HOME Affairs Minister Kennedy Sakeni has instructed the police command to stop expelling female police recruits who fall pregnant during training.
And Mr Sakani has said President Michael Sata and his Government attach great importance to the welfare of the Zambia Police Service and are committed to addressing the various challenges officers face to boost morale and service delivery.
Speaking when he officiated at a pass-out parade of 490 police recruits at Lilayi Police Training College in Lusaka yesterday, Mr Sakaeni said the police command should stop expelling female police recruits from training after falling pregnant. He said expelling female recruits finding themselves in such a predicament was unfair because some of their male counterparts who impregnated females were still allowed to continue with their training.
Mr Sakeni was reacting to revelations by police divisional commander Chola Katanga that 10 recruits who were supposed to be among the graduates yesterday were expelled for gross violation of college standing orders for trainees ranging from falling pregnant while on the course and being away without leave. He said Zambia had joined the rest of the world in commemorating 16 days of gender activism and, therefore, it was saddening and unfair to learn that female trainees were expelled for falling pregnant.
“Instead of expelling them, they should just go on leave for 24 months. We must be fair, unless there were other offences,” he said. And Mr Sakeni said President Michael Sata’s Government was aware of the various problems the police service was encountering.
He said in a bid to address the challenges the police faced, Government had committed sufficient resources in the 2012 National Budget to be used in the construction of police camps and stations.
[Times of Zambia]
Good reasoning Mr minster.We know that the recruits in most cases are actually victims especially in such places from their instructors…..
It seems they are training them in EVERYTHING!
I agree with # 1
I don’t want to be pregnant until I am 35-40 But I sympathies with the girls
Arrest the people that make them pregnant, especially if they are coerced
I stick with Nick, He gives me all I need and we plant to start a family in 10 years when I am 37
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bring your ka nick to zambia so that a proper well trained zambian fwenkulas for him.trust me you will go back alone.
Why should any of the consenting horny adults be arrested? Since when did extra/pre-marital consensual adult sex become illegal? Immoral yes but when we begin to think every pregnant woman is a victim, then I think we have lot our sanity ba Mushota pleeaaaaziiii. Impregnation past 16+ years of a girl is not illegal unless their is rape. Im sure all those police college women are above 18???
Ka Mushota naiwe!!!!
Mushota congratulation with Nick ya mu Irish pub uko ku Glasgow. But dear, I am sure if that Nick (niihik) was police instructor, you will be..ok.
awe ba honourable you will just encourage ma recruit kuchindana live. The best is to send away both. that way olo niyobela they will all condomise i know no single adult can ever abstain completetly
I thought Mushota was in between 18 and 25 years. But sometimes her comment are so bad that u may think she in that age group. You 37 which is quiet a good age for proper manners for people regarless of the race.
I think change for the better, sometimes you give very points.
I am 27 In 10 years I shall be 37. Grow up no 8 I was born in 1983
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Mushota you seem to have all the time in the world to say something on what is happening in Zambia and if you are so comfortable with your Nick why do you bother about mother Zed when you dont have even plans to go to Zed…..The best you can do young lady is just keep quite and just where do you find time anyway your Nick must be having a rough time cause you seem to spend all your time on lusaka times……WAKE UP AND BE REALLY STOP LIVING IN A WORLD OF YOUR OWN AS YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE ABROAD SILLY WOMAN:d
Good decision bwana minister.Even Mukuka Nkoloso the late indigenous zambian astronaut agreed to take a pregnant woman and a cat with him to the moon.It is a pity that mission fell through ngatwalipanga ishina.
Ba honourable inasmuch as u care for tho girls the 24 months for leave will be too much the training goes for 12 months they should realise that its amilitary college and pa NIPA…..that will make them lazy and incompitent with the work……at last u start condemning the poor performance of the police…..Honorable I don’t support that girls should know why they joined and what really they want….
Mushota, let me do you a favour, medical findings show it is well-known that older women have a higher chance of having a baby with a genetic abnormality, such as Down’s syndrome, Edwards’ syndrome or Patau’s syndrome. Figures for England and Wales show that your chance of having a baby with a genetic abnormality rises from 1 in 500 between the ages of 35-39, to 1 in 250 between 40-44, up to approximately 1 in 70 if you are 45 or over.
There is another small but serious risk to the babies of more mature mothers. More babies die in the uterus right at the end of pregnancy in mothers aged over 40.
Just for your information!
#9 If you were born in 1983 you should be 28 this year…usually educated people like you with your CIMA, ACCA and MBA soon PHD as you love to put it should understand that we round off age to the following factor number…so we always remember, with no effort (deeper thinking) to say something like,” i was born in 83 and am turning 28 in December (if one hasnt turned)” But its common when one is lying about age to forget to tally the ‘year of birth’ with the age mentioned…but Mushota you are who you are…Its long over due for our sisters to be treated equally in just about all institutions…well done Mr Minister.
Bushe Mushota alibafye bwino mumano. Her(his?) contributions are always extreme!! Well done Minister. Its unfair to expel trainees whne they are adults not school kids. Even school kids are allowed to go back. Can you imagine being expelled from Unza because you are pregnant? Thats archaic!!
Good point Mr Minister. Don’t they do the same to pregnant school girls?
24 months is ok – 9 months pregnancy, 12 months nursing the baby and 3 months to prepare for come back – physically and mentally.
I just hope those police men marry them in the end.
#4 Mushota “Arrest the people that make them pregnant, especially if they are coerced ”
Cracked my ribs! Arrest abalume kabili? LOL
Good decision to keep them. But 24 months leave is too long. If teachers can get only 3 months maternity leave, why should they get 24 months? They need to get back to work. That’s tax payers money. Unless it’s unpaid leave.
Don’t expell pregnant recruits, just increase their numbers!
Kamushota nikasilu koendelela. How does one wait till after 10 years. 27 maybe good for you to start breast feeding. Whats Nick up to kulekelela kamunthu like that. Just visit us here pazed and we shall make sure that you papa in arrears. You should have started producing the seeds of Nick at 16 kamambala iwe.
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LIATO AT WOODLANDS POLICE STATION RIGHT NOW
EXCUSE ME PLIZ. Police training is rigorous, phisical, mantal, whats the busines of a girl over 18 allowing herself to be made pregnant?! Police training unlike college is wholly funded through tax payers’ money. Why should I pay my tax twice for the same girl to train as policewoman while there are many decnt girls out there who would manage the 9 months wothout allowing themselves to be made pregnant! Unless you say they are raped and these are supposed to be tarining as law enforcers! Even in other countries it doesnt happen that way bane sure, tuleyakwisa ifintu mulesuminishya.! GOD BLESS ZAMBIA
Sorry I meant mental!
There is no sense in what the minister is saying. How does a pregnant woman do her strenuous training without causing harm to her health or of the baby growing in her womb?
The best is to get the sexually active female recruits some preventive measures for the duration of their training.
Iwe Gundix, the minister said they should go on 24 months leave. What’s wrong with you? Selective myopia?
Iwe Gundix, the minister said they should go on 24 months leave. What’s wrong with you? Selective myopia?
Just because they are training to be cops should they cease to have a normal adult life? How old are you?
Where have you ever seen a recruit going on Maternity leave? thats why she is a recruit, she has to wait until her time comes to get legally married and not chigororo.
Dont encourage recruits to engage in sex at training by according them the priviledge of maternity leave. it has never been heard of ever since the police or army was established in Zambia, let alone security guards, i will accept and understand.
Wingo master, I dont know where upi live, but in many European countries (the system you have copied in the first place) it is normal that recruits go on maternity leave.
Mushota, you are a terrible utopian. Your reasoning is not earthly: you seem to flourish in a world of your own where only you and your girl and your food live.Whatever education you have is not helpfol to mankind.zip up yourself.
Military inclined professions hinge on orders and high level discipline.And they know no other answer apart from Yes.I feel it is not right to employ logic of politics in the polce or the army or they will be headed for ruin; it means a lot of things will have to be reversed in the police and the army.
Good move..MINISTER. except iam wondering were the time to make one fall pregnant comes from coz most of the time these guys are doing chilailai. so howz is this? But N.y.e.l.e. Kuli mweilili
When will women stop crying “wolf…wolf”???! @1 Ba Zambia… each time a woman falls pregnant, even when she is 30 years old, she was done against her will??? Of course they have to be reinstated after giving birth as this is a govt policy even at primary schools so why not police college???? BUT plz remove the victim mentality- we have femidom, condoms, pills, etc and if sex was done against their will they know exactly where to report. You talk as though women dont have sexual feelings that they proactively pursue to satisfy????
It’s good that the government’s step taken has been long over due.Because their male counterparts,despite them being involved,will never suffer the consequencies of being pregnant and then to be expelled.
#13 Kolesheni: your advice to Mushota is backed by scientific facts. Infact it well known that he safest ages for wome to bear children is up to 35 years as the critical limit. Beyong that age, complications such as one alluded to by Kolesheni and what nutritionally is is called martenal syndromes becomes imminent if a woman conceives at ages beyond 35. Morover failure to thrive with severe growth retardation, unresponsiveness to the environment, depression, retarded mental and emotional development, and behavioral problems resulting from loss, so mushota, visit the Obstetricians (medical specialty dealing with the care of all women’s reproductive tracts) and their children during pregnancy (prenatal period), childbirth and the postnatal period. Your plans are suicidal “
@ WINGO MASTER: Wingo master, I dont know where u live, but in many European countries (the system you have copied in the first place) it is normal that recruits go on maternity leave. Your logic of saying it has never happened before therefore it is wrong is illogical and nonsensical. If you gave some other argument maybe. You were not there before you were born. Does that mean you shouldnt exist? Think with your logic,not your emotions. Kolesheni, #13, gives a sound biologicak argument which I agree with. On the social level, these are adults who have the same feelings you have, and are entitled to the same social interaction you wish for. On the legal level, laws which seem to be biased or out-dated are constantly being changed. Dont punish them for being human.
@Joseph P: I agree that millitary and security professions call for high level discipline that should not be governed by the logic of political gambling. I however think that having sex and getting pregnant during free time does not compromise professional discipline and ethics. It is preferable that they graduate in the stipulated time I guess also in terms of logistics, but I believe it is a human right they should be afforded.
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