GLOBAL Justice Zambia has described Patriotic Front (PF) president Michael Sata’s support for gay rights as unthinkable.
Global Justice Zambia advocacy and campaign manager Samson Zulu, who is also a founder member of PF, said a leader of Mr Sata’s status should not be seen to be supporting such ungodly acts.
“It is unthinkable that a leader of Mr Sata’s status can sink so low and begin to advocate gay rights,” Mr Zulu said.
He said he is not surprised that Mr Sata is advocating gay rights because he is ignorant.
Mr Zulu said Mr Sata’s ignorance stretches back to when a law was passed compelling all members of Parliament (MP) to participate in the constitution-making process.
He expelled his MPs who obeyed the law by attending the National Constitutional Conference.
“His ignorance went as far as appointing what he called acting MPs in the constituencies where some PF members decided to attend the NCC,” he said.
Mr Zulu said he does not know the law Mr Sata used to appoint acting MPs.
He said Mr Sata’s ignorance has been exposed by his support for homosexuals and lesbians on the pretext that there are laws in the country which recognise the vice.
Mr Zulu warned Zambians to choose their leaders wisely noting the country might end up endorsing a dictator.
Mr Zulu said the international community will not be keen on helping Zambia to remove a dictator from office.
“So, the freedom the country is experiencing should be guarded jealously by ensuring a dictator is not voted into power,” he said.
[ Zambia Daily Mail ]
Mr Sata has rights to support this movement because is homosexual. I mean is Gay! Fellow Zambian our general elections are around the corner lets think wisely.
What justice do you advocate for if you are discriminative? Be liberal and stop the injustice. Suppose there was a campaign against HIV people to be in government would be right? It starts from being intolerant of others. live and let others live! You must be fo*lsh to be insinuating that Sata is advocating for gay rights because that has been busted already
which schools did you fulls go to? you cant even interpret simple english. if you read Sata’s interview with the Danish journalists, there was nothing indicating that he supports gay rights….what a shame to have the entire nation being misled by a uni dropout by the name of Gregory Chifinyo…it sucks!!! let us debate real issues. civilised countries like USA recognise gays, who the hell are we not to anyway??? nafulwa nomba mwe!!!
Great leadership exhibited by the pf,the lure of millions of kwacha was not enough 2 betray the zambian people.While the intellectuals & the dishonest MMD benefited from hard earned tax payers money,what hypocrisy!!Truly pf is a party for the poor.Labelled kaponyas,uneducated,thugs.. but with the peoples interest at heart!!
Zanbians take heed of Mr Zulu’s timely warning against voting for a leader who is ignorant about the law whether it exists or not .Mr Zulu further warns against voting for a dictator because UN is slow to react to stop butchering citizens by its own leader like Gadafi,Mugabe. USA is quick but its citizens are tired of using their tax revenues to protect and defend countries against their dictator leaders when their own citizens chose dictators and glorify them.SATA/PF fall into the category of dictatorial leadership and government.And SATA’S close advisers they fall in tyhe category of Gadafi inner advisors and they are scary because they advise SATA to hate,deceive,corrupt(nalikwanda constituency incidence by oscar kabutu) insult and tribalism.
VIVA HH.
VIVA
Let talk about the shooting down of the constitution not this b ull shit.
Sata’z performance in the 2011 elections will not in any be swayed by the ZNBC/Chanda Chimba, Times of Zambia, Daily Mail or indeed so called (non?) governmental organizationz smear campaign. If anything, they are doing more good than harm.
New headline: “Daily Mail’s Constant Propaganda and Word-Twisting Irks Sensible People”
It is so sad that in a christian natian people continue telling lies even when the truth is known. Chifire is even quite now after seeing the whole statement which he originally edited to cheat and mislead zambians. The story was in LT and the post. People like SATA whether you MMD vuvuzelas and NGI like it or not MMD wont have it easy in 2011 ELECTIONS. SATA will give you a good run. I agree with #3 on the country sata was against the gays and homos in his statement. These NGI and MMD vuvuzelas must apologise for misleading Zambians including paramount Chief Chitimukulu.
Marabishi … mulesebanya ama NGOs.
I wonder what plannets you are from. That issue is gone. He’s made it clear to the normal Zambian that he believes in the rule of laws and not the rule of men. Sue him if you wish and give him more money over such. Mwenkumba mwe!!!
Is this the only case you have as a weapon to use in decampaigning him? Talk about real issues. There’s a shotage of essential drugs, condoms, acomodation, clean water, etc … in the country and you are busy talking about homosexuality. How many people are hitting each other from behind in the one or two night stands that you should concentrate on this during day time. Go to the night clubs and see for yourself. Prostitution is ever on the increase. Learn not be Governmental if you are to to be considered credible…
The Yakumbuyo saga!!!!!!!!!!! Not again!!!!!!! Lets just talk about the best man for Zambia to bring Real Change!
ba LT takuli news”? this is stale and outdated. lets discuss something else guys.
He is geting more popular everyday.Let them continue talking UNIP language.
I guess that what happens when you have a poor reading culture in the country. A simply thing such as the interview that President Sata give to the Dens which even a grade 2 student for the almost run down government schools that we have in this country can understand very well but am felling to understand why people who have even been to high learning Institutions can feel to understand the simply English be hide the interview. I think this MR. Zulu and those still talking about this issue should been taken back to learn more English.
#11, how can LT have News when all they do is cut and paste? As long as Times of zambia, daily mail, znbc, etc publish outdated stories, then LT will also cut those stories and paste them.
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THE PF GAY BIG PART SAYS MMD WE SHALL SEE U WHETHER U WILL MANAGE TO WIN THIS COMING ELECTION WHAT A PARTY.YO OLD MADALA 78 YRS WILL SOON BE UNDER THE TREE IN MBALA.PREPARE TO BUY HIM A FARM BCOZ HE SEEM NOT HAVE ANY,HE IS POOR SAYS KUNDA.
Ifwe nipali ba HH chabe not gay Sata pf party shame on you gogo we shall meet during elections.VIVA HHHHHHHH The only young man you ar our pride boss we ar even boosting because of you.African countries ar demonstrating because they need young leaders ed you wnt us to put a old madala lik sata ed lupia 78 yrs lik Tapiwa said not ine awe nakana.
what a useless movement sata has to support GAY noses,Gay in a Christian nation dont bring confusion in country sata pliz get out.
Whats wrong with these small NGO’s. What English syllabus did u people do not understand simple explanations.or is is that you have chosen to listen the lies and perception from behind your brain or do you smoke weed? give us a break. Whether you like it or not Sata is game
Mr Zulu is a joke….won’t waste time on his remarks….. Bane yes Zambia is a Christian nation with all due respect, but really we shouldn’t neither deny the fact that we do have gays pa Zed…. I am one person who is very much against advocating for gay rights pa Zed but whether we like it or not one of our generations will pass the law and it’s a question of time. The question is how intolerant are we as Zambians and to what extent do we tolerate and for how long. We claim to uphold our Christian values yet the Bible fore warmed us about gays in the last days again the question is, are we going refuse them/or kill them as they(gays) come our way or hold steadfast and come out victorious knowing we were warned…. Let each one judge himself, things will change and it’s sad yet its…
#17, Ulim/bwa sana.
this is getting tiresome, what are these so called NGOs say about the shootings in Mazabuka by the police, or the MMD violence at Garden house motel, or the dubious acquital of one FTJ Chiluba, or….
#3 chaona munzako chapita- Infact it has come to our knowledge that MMD used a famous Lusaka voice imitator on Chanda Chimba 3 programme to use his voice as it was Sata talking. How desparate can people get? Who is this Sata they talk about all day long? Who is this Sata that the MMD have spent billions of Kwacha to pay NGOs to discredit him. Who is this Sata that ZNBC/Multichoice Zambia have paid for a full programme to disparage him? Who is this Sata that the MMD had to retrieve some case that was committed 60 years ago in order to implicate him? Who is this Sata that the MMD had to centre the whole Consititution around him so as to bar him from standing for office in Zambia?
#22 please name the famous Lusaka voice imitator used as Sata? If not I doubt your sanity!
These NGOs say nothing about the real issues in Zambia (social issues) but concentrate on politics. Is the issue of gays going to be the only election issue? :-?
pa Zed dullness iletona nokutona, nto, nto, nto, muchinje, UBUTUTU BUBI
Sata has made himself clear on this issue, cant you read between the lines.Some people have their own interpretation and they think zambians will vote against Sata if they continue talking negative about an individual.When those in power call for a meeting they discredit Sata instead of telling the people what they will do for them if reelected.
A revolution can not be stopped but delayed.
VIVA SATA VIVA PF PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sata has made himself clear on this issue, cant you read between the lines.Some people have their own interpretation and they think zambians will vote against Sata if they continue talking negative about an him.When those in power call for a meeting(especially Uncle Bwezani,George Kunda,Roonie Shikapwasha and Dora Siliya) they discredit Sata instead of telling the people what they will do for them if re-elected.
A revolution can not be stopped but delayed.
VIVA SATA VIVA PF PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Sata has made himself clear on this issue, cant you read between the lines.Some people have their own interpretation and they think zambians will vote against Sata if they continue talking negative about an him.When those in power call for a meeting(especially Uncle Bwezani,George Kunda,Roonie Shikapwasha, former Rupia commentator Mike Mulongoti [now silent] and Dora Siliya) they discredit Sata instead of telling the people what they will do for them if re-elected.
A revolution can not be stopped but delayed.
VIVA SATA VIVA PF PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
you gay pf! If you dont like LT, dont even blog here. SATAN will not rule Zambia.
which clear did he made himself… That man is gay together with winter kabimba. SATA is finaly finnished. 2011 is the end of this serpent and devil minded individual who is only interested to see men kissing men, women fingering other women. SHAME on you Mr Yakumbuyo!!
Sata has made himself clear on this issue, cant you read between the lines.Some people have their own interpretation and they think zambians will vote against Sata if they continue talking negative about him.When those in power call for a meeting(especially Uncle Bwezani,George Kunda,Roonie Shikapwasha, former Rupia commentator Mike Mulongoti [now silent] and Dora Siliya) they discredit Sata instead of telling the people what they will do for them if re-elected.
A revolution can not be stopped but delayed.
VIVA SATA VIVA PF PABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
sorry for many postings on the same issue, the network is on and off.
PF stands for ……. Pwele Fwololo/:)
# 8 you are too funny! But why are we talking about this???????
Samson Zulu,
what do you want Sata to say, and how many times before it enters your thick matter? You MMD NGOs are always hibernating; and when you come back to life, you are either having press conferences or issuing press statements on matters which were settled while you were sleeping.
Stop diverting people’s attention from the current concerns!
Please LT, save us from these tribalists pretending to represent morality. The fact is that Homos are people and we as Christians have a duty to pray for them and not criminalize them. In any case Sata didn’t support them. Zulu should come out in open and campaign for his fellow easterner instead of hiding in an NGO.
Oh please…..
Sata’s interview was very clear. Global fimo, fimo is is another useless NGO.
Lets talk about serious issues, e.g how we are going to get our hard earned money spent on the new constit fimo, fimo, back.
Sata is becoming more and more popular
Am gay based in SA. The gay community in Zambia is large. Dont bury your heads in the sand and pretend gays dont exit in Zambia. Just accomodate them like what other developed countries have done.
These directionless NGOs are really nauseating. MMD has really run out of ideas on campaign issues. It’s Sata day in day out, & they are now confused that the coalition of the willing is busy recruiting people to support PF in areas where it is weak like Western Province & Eastern. This is a very tricky year for Movement for Mandrax Dealers (KK, 1990). They are really shameless, they called our rights utopia.
Be human, gays are people too. MMD has a serving minister who is gay. What have they said.
#23
PF (Priest Frank Could be you. Hasnt Sata denied this several times, but you have insisted. Iam here in Zambia and I know more than you out there. You know the man.
leave this alone. We have haed for ourselves from Ba Sata in the original interview. We need talk about something else. And the shoting in Garden was sad to read about the 7 years boy lost his life. we need some controls with these deadly weapons. May be better equiping of our officers should be looked into… thoughts please
Chizungu! Sata has explained, the complete video has been played and we all heard what he said.He talked more on Chinese than this GAY rubbish been talked about all the time! move on! That aint no story no more!
# 23 PF (Priest Frank), it is Ben Phiri, who did you expect, this is about Umo kumawa! #29 Change maker, refer to # 35 The Chosen One , you are devil incarnate with putried smoke of hatred for gay and sinnful people puffing from your ears.
The current concerns by the MMD, disrespected preachers like Rev. Masupa and NGOs like GLOBAL Justice Zambias’ Samson Zulu is to find money to refund the elected GRZ by Dec, 2011. Propaganda about homosexuality in Zambia will not feed Zambians, nor give them hospitals with labs, medicines and correct ratio of nurse/doctor to patients, schools with proper text books and motivated teachers, better roads to transport rural food produce to urban markets and a well trained police service who will not shoot citizens at will. VIVA SATA, VIVA PF, WE WILL!
WE ARE TIRED OF THIS MMD PROP.
It is shameful to see an organization spreading hatred. If you do a simple research you will find out that gays are people too. Just like you! There is no profit in demonizing a segment of our society for political reasons. In the meantime real issues are yet to be taken by those seeking political office. These issue of gays will need a long timescale to resolve. Even developed countries have not solved that one completely. For a country like Zambia to make it a political issue is pure stup¤idity in this time and age. Those people claiming to be Christians commit adultery, abuse their children, use the services of prostitutes, e.t.c. I do not see NGOs being vocal about many real issues like corruption in the government.
this post has been made in order to divert pipo’s attention from the failed constitution bill.to my fellow readers,the issue at hand is the wasted money at the NCC.
very impressive comments.its gud to know that zambians are very intelligent and cannot be swayed by outdated ,manipulated backward news
# 20 Uli chibwa sana iwe.
Imwe mwe bawelewele,imbulwa mano mwe nsamba,bamutunta bunga .Is this not the ka paper that published Sata’s disussion?
Ninshi akalimi kalamipita mwa?Okay,may you want us all to believe that Sata for sure said so,pakuti umfweko bwino …abo bene ba gay bushe tebantu,tali nabo nabakwata voters card apashalembwa ati GAY…GoGo gays ni pa bwato!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Another monkey just swaying in the trees!!
this is just cheap propaganda that has kept pipo debating at the expense of real issues.My fellow zambians its high time we sat down n looked at politics in the real not this kind of cheap politics that wont even put n exercise book on the desk of a child.
Ati muntu ngati ba mugwila chigololo amasekesa, afuna kukana ati sindine koma ukati uyangane iyi ni yonyamuka nacondom kwamene. Ha! ba George shuwa all that money wasted between you (MMD) and UPND still you insist to say its pf and not you
If this was not important why did Mr. Sata take so much time talking about it to the Danes? Was it to raise funds? It would not be topical if Sata had talked about important issues and not gays that would have been him setting the agenda. The agenda chose to set was that of homosexuality.
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#53, please be respectful. Not all black people are problems and not all white people are intelligent. That is an insult to all balck people! You must be a racist though you claim to have married a Zambian girl.
Sorry, I meant to respond at # 54, “Nutral man” who thinks black people are problems. He is a racist!.
You know what, these guys are hoping that if they harp a lie long enough it will be accepted as truth (like most belief systems that frown upon being questioned). But then again, this is the 21st Century where every man is King… We have so many sources to tap from that tabloids that are not awake to this reality will soon find themselves in obsolescence… Cizungu cinatuwomana.
This is MMD rubbish prop. So why should you hate gay people. Christianity says love one another. And you call yourself a christian nation!
sata is a gay..so is kabimba..most of the MPs rich in sata ‘s shadow cabinet got their cash from there …hahahaha
It needs to be clarified that nobody wants to bring gay activities to Zambia from somewhere else. Gays have always been there! They will always be there too. What is required is or what some people are asking us is to love each other. Yes, love gay people and other diverse people. Now what is wrong about that? Not so long ago we were selling each other to Arab slave traders as slaves. Christianity and trade was introduced by David Livingstone (et al) to help solve this barbaric trend. Slavery was stopped eventually and it was not by us, but by Europeans who made it illegal. Now we need Christianity to stop hatred against our own gay brothers and sisters. Give them help and support instead of shunning them. Some opportunistic politicians are using this issue for political millage
I am at loss as to where this debate or accusation on MCS is taking us for I do not see where he is in support of promoting homosexuality in the interview! This to me is similar to where Col Panji Kaunda makes a comment by making a comment using a conditional pre-qualifier “IF” and he is accused of advocating for violence! Once a law cites a vice it recognizes the existence of that vice whether permissible (legal) or not (illegal) and will spell out provisions that will deal with it! Do laws that recognize theft give legality to thieves? Or it is when someone reminds us that there are laws to deal with theft that we should say they are in support of thieves? No wonder to a large extent we get poor examination grades in the English language maybe we should conduct interviews in…
This site is run by black people please don’t insult our intelligence.Blogger banned from visiting LT
Let SATA and his GAY GANG supporters know that they will never rule Zambia.
Zambia is not a filthy place where ditastable things can be allowed, NO.
SATA, his POST, and the entire homo community must be told, theirs is the opposition for good.
They will continue to write false Journals from the POST square, and not state house because of their imoral inclination.
How can PF refuse to accept the bill on grounds that it does not support the homos?
This is unacceptable. Their leader SATA is now aging and the PF’s end is looming.
Shame on homos, what they dont understand is that refusing the bill does not change anything for them because the current constitution still does not permit their aborminable acts of homosexuality.
Homosexual offenders shall not rule Zed.
# 61 is gay. His ass is red because someone has been screwing him!! He thinks he is superior. It is surprising that he is boasting that he is superior and he is reading the paper written by black people. Take your gay ass somewhere.
#3, ba PF cadres, did it have to take you so long to admit that Mr Sata said pro-gay things? Now you are even boasting that “civilized” countries like USA recognise gayism, and who are we not to. Although the English grammar used by Mr Sata is broken, the statement was very simple and clear to everybody both educated and semi-literate. Mr Sata spoke in simple English, it was so clear that there is no need for any form of interpretation. Everyone in Zambia and Denmark heard and saw for himself in the media and on CDs, so what were PF cadres denying? All we wanted you to do is to admit that Sata supports gayism, then we pack and forget it, until we enter the polling booth that is.
#23 Deja Vu, “In fact it has come to our knowledge that MMD used a famous Lusaka voice imitator on Chanda Chimba 3 programme to use his voice as it was Sata talking”.
So are you saying that Mr Sata does not support gayism? You are certainly much more intelligent than most other PF cadres who are saying the opposite. Can you organise your colleagues and come up with a common position please? We in Denmark are anxiously looking forward to the “warm” relations with Zambians which Mr Sata pledged to promote.
The problem with PF is that they think civilisation means homosexuality. That is why their leader is promoting the gay confusion, its not a right – homosexuality is not a right. It is a confusion.
Their are people who have a chronic colonialism and are forced to believe that anything from the West is good because it is coming from a civilised country. Even when they are insulted by the westerner they clap their hands and rejoice the event. What a shame!!!
Mr. Samson Zulu, since you portray yourself as a very intelligent and educated being compared to Sata, I am wondering what you are still doing on your lolos instead of starting the prosecution of Sata since he broke the law, which you have so ‘well articulated’. What are you waiting for? Global Justice and Campaign Manager cannot fail to garner support for the suite. Even RB and Gerage Kunda can help you pursue this case. About acting MPs, go and seek guidance from the Speaker of National Assembly on how do deal with impersonation…Stop wasting our time Samson Zulu.
Thot this issue was dead? Wu is this zulu? Problem with my counsins is, they are always in the past neva ever with time.
when i was in zambia and after out of zambia i really supported sata but if thise is really what he said then he sucks and his brain is not working well. we need a leader not a follower. he should not be driven by western cultures. i am disappointed
LETS WAIT FOR THE DANNISH GOVEMENT. WILL HEAR THE TRUETH
Hommosexuality was,is and will always be there in Zambia,weather you like it or not.And its time the Gay people were given the rights to live just like any other Zambian,coz they are also career people and add up to the well being of that country.I am a full time supporter of Gay Rights and i feel we all deserve equal rights.If you feel you cant handle it then go somewere,to a place you ll not find Gay people.Gay people are everywere and you know it,you people with some education are the ones who are behaing so dull,shame on you