Patriotic Front (PF) and United Party for National Development (UPND) members of Parliament on March 29 walked out of a vote on the Constitution of Zambia Bill, effectively dashing hopes for a new constitution.
The Constitution of Zambia Bill, which seeks to provide for the printing and publication of the amended Constitution, failed to go through second reading in Parliament.
Commenting on the development, Chief Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha said the opposition has dashed the hopes of millions of Zambians who looked forward to the new Constitution to move the country forward, by not supporting the Constitution of Zambia Bill at second reading stage.
Lieutenant-General Shikapwasha said in a statement released last evening that by not supporting the bill, the PF and UPND have depicted the worst levels of betrayal, self-centredness and selfishness.
Gen Shikapwasha said the bill was intended to promote the participation of women, youths and the disabled through the proportional representation in Parliament in line with the Southern African Development Community (SADC) and other continental protocols.
He said the PF and UPND have dashed Zambia’s hope for proportional representation which could have been provided for in the Constitution for the first time since independence.
Gen Shikapwasha said one of the hopes is the reinforcement of the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation.
“The bill sought to renew and reinvigorate the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation. But all this and other highly progressive provisions have been dashed by traitors of the Zambian people, the PF and UPND,” Gen Shikapwasha said.
He noted the PF would rather have the recognition of homosexuality and lesbianism before supporting the Constitution of Zambia Bill, which he said is immoral. Gen Shikapwasha described PF MPs as ‘vultures.’
Gen Shikapwasha regretted that after deputising the National Constitution Conference (NCC) sittings, UPND decided to join the ‘vultures.’
He said opposition political parties have also dashed the hope of increasing the number of constituencies and denied Zambians in the Diaspora dual citizenship.
He said the Constitution of Zambia Amendment Bill is not a position of Government but a position and aspiration of the people of Zambia through the NCC.
Gen Shikapwasha revealed that a few days ago, the PF leadership wrote to Government asking for money, cars and increased allowances to support the bill and that Government refused because the demand amounted to dishonesty and corruption.
He said the PF wants to turn Zambia into the Lusaka City Council where they shared land among themselves.
Gen Shikapwasha said Zambians are the best judges on the action the two opposition political parties have taken against them.
He said the Constitution-making process has been a people-driven process through and through since inception in 2003.
Gen Shikapwasha said the NCC, which was put in place by an act of Parliament to consider the Mun’gomba report and Draft Constitution, sat for about four years from 2007 to 2010 and it represented all people in the country.
The Mung’omba Constitution Commission went around the country and received submissions from people on the type of Constitution they wanted, in all of the 150 constituencies.
He said it is clear that the constitution-making process has been most transparent, democratic, inclusive and participatory.
On March 29, Parliament failed to garner a two-thirds majority to have the constitution of Zambia bill read for the second time after Vice-President George Kunda moved the motion.
Speaker of the National Assembly Amusaa Mwanamwambwa said the failure of the bill to go through second reading has closed the door to the Constitution of Zambia (Amendment) Bill at second reading.
“This means the door is shut to the consideration of the Constitution of Zambia (Amendment) Bill at second reading. The implication is that the republic of Zambia still has the 1991 Constitution as amended substantially in 1996,” he said.
After Mr Kunda moved the motion, there was division and the initial vote resulted in 96 MPs voting for the bill to be read the second time, 17 were against it and one abstained.
The MPs voted twice, first electronically and then formed physical queues outside the house, according to their preference. The total number of parliamentarians who voted was 114 and to get the required two-thirds majority for the bill to go through, those who voted for it should have been 106.
Mr Mwanamwambwa called for another count when more members of Parliament entered the house. The Speaker said there was going to be a physical vote after the counting machine in Parliament malfunctioned. At that point, PF MPs walked out of Parliament in protest at about 15:15 hours, claiming the bill had collapsed.
“The machine has malfunctioned and because of this, we now truly have to divide,” he said.
After the second voting, 93 members of Parliament voted in favour of the bill, none voted against it while 20, mostly from the UPND, abstained from voting.
Before the second voting, UPND MPs were not agreed on whether to support the bill or not but after consulting each other for several minutes, they decided to abstain.
Earlier, when moving the motion to have the bill read the second time, Mr Kunda said the bill is progressive, not controversial, and that it has proposals that will affect the executive, legislature, and judiciary.
The Constitution of Zambia Bill also sought to provide for the savings and transitional provisions of existing State institutions, administrators, offices, institutions and laws; and savings of succession to assets, rights, liabilities, obligations and legal proceedings.
Soon after the results of the second voting, Mr Mwanamwambwa adjourned Parliament.
[ Zambia Daily Mail ]
Lelolelo!! Lelolelo!! Can all involved please refund the allowances to the Treasury. UPND MPs is HH in control really???
Congratulations UPND MPs for being brave. They thought you can be bought and thanks for your braverly. What we wanted in that constitution was removed (50 + 1). Hard Luck MMD, try next time.
Ronnie its your govt that has let the people down.Who told u that we are interested in the ‘george kunda ‘
constitution? The people were all agreed on the Mungomba draft constitution .period.
The center can not hold.Let them pay back the money.
Ba UPND why abstain at the last minute when you were busy eating tax payers money(our hard earned cash) all these years? Billions wasted. WHAT A NATION?
Betrayers!
The PF has never participated in this constitution making process so the failure of this bill is a plus for us. Shame on Kunda and big ups to the UPND for the first time.
Ba mwanamwambwa hahahaha…ati..’Mr Mwanamwambwa called for another count when more members of Parliament entered the house. The Speaker said there was going to be a physical vote after the counting machine in Parliament malfunctioned’ what f…..!!!!!! ‘international tricks’ in Parliament!!!
Shikaponyo know that its you who betrayed the people of Zambia right from the start. You changed the Mung’omba draft Constitution to suit your MMD. PF rejected the whole thing right from the start. You removed the 50+1 and other contentious amendments like President’s running mate and others which you referred to referendum and which your Kunda said only the agreed amendments will be entertained in parliament. You need to pay back the money you thieves and national plunderers.
I do not understand all these rantings about UPND. Had PF and the other civil society organisations participated in the NCC as one united opposition, MMD would not have found it easy to push their selfish agendas in the draft constitution. We would have come up with a better draft than this. I still think there is reason to celebrate despite having spent billions on tge draft because had it gone through, it was going to cost us even more not only in monetary terms but in all areas of human endevour.
Good show UPND.MMD thought they were clever by removing the 50%+1 and the presidential running mate. UPND cannot be bought a of party of intellectual. Good job done HH. VIVA HH 2011.
Why can’t we amend the constitution piecemeal.I’m sure there are some aspects that all parties agree on eg. Dual citizenship,promotion of women,youth and disabled etc.The Mps can then vote on those aspects and those that pass go through.The controversial ones go back to the drawing board instead of redoing the whole thing again and wasting time and money.
Immoral Shikapwasha you thought you would continue riding on the naive UPND so called intelligent MP’s. you have been taught a lesson fake reverand. you are now lying that PF wanted cash and vehicles from you. ba upnd naimwe you should be equally principled next time not to be used in the whole process and you enjoy the cash just to dump your pay masters at the last moment when they needed you most. hard luck ba MMD with your shameless re
bel MP’s. Ba rebel MP’s nchito yasila manje apart from endorsing RB. we will make a people constitution next year.
The MMD are to blame. The pushed out everything that people wanted (50+1, running mate, ministers outside parliament, parliament oversight on debt aquisition) and thought they will have what the wanted to pass thru parliament. Well done to the few MPs who voted against.
Mwatulila amasuku pamutwe.
Can all those delegates who participated in the NCC refund all the allowances they got from NCC before we start demonstrating. THIEVES, PLUNDERERS return the taxpayers money nooooooooow! Shikapwasha and your friends you’ll be answerable for this thuggery.
Our money going to a waste, yet their is a family out their spending a day without a meal, no shelter. Where are we going as a country?Its good that this has happened because it lucked peoples will in it, the situation is appalling. God hears our cries everytime and the falling of MMD is somehow lamentable, worse yet to come.
Dounchi kubeba. Shikapwasha ubupuba. Who told u, we are interested in dual citizen. Mind you we are interested in reducing the powers of the presido, people driven constitution and economic recovery. The score is 1 : 0 first half. 2 more months before you become underpressure. UPND is trying to build its image after pulling out from the pact so expect more heat.
VIVA DEMONSTRATION VIVA and the people say VIIIIIIVAAAAAAA!
Nowadays I scroll down for the report source before I read. I can see it is a useless bias as usual. I always wonder why it is that government expects people’s representatives to MISrepresent their people by following the dictates of the executive only!!!! Shikapwasha must have conceded with much cleaner statements than this because it is not PF and UPND that have “killed” the constitution – the seams were already bursting wtih discontent even as they were deliberating this formulation and earning their billions of Kwachas in s(h)itting allowances.
Since when did clown Shikashiwa speak for the women, youth, diaspora and the disabled. He even wanted to cry because it signalled the end of their time. Azagulisa na Church.
Uh, I have never been this happy in the last four days. Congrats UPND and PF. Ba Shikapwanyo, sorry, parliament has shown that its not Religion where all people leave their rationality in favour of the unknown. Congrats UPND and PF UPND – Kubeba hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe. Well done to the opposition, including Milupi!
Yaba koma iliko baaaaad:-?
Maybe the military establishment should have a right to withdraw ranks/tittles of non serving officerz like Lt. Gen. Ronnie Shikapwasha.
shame shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Every dog has his day, this time around does not look like it’s for this dog Shikapwashsa and his minions. Too bad for zambia cause we have lost milions of kwacha. Sorry for the language, but please forgive me cause i have a temper and wen i lose it, i lose control.
This country shall never move forward. speechless!
Shikapwasha, just another “Drama queen”. Is this not the same COZB that was going to be letting politician go free after stealing from GRZ????
For once, our parliament truly represented our hopes and aspirations. The MMD had designed the dumped constitution to make Zambia their dead-end nation. By refusing to accept the new constitution, we have fired the first shot against abuse of office, corruption and the ultimate goal of chasing thugs and thieves from public office.
The title to the article should have been ‘PF UPND kills MMD dreams’
The title to the article should have been ‘PF UPND kills MMD’s dream’
Please note that the source is ‘Banda Daily Mail’
Shikapwasha what a lair ,who wrote you a letter to demand for cars and money?? Wamona nomba wasanguka fye ichipuba.we cant believe you..*****!!
The MMD has 95 MPs. Shikapwasha should have said that the betrayal came from the Rebel PF MPs from which MMD would have sort support. With their support 2rds would have been reached.
MMD should be aware that if they had Chilanga, Mufumbwe, Solwezi Central, Bwacha, Isoka and Dr. Musonda’s (the shooter) consituencey, support from Mulongoti, support from Shakas, support from Mpombo; the bill could have gone through!
Ala mwani chansoni sana mwe bantu. impiya ubwingi ishaonaika fyeeeeeeeeee. Ukumfwa ifyo abantu balelanda nefyo balefwaya chaliwama. This money would have done alot for the majority poor Zambians but has gone to waste. My heart is bleeding right now.
@31
Ala mune WABUFI WENYE naine wine nancikalipa ukumona amakana na makana ya ma kwacha ukuyaponenafye mu tunwa twa nkalamo, chabipa sana indalama shesu ukonaika fye.Ala bane chaliwama ukumfwa ifilefwaya abantu.
UPND were brave enough to participate as they tried to push for good reforms in this constitution but they worked with corrupt minions whose interest was to see they push for their agenda,as for PF shame coz they just follow without any direction when they shunned that NCC if they joined hands with UPND it was not going to be an easy game but PF because of kuliboneshya atttitude they thot they are brave when not,had MMD included clauses meant to empower people UPND MPs wouldnt have pulled out. both PF and MMD are minions coz we wanted a good constitution not that cramp MMD gave us and not Shunning away from the prosess like thugs in PF did just to praise their gay master and chief lesbian/thug
Amafisa kanwa!!!
PF for Life!!!
YOU HAVE YOSELVES TO BLAME AFTER WASTING MONEY AT THE NCC…..DONCHI KUBEBAA
K200 Billion down the drain………………..?
What a waste of tym and human resource.Arrogance cn be very costly.Peolpe Power.
My question goes to upnd. Were you not part of NCC? Why then have you not votes for the constitution which you made? I just can understand these intellectuals. The kaponyas yes I spare them they were not part of NCC. But upnd I just wonder as to why you decided to receive money and refuse to vote. Pay back the money. Viva pf
UPND was playing the donchi kubeba. After eating the money with them they turned round and hit them pants down.
UPND we are watching. The message is loud and clear, U do not trust MMD on this important task.
All i wanted was the endorsement of Dual Citizenship, damn these Chaps!.. i can’t take the risk now of ditching my Zambian citizenship.You *****s, will you at least agree on the duo Citizen portion ala!
Please Please napapata, I need this book if anyone has it I want to it
“NCC stand for National Confused Crew” written
By Mwangala Zaloumis and George Kunda
You see I told you that this Nothing Coming Collaboration was going nowhere Zambians should stand up and demand the sitting NCC delegates to repay the monies. If they dont we shall report them to the United Nations Organisation for their mismanagement. Zambia is a signaturily to UNO and Human Rights are paramount and these are embedded in the constitution of Zambia
Help Zambians when did writing a letter become a corruption case? I am worried because I was thinking to write to my woman to ask to go out with her to Muundawanga. I will be dishonest and corrupt!
Which one of you bloggers did not want the following:-
1. Dual Citizenship clause?
2. Proportional representation to increase women, youth and disabled participation?
3. Stopping appointment of loing Parliamentary candidates into civil service and as District Commissioners?
Those dreams hav been killed. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bath water!
The MPs voted twice, first electronically and then formed physical queues outside the house, according to their preference.
Can someone give us the breakdown of the Votes when the electronic system was used, so that we compare the results of the 2 forms of voting. I have a feeling there could be some MMD members who voted against the bill during the electronic voting. And they could be some opposition members who could have voted for the bill. [Votes must be done in secrecy for fear of victimization, not uku paga ama queue ya for or against, very childish]
3. Stopping appointment of loSing
Ronnie,GK,MMD MP’s,UPND MP’s,PF REBEL MP’s,Lifwekelo,Chifire,Siulapwa,Fake Bishop’s and Pastors,MMD sponsered NGOs shame on you.Wise man SATA said many times over NCC as money spining ventures,Ment to suit a few corrupt pipos.They adopted removal of abuse clause,sidelined 50/1,withdraw basic human rights etc.When pipo speak,learn to listern.MMD is headed for the graveyard this year.All kaunda’s sons are surpporting PF/SATA,wonder WHY?RB has embraced FTJ who jailed him on chrismas day,killed wezi.Super ken is wise using his children now.SATA has been vendicated now
Nakapwasha is the dullest man alive! MMD wanted to personalise the constitution and refused to listen to our aspirations. Why is he hallucinating now?! You chaps refused to recognise food, water and shelter as basic human rights, you refused vice president running mate, you refused 50%+1, you removed all progressive submissions now you are hallucinating, DONTI KUBEBA!
And BRE is still the constitution. It is therefore important that these thugs appologisr for mongu killing
UPND are now like chameleons and cannot be trusted anymore. not easy to figure out their principles
Shakapwasha you are a big fool…shame on you. Shakapwasha is a satanist and sadist, he enjoys when other people are suffering. MMD kuya bebele… How can you say PF are vultures when right from beginning PF was against it. UPND are the vultures because they participated and got the money, the money which belong to Zambian people. Thinking is very painful for Shikapwasha.
it wise for opposition stand how do i support constitution they have removed what pipo wanted viva oppostions
FOR SURE THERE IS NO LOSER NCC CHEWED THE MONEY. MMD STILL IN POWER AND WILL REMAIN SO. OPPOSITION IS NOT SURE OF WHAT THEY NEED. OTHER CONSTITUTIONAL MATTERS REQUIRE REFERENDUM SUCH HUGE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS NOT AVAILABLE THIS YEAR. IAM GIVING YOU ANOTHER CHANCE OR NO MP WILL BE VOTED AGAIN ESPECIALLY UPND AND PF. WATCH OUT
what the MPS did was good and thank God..The MMD Govt. removed some things from the consitution which were adopted..but they did not present them..so that consitution wasnt a reflection of what people wanted..MMD manipulated it.
Kekekeke . . . . . Gregory Chifire en your clowns we are waiting for your press briefing. What’s your stance or comment. . . Shame ba Rev Shikafimofimo he was even emotional when reading or issuing the statement. Blame yourself not PF or UPND. PF refused from the word go how did you expect them to support you. Other Bills they support. . . I love this only sad thing is we can’t recover Billions spent.
How did you expect the PF to support this money-wasting venture that doesnt even address the aspirations of the people ?
It is advised not to speak ill of the dead but if someone who’s gone to the other side did something wrong this side, a spade should be a spade and I therefore put this waste of money, time, resources too huge to even contemplate squarely on LEVY MWANAWASA!! He was advised from the on-set not to even form the CRC but instead appoint eminate persons from the church, civil society and a cross section of citizens to adopt recommendations from the Mwanakatwe CRC, he never listened. Even after the Mung’omba CRC, he was advised not to go the NCC route led by politicians but the Citizen Forum route led by the civil society and the three church mother bodies. He still did not listen, even though he was in his second term, with nothing to lose but everything to gain by listening to the people…
#57 contd….Politicians from Kaunda, Chiluba, Mwanawasa and now Banda have failed to give a people’s constitution. This can’t and will never happen as long as we depend on the good will of an individual to give us a people’s constitution, because he/she is just one person and NOT the PEOPLE. Not even HH or Sata…However, Mwanawasa had a very unique opportunity to go down in history for all the right reasons but greed for the unknown blinded him and he blew it. May His Soul Just Rest (MHJR)
Iyo kwena UPND has done a donchi kubeba 4 real.. after chewing the NCC money and defending their participation, they reject their own document!! I don’t understand them anymore. who they are what they want .. what they are about.. confusing. one thing i know.. is that they are, just like MMD broke hungry money loving intellectuals that would throw away all moral fibre and integrity to make an extra buck.. At least the Kaponya’s resisted the financial temptation and which for me counts the most. they are certainly the more serious in addressing our issues than their former PACT partner.
I shall always remind you great Zambian citizens to Vote for Micheal Chilufya Sata in this year’s Election!!
VIVA pabwatoooo>>>>>>
KHUTA@33
UPND participated in the NCC to push their agenda to have HH as presidential candidate of the PACT. UPND MPs all supported the Degree clause that would have barred Sata and hence have HH for pact president. When the degree clause was removed, on calculations for MMD, there was nothng for UPND thus the move to pull out of the PACT and now, just to show some ‘skeletons’ choosing not to vote for a constitution they they so actively particpated in crafting. You and Shikapwasha canno spin this on PF! So, the sellouts to the people of Zambia are the intellectual UPND MPs who allowed MMD to use them.
“Reverand” Shikapwasha. You were very particular a bout the degree clouse, now look the so learned people including your self, how you have shamelesly without regard of what you read in the bible if realy you are a true Reverand, mis interpretation of Satas’ comment about Gay and lesibianism in Zambia. Please we tired of hearing the same nonsense from you. If you have no facts to fight Sata with, just keep your big mouth zipped. You Valtures, Sata will squize the 20 billion from you.
Thank God, this constitution has not gone through. The money that was spent on NCC could have been just enough for the Constituent Assembly.
MMD Cabinet Minister called basic human rights as UTOPIA, and today Shikapwasha thinks Zambians suffer from retrograde amnesia as to forget what they have been peddling in Parly. He is talking about homos bill, has PF ever presented to Parliament a bill to legalise homosexuality? That is really absurd for a Govt Official of his position. This is the beginning of people power.
@ Uwakwisano, I agree with you, that is where LEVY MWANAWASA could have stood up against social mercenaries in his Govt like George Kunda who form the axis of evil against the Zambian Citizens.
MMD must start waking up to the needs of people. Good lesson.
MMD claims not to have lost anything as Dora said the people have lost like the opposition so they enjoyed the money and have nothing to lose. Bye Bye MMD.
Shikapwasha is a liar. The MMD has been shaken by this failure.
MISPLACED ANGER AND CHEAP CAMPAIGNS MR LONG NOSE SHIKAPWASHA.
PF,CCZ,CTHOLIC CHURCH AND GENUINE NGOs DIDNT PARTICIPATE IN NCC BECAUSE RED LIPS
HAD EVIL PLANS.
VIVA PF AND SATA COME 2011.
PA BWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE BEGINNING OF THE WIND OF CHANGE COME 2011. VIVA HON.KAMBWILI
This means Abuse of office clause is still in force, am sure some people are now wondering who is gonna sue the for it and how soon.
Ba Lt/G Shikapwasha you are like a little child been warned of the dangers of HIV and when you contract it you hate the ones who advised you in the first place turning them look like monsters and rejoicing over your infection. MMD was warned and strongly advise from all quarters including the church regarding the whole process conducted by NCC. You thought you knew what you were doing. Stop pointing fingers at PF or UNPD while four finger are pointing at you. Stop looking for sympathy by pointing out what Zambians have lost out. Lesson to pick up…”one groundnut can spoil the other good ones in the mouth” MMD’s pride and arrogance has lead to the failure of the adoption hence all good clauses like due citizenship has gone down the drain…. Now we are telling you…PF is winning start…
Zambian idi.ots, they fail to understand simple things. I have seen a number of postings blaming the UPND parliamentalians for participating in the NCC & then voting against the bill. What these nut heads don’t seem to see is that even in the NCC there was voting & the UPND MPs lost most on most clauses which they had hoped to win by participating. Now how do you expect them to support something which they have been against all along?
Hey Rhupiaitis @ 69, I am with you on this one. Just like the Degree Clause
I have always said that the Political arena is not for job seekers. Job seekers want to get a job and get paid at the end of the day. Look at our politicians and tell me what you see. Do you see job seekers or
those who want to work for the suffering masses??
I can bet you that no one will take responsibility for the monies wasted on the NCC, and then life will go as normal. Which job pays you K1 billion after working for 5 years as terminal benefits. It is only in politics you get such kind of money.
Solution: Remove all those funny benefits that Parliamentarian get, and then, only then you will see serious people who want to really work for the suffering masses get into politics. You only hear of some political parties in the election years because it is time to make money.
Look at the people who join politics, please do and tell me what you see!!!!! LOL!!!!
there was a meeting between an emissary of PF with Magande. Mr. Magande has agreed to support Sata on condition he is made Minister of Finance when Sata becomes President.
One thing which is coming out prominent over this issue is that the whole NCC process was not people driven, the people driven issues were discarded along time ago when well meaning issues which were submitted in the Mung’omba review commission were thoughtfully left out in the draft and as you have rightly observed Sata has been consistent about this thing…Posterity will judge you shikapwasha so will it visit one arrogant individual George Kunda…
Sata for President!!!!
Some people don’t understand that participation in NCC does not mean you support what NCC comes up with. The NCC was composed of a lot of chaps rounded up just to cheer on the MMD position. UPND couldn’t win everything at NCC but they fought & lived to fight another day.
What the UPND has done is Imoral.
For once, I commend PF for being consistent on this issue.
If the UPND knew they were not in support of the process, why did they support NCC to the very end? Is it because they wanted our tax????
This is completely imoral and a practice of decipt.
If the UPND did not believe in the process, they should have done like PF – stay away.
This was probably going to persuade the gvt to reconsider the move and go for dialog instead of going ahead as those opposing would have been in the majority.
The gvt would then, have known outrightly that the bill would not pass without majority support of parliamentarians and hence would not have gone ahead with NCC. This would have saved our taxes from going to waste.
What UPND has done is unacceptable.
50 + 1, was not in the draft constitution, Veep as running mate of the Presidential candidate was not included. etc. GK “red lips” thought he could play a fast one on Zambians. Silly Dora says MMD has not lost anything but rather people of Zambia have been robbed. But the fact is MMD got a smack right in the face and are wondering what next. Pa ZED it’s like a thriller.
1. The NCC was an illegal entity
2. The UPND Joined the NCC with ill intent
3. Every one who bought so much as a spoon from NCC funds will have to bring the Money one of these
coming days
UPND thought one of the issue the degree clause will go through so that they benefit (forcing PF to back them). They made a mistake.
The MMD lavishly feted the delegates to the NCC in the hope that the Geogre Kunda Driven constitution is passed to benefit the MMD. The MMD were busy shouting at the Catholic Church & PF for shunning what they the MMD said was the most sucessfull NCC ever. Now after UPND eat the money, they have come to their senses & now eating with both hands, dribbled the MMD by not supporting the BLL. He He He
Where is SENIOR CITIZEN? I miss your comments.LMAO
On orders PF MP in droves ran AWOL from Constitution proceeding in the Chamber
What this Desertion means to the dismay of all Citizens that sent them to parliament:
1)-PF desertion has killed hope for proportional representation.
2)-PF desertion has killed hope of increasing the number of constituencies citizens asked for.
3)-PF desertion has killed RB’s endorsed clause of Zambians in the Diaspora earning dual citizenship.
4)-PF desertion has refused the reinforcement of the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation.
5)-Instead the PF would rather have the recognition of homosexuality and lesbianism before supporting the Constitution of Zambia Bill.
Empirical evidence has surfaced that Sata ordered his MPs to kill the constitutional bills in preference for his sponsored 1996 constitution. Zambians know very well that the 1996 was a Sata sponsored constitution. Like he killed people’s aspirations in 1996, he has killed it again through orders on his MP to be AWOL in the chamber. Sad day for Zambia indeed.
All in all a country has and will have to run on the bad Sata’s 1996 constitution. Elections will be held on the 1996 Sata constitution, while going forward Governance will be on the bad Sata 1996 constitution, public policies on the bad Sata 1996 constitution while Government social responsibilities on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. This will be so until such a time all betrayers of public interest in PF have been dis-elected and are left moribund with their Sata in the dustbin of history.
To prove that the bad 1996 constitution is Sata’s own, ZANIS will run a video of 1996 Sata/Nawakwi dance on Parliamentary floor
The bad 1996 Sata constitution is where the devil incarnate himself and Nawakwi sponsored it and went wiggling on the floor of parliamentary chambers that Kaunda alala alala, Kaunda alala alala, Dipak Patel Alala alala, Simon Zukas alalal alala.
In another vain UPND had one good reason among the many compelling bad Choice of attending the NCC. They thought they could influence from inside. Mistake. MMD had in-built majority in the NCC. Now that they have realised MMD was using them, they dumped the MMD George Kunda driven NCC. he he he at least for once UPND has done the right thing.
There is no way a normal person would condition his party vote on the august house including Homosexual rights in the constitution and knocking off the the preamble of Christian nation. Beyond his Satanic covenant with hell under demonic torment, perversion has just gone to the head of Sata. Surely are gay rights important than the
-hope for proportional representation.
– hope of increasing the number of constituencies citizens asked for
RB’s endorsed clause of Zambians in the Diaspora earning dual citizenship
– reinforcement of the declaration of Zambia as a Christian nation.
-the 50+1 clause?
Since when did gay rights take precedence in our national interest for Sata to put a condition that its omission means a reversion to his bad 1996 constitution?
Senior CITIZEN u are wrong to say and I quote
“Empirical evidence has surfaced that Sata ordered his MPs to kill the constitutional bills in preference for his sponsored 1996 constitution.. Sata didi not kill the Constitution”. End of quote.
Sata has been consistant on this NCC issue. He boycotted it for a reason which is still valid today. IT is UPND that has killed it. They participated and yet voted against it. Surely u will be foolish to think PF would suport the resolution of the NCC for which they democratically chose not to have anything to do with. If UPND, the one u dined with at NCC had voted for it, it could have gone through, But at last moment sided with the people. U are so drunk with the SATA’s name that u want to drag him along even in your drowning. Save…
UPND could not vote without 50%+1 and the BRE clause..viva UPND…
PF a party with no plan for development and a UPND party that is shadowy and immature. Chwe Chwe Chwe Chwe Chwe Chwe Chwe
One Zambia,one nation, one vote, only one RB
Since when did gay rights take precedence in our national interest for Sata to put a condition that its omission means a reversion to his bad 1996 constitution?
Even if you have sold your party to gays and turned it into a gays party, national interests ought to take precedence. Now elections will be held on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. All disputes thereof will be handled on the bad Sata 1996 constitution. Shame on Sata and PF.
There was no need for UPND MP’s to go to NCC because it is the same people who could have defended that in parliament by voting against it like they did, so to me they wanted our tax.Long live SATA VIVA PF,hope Chanda Chimba the third will come up with a documentary on this issue.I would not be surprised to see it go against His Excellency Michael Chilufya Sata president of the Patriotic Front of the Republic of Zambia.
#91 Senior Citizen …..Thanks so much. u are one of few pipo who can NOT be cheated….because u know the true colours of people. This constitution we are trying to CHANGE was a MANIPULATION of the people in 2006 by SATA, NAWAKWI, CHILUBA. The CHURCH the CIVIL SOCIETY, and General PUBLIC held protests to pressure CHILUBA TOP BRASS not to go AHEAD to pass the constitution. THEY DD NOT LISTEN. We remember SATA telling DIPAK PATEL to go to INDIA if he does NOT LIke the CONSTITUTION as ammended. SATA was outspoken in support of this bad 1996 over the constitution.I REMEMBER the CATHOLIC clergy and other people being arrested at freedom statue when they were protesting. SATA said ONLY foreigners like PATEL and ZUKAS are against the constitution.How can pipo say SATA was consistent from start
Once again fellow country men i urge you to to vote Mr. Micheal Chilufya Sata for President do not be blinded by blind followers like Senior Citizen and kc!!!
Pabwatooo for life Mpangula Mputyu # 88 I love your consistence!
VIVA PF!!!
SATA and NAWAKWI are the CAUSE of this constitution MESS we are in today. Its SAD that people can say SATA dd good NOT to support NCC. Because PIPO where going to remind him what he dd in 1996. He TOLD the people the 1996 constitution will stand the test of time……1996 to 2003…is this the TEST of TIME. So lets NOT only blame the current CROP of LEADERS but also bring out hypocrits who brought this mess amid public protests in 1996. So LET SATA tell US why he gave us this bad CONSTITUTION in 1996 against the will of the ZAMBIAN people……….
I have seen that both PF and UPND are untrustworthy, hence the names COBRA and PRINCE COBRA.
They are full of deceipt.
THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL….IFWE NI PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
# 34 iwe Khuta, any person who is not an embecile, could see that the consitute of the NCC favoured MMD and will push for the rejected agenda! For the UPND MPS, why join in ripping off the country using the NCC? PF had foresight, maturity and selflessness, they could not be duped. I was very keen to work with PF/UPND pact, but after wards, VIVA PF, VIVA MCS!
PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
SATA FOR PRESIDENT
2011
PABWAAATOOOOOOO>>>>
The boat is gaining ground
Vote for Sata!!!
UPND Mps wanted to try and facilitate what was written by the people….so that they replace WHAT SATA VOWED to defend until his last drop of blood in 1996. The problem is NOT the UPND Mps…at least they tried…..BUT why DD SATA give us the rotten CONSTITUTION in 1996? IF he gave us what the people of ZAMBIA had said in 1996….this MESS would NOT have been their….so we are reaping bad political experience of 1996……which will cost more money to change.
Add 50%+1 clause,presidential running mate then we vote.
It is not SATA who gave you the 1996 constitution #101 but your political consultant FTJ who was in the driving seat. Learn to aportion correctly issues and do not just lump on somebody just because you hate them
Roni can u shut up ure mouth who told u that we wanted mmd and kunda’s constitution. and u upnd mp’s ure too selfish after chewing our monies ANYWAY….. …………. VIVA PF MP’S WE SHALL HAVE A DRIVEN PIPO CONSTITUTION NEXT YEAR .ABUSH KUNDA AND URE FAKE pastor roni
#103 well done in correcting that ignorant chap….Viva Sata Viva PF and #99 indeed Sata for President
Kwena mulampapusha sana. Big chimona you’re representing a constituence and hence you got to ask the pipo you represent b4 voting in parliament.UPND MP’s went to thier costituency and listened to the people.But your arrogance made you think that villegers you represent needs more of wat you picked unlike the issues you left in yo chi NCC.How many zambians are in diaspora that we can count on? they can’t even fill up in my palm and does the govt need a better constitution to take care of our few disabled freinds in this country? mwanya ba mmd kupusa>>>>>>>
#83 Senior Citizen…..you are behaving now like a chap from State house…..fact of the matter was that they were issues regarding the way NCC behaved/managed the whole process hence the pulling out of the whole process, how can you claim today that Sata ordered the boycott of PF MPs when they did not partake of it and are simply sticking to what was agreed…. your analysis needs much desirable attention
You can abstain, walk out, or tose on the blog say what ever they want to say, but we shall make sure that PF and UPND are punished, really punished throught the ballot. Mukalila bane in the next few months wether you like it or not. Read my lips.
We shall see who will have the last laugh.In all this MMD have themselves to blame for not giving people the type of constitution they wanted. They were the managers of the whole set up.The non participation of some political parties, churches and NGOs was due to MMD non adherence to put the fundamentals of the discussions to be on a level playfield because they wanted to have a builtin majority in the NCC. MMD are just bad managers who are blaming others for failing to manage the whole process. Constitution making process requires that you take all groups on board and find common ground to encompass all ideas of the majority and minorities.Lokk at RSA, Bostwana and Namibia how they managed the whole process but it seemed we never learnt anything from them inspite visiting these countries