VICE-PRESIDENT George Kunda yesterday told Parliament that the homosexual pictures distributed by the MMD delegation in Northern province recently was meant to sensitize people on the illegality of Homosexuality in Zambia.
Mr Kunda said during the ‘Vice-President’s question time’ that a leader of an opposition party has been promoting homosexuality and urged all Zambians to reject this because Zambia is a Christian nation.
Mr Kunda said this in response to a question from Lukashya MP Elfreda Mwamba (PF) who wanted to know why an MMD delegation which recently visited Northern Province was distributing pictures of an “obscene nature” as it showed two men in a compromising situation.
The Vice-President said the reason the pictures were being circulated was to sensitise the people. He said the laws of Zambia do not support homosexuality, which is illegal.
Kunda also told Parliament that the MMD government will take the Constitution Bill back to Parliament soon after winning the 2011 tripartite elections. Mr Kunda said that the Draft Constitution rejected by Parliament has many good clauses when responding to Chongwe MP Sylvia Masebo (MMD), who wanted to know what would happen to the Constitution-making process after the rejection of the Mung’omba Draft.
“We will bring back the Constitution when we win elections this year. There are a number of good clauses that were lost in that document and we will make sure that we bring it back,” Mr Kunda said.
Mr Kunda further said that the newly created districts of Ikelenge and Mafinga would not have their own constituencies. He said the Mung’omba Draft, had it been adopted by Parliament would have provided for more constituencies to accommodate new districts.
He was answering a question from Zambezi West MP Charles Kakoma (UPND), who wanted to know whether the new districts would have their own Constituencies like all other districts.
[pullquote]“We will bring back the Constitution when we win elections this year. There are a number of good clauses that were lost in that document and we will make sure that we bring it back,” Mr Kunda said.[/pullquote]
“Some members of this House sabotaged the Constitution-making process by voting against the Draft Constitution as recommended by the National Constitutional Conference (NCC). We shot ourselves in the foot by rejecting that draft, and we lost a lot of new clauses including some that would have promoted women’s rights,” he said.
And Mr Kunda has reiterated that the kind of parallel vote tabulation (PVT) that some non-governmental organisations (NGOs) want to conduct during the forthcoming elections is illegal.
He, however, said that this does not stop political parties from collecting results as they come in as long as they do not release them to the public because doing so may mislead some people and cause chaos.
Mr Kunda was answering a question from Mandevu MP Jean Kapata (PF) who wanted the Vice-President to state Government’s position on PVT.
On roads, the Vice-President told Parliament that the money government is using to improve the infrastructure throughout the country has been budgeted for.
This was in response to a question from Luena MP Charles Milupi (ADD) who asked where Government is getting funding for road works.
Mr Kunda said the funding is perfectly legal, adding that supplementary budgets are requested for when actual allocations are exhausted.
Anyway nothing wrong with distributing these pictures because our judiciary in a case titled
Chansa Kabwela Vs State
The judiciary ruled that distributing compromising picture with the aim to sensitive the public does not amount to breaking the law.
So I have instructed my lawyers not to sue these MMD desperate dogs because the case is not winnable as there is a precedent already set in Law
But my other coleague has another take on this.
Haaaa,… here comes Kunda, you are still thinking of winning the elections. There is no chance for you to return as the ruling party but from the opposition. HH is taking over from you very soon. After all, you are in Central province, you are in a very big trouble man…….
Our research students say that let the people see the photos so that they’ll know that homosexuality is not part of our culture.
Kunda and his group did the same in western province. they distributed fliers aiming to dicredit people advocating for barotseland agreement.at the end of the day, nkoysa, mbundas, lambas and kwangwas whom we heard were being targeted to be expelled from western province made the numbers among those kunda arrested and tortured for supporting the agreement. Kunda’s propaganda will swallow him one day
George Kunda, are you completely backslidden from the faith bro? for what, the love of money and political power? Where is Christ in your life? Don’t lose your salvation for the sake of filthy gain!
Amen, we all have to face our maker one day and answer to what did you do with Christ? where is Christ in our lives?
I understand that Red lips is bi sexual that is why he was allowing distribution of those picture! That is also how he developed red lips!
Red Lips has shown innocent children images of what Gay men do and as lowly educated children(MMD’s fault) they will be inquisitive and may explore what the images are doing…Will they know the difference?
MMD is promoting Gay tendencies in children in N.P.
The red lipped snake kanshi is around.
From the look of things I think Dola and Red lips are both in the business of promoting homosexual in Zambia.When you look at Dola’s dressing what can you say about that? On red lip,I only hope that God will forgive him for bringing shame to this nation.Shame on you Red lips your days are numbered.
What has gone wrong with Kunda? Is this the same Zambian Lawyer I used to hear about? If Zambia is a Christian Nation, does distribution of porno related pictures agree with Biblical Principles?
RED LIP YOUR TIME IS UP NOW GAY OR LESBIAN IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE.WE ARE ALL GEARED UP FOR THE CHANGE AND OUR MAN SATA IS JUST STEPS AWAY FROM PLOT NUMBER 1
i agree with you #7
this is not a proper way to make a point…Christian Nation…hmmmm, in name only?
i used to believe these guys should be re elected…but this is beyond the pale..it’s sickening
they’re a danger to the nation…i now believe they should be booted out…enough! of the nonsense from what is he called again?..re… red lips…
what a government!
I think what people should understand is that when someone is sick for a long time like Kunda, there thinking capacity starts shrinking slowlly. So please don;t even listen from him. How can you distribute pictures to sensitise when at the sametime those pictures are targeted at discraditing other human beings? What kind of a Christian nation is Zambia? Which pictures are close to ponography between a woman giving birth and two men kissing each other? which is more sexual oriented image? Kunda is sick and sick and sick and sick!!!!!!!!!!!!
When that lady from THE POST sent you pictures of the woman giving birth outside UTH without the help of health officials ( because they were striking), you took her to court. Now it’s ok with you going around showing pictures of naked gay people. Chiwamina galu ka. These guys are crazy
Most Zambians especially my grandpa and grandma who cannot understand what gay or homosexual means, they have the right of information through photos.
# 16 –I dont agree with your opinion. A kiss is not always associated with sexual arousal. Takwaba. Kabwelas pictures were more of pono than these pictures of kissing. Many pipo kiss even their kids but TA BWIMA…..
Sorry guys, I meant # 13….
Lots of people are homophobic.
When you get right down to it, people are afraid of what is not familiar. If you’re grown up in a gay community, or unbiased home, you’re likely not going to be homophobic.
No one realizes that why they don’t like gay people is because they are scared of the unfamiliarity of them; but per say they had to live with them; they’d become pretty acceptant.
Thanks
Zambia should legalise gays and above all homosexuality anyway. Everyone has the right to love who they love. Why should being gay eliminate you from love? No, you can’t have a baby with this person, but you can adopt. They can teach their child about homophobia before he/she finds out she/he is different from others. In fact, I would rather have two gay dads that love each other to death then a mom and a dad that fight all of the time with each other and me.1
You can ask any gay man/woman how they feel about being gay… Some will say out casted, some will say they are proud but out casted, others will just be depressed and scared to come out due to being out casted. Society makes it seem as though being gay is wrong, when it is not wrong at all. Thanks
Chansa Kabwela from the post was taken to court for showing a woman giving birth at UTH Rb called phonograph so tell us what we should do to you for sending the immoral Dora to go and show the pornographic pictures to the people of Zambia Rb and your people your time is up just start parking and stop wasting our time
Here in Scotland In sum, the survey findings show that the proportion of British who currently see homosexuality as “wrong” ? a belief that was held by around 70% of the population as recently as 2005 ? has declined to about 40%. Conversely, the proportion of people who feel that homosexuality is appropriate and normal (“not wrong at all”) is now a slightly higher 45%. The remaining 15% of British have mixed feelings about the subject. When it comes to homosexuality, we are a nation divided.We all know we ( as I plan to live here) are theoretically superior to most if not all Africans both morally and, deed and eaily accepted ina ll forms of lives. Such twin findings on openness and trepidation should send a message to leaders who are positioned to bring people together. Thanks
Mwisho pliz,can you hear yourself talking,so you are telling everyone that you can go and naked yourself in front of your grandpa and grandma for them to see what you are made up of?
A lot of Zambians make make a mockery of us really. There is no reason why any rational adult would consider it ethically wrong. Morally, maybe, but morals are constructed by religion and politics and are inherently irrational – most of the time at least.
As if two consenting adults loving each other could be wrong, regardless of their gender – I never could grasp why Christians have such a big problem with this, but I assume it has something to do with their own discomfort with sexuality in general.
I think love is beautiful and there’s nothing unhealthy about responsible consenting adults loving each other. In fact, I personally feel it’s these backward zambian people that refuse to change, that are embarassing the country. Please learn and grow up!! Thanks
Would you support your child if they can to you and said they where f@#$ked in the ass by their friend? Would you say, “good job son did he have a big one?” So please just shut the f&*^k up if you have nothing to say apart from showing your primitivity of praising a country you will never belong to!
THANKS lol
Mushota and Mwisho you are insane grow up you two
pf’s favourite topic, eh? sorry no gay rights in zambia, therefore veep kunda is correct, no votes for pf.
Really Mr. VP? And which is closer to pornography between a mother giving birth and a picture of two people in a compromising situation kissing? Only people with sick minds like our President, RB, would think seeing a picture of woman giving birth is sexually arousing (which is usually the all aim of porno).
Given a chance, our sexually repressed VP and PRES would have no qualms burning homosexuals at the stake for some political mileage. It is a shame that govt officials who are supposed to be the custodians of our Constitution which purports to protect the rights of all citizens, gay or straight, to be in the forefront promoting hatred against a segment of the population they lead. They may not agree with homosexuality, but there is nothing “Christian” about HATE either!
Ba Kunda you are really finished stop exposing such to children, when will you grow up….stop taking everything personal nishani kanalesa…. PF will definitely sort you out and once out what will you do….Be wise bane
#25 ignorance is working on you…PF came out and denied having said they support gays….are you gay mune……stop using PF if you have no supporting facts…….
@3 Kazito : keep dreaming in tonga boy,all you Tonga tribalist can vote for HH, the whole of Zambia will other vote RB or Sata, no matter how you look at it your under 5 HH will never come into power. I am not saying a Tonga can’t rule Zambia in future it’s a welcome possibility but for now forget it as long as you in that tonga tribalist party led by tribal HH forget it mate
@19, 21 & 23 Mushota:
Don’t know if you are man or woman, after reading your rantings on this blog I see you need help. Last time you said you hate Zambian men, I see why? So being gay was acceptable in your household. Men were cleaning each other with their thingys instead of toilet tissue in short you are a product of shit diggers. The shame of it oh the shame of it
When unip was loosing grip on power they resorted to all sorts of tricks, among them telling us that if mmd won the elections there would be civil war in zambia. znbc tv carried features of war ravaged countries to discourage the people from changing government. This did not help unip in any way, they still lost the elections to mmd. Mmd has outlived its usefulness and is irrelevant to zambian politiicts today. Change is coming don’t burry your heads in sand like an ostrich. People are generally fed up with mmd lies and are looking for other people to run the affairs of our country.Even if you tell us that the world will come to an end we will still vote mmd out.Even if you give us k20bn each, you are still going out. You are not going to change anything. Its PF and Sata this time .
MUSHOTA MUST BE GAY……….
@16, MWISHO:
So the President’s “Missile Launcher” stood up when he saw the pics of a mother giving birth? Since, by your “standards”, in Kabwela’s case the pics were pornographic. If your ‘test’ of what is porn is to see if it causes an ERECTION, you are really in some deep sh!t, my brother.
Yes people kiss their children without any sexual intentions involved. The same way people can look at a pic of a woman giving birth without getting sexually aroused. That is why YOUR and RB’s cries about pornography in Kabwela’s, and not in this case, one are PHONY! You are only claiming the distribution of “GAY PORN” by your Dora “the Plump” to be none of the sort because you think this issue politically advantages MMD—that is the only reason and everybody knows it!!!!
Rb can donate his heart it won’t help him win elections. Kaunda gave us free mealie meal coupons, increased salaries for all zambian workers , it didn’t help unip win elections. you can call Mr. Sata all sorts of names under the sun, people are not listening to mmd any more. Your are simply wasting your time. Dissolve parley we go for elections and see how angry people are with mmd. You will be luck to win have an mp in parley. You can’t fool all the people all the time. Even if mmd gives us k20bn each you are definately going out.
Ok now i know why this guy’s lips are red,those people suffering from diarrhea usually have their pamatako turn red.In this case,george suffers from verbal diarrhea thus his lips turning red.
@Chinyota or whatever you call yourself,what kind of philosophy did you learn if any that explains morals as you did? Now i see why you are so UGLY and couldnt find decent Zambian men,coz you have no moral fiber in you.Only desperate white guys would even go for you coz again you are so UGLY and stu-pit
Would you distribute pornographic pictures to sensitize pipo abot the illegality or PORN? Come on. Lopsidded thinking disgracing UNZA & Zambia. You can do better than this. No one has monopoly of wisdom. Am just a guy and am sad about the hundreds of mistakes i see. Find me, we discuss
The ones distributing the pictures on homosexuality are the actual promoters of this vice. Howelse do spread a bad act with all the vigor MMD is doing it! MMD and Kunda have so much interest in the pictures they are corrupting the morals of poor voters. If the MMD does not support homosexuality why are they busy preaching about it and distributing those pictures to even our chiefs? This country has go to the DOGS! If you hate something simply ignore it. SATA they have been accusing and his PF are busy campaigning raising real issues as to why MMD/RB should be voted out but them its mainly about black propaganda which unfortunately for them the people have ignored completely.
Kunda is funny! He is justifying promotion of homosexuality by his Ministers who are busy distributing these immoral pictures.
Kolwe on the loose
Should we also start distributing, porn picture as to sensitize the public about how illegal or bad porn is?
Mr Vice president learn to be objective when responding to questions, dont just blubber whatever the viruses in your head are telling you to say. Does politics in Zambia have a disease where everything educated person becomes useless once they become join the ruling party?
Kunda ia an A@$!! His low caliber of thinking really shocks me n meks me sick!
If U want PF cadres and MUSHOTA to express their excellent views..just bring up their hottest and favorite topic HOMO fimofimo…. they like it so much such that we as the Anti-corruption team get extremely perplexed..no wonder they want to legalize it in Zambia when they get into power but Alas they ll never as we r winning with a landslide victory,,i repeat landslide victory….Mr VP continue sensitizing people of zambia on homo activitz as we
consider it a Taboo in a christian Nation like zambia…theze homos lesbian kaponyaz dont know what they r saying as they r gud at critisizn n passing insults..VIVA pro sustainable development MMD…MUSHOTA=PF cadres n followers,,shame.
So MMD were distributing porno photos to innocent people , children as well, eeeeesh! nomushishi wayenda, yaba!!!!!!!, KK where are you? Zambia yaonaika. What ever reason MMD has for such a humiliating exercise, its wrong, they deserve to be condemned, what a cheap way of canvassing for votes, ata!!!!! shit!!!!!
Well, this is how the holocaust against the Jews started and it spread to 6 million gassed to death for doing nothing wrong other than being Jews. Kunda should realise that we know that he has for long been promoting illegalities in Zambia. Time will come for him to account for all his monkey machinations. And had I been him, I will quit this crusade of his against homosexuals. He should learn from Dick Cheney who led the same campaign again homosexuals only for his daughter to turn out hardcore lesbian. For Kunda, he should not be surprised if people start a campaign against HIV-AIDS slimmers in government. We all know he is campaigning for a state funeral, he was envious of Levy, satana iwe!
Well you cannot separate homosexuality today from the King Snake who first brought it up even when noone wanted to hear his views on it. Pictures or no pictures Zambians today view PF as a pro gay/lesbian party. On top of that PF is associated with hooliganism, cadres of low calibre, dictatorship, and devoid of coherent ideas on how to develop a country – again thanks to the man at the helm. Most Zambian voters are wise. They will never give power to PF!!!
Mushota. is that really you saying all that crap or its your racist homo husband telling you all that nonsense aimed at demeaning your sorry inferior ash hole.
This man needs to be disbared and UNZA should take back their degree since he is showing very poor judgement. Spreading hatred and contaminating innocent minds, just because you want to stay in power. People want EDUCATION, Health, Employment and you take to them porn instead. What a bunch of losers!
dora siliya is excited about distributing this because she is re living her time when she was having it with dogs in makeni. No wonder she can not have a man
After ruling for 20 years the best strategy this party can find is acussed their opponents of being gay!! Dick Chaney did the same thing and his daughter turned out to be a lesbian. This is like a broken record (LP) playing out from one country to another, especially when people have no real ideas on how to move forward. Leave the harmless gay people out of your campaigns and run on real issues. May the best men and women win!!
zedians talk too much thats the problem,, no wonder we don’t get things done right..
Mr Willa Mun’gomba should protest at his name being associated with the failed George Kunda draft constitution. Secondly, Kunda should stop talking about Christianity as he is not a Christian by lying about who is promoting homosexiallity.
Let Kunda talk about his HIV/AIDS status and how he aquired it period. It will help Zambians stay away from casual sex if they aquired it that way and not blood transfusion. Ba Kunda ni sex.
“The Vice-President said the reason the pictures were being circulated was to sensitise the people.” Sensitise or advertise homosexuality? Do you distribute porn to sensitise people against it? Do you show sexual molestation of kids to sensitise people? Ba VP your reasoning always baffles.
Kunda is a bottom for sure. He enjoys being dominated
if mmd has development to show how they have worked why are they using character asassination as a campaign method.
answer me you are educated and suporting mmd and rb
What christian national is zambia if its leaders talking about zambia been a christian country are the one who behaves like prostitutes and thieves.e.g one day i was with my wife at pick n pay getting some things for home when we saw Dora Siliya seated with a certain man at the coffee shop i can say naked,she was in a mini such that her thighs were showing even her pant nika you will see it,imagine such are leaders we have and what picture was it panting and then she is going round zambia distributing those photos and the likes kunda supporting lets find some credible issues to campagn with,and what does the bible say about a leader to go with the description of a leader by the bible many of you are out please lets lead by example,pray to God that your concious should be alive .
ok so mushota is in scotland. interesting!!!
The bottom line is that this Homo thing is really working against PF. Sata seems to be shooting himself in the foot every time he takes a step. This whole gay thing started with PF and if PF was confident of winning, there was no need to support gays for money. MMD are merely capitalising on it just like how Sata capitalised on RB marrying a woman 40 years younger than him and how FTJ capitalized on how Sata has fathered two illigitimate children whilst maintaining a secret 2nd wife in Ndola. This is politics! If you cant stand the heat, do like Donald Trump and give up!
BTW: Sata is on record having said he recognizes gay people. He is on both radio and television record supporting gay rights. This is of his own making. How can he turn around today and say he does not support gays? He must lead by example and not by cheating people.
In Zambia we live in denial believing that gays are not amongst us. This helps us to teach our children that gayism is wrong and should not be tolerated. We enjoy living in denial because it helps us to discourage the scourge. We like it that way and we keep reading about Lot in the bible so that we remember what happened the last time gays were being entertained. We love our value system and you may think we are primitive, but we are quite happy being heterosexual.
We don’t need gays in Zambia. We have enough women!
GK is on track here and his responses are very clear and fair! Lets respect him. He is our VP whether we like it or not. Similarly, you are who you are whether we like you or not. But we will respect you as long as you respect us back. Lets behave ourselves here please!
Is ba Kunda telling us that it is legal to have obscene materials? I have read that some people have been fined/jailed for possessing porno material.
it was not porno, you guys do you know what porno is? Ha seen the photos you are talking about? Ta mwishibe ifyo mulelanda, mulandalanda fye.
@ No.55
If a man sins against another,God can forgive but if a man sins against the holy spirit,who can Intercede for him? You should think of what you call yourself on this blog.Surely,how can you call urself Jesus frick.You need to earnestly repent and ask for forgiveness.God Bless You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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are the fellas who were kissing each other in the picture going to be arrested for practising homosexuality?