THAT HALF BEMBA PROPHETESS AND TOO MUCH SMOKING CHAMBA. KUPUSA CHIMUBEMBA BATI?
NCC spokesperson Mwangala Zaloumis said in an interview yesterday that it was wrong for the PF to politicise the cnstitution-making process- Who started the politicising? Is it not this woman and her group?
I have tried to make sense out of the whole debate about the tearing of the Draft constitution at a campaign rally. I would like to respect one thing about the PF MP; that he has shown us that he is not happy with what the NCC has done. He has the right to express his displesure. However, it is sad that he did it at a political rally; he should not have thought that all the people at the rally think or feel like him on this matter. Zambia is a demoractic country, in which people should not be forced to either support or oppose a particular idea. For example, does he think that everyone really wanted the draft document torn??
I do not agree with alot of things in that constitution but I would not allow someone to make me think what I do not want to. What did he mean by tearing the doc??
The draft constitution is nothing but a piece of “shinda” (toilet) paper and as such it deserves the act by this gentleman. The people that have made this draft constitution are also worth shinda paper. There is no bitting about the bush here the draft constitution contains only piles of bull to enhance the power of the president and promote corruption. What elst then can one say?
It is time to get rid of the PESTS in Western Zambia. Zambians unite !
#33 Jimmy,
I have followed you debate and it has made interesting “observation”. However, the MP was right to tear it at the rally, he was dimocratically expressing displeasure. nothing wrong. If there were pipo who were un-happy, they also have a democratic right to be sad, however there is no report that said pipo were sad at the rally for his action up to now, no report and u know LT Pro-MMD, they could have reported.
“There is no bitting about the bush here the draft constitution contains only piles of bull to enhance the power of the president and promote corruption”
Have you read it? If so then please state some of the articles in the draft constitution that promote corruption. Don’t forget to reference them.
The draft constitution was a sheer waste of time and valuable resources. A lot of salient ideas and opinions which were assembled in Mung’omba Constitution were discarded. Things like bill of rights for our nation,50%+1 threshold. The draft constitution is just a method of hoodwinking the citizenry. It is so obnoxious and mind torturing. The original constitution was raped by the so called MMD thugs in the name of GK and rebel PF MPs. Those who are celebrating the draft constitution are in for a great shock. That is a worthless,frivolous and raped document which will not add value to our welfare. It is worth flushing it down the drain.
U cn call this draft constitution SHINDA,PLAIN PAPER,GOLD PLATED PAPER or u cn even call it your name…tht point is tht it demonstrate the shear mokery tht the MMD govt is pouring on us,thy think we a in th stone age…we’l talk till th day the sun will refuse to come out n nothing will change!the best is to REGISTER AS A VOTER and chuck these good for nothing son’s of………….out!!!it pains!
thats the way to go…its was a waste of public resources…good move Mukupa!
:((:((:((:((:((:((:((:((:((:(( bring i tear it now…….because its an insult to the Zambian people…..:((:((:((:((:((:((:((
Dont just tear up documents and call them rubbish and thats it. Put forward sensible contributions mwana. A chance was afforded to you Sammy Mukuka to put forward your recommendations and you declined as PF. It is the same as always condemning the ruling party but never casting a vote. Even if the Draft Constitution is useless, then it is part of your responsibility to make changes. not just tearing it.
What is contained in that document is b.u.l.l.s.h.i.t, therefore the document iself shall be called shinda paper, period.
On “THE National Constitutional Conference (NCC) has said the conduct of Patriotic Front (PF) deputy national secretary Samuel Mukupa to tear the[NCC] Draft Constitution at a political rally is an insult to the many Zambians [especially the mighty UPND Team, a partner to PF in the PF-UPND PACT,] who have made submissions including Parliament,” it is sad that what PF’s Samuel Mukupa was done in the presence of PF unelected leader since 2001, two-university-degrees holding claimant, Michael Chilufya SATA — who said that he was going to rule Zambia for 5 yr until 2013 against the provisions of the current 1996 Constitution of Zambia in force at a rally during the 2008 presidential by-election.
Both a c t s by PF (leader MC Sata in 2008 and appointed-by-MC-SATA-secretary-general deputy Mukupa) have shown some well-meaning Zambians that PF does not respect Zambian laws especially the current 1996 and the NCC Draft Consitution (since late President Mwanawasa referred to the NCC as LAW because it passed through an Act of our current Parliament).
Thus, I urge the mighty UPND Team in the PF-UPND PACT never to allow PF to filed the 2011 PACT presidential candidate since PF may disregard a Vice-President from UPND if the PACT are to win the 2011 presidential elections under a PF person as 2011 PACT presidential candidate.
PF has sadly shown from time to time that they have anarchy behaviour and I hope the RB Banda Administration will arrest Mukupa.
Be blest.
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Matt 6:33
I have also deleted the draft constitution I downloaded from LT , after going through it I have realised that its just a piece of rubbish.
The comments on this blog create a frightening picture of Zambia. It appears that for some reason we are no longer able to debate issues but rather find it more convenient to mock and insult each other. At this rate Zambia is headed nowhere regardless of who wins the 2011 elections…..but perhaps this is not a representative sample…………
Aint it funny how people want to use even an individual’s behaviour in PF to cause didunity between UPND and PF in the pact. The NCC has so far spent K136 billion, yet they have discredited most of the submissions of ordinary Zambians made. Their wishes always seem to be superior or they think they are better suited to decide for the Zambians. I don’t blame someone tearing the draft constitution. He was marely expressing himself of which I think he is free to do
Snr Citizen, its Samuel Mukupa, not Mukuka. LOL
I have just torn one and its in my pit latrine as am writing.Useless paper made by SHINDA people.You wont force us to stomach such nonsense!
Let me just remind some bloggers the history behind this NCC conflict: Sata/PF were initially part of the NCC that sat down to agree on ways to adopt the new constitution. Some churches lead by the catholics & some NGOs did not agree with the politician driven constitutional making process and decided to boycott. Sata saw a political opportunity to exploit and decided to join the churches. That was the birth of the comflict. We expected those who opposed the constitutional making process to submit counter proposals, from outside, to influence the final outcome but unfortunately all what they have been doing is just oppose. In the end they will miss a golden opportunity to influence the outcome. Unfortunately due to the composition of parliament this process is unstoppable.
Zambians have been taken for a ride for far too long. Scholars in political science have repeatedly said for a constitution to have legitimacey major stakeholders must be involved. In Zed our leaders don’t give a shit who jumps on the bandwagon because they can hire bodies to fill up the hall. All monies spent on these constitution reviews have gone to waste because even the current draft is a shit document. The day we vote in a good team that draft is headed for the waste bin. It is sad that resources can be wasted on such fruitless exercises when we have other pressing needs. We shall overcome.
#35 Chomba,
Can you give the reason why you refer to the people of western province as pests and exactly what do you mean by getting rid of them? I think some of you whoever you represent and whatever your agenda is you are going too far. The issue here is about the tearing of a copy of the draft constitution by Samuel Mukupa and nothing to do with the Lozis.
As a right thinking Citizen of this Country,I can as well tear both the current Constitution and the draft because they are both ‘matuvi’.The Catholic Bishops have refused this so called draft Constitution,and many Civil Society groups have as well refused it BECAUSE IT DOESNT REFLECT THE Wishes of the people that were reflect the wishes of the Zambian people which were submitted in the Mung’omba and Mvunga draft constitution.Incase some people do not know,Mr.Chifumu Banda and Ms Mwangala Zoloumis’s law firms are not doing well,please go to Godfrey House and ask.So,are we not ashamed that our friends in Kenya were voting in a referendum to the new constitution when our own NCC is stealing K139Billion?. Come on Zambians,we are not foolish,we can do better than this.Stand up for this…
CHANGING THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE DRAFT CONST…whatever IS A FELONY. YOUR CON-stitution does not represent the wishes of zambians- you ripped them off.
At the moment,Zambia is a Police State.I we want to demonstrate so that we put across a message to those embiciles in NCC that what they are doing is rubbish,then Police will take it as a riot and they start shooting at the innocent Citizens.So,there is no better way of expressing our views,in other Countries we see people carrying placards to air their views over something they are not happy with,but not with Zambia.Whoever enacted the laws that bans demonstrations shouldnt have been born because that person is a devil who has surfocated us for a long time.
What are the contentious issues in the draft constitution that have upset people so much? We should be debating such issues instead of rubbishing the all the document. We need each other, it should not be called an “MMD constitution”. It is well known fact that some parties, institutions and individuals boycotted the process simply because it was initiated by one Levy Patrick Mwanawasa (MHRIP). What this nincompoop did is shameful, remember “what goes up comes around”. You do not have the monopoly of wisdom and should therefore have supported the process. We are closely watching your conduct on national issues and we shall reciprocate when you form government.
Unfortunately we will continue talking while GK and RB sneak in the unpopular draft constitution at the back door to keep them in power up to 2030. The best way to stop this is not to condemn everything in the draft constitution but to pin point areas where we differ and offer counter proposals. Time is running out!!!
The things we make hallowed in Zambia, ya, even a draft Constitution? It is just that, a draft constitution. If Mukupa bought it with his own money, he has the right to do what he wants to do with it, even sell nshaba in it. It would have been different if he had borrowed the document from Chifumo Banda’s circus. Even polony will no longer be wrapped in red because it is deemed a red card.
WAPYA MUNZI# 5 Dear brothers and sisters of zambia i ask you not to bring emotions and insults here..not only zambians read here but even other people from other countries.from this we show how we are..lets debate nomuchinshi. All what we need is to take our country ahead ,in this manner we can’t go anywhere please please …insults noooo..we say zambia is the christaina nation,is it true?
Well said number 45, for once I agree with you!!!
#’s 47 and 51 I appreciate your good comments and your sobriety. # 35 mfuli yobe!! I am slowly beginning to agree with the people who keep on saying you and your ilk will never form government in Zambia. What has Western province to your Shitison Mukupa? We mbwa we!
Worthless piece of paper. When we come in power, we will just enact the Mung’omba draft constitution without watering it down
There is no need to make submissions again. We submitted to Mung’omba Commission and Mvunga Commission the same thing. NCC decided to overrule what we submitted and is coming back to us to mock us!! Give those papers to market women for wrapping
Even in the courts of law-the learned Mukupa has done nothing wrong against the state or the people of zambia. If so, it would be written elsewhere in the archives of law. I am made to wonder why some MMD pro bloggers are insisting in qualifying this act to be wrong, when he was merely vitiating its contents. He may not need to disaprove of specific items because all the submissions being done-i.e,inclusion of abuse of office clause, 50+1, just to mention but a few, will never be headed by this money urgly Chifuma Banda & his pet Zolo. These are wasted academicians who are just their to wipe every coin the govt can rain down on them. It is only PF that will bring sanity to our societies engulfed in frauds. NCC has always overulled any ant-MMD submissions. So,i for one wuold have smoked…
In fact i just want to print mine & shit on it. It’s worthless.
Mr Chifuma Banda, the only way to earn respect for the NCC is to make it transparent.
History tells us that Nkhumbula did the same thing with the Federation at a public meeting with people in the Southern province before independence, why is this a big deal? Let us focus on reasons why people are not pleased with the draft constitution, let us refrain from insults and focus on issues at hand. I somehow find Lusaka Times to be biased in their reporting, LT let us be objective and PLEASE TRY TO FILTER COMMENTS THAT ARE OFFENSIVE
viva MMD!
THE BEHAVIOUR DISPLAYED BY MR MUKUPA, SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED AT ALL, AS IT SETS BAD PRECEDENCE TO THE BUDDING POLITICIAN OF THIS GREAT NATION.
AS MUCH AS HE IS NOT HAPPY WITH THE DOCUMENT, DOES NOT WARRANT HIM BEHAVE LIE A HOOLIGAN. IT THAT’S THE CALIBER OF PEOPLE WE HOPE TO BRING IN TO SAVE THE NATION, THEN I WORRY FOR THE FUTURE OF MOTHER ZAMBIA.. THERE ARE MANY CIVIL WAYS YOU EXPRESS YOUR DISPLEASURE AND TEARING A NATIONAL DOCUMENT IN PUBLIC IS NOT ONE OF THEM.
I KNOW THAT MR MUKUPA, DID IT BECAUSE OF THE ADRENALINE RUSH HE WAS HAVING AT THE POLITICAL RALLY….LETS BE CIVIL IN OUR DEALINGS, LADIES & GENTLEMEN
The draft constitution is just a papepr and not law. Even if it were law, people would not respect it coz it has not respected people’s submisions. Any way Mukupa was right in his own right to tear it. In the same vein, those who are saying it is a shinda(toilet) paper are right 100%. It is a toilet paper coz it has not respected people’s views.
“Meleki” was actually gentle to the document. If it was me, I would have shoved it “where it never shines” to wipe it clean. That is the only place it belongs. I mean, we all know what Zambians want and they through the Mung’omba and Mvungu Constitutional Review Commissions made this very clear. All one needed to do is a copy and paste job from the aforementioned reviews and you have captured the wishes of Zambian. So to me, its bravo to mwaiche wa kamina Mukupa Meleki!
Latest!! Votes counted so far indicate ADD commands a massive lead in Luena. In Chifubu, PF is pulling away with an ernomous landslide. MMD lelo…..!
Samuel Mukupa was far lenient; am itching to pee on tht compilation of crap, see bana_ba -imbwa spent more than 25bn US dollars fattening theirs butts! u kidding me 25bn bucks??????????????
These fools think they can intimidate people into supporting a flawed document. This is not the second republic where UNIP used to arrest anyone who so much as tore Kaunda’s photo.
Yes ADD has scooped the Luena seat. We are told it rained heavely in Luena it was Chuuu!
MMD alwala shiki polomya bane…..
MMD has LOST ALL THE TWO CONSTITUENCIES
Hey fallen is the whore MMD
Let us merry and be happy for the big harlot MMD has been smarshed in Chifubu and Luena.
Hehe haha hoho MMD is left with skeleton .
I am not surprised because these same pf guys do not have any document to guide them ( no constitution) what a party anyway. We are yet to see more when they come to power. Someone already prophesied that next year there will be change of government but people will realise that they made a mistake and thereafter thats when they will make a progressive change. This just shows how uncivil some of it’s members are including the leader. I really feel for journalists in our country, because they are yet to experience the worste in their lives with this coming change. In all documents you may not agree with certain articles but it does not mean you have to hate everything in it, learn to be civil pf guys we know your leader proved his uncivil manners on VOA.
dear oh dear! Having read the comments above, I think chaps such as Mukupa have a considerable following among those who are quick to offer opinions and judgement without any understanding of the basic facts. Perhaps those who denounce the document so vehemently should suggest alternative avenues for specific sections that they disagree with. The entire document cannot be ‘rubbish’ as some have so eloquently described it, I presume having read it from cover to cover. As for those who protest that other drafts have not been adopted and therefore this draft should also be discarded, I would recommend an episode of Pink Panther to sharpen their arguments. Clearly reasoned verbal discourse is too much of an inconvenience for that group, as it is for those who regularly hurl insults at…
…others!
hehehe…fallen is the great whore MMD
Fallen is the corrupt harlot MMD
Country men and women, let us merry and be happy
for the dull MMD thugs are baried in Chifubu , chimwemwe and Luena.
hehehe Sata and Malupi have congured the Great son of pedition MDD the Harlot.
haha hoho haha MMD is left with a skeleton …..
The constitution making process must not be mistaken as Law. I have seen the same constitution being used by MMD cadres for wrapping vitumbuwa in eastern province. why because cadres do not care about details but vitenges. Mukupa my mbuya is very gentle as for me I took it to the shredder and finally to the sewer line near somebody’s plot
sorry for losing in Chifubu and Luena. My condolences
Viva Mukupa. Chifumu and Mwangala are just but zombies who should be taken to court and requested to repay the money “stolen” from the Zambians through this failed constitution making process.