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Nothing wrong about relations with rogue states-Kabimba

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PF Secretary General Wynter Kabimba
PF Secretary General Wynter Kabimba

MINISTER of Justice Wynter Kabimba says there is nothing strange about Zambia’s relations with countries that are looked down upon by the West.

Mr Kabimba, who is also Patriotic Front (PF) secretary general, said as a sovereign state, Zambia has the right to decide which countries to relate with.

He said this on Saturday night on Muvi TV when one of the viewers expressed concern on Zambia’s relations with countries like North Korea, Sudan, Cuba and China.

Mr Kabimba said people who are criticising Zambia’s relations with such countries are actually ignorant about Zambia’s history.
“We have had diplomatic relations with Palestine, for example, since 1978 and North Koreans are not devils as is portrayed by the Western media,” Mr Kabimba said.

He said countries being referred to as “rogue” are actually well-placed to help Zambia.

“Cuba is making her own ARVs when here we have to wait to be given free of charge. So what is wrong with relating with such a country,” Mr Kabimba wondered.

He said it is better to relate with countries that have had similar challenges with Zambia than those that are 700 years ahead.

39 COMMENTS

  1. The fact that you’re calling them “rogue states” says that you’re acknowledging their outlier status which is not far from PF’s own rogue-ish rule with lack of rule of law.

    • Don’t be a puppet of the west. They have colonized your mind for far too long. Free yourself!!

    • @ 1.1 Really…. “free yourself”? What on earth does North Korea have to do with freedom?

      If anyone, I am sure it is people like you (and Kabimba!) who still suffer from co-called colonial mentality to believe that ANYTHING against the west is somehow good for Africa. North Korea gladly (and intentionally!) keeps its people in mental and physical slavery. Is that the kind of “freedom” you want PF and Zambia to stand for and endorse?

  2. Idi.o.ts if Zambia was like that u could be allowed to yap.Demon iwe @enka with id iotic leaders-especially upnd,cocroaches that need to be crushed wen that oppotunity comes.

  3. “…He said it is better to relate with countries that have had similar challenges with Zambia than those that are 700 years ahead..”
    .Very dangerous development. Hon. Kambimba accepting reality of his party standings in the democratic world?

  4. Lusakatimes – Do you not have other sources of information other than Kabimba. Give us something else please?

  5. Winter thats how Zimbabweans started and the West taught them a very good lesson… Today Zimbabwe has been reduced to a slam. People in North Korea are starving begging for wheat from China what will they do for you?

    Cuba may produce ARV’s, Cuban’s are no better off than Zambians economically, in fact Zambia is far much better off.

  6. Very dull minister of justice,700years heard,figure out how they developed,Zambia and south Korea were on the same level in the 60’s.but today south Korea is advanced,why they aligned themselves with the west and it took them less than 30years.
    china did/does the same,it sends its nationals to study in the west conditions attached to come home and apply the acquired knowledge for the benefit of advancing the economy.
    north Korea is axis of evil,for they don’t believe in God.
    Is winter a Christian?

  7. True Hon. Kabimba. Honestly Mr. Kabimba you are a factual man and hardworking. You shouldn’t be pulled down by all those people who are criticizing you. Stay focused and its us people to see. Bravo Minister

    • teny u are so dull the truth is you will never do away with the western countries that’s a fact.what do u have for you to boast foolishly like that?pf government lacks civility its worse now that even professionals like kabimba himself have thrown their integrity and compromised it to a level where you cant even give it a name,is kabimba the minister of health to talk about arvs?you cant be an all round in politics,i think i salute sebastian zulu for refusing to be used,he is a man of integrity.

  8. But what benefits are we getting from associating with these nations? I can understand the China and Cuba links, but North Korea and Sudan just don’t make any sense

    • Its not about u always benefiting…its about helping others also….u re the pipo who like associating yoselves with very rich pipo…and not poor.

  9. @1.1 Mwelesa yafweni Zambia, Are you saying one should be a puppet of the East? You amaze me boss…I mean people like you prefer a Western style of life but call whoever opposes the West a hero. Given a chance of citizenship in either, Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China or the USA, I am certain you would ‘objectively’ settle for the USA. China itself is boasting economic growth after reorganizing its economy in a Western fashion. Only a rogue gains from a rogue. Rogue style of governing perpetuates rogue leaders over a free people. Work up and smell the coffee baba!

  10. Western countries like America and its Allies will bring you the following:

    (1) NGOS i.e AVAP, FODEP,NGOCC,TRANSPARENT INTERNATIONAL, OPPOSITION POLITICAL PARTIES ETC through funding so that you waste time arguing and sorting out each other. They will come latter as peace keepers.

    China will do the following for you.
    (1) Construct roads
    (2) Build stadiums
    (3) Build hospitals
    (4) Rail line etc.
    These things are there for all of us to see.;

    Show me which road in Zambia was built by Americans. Not even a street. But most of road networks were by China.

    • Kavuyi you are very dull, show us which roads in America were built by the Chinese, they did it themselves so you should as well do your own roads, shame! You are even proud of sayingvhe Chinese are doing this and that for us? Why cant we do it ourselves? Its people like you who are comfortable with others doing things for us that have made us this backward coz there are so many like you such that we are now stuck, just because of blockheads like you..!

  11. North Korea has blocked internet & use of cell phones. Sata has blocked ZWD. Associating with rogue nations will only take us backwards. It’s common knowledge that KK’s style of rule & family dynasty was loosely based on N.Korea. KK was grooming his kids to take over his reign. We were made to worship KK through songs, statues, huge pictures, news etc. just like the way N.Koreans did with Kim il sung.

  12. KABIMBA YOU HAVE JUST HIT THE NAIL OF THE HEAD, WE NEED NORTH KOREA, NEW PALESTINS FOR SURE, CUBA TRAINS OUR DOCTORS WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT. FORGET ABOUT AMERICA

  13. I think I can sum up the arguing with a simple proverb which I hope is simple enough for the PF blind comment caders to understand. If you want to fly like an eagle, don’t hang around chickens!

  14. @kavuyi; Without NGOs and other democratic institutions, you would still be under UNIP. Without these institutions PF would have been nowhere. Rogue states are known for totalitarianism, no free press, no free press. Its criminal to own phones, use internet and anything which may lead to civilization. All you do in these countries is to worship the leader. Its people like you who still miss the days when we lined up to welcome Kaunda, worshipping him “KU MULU LESA, PANSHI KAUNDA”.

    If this is what Kabimba admires, then he must know that people of Chipata Central, Kafulafuta and Solwezi East rejected it resoundingly in the last by-elections humiliation.

  15. Why are people so surprised and upset with Winter’s remarks? He is merely repeating what his rogue President asked him to say. Sata and PF have not proper friends in the international circles. So they have like Mugabe settled for the ‘crumbs.’ Sata is only implementing what he learnt during the UNIP era and what he sees Mugabe do. PF thinks it is macho to be seen with the ‘bad boys.’ The only exception is Palestine.

  16. By the way Kutems, I forgot another thing western countries will bring you ” Gays”. They will come to force you to recognise gays. They will even withold their so called aid. In their country Polygam is an arrestable offence( In fact a criminal ofence).

    We accept this as their way of living and we have not gone there to force them to recognise our Tonga bulls who have more than one wife.

    So what democray is that where you go and force people to change their culture and follow yours and failure to do so results into witholding their so called aid. To hell with you America. Leave me with my Zambia. Bye

  17. Have you been to North Korea? Cuba? They are starving. The darkness of their one-party, communistic state has produced the devastating results they have today. Why do we send our kids to Canada and the US for university and not the Havana State University or North Korea? Because those countries are totally dull. Do you remember when South Africa imported a bunch of Cuban doctors in the 1990’s? They sent them back because they were *****s. Fellow Zambians, wake up and join the 21st century!!

  18. I demand freedom and democracy. Keep dictatorship and its off-shoots of ignorance, poverty, backwardness of North Korea away; it is contagious

  19. Spuds have you been to north Korea? I bet your perception of Pyong Yong has been shaped by western media and ba engineer from Australia who told you Zimbabwe has been reduced to a slum? Let’s be factual inn our assertions and childish insulting bloggers please guys……..

  20. @11 ?, u a very very correct. Its funny how so many boostful zambians queue up at US embassy yet align themselves publicly with nothingness china,cuba,north korea. Why ve relationships with the likes of cuba,north korea ,zimbabwe. Should we suffer again coz of such things.

  21. Ndobo where are u on this? I like your insight on things like this wee. One I get so overwhelmed to comment. How many packets of ARVs was kabimba given kanshi.

  22. Is it alignment with certain countries tht makes it develop?No,S/korea,USA & evn China ve imensely developd due to high investment in SMEs & technology advancement.About 70-80% anual GDP fr these countries arise frm this industry.The industry is highly developd & such tht evn the modern concepts of entrepreneurship worldover re being emulated frm these countries.Its not asociation or alignment tht develops a country.Aftr al evn the west re Zambia’s partners in development.Except we ve gone furthr to acomodate these othr countries.

  23. The era of political antogonism is gone; no need to court controvesial countries like North Korea; they are dictotors; what do you ve in common?

  24. Wynter Kabimba – The Fact that you personally are 700 years behind doesn’t mean we all are.

    Have got a serious problem with when you try to generalise your ignorance in public.

  25. TOO MANY “YOZ” & “EXEZ” HERE. YOU CAN SEE THEIR REASONING ON THIS BLOG. THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY TVs, WESTERN MOVIES, WESTERN MUSIC CHANNELS ETC AND THEY CALL THAT CIVILIZATION. IF YOU CHECK YOU WILL FIND THAT MOST NEGATIVE VISES IN OUR SOCIETIES ARE DUE TO THESE SAME PEOPLE WHOSE PARENTS ARE SO LAZY THAT THEY LEAVE THEIR PARENTING DUTIES TO THE TV SCREEN. THEIR CHILDREN HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE ELDERLY,ARE GAY,THUGS,DRUG USERS AND PUSHERS.
    TO GO TO AMERICA IS THEIR ULTIMATE GO IN LIFE.

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