UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema has challenged President Michael Sata to feature on a live television debate with him on the merits and demerits of subsidies on essential commodities.
Mr. Hichilema said a debate with President Sata would help settle the debate on the removal of subsidies.
“I want him to face me on national TV and radio and we debate this issue conclusively. They cannot continue cheating people that this subsidy removal was meant to benefit the poor people. This is part of the lies,” Mr. Hichilema said.
He told a media briefing in Lusaka today that the UPND leadership is ready to debate the issue with other PF leaders.
“We want Mr. Kabimba to square it off with Mr. Kapita or with Dr. Banda here and see who will convince the Zambians,” Mr. Hichilema said.
He observed that the Ministers and their Deputies who have been dispatched across the country to explain the issue of subsidies are gobbling millions of Kwacha.
Mr. Hichilema maintained that subsidies are a permanent fixture of any economy world over.
“Subsidies are a necessary cost. They help repair the distortions that are inherent in any economy. There are always people that cannot just be employed due to factors such as disabilities and those people need to be helped through subsidies.”
He added, “I lived in the UK myself, I worked and studied in Birmingham and London and the poor people there get unemployment benefits. These things are everywhere.”
Meanwhile, Mr. Hichilema has confirmed that nine UPND members died in a road traffic accident at Kavaramanja near Feira last evening.
He said the party is touched by the loss of lives and extended condolences to the families of the dead members.
The UPND press briefing also observed a meeting of silence in honour of the deceased.
HH, The subsidies are gone, Let’s move on.
Zambians tend to be lazy , they want everything easy and free. They want to sponge off relatives and expect handouts all the time. They want to be dependents to the point where 30 year olds call themselves youths. Are you ***** me? Get a job!
Teacher: HH will be president of Zambia. What tense is that ?
Pupil: Future Impossible Tense
Teacher: Correct, 100 marks.
Failures of Sata and PF
1. Failure to articulate a vision of economic advancement that people can rally behind.
2. Failure to stop corruption, instead they have perpetuated it by siding with thieves like Mumembe and Nchito and victimizing decent Zambian Judges.
3. Failure to promote democracy and freedom of speech by antagonizing those with opposing views. The Police has become an arm of the PF (The party and its police).
4. Failure to unite Zambians by promoting Bemba tribalism in all spheres of life.. from the creation of so called muchinga to the breaking of districts dominated by other tribes….. Continued!!
It looks like HH is lost for strategy. I am actually sure that he knows and understands what the government is trying to do. But he knows that playing to the gallery is what will keep him at his tangent trajectory, in the name of OPPOSITION. This is pandering to the whims of the feeble minded and the gullible/
My friend HH, the UK government can afford the luxury of paying loafers and all welfare payments because their economy is already large, they are developed, their infrastructure is tip top ALREADY. We do not have that privilege yet. We lack basics to enable us live in comfort badala….. Mmm, HH be real naiwe…
5. Failure to create a lean and efficient government. Instead PF has the largest government on the continent of Africa. Monies are wasted in running this machine in which ministers get allowances for cell phones, houses, shopping in the USA etc.
Cabinet reshuffles have continued as expected.
6. Perpetual Bye elections to waste tax payers monies
7. Lusaka continues to be the dirtiest and the most unhealthy city to loiter in across the globe. Lumumba road and urinating in public is the norm rather than the abnormal.
8. Kabovas and Kaponyas intimidate the whole country, decenting voices are under threat of being clobered, this has become the new Zambia. continued….
If you cannot even have rallies simultaneously in one township why should you even think of live television debates? Stones, bottles, knives, pangas, punches etc will fly in every direction. Folks let’s admit we’ve got work to do to develop the level of our politics first. There’s so much illiteracy, thuggery and intolerance in our politics that your party can’t even accept you if you have a friend from the opposition!
9. The agriculture policy (and the luck thereof) is a great failure of the PF. The gains that Zambia made under Mwanawasa and Mundia Sikatana are lost.
10. Presidential powers continue to be excessive. Sata continues to be a Ruler and not a Leader. He rules by decrees and orders and he thinks he can achieve development this way. He instills fear in his subordinates like he did when he minister at health were he was successful. Many of his sympathizers follow him because of this but they do not realize that be a leader in a free country requires a different skill set.
11. Sata surrounds his self with throwbacks from the Kafupi regime like Emmanuel Mwamba and Katele Kalumba and others demonstrating once again that he and Chiluba were actually partners in their crimes against Zambia. cont…
You are not at the same level as the republican president to even suggest who debates with who. you are way way below that and please stop cheating the people.
Nappy rash politics must stop
You are full of yourself.
Okey this is just laughable by some people, why are you shielding the old man? We all know if this debate was to happen it will be the biggest embarrassment ever faced by a president. Let him debate, we need debates like this in order to tell the mental capacity of our leaders. He will just end up talking about bald headed people.
Dear HH,
I hope you know Mr Henry Ford was not educated to engange in academic debate. But at the press of a button he could summon the right expertise to draw the plan you want. Mr Sata has a nation to run keep your knowledge to the time you will become president. Thanks for your ignorance, at least try dreaming your future
my presido is too busy for this under 5. The whole lot of HE MCS debating with a leader of kantemba party! a party of failures and rejects!!
but this is the guy who always used to challenge levy mwanawasa to a debate,mwatampa shani ukulamufisa. The man is dumb,he even recollects how miles sampa was bruised by muhabi lungu.he can’t show up
Whether HH is under 5 atleast he is an early mature variety of a Zambian than an over 75 Ukwa who has remained inmature at his age. Pf F0000ls dont take Zambians for granted! If Zambians voted for Pf in 2011 that does not grant you to stop listening to Zambians & think that you continue being in power. How can your budget survive with a huge cabinet, many induced by elections?
but ulichisushi iwe
Nonsense ! Why just subsidies you kolwekombwa ? Why not about other issues too ? Hakaivotela Humwine indeed.
ANOTHER MIS BY HH AND HIS CAMP.
THE BATTLE IS NOT WON ON CAMERA. THE BATTLE IS WON BY GOING DOWN TO THE VILLAGES WHERE THE POOR PEOPLE LIVE AND EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT THE REMOVAL OF SIBSIDIES MEAN. THERE YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES OF THE REMOVAL OF SUBSIDIES IN SIMPLE, EASY-TO-UNDERSTAND LANGUAGE. THESE POOR PEOPLE ARE IN THE MAJORITY AND ARE THE VOTERS. THE SAME POOR PEOPLE DO NOT WATCH THE TV THAT YOU WANT TO INSIST ON. THE PEOPLE WHO WATCH TV ARE ABLE TO SURVIVE WITHOUT THOSE SUBSIDIES. THEY DO UNDERSTAND WHAT SUBSIDIES MEAN AND YOU WILL NOT ADD ANYTHING NEW TO WHAT THEY ALREADY KNOW. MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO WATCH TV DONT EVEM VOTE BECAUSE OF THE MESS THEY SEE ON THE POLITICA MARKET.
SO MR HH BE STRATEGIC. PF HAS GONE TO EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHO MATTER.
Just to add on that we have many educated fools and HH is no exceptional. He might boast of having studied and lived in UK, so what. This is Africa and he cannot think like a European because his African instincts will not allow him and still remains pure African, his brain will remain African. Subsidies have been removed and what is the debate is requesting with Sata for, and for whose interest.
This is where am basing my point that one can be be well educated but lacks wisdom. How can HH sink so low to think in that way honestly. Appearing on media everyday does not signify popularity but rather exposing foolishness.
PPC – Botswana
If he goes to meet the people to explain he will be arrested for unlawful assembly
Utter nansense how can a sitting head of state be debating with an opposition leader. This vile brainless under5 **** thinks President Obama can agree to debate with a leader of the Republican party halfway in his term for what?
PS. Under 5 use your money to travel the world so that you are exposed upstairs.
brain yalishima ba HH
UPND – the deaf leading the blind to a cliff edge.
The “deaf” and “Blind” bit sensitive words there, we live in communities whr som of our brothers and sis are that. Why use their condition to explain your point..
I am not sure whether this man understands what he is talking about. It looks he has no idea what he is talking about and people think he can be a president. Here is the mandate of the responsible Minsitry for what he thinks should be happening in Zambia. Mandate
The specific mandate of the Ministry includes the following subjects:
Community Development; Policy Disabilities Affairs Policy;NGO Policy; Social Welfare Policy; Non-Formal Education and Skills Training; Community Development Training; Women’s Development; Supporting Self-Help Initiatives; Juvenile Correctional Services; Probational Services; Rehabilitation of Persons with Disabilities; Social Safety-Nets; Child Welfare Services; Welfare Service and Counselling Organisations; Adoption Services Food Programme Management Group…
Ministry of Community Development, Mother and Child Health, Zambia is the responsible Minstry for what HH is talking about. Now, when HH misses the point of subsidies, then noow i understand why UPND has no vision. It looks like this man is so closed in his own balangombe closet that he is failing to know how to run a government. Ati debate as if it is a debating club at secondary school. This is a nation bwana.
Ba HH, we all know the subsidies were not sustainable. What we should worry about is how the saved resources will be used.
exactly.
hh must be serius now sata lied about most of the politcal lies there is,leaving hh with little option but to tell us the bitter truth.subisides are gone baba!
HH Sorry. We wont eat your education and what you know. Be mature in your tactics. Your challenge is childlike.
And commercial breaks every after 15 minutes to give time to His Excellence Tata Wa BUFI to empty the urine bag.
There’s nothing funny about any medical condition. Pray that you will be healthy all your life because Karma is bi.tc.h.
Exactly – Osadabwa- why the President cannot stoop low and debate with HH, you chaps are always insulting and never use your brains, you can not face issues all you do is insult, umusalula na ma boshi and you expect any sane Zambian to side with you.
I think HH is more mature than politicians who just rant all the time. And there is nothing wrong with debating subsidies. This is a democracy. Moreover, the PF have never given convincing reasons for removing subsidies.
The chaps have got about 100 ministers who all receive free fuel plus other extravagant allowances, Sata’s salary is 100% of what) was taking. So whatever will be saved will go towards the maintaining governt officials.
PF should have cut down the number of ministers first and your salaries and allowances!
Basop ka ndobo stop changing user names.
@Zack, look at the number of maggots who have voted you down. One thing I have noticed about PF cadres is that they get annoyed when faced with rational analysis!
I now prove that pf does not understand micro and macro economics.That is why pf is running the economy like this.No direction for our country economically.
Although I do not support hh as the president for zambia.But he is speaking the way economics work.Giving the true effects of subsidies at micro level and should tricle down to the common man in the shant,typical villager,jobless and extra.
Can you give me numbers of how many people are suffering in the shanty compounds and lets compare with the many Zambians who have no water in the remotest parts of Zambia?? We should not oversimplify things gents, these subsidies have for a long time benefited the big guns of Zambia, in your right frame of mind how can you justify subsidizing fuel for the foreign owned mines?? and then subsidizing millers. We should not hide in the name of economics we’ve all been to school
Phili Chali Musonda. The UK government does not subsidize the price of fuel, gas, bread, Irish potatoes, etc as HH is trying to claim here. Those that have access to those unemployment benefits are ‘ideally’ people who can not find work due to their prevailing circumstances. So ba HH do not even go that route because you will just be embarrassed. Even the UK government has waken up and implemented a massive overhaul of the benefit system because it was being abused.
Have campaigns started for 2016? HH is now dreaming!
Mediocrity
Can someone tell me the difference between this statement by HH calling for a debate and the statement by Dr Mumba pastor asking the president to resign if he does not return the subsidies?? You see country men and women how our 2 opposition presidents are going astray, they seem to always be dreaming of things that cant happen. This is why 2016 will be but just a dream for my 2 uncles Mumba and HH
Bafikala tabeletontonkanya bwino.
I know Sata is a coward & lacks logic he cant face HH in a live dabate!
Waba ibotolo
@17 nyanti……..hung on a minute, who has no logic; the one who has failed to convince intelligent zambians to vote for him, or the one who conviced intelligent zambians to vote him into state house?????
Just by looking at several comments here you can understand why Zambia is led by a mediocre leader like Sata.
This guy you’re calling Under 5 has shown maturity by calling for a live debate with the President,he hasn’t called for people to go to the streets,he wants to discuss the matter in detail and all some dull chaps can say is ”Sata cannot debate with Under 5” so who can Sata debate with ?Satan the devil? No,he needs to debate with opposition leaders especially intelligent ones like HH and Chipimo Jnr who have more knowledge on such matters not other leaders who are full of cheap rhetoric.
HH has a valid point,let’s learn to discuss things that’s the only way we’ll progress,don’t just accept decisions of the govt without weighing all factors..
Sense
ON THE CONTRARY, MEDIOCRITY IS VIVIDLY SEEN IN HH BECAUSE HE CANNOT SEE THAT THE ISSUE OF SUBSIDIES IS “WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE” NOW. EVEN THE POOR PEOPLE NOW UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY THEY WERE REMOVED. AND IT SEEMS HH IS THE MOST EDUCATED PERSON THAT UPND HAS.
My brother, am equally shocked at the thinking of some people or may be its one person posting coments above-its possible. How can you ridicule a person calling for a debate on an issue of this magnitude? No wonder we have never selected a good leader for this country its because of such kind of thinking. HH has not insulted anyone, he has not called for for anyone to resign but he has proposed for a debate so that masses are clear and you here saying he is under five. Under five of what? Most of us here can even be employed by this guy you call under five and have better conditions of service. Lets change bane if we want a better zambia.
He can have the debate with our Big man Daniel Munkombwe.
HH ……i wonder if he knows the difference between left and right
Under5 added ati I lived in the UK myself, I worked and studied in Birmingham and London and the poor people there get unemployment benefits. These things are everywhere!kikikikiki
PS. This under5 is a dullard for sure, comparing the UK’s £600 billion budget to Zambia’s!kikiikikiikikiki
Hey Gorge Chella, what , the government has reinstroduced that TAX on fuel or better they overpaid the suppliers LOL.
Don’t confuse us with your un budgeted expenses which you president is exhuming
HH….dont shall how dull you are on this blog!! So you are encouraging people to be lazy?In life if you are lazy,you will surely die.
There is a difference between unemployment benefits and commodity subsidy. The Former benefits a targeted group while commodity subsidy like subsidy on Maize and fuel benefits everyone, including HH himself, just saying.
It looks like HH is lost for strategy. I am actually sure that he knows and understands what the government is trying to do. But he knows that playing to the gallery is what will keep him at his tangent trajectory, in the name of OPPOSITION. This is pandering to the whims of the feeble minded and the gullible/
My friend HH, the UK government can afford the luxury of paying loafers and all welfare payments because their economy is already large, they are developed, their infrastructure is tip top ALREADY. We do not have that privilege yet. We lack basics to enable us live in comfort badala….. Mmm, HH be real naiwe…
Shut up! Its about priorities. The same UK cannot afford to run a govt of 82 Cabinet and Deputy Ministers but Zambia can. The same UK cannot afford to provide Ministers and their Deputies a free fuel allowance of 800 litres per month but Zambia can!
The all thing is a circus. I do commend HH for trying to engage with the government to form some sort of debate on this issue. You would think a general a debate would have been held in parliament before commencing with the removal of subsidies but not pa zed. That is why GRZ is now reduced to sending ministers around the country to explain policy. The all thing is a communication disaster. The president should just address the nation and explain the benefits gained by the removal of subsidies then all this noise would stop and we would concentrate on more important issues affecting the country.
The whole thing is good. I do not know about the all thing buddy.
Why do i have a feeling that a few members of the family FOREST are posting comments under different names on LT,
LT next time show us then IP address or location of every comment so that we know that is not the some person
My dear friend stop chasing shadows in the darkness & concentrate on your feeble minded under5 leader. His advisers are cheating him he needs to buy smarter ones as he is rich!kikikiki
Because you are deluded.
Bafikala bonse shatup tubombeko…!
The removal of subsidies can be reversed if effects are retrogressive especially the maize subsidy. The millers are okay,it’s the poor who’ll feel it.
Zambia is a developing nation and needs some of the subsidies in order to promote growth and that can only be achieved if their are incentives in place to encourage production In a specific area for instance agriculture. It’s a fact that small scale farmers contribute more to maize production, if farmers are not given incentives they would happily become subsistence farmers ie feeding their families only.
I think there is a better way that these small scale farmers can be assisted other than complete removal of subsidies and therefore every serious Zambian shouldn’t ridicule HH over this issue, let’s promote debate so we hear from…
Uluse!! Ba dala has failed to appreciate that he will never be Presido of Zambia. Awe mwe! By the way, # 24 betters, are you saying that since Zambian watchdog is full of pipo who shower praises on HH and UPND are all from one family??
Thx for the free info.
CNP
Thanks for accepting that most people here are members of family FOREST, you can easily see that it is always the some people commenting and fast as though they have nothing to do they draw a salary by showering praises for SATA
Its actually very unfortunate to belong to SATA Family FOREST, that i can say. cos you will be forced to praise anything and everything GOOD or BAD eg, MAXWELL
MAXWELL, be dignified and accept Sata’s failed presidency can not be compared with HH young, educated intelligent and rich with visionary strategy for Zambia. Sata is old spent force that has taken Zambia 30 years back. Just wondering what you do in UK while idlising PF govt thuggery abusing Zambians.
In advanced nations, debate is an honorable thing. You will often hear an opponent or an incumbent after a difference in policy, demand ” I challenge you to open debate sir”.
In Westminster, the prime minister will more often than not, be challenged to bring to debate any matter that is unclear,serious or controversial. Other than to use open debate to find an amicable solution, it also enables the public examine,digest and make informed decisions on a matter of common interest.
However in African societies, eldership and political incumbency considers debate “disrespectful” to powers that be even when an election in itself is a debate of choice. Opponents of debate sooner than later begin to deny others the right to an election. Dictatorship then creep in and evil triumphs…
Imwe in the UK the Prime Minister sits in parliament and debates during parliamentary sessions. Please educate yourself about the difference between Westminster and Lusaka before you comment on things you don’t grasp
Even a dog or cat flies into the UK and still remains a dog.
A dog can never teach a human being just because it has been to uK.
Fulustop.
Only in Zambia, where a minor and tribal opposition political party leader can have the nerve to set the agenda for political debate with a popularly elected head of state. HH is, indeed, a pompous character.
when ll this scumbag ever say something that gratuate him from under5? Is this the way u to call your head of state to a debate? u want to prove what? that HAHA is lived in london!! primitive, clueles under5?
I lived and worked in london, poor people unemployment benefits….bla bla bla. Who doesnt know about this, anyone who has gone beyond grade 12 knows this.that why this scumbag has no clue about political strategy.
Why should the president waste time debating anything with a man who has been rejected by the people of Zambia? HH is desperate!
HH is a communist! HH is a communist! kikikikiki
HH knows that subsidies are not sustainable but he is just playing demagogue thinking pipo are gullible like his supporters.
Childish U5 when will you ever grow?!
Its easy to see the lack of brains in PF bloggers here.All they know is insults and fighting every sensible person.Whats wrong with a debate whose subject afftects everyone?I don’t think PF can tell what day or night is. No wonder the whole Africa jeered at Sata for talking nosense throughout his AU time.Disgrace, embarrassing so called head of state
You do it live with your wife and now you want it live on the screen with Sata.Won’t it be defilement considering you under 5 dawg?
AND you expect Sata to say ‘Yes I’ll be there’? Ha ha ha!
Old and outdated economics at work! The UK and EU countries are running austerity budgets and most of them have almost abolished most of the benefits they used to offer. HH is trapped on the economics of earlier years before 2008 world economic melt down. After 2008, we entered uncharted territory in world economics where austerity budgets are norm and freebies to be given to people have been slashed. If countries like Italy, Spain, Greece, Portugal and Cyprus are bankrupt and these had strong economies than Zambia, why should we continue wasting our resources on subsidies like maize meal consumption? Convincing people and doing what is right for the country are two different things, HH had a chance to convince people before elections and he failed, so he should wait for 2016!
President Sata recently directed his ministers to go out to the people and engage with them and explain to them how removal of subsidies will benefit them, especially the poorest of the poor amongst them. So, in principle it would definitely be good for President Sata to reinforce his directive by leading by example, i.e. holding a debate with HH on TV (and Radio). Actually I am a step ahead and just wondering who would be the suitable person(s) to moderate at this debate to ensure equal time, since as we all know Sata is simply incorrigible and dislikes being subjected to limitations. Just look at how he detours from written scripts when he is giving a speech.
This is so suprising! U want to debate na bafyashi when he z supposed to be thinkin of how to feed his children.What kind of a child are you? Removal of subsidies is logical. There z wat we call islamic economics, i dnt think you did that anyway it supports the distribution goods equaly instead of keepin it at the xpense of the poor.it say the rich shud giv part of wat they hav to poor to balance up things, that z wat z happenin.instead of the rich benefiting from the subsidise mr sata has removed them dat the poor can hav a share too.wake up hh!!
Stop shielding the old man. When was the last time you saw him on TV talking sense. We all know he is incapable of a debate with a grade 7 let alone HH. This is pure docility by some Zambians here. Useful *****ss
@Bo Dega . THIS IS WHAT EXACTLY MAKES SUCH A DEBATE IRRELEVANT. IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A CHILDISH ACADEMIC DEBATE. THE PF HAS ALREADY EXPLAINED THIS TO THE VOTERS.
Chisenga, I am glad you agree that our president would be murdered by a grade 7 in a live political debate.
HH should know that debates are for elections and this is not the time for elections! The opposition is encouraging the culture of people politicking everyday instead of encouraging people to work hard to support their families and improve their lives.
ARV’s are subsidised in Zambia and are given freely and no one is talking about them. These are very expensive drugs and people should be made to take responsibility for their lives by making them pay for their medication otherwise risk sexual behavior among the people will not change. The cost to the govt will continue to rise with every infection because the people knows that the govt will provide them with free medications. If they pay for medication themselves, they will take precautions to avoid infections. Choose what you eat!
This debate is already on going on blogs and other forms of media. I wonder HH has been to call for Debate now. Journalist and many print and electronic media both in and outside Zambia have given the implication of the removal of subsidies in Zambia.
@WIRELESS CHITEMBO. Does it really matter whether its in Parliament or not? Do you know the Head of State is also an MP and can go to the National Assembly to debate an issue of national importance in the manner he allowed debate at the recent AU?
KK on several occasions went to Parliament to debate on issues he required political,legislative and public support. Mwanawasa did the same. There are times when the President in his own person must go to the National Assembly to debate.
In the case in question, any opposition leader has a right to call the Executive Head for a debate even outside the election period. That’s in order and not outside the law. Its up to him to take the offer or reject it. If he rejects it,he hasn’t acted outside the law either. Why this debate phobia by a lot…
I always get amazed at people who become so defensive on behalf of someone else when challenged to a showdown. Why can’t you allow Sata himself to answer as to whether he thinks a debate is necessary or not – and the reasons thereof? I don’t buy the argument, in anycase, that because the subsidies benefitted everyone including the rich, they should be removed. So removing them benefits the poor? No such evidence, just claims. Besides we know their removal means higher prices of goods all round. The rich will still afford them. The point HH is making is that most countries have some kind of social safety net for the vulnerable. You don’t need to be super rich as a country to do that – its how you use the resources. Are we sure the ‘savings’ will go to the poor?
HH
Plz just return to your village ku sothern so you can apply for village headman!
@TANDI. Your comments are pregnant with moral opprobrium and derision against HH. You PF cadres seem to be frighteningly delusional about the term “debate”. Let me conveniently use the term “discussion” then, hoping it will suit your phobia against the former.
In a democracy a “discussion” by the Head of State is necessary to account or justify a major action Government has taken on behalf of the people. The mandate to govern is not a panacea to avoiding day by day engagement of the Governed especially on matters that are life and death to them.
In the principle of democracy of the Government of the people for the people and the people, debate, or sorry!, “discussion” is important to marshal genuine support of the people of an impending government policy. Because of the…
Plz speak English! I don’t understand the total amount of your reply! Where did you skool?
…and why do you support this kaponya? I am guessing you are a bus driver upset with the removal of your cheap fuel! Foooseke iwe…
HH THE PRESIDENT IS VERY BUSY WE WILL SEND CHISHIMBA KAMBWILI TO DEBATE WITH YOU WHEN ARE YOU READY
And we thought this guy was intelligent.HH is an egocentric and selfish person.We havent been seeing him donating anything to the helpless people in society like GBM.We havent been seeing him helping churches,schools not even the hopeless opharns in society.So what makes him think he has a hear to rule zambia if he cant even part away with his billions?The debate will be a shear waste of time and more over he cant compete with Noah(noah has always been known to be good at debates).just shut up HH!
On behalf of the nation, I would like to inform HH and his comrades that his request for a debate has been turned down. There are more important issues to address than spending time with immature politicians who are only hellbent on insults and academic exercises.
There are a lot of debate clubs dotted all over the country and I encourage HH to join any one of them.
May God bless Zambia!
Back to work!
Love that.
Hakainde….hakainde…what point do you want to prove? Let me tell you…some people are born intellectual even if they are not Phd holders.
If you want to embarase your self further go to debate with president Sata.The few books that have deceived you will evaporate in the middle of the interview and Sata will take you on.Ask Mitty Romney..he tried president Obama head on what happened he lost terribly.
Let me give you crop of people i have known whom you cant debate with and win.
1.Martin Luther.
2.Obama.
3.FTJ Chiluba.
4.Sata Micheal
5.Rob sichinga.
5.Elias Chipimo
These guys are natural Orators even if they are lying to you their lies are sweet and promising if what they propagate can be implemented.But you Hakainde i have never head something sensible from you.
WELL, IT CAN’T BE BETTER SAID THAN THIS. YOU HAVE PROVIDED HIM WITH A SOLUTION TO HIS DESIRE FOR DEBATING. HE HAS TO START FROM HIS AGE MATES.
IF HE HAS ANYTHING BETWEEN HIS EARS EVEN TRACE AMOUNTS,HE WILL NOT AGAIN ASK TO DEBATE NABAKULU.
VABAKULU NI VABAKULU .
I have a very small contribution to make here. HH is aware that PF has done it. He knows what PF will do for this country (after removing the subsidies) and he knows that PF will win in 2016. He knows that under the PF Govt, Zambia will be a beautiful country. Lets ignore his outbursts. They’re baseless. No one is interested any more
There is a bit of untruth being told here by HH. I am not sure how Unemployment benefits are structured in the UK, but what I know about this program here in the USA is that EMPLOYERS pay into the program for every employee on their books. In fact, here in the USA, the program is called UNEMPLOYMENT INSUARANCE. And like all insurances, employers are mandated, by law, to carry it! Yes, govt may “subsidize” part of it, usually after someone has exhausted their initial benefits (benefit extensions.) And this is only and always done by an “Act of Congress.”
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Furthermore, NOT EVERYBODY who is unemployed gets unemployment benefits; you have to have worked a certain period of time (usually a number of months), on a FULLTIME basis, for you to qualify. This is so because benefits are calculated based on how much you made (usually quarterly) while you were employed. These numbers are NOT something the govt simply pulls out of thin air and extend benefits to every “bum” on the streets. The program is only meant to help people who find themselves out of work due to NO FAULT of their own.
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In many instances if you quit (or resign) on your own, or get fired due to “misconduct” at work (which can be disputed in court if you so wish,) you do NOT qualify for unemployment benefits. Only in circumstances such as natural disasters, company closures, being laid off, etc., can one get unemployment benefits. And the benefits always have a TIME LIMIT—you can’t just sit on your “lazy butt” at home and keep collecting unemployment befits forever—-no, no, no! So HH is wrong to insinuate that this is all free “untargeted” money from the govt given to loafers or undeserving individuals—NOT true!
Ba LT, why is it that every time I comment my posts always are put on “Your comment is awaiting moderation” even when I rarely use foul or abusive language? Have you put my IP on probation for reasons only known to you guys?!!!
Folks, is it just me who experiences this annoying and unfounded censorship here on LT? Very frustrated long time devotee of LT!!!!!!
Feel you. I faced this kind of thing for trying to defend my Zambia against outside innuendo.
Fantasy,talk of suggest something else that can bring development in this country Sir. We need to forge forward and not going backwards as you are suggesting on subsidies. Due to the fleet of vehicles so the removal of fuel subsidies may have affected you.
HONESTLY MWEBANTU CAN HIS EXCELLENCE LOWER HIMSELF SO LOW AS TO START WASTING PRECIOUS TIME DEBATING WITH HH.
EVEN ME I WOULDN’T TOLERATE SUCH PLAY BY AN UNDER 5 KID.
THERE ARE NO MEDICINES IN HOSPITALS AND YOU EXPECT GOVT TO HELP YOU FILL UP YOUR FUEL TANK.
STUDENTS NEED BURSARIES,INFRASTRUCTURE IS NEEDED ETC YET THIS UNDER 5 KID ONLY THINKS ABOUT THE GOVT TOPPING UP ON HIS FUEL MONEY.
I WONDER HOW STUPID IT FEELS TO BE UNDER SUCH AN EVER DAY DREAMING BOY.
Imagine GRZ subsidising Konkola Copper Mines (KCM), Mopani Copper Mines (MCM), Lumwana and Kansanshi Copper Mines, while we need the money for bridges and student’s hostels etc.
(Shakes head), but HH mwandi, siuganiza mwana…
HH you are very backwards. You compare The Poor Zambia to the Rich UK and you want the Poor Zambia to be paying loafers on the streets in addition to maintaining subsidies? Ulikapuba sana.
The subsidies phenomenon is a well calculated PF Project to fund more by-elections. The removal of subsidies is in effect impacting negatively on the working Class and seriously retarding businesses run by poor men and women who are making ends meet at the markets. The PF is ruthlessly all out to punish the urban dwellers. Besides, the PF Ministers are now enriching themselves through massive allowances on savings being realised from fuel and maize subsidies by making deceptive and unproductive visits to cheat the innocent and most vulnerable people in the rural areas. THIS IS A BIG LESSON TO STUDENTS AND YOUTHS WHO VOTED FOR PF. God Help Us.
HH. These things are not everywhere as you say. I also lived and studied in the uk. Look at the plight of the people there who you say get subsidies. I now live somewhere where these subsidies dont apply. The people here are more empowered and are among the wealthiest on the world. Perhaps you should go and do some more research then ask for a debate. As someone else has pointed out, Sata will finish you.
If HH is elected as a president the poverty level will rise to more than 200% within 6 months. I think HH memorized economics without understanding at UNZA. Secondly, he wants to protect people who have robbed the nation. 1+1 = 2, subsidies + stealing from the nation = < 0. We do not debate on straight forward matters, it is a waste of time. You lost the elections, the best thing is to keep quite than exposing your dullness and foolishness. Wait for 2016 for an opportunity to contest for president. If by that time you are grown up in your head and stop being self centered, then you may be elected to president position.
It is not about abakulu or what, it’s about going for what is better. let HH convince the so called chimbwi no plan