Former Freedom Fighter Elias Chipimo Snr has warned that growing levels of discontent among citizens might spark a revolution in Zambia soon.
Mr. Chipimo who is Father to NAREP President Elias Chipimo Jnr said there is a lot of tension in the country due to discontent among citizens.
Mr. Chipimo Snr, a former diplomat who was once imprisoned on treason charges by the Kaunda regime said the PF government should start listening to its citizens.
“A revolution is coming soon in this country because people are totally upset and the government is not listening. People are being intimidated everywhere and are not free to express themselves,” Mr Chipimo Snr said.
He added, “Wherever people get upset and that anger is allowed to be bottled up, that always sparks a revolution and I can see that happening here if the government does not start listening to its people.”
Mr Chipimo Snr was speaking Friday morning during a live special interview on Hot FM’s Red Hot Breakfast Show in Lusaka.
He further charged that Zambia has lacked the inspiration with which it was founded upon in 1964.
“It’s like people are no longer free. When we fought the white minority rule, we fought so that we could be free to speak but today if one says something that the government is not happy about, they are arrested. This is not the freedom we fought for,” he said.
Mr Chipimo Snr also explained that Chumbu Munshololwa does not amount to an insult.
“I’m surprised that somebody is taken to court for calling someone Chumbu Munshololwa. This is not defamatory at all. It simply means one who cannot be advised.”
Who is he ?
Never heard of him.
Who are you sir? Identify yourself!
Thanks
Mr Sata can only rely on the Zambian docility for so long ! People will rise and we should, it happened in Egypt, Iraq, Tunisia where leaders were more powerful than him- you are not immune sir. The day you will want to talk the country will be in frames. So we call on his Excellency the president to be responsible.
He is a senile old man campaigning for his son.
@MUSHOTA he is among those who fought 4 this freedom which is driven in reverse gear by mr Sata.2 he is a citizen who is watching everything happening
A revolution will surely happen, but not during the PF rule, it will happen long after PF has gone, probabbly in the next 40 years, who ever will be ruling by then.
@Mushota get back in your rat hole.. damn robot!
If you have to ask for Mr. Chipimo’s credentials, you must be under 30 years old or have been raised in an information cocoon. Instead of questioning the messenger do your research and intelligently question the message for correctness, sense and sensibility.
Your igmorance shames you, not him!
Being deliberately, ignorant, dense and obtuse is ripe ground for becoming a PF cadre.
Now let me mourn my hero Ariel Sharon. General wa ma General
Revolutions leads to the shedding of Innocent blood.This man must be careful of what he wishes and hopes for.Hating the ruling government is one thing but hoping for turmoil is another.Hope he is the only one who is going to die during that revolution.
@Zebige, the elder loves the country, I met an English man, or i know an English man who came to Zambia in 1954 and remained in Zambia for 30 years, he was a manager at Standard Bank, and when i visit him, he tells me stories of those times, and when we were talking one day he mentioned Mr Chipimo Snr and said what a great personality he was in fighting for his country! The elder is merely pointing out the obvious, as Zambians we must be bold, its our cowardice that has graced us with this reckless rulership, that sits back and creates a crisis at UTH where people are suffering needlessly kwati finama! Something will have to give…
Most of us hate Sata, but come on why hoping for a revolution? Whose innocent blood does this old man wants to be shed ? Nafulwa.This is the most stupid statement I have heard in a long time.I would rather have chumbu munshololwa than losing any of my loved ones.
@Folerence
Nobody is wishing Zambia blood shed,, Mr chipimo sr is simply warning zambians for the imminent danger on the horizon… you cant run away from the fact there is tension… maybe you dont like the word tension,, then there is alot of discomfort in Zambia…and alot more. sometimes its important to advice!!
@Soulosi
PF cadres like you who can at least write and claim to have heavy degree qualifications can move in and advise your Sata that he is opening alot of tension fronts in the country…things are NOT rosy good in zambia thats a fact.. and please tell him to stop lying and give the people the constitution he promiseD!!!! remember blind cadres costed Kaunda alot!!!
@Ndobo….ulichipuba.Just vote and change the government and not that revolution nonsense.Emotions never changed anything.You dull chap living in Sweden because of shagging a desperate old muzungu.Shame on you chik-ala.
@ndobo tiye uko iwe chik Allah ! Change the government through the ballot and not these revolutions.Emotions never solved anything.
@shootist
I forgive you my boy, you dont understand english, No body is promoting a revoultion or advocating for one… Mr Chipimo is sounding a timely warning!!! the PF govts needs to start listening more and promoting dialogue more ,,,NOT being a chumbu mushololwa thats the point you are missing!!!
Revolution is very good for people in diaspora, papers move fast to “asylum”.
Go go go guys, the Komakis go break windows!!
@ndobo there is nothing like forgive iwe cheek Allah ! You just don’t make sense.No wonder the only reason you are in the diaspora is because you nyengas that old muzungu well.Your capital of staying in Sweden is your kama di.ck. Mumbwa mumbwa iwe.Call for peaceful election not masobela ati revolution.Pan your par call !
Because u were born yesterday only discover that yo parents are in the UK. Arent there english meduim schools there were they can teach you proper english? I guess u cant even speak any of your zambian language.
@MUSHOTA — Because u were born yesterday only discover that yo parents are in the UK. Arent there english meduim schools there were they can teach you proper english? I guess u cant even speak any of your zambian language.
@shootist
look at my comments again, they are all sober and am not calling for a revolution,,, i have not insulted you like you have done or attacked your personality like you have done, then look at your own comments, i want to believe that you are in the USA for `right` reasons, you are educated and you are clivised because you are living in clivised country!!
learn some respect you will live longer… i dont want to put in your comments in a curse pit, friendily warning
You must be an under 20
@ndobo is that a threat you little punk ? Boi sungasobele with me.I just hate how you support all nonsense as long it is against pf. Use your brain for a change and not thinking with your capital(you know what I mean).Learn to analyze issues waumfwa ? Basop !
Mushota yu cant know Chipimo senior because yu were born yesterday but still give respect to elders who have done so much for this country. Try to know yo history and roots
He’s one of the people who fought for your freedom. Surprised that you’ve not heard of him.
Faka pressure Mr Chipimo Sr. You are amongst the few freedom fighters left. Try your best to advise this schizophrenic in state house and tell him that the voices he is hearing are songs of a revolution about to start.
Mushota, are you sure you don’t know Mr Chipimo? The man can speak very good English more than your little endowed nick.
By April people will rise to fight this PF dictatorship with full force. See how they defied police and protected HH from police intrusion and intimidation. These are signs that people are fed up with Sata and are ready for a battle to boot him out whether he likes it or not.
A revolution flows like a flooded river,stand in its way it simply sweeps you off and damps you to place of no return.
Sata change or your blood line will be cursed!
Elias Chipimo Jr. will be the first nonentity to be abolished in the revolution,
There is so much wisdom in what the old man is saying. Every well meaning zambian knows that he is telling the truth.
MWAICE MUSHOTA, ITS YOU TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF. NOT Mr ELIAS CHIPIMO Jnr. IF YOU DONT KNOW HIM, IT MEANS YOU EVEN DONT KNOW YOURSELF, LET ALONE ZAMBIA.
@Ndobo
I agree with 100%. Its just that direct or indirect beneficiaries of the PF’s nepotistic job schemes are the ones opposing your views.They don’t want to accept any view that threatens their job prospects under Sata.They take any sound warning like the one given by Mr Chipimo Snr with a pinch of salt and deny the obvious because they know full well that removing Sata would mean job losses.
What Mr Chipimo Snr said does not amount to advocating for a revolution but simple free ,sound and timely advice to Sata and PF to listen to the cries of the people and change course to avoid violent demonstrations against the government.
A revolution in Zambia,I wouldn’t think of it, but the riots and attempted military coups like the ones that forced KK and Chiluba to concede are more…
A revolution in Zambia, I wouldn’t think of it. But the riots and military attempted coups that stopped KK and Chiluba misusing power are more likely to happen in this existing political atmosphere being created by Sata and his PF.
All this state of emergence by stealth he has imposed on politicians will be useless the day the people will say enough is enough with Sata.KK had his state of emergence in place,but the people defied it and took to the streets. He had the army under his control, but some courageous young soldiers surprised him. Exactly what happened under KK was repeated under Chiluba.
KK and Chiluba were fortunate that their lives were spared.But Sata might not be fortunate owing to his ill health.He will just collapse and die upon hearing he has been overthrown
@Shootist, You sir is a Gold ring in the snout of a pig. Car colour kobe tom bar know call star of newyork mambala iwe!
As much as what you’re saying is the truth……. I would urge you to be careful sir, as you might just be man handled and humiliated – by air style!
These are untameable rugshod thugs we’re dealing with.
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@Lusakan, cowards like Mr Sata behaves the way they do because of people like you. If everyone is willing to stand up and say the truth Sata and PF can be kicked out of power in no time.
If its not an insult why didn’t he repeat it instead of saying someone?
If you try and pet your friends “peaceful” dog and it responds by savagely attacking you, don’t you think that it would stupid of me to try and pet it as well.
The man is taking reasonble caution with a system that behaves irrationally at best and vindictively as a norm.
Mwansa Kapeya, George Chellah, KK, IG, CJ and team have little or no regard for the past or their elderrs and betters. Chances are that Chellah is at his keyboard right now typing out an ill prepared vicerolic response.
Chipimo Senior does not mince his words. And he means well.In the late 70s when Kaunda was indomitable, Mr. Chipimo was quoted by the Times of Zambia as having said, “The problem with most African Leaders is that they don’t want to step down voluntarily. That’s why most of them end up with a bullet in their heads.” This unleashed the fury of the ruling UNIP cadres who smoked him out of his Standard Bank office where he was Chairman and beat him to pulp. He sued the Times of Zambia and the Attorney General and eventually won about K950,000.00. About $1.5M in today’s money.
It’s either the “BALLOT” or the “BULLET” !!
Very articulate man everyone takes notice when he speaks!!
@MuBemba ilungu
You are right. They way things are going right now, I think we will need more than a ballot for sure.
Revolutions in the modern world are only for Arab countries bosses.The only revolutions that will happen is through the ballot booth.Just because you found a few individuals complaining over a container of chibuku doesn`t mean that everyone shares the same feelings and sentiments.High time you stopped generalizing issues.Anyway i`m not surprised especially looking at the fact that your son is fighting for plot one.Now stop being a pessimist and hope for a proper political transition shikulu naimwe.
Nothing can beat the ballot booth.The old man is hoping for anarchy.We have no room for that because Zambians are decent people.Just because he threw stones during Chachacha doesn’t mean even our generation should.
but you are there in europe far away from the compounds of our towns, you do not know what is going on, yet you pass such comments. dont you realize that when sharing a tin of chibuku that is when true reflection of the mood of the people is exhibited? you could be one of the beneficiaries of this rotten regime, be careful
Chachine ba Daka
@Matipa
I am with you on this one. These guys have forgotten what happened to KK and Chiluba for them to finally concede. They don’t know that riots and revolution start in shake shake and chibuku houses where people discuss nshima issues not in hotels.
Lets wait and see until April. On Thursday the police failed to reach HH because of people power. Right now they are waiting for some thing silly to happen and that will be it.
The big man is very right. Their is an African proverb that says that
“What an old man can see while seated an young man can’t see when standing”.
What Chipimo sr has seen Chumbu munshololwa can’t see it.
He is alarmist. The man is broke hoping to start another court case which he hopes to win.
You are a disgrace to yourself and what ever schools you have attended. Your lack of ability to analyse the message in the light of current affairs and through the lenses of history, both Zambian and world, is shocking!
You deserve a full refund from GRZ for all the schooling you’ve attended in your life. Just return your certificates (if any) to ECZ for destruction and refund.
Abena Dextrose koma mwamweba yayaya ati take the ccertificates back to Ecz, decent suggestion..
He is just a confused old man.Who hopes for that ? Just tell your son to campaign hard and he will win ,not building castles in the air like you are doing now. Crazy old man.
And this is based on…?
PF cadre supported by more PF cadres. Heads so empty that they’re still hearing echos from 3 years ago.
The man is highly learned and highly distinguished. He is respected locally by his peers.
In basic English that means, your fathers boss’s, bosses bosses, bosses, bosses, bosses, bosses, boss (otherwise you fathers ultimate employer) treats this man with respect and respects his opinion. The person that you’re a biggest fan of is HIS fan!
What was your or your fathers biggest contribution to Zambia?
“Crazy old man”.
A revolution will be the worst experience for our people.
Look at the countries being referenced as examples of revolutions. These are not revolutions. They are mere confusions. Revolutions bring about freedom and peace to the citizenry. One does not see this in the events in the Arab world.
Spot on.The old man is asking for too much.
Scared?
It’s already here!
Boys boys, our elder is not suggesting a revolution, rather our dear elder has merely measured the temperature of the current environment being enabled and created over and over again at any given chance by the sweet-potato crew! They are making the conditions that necessitate and rouse revolution in the people. Its like the panga thing, the conditions were created for that to occur… This is rather a call to all reasonable citizens to stand up and firstly use our freedom of expression however little of it we have and can muster.. in speaking out at any recklessness whenever it rears its ugly head from within the panga sweet potato crew!
…..’umukulu apusa akabwe tapusa ekeebo’….bemba adage. The old man has spoken. Let those with ears HEAR
Hear hear! Finally, a sensible person!
Sorry, i dont understand bemba.
Mushombo or whatever you call your self no one cares if you know who he is keep your fantasy world where you are rich and have some sort of basic education and think you live in the uk we know no one living there would indulge in kaponya business so really shut the hell up clown
You Bembas should keep talk of a revolution to yourselves. Just because your Kingdom is being threatened you start talk of a national revolution. How come Tongas Ngonis Lambas haven’t called for a revolution whenever they are mistreated? Keep this Chitimukulu revolution in Kasama. The rest of us want national progress
That’s the problem. No balls like the Bemba.
Ba Soul brother mwaliba aba lubana imwe bakalamba, your petty hatred is maintaining you blind.
Ooooooooh ! So its true that “whatever goes arround, comes around ” because we are dealing with trison suspect here. Revolutions leads to the shedding of Innocent blood.This man must be careful of what he wishes and hopes for.Hating the ruling government is one thing but hoping for turmoil is another.Hope he is the only one who is going to die during that revolution.
If someone says that having multiple concurrent sexual partners without using a condom could lead to you acquiring an STI would you say that they wish you to acquire and STI. It is a warning, are you so against warnings that you treat them as threats. You really can’t be THAT dim witted, can you?
Go look up “bloodless revolution”. Better still, go and ask KK what one is, he went though one in 1991. He’ll tell you!
Someone tells you that sticking your penis in an electric port can lead to electrocution and loss of your manhood and you retort that the person wants you to lose your manhood so that he can bed your wife! Your logic is “cork srewed” and mixed up!
You need deliverance from the possession by demons of ignorance and “umbuli”.
@Zesco: Chipimo is not warning us he is prophesising. Proper prophet of doom. Go and read his statement above. He says a revolution is coming soon not any of the e g.s you give above. Noone ever warns of a bloodless revolution in such a mannet so spare us these weak defences for this thirst for blood
@Soul Brother get rid of your petty tribal hatred, we are all one in Zambia, and this government isn’t a Bemba conspiracy. Its about family nepotism, and a pure lack of Principle. You can’t judge the enitre Lu Bemba based on the actions, Incompetence, and failure of one lost Leader. You can’t pass blanket statements its irrational. It was many Bemba’s that selflessly fought Rhodesians on the mines of the C.B to free the entire nation. You are clouding your vision and that of the youth when you carry on promoting your vile tribal attitude. Let me not hear you ever again uttering tribal drivel. People of Sata’s Bisa grouping are equally suffering and dieing in UTH under his misrule…
Good afternoon
He may be old but I disagree with his statement that “Wherever people get upset and the anger is bottled up, there is a revolution…”.
How much anger is bottled up in countries like Russia, China, Korea and Cuba? The countries are ruled with an iron fist and there has never been a revolution. No group of people anywhere sees things the same way and there will always be dissatisfied citizens in every country.
It is not the first time that Zambians are upset about things in the country. We have always had hard times but we have always found peaceful means to overcome them. Elections is one of them.
@Nine Chale- Am sure you have never heard of the Cuban Revolution which brought Castro to power, the Russian revolution led by V I Lenin, the Tianamen Square revolution in China. Kindly research before posting.
BaShipuku what is a revolution? Tianamen doesnt count as one. What arose out of that one act which was crushed? Its you who needs to research not Nine Chale
@Soul Brother Number 4- The word Revolution comes out of the word Revolt. People revolted at Tianamen Square. It does not matter that the revolution did not succeed. But it was still a revolution. Comprendo?
Either this fellow is taking “tongue in cheek” or “foot in mouth”. If it’s the former then big props, if it is the latter then the fellow needs some serious help. The kind of help needed is that that uses electric shock therapy, restraints and re-education as tools for medication.
This type of dumb is measured both on the Richter and the Fujita scales. This kind of density puts gold and mercury to the shame of hydrogen.
Russia, Czar Nick, Stalin, Lenin, Khrushchev, Yeltsin and Putin – that’s 3 in one century
China – The last dynasty, Chairman Mao (CULTURAL REVOLUTION), Deng Siao Peng,
Korea – The Kim clan just “Appeared” from thin air right?
Cuba – Did the clown hear of a small cigar puffing fellow called Castro
Spot on Nine Chale !
Are you sure about that? Don’t you remember the food riots in Zambia of 1990 that left 24 people dead and over 150 injured and eventually forced KK to announce the dates of a referendum on introducing multi-party rule….the rest is history.
BaShipuku thats the problem with relying on a dictionary for your education. it gives you a one dimensional definition naturally based on grammar. A revolution as explained by social scientists constitutes the act of revolt, its scope as well as its effects. Therefore 200 people revolting out of 20 million and not changing anything doesnt constitute a revolution. A revolution results in fundamental change in power or organisational structures Marx and Malcom X add the element of bloodshed in describing a revolution
@spook, zesco units if you read me right, you will see that I used the PRESENT tense and NOT the past tense. After Lenin, Stalin, Kim and Castro, has the current generation seen any revolution in the said countries? Yeltsin and Putin like Chruschtschow are in the category political and social transformation.
@ jay, jay a revolt is NOT a revolution.
Soul bro – pre tianimen squ revolt china was closed off from the world. Post tianamen, they are as open as a hules legs. That counts as a revolution. The country changed its modus operandi.
Think, bwana think! Its not yet illegal to think!
Thank you Nine chale tell Spook people revolted at Tianamen but the revolution never happened
@ all you guys wasting time discussing the meaning of a Revolution, do you all with your education have any clue what that word means to a villager or a Shantian living in Chawama or Misisi on less than a Dollar per day? Go down there and research their understanding of that word, then come back and explain to us what it actually means practically to those affected angry people, not apa, because all of us here knows what it means period!
Kwena sure this man loves advocating bloodshed. He talked of Kaunda getting a bullet which obviously would have led to bloodshed. Now he is advocating for “Egypt” in Zambia. Ba Chipimo dont you want your son to rule? To peacefully come to power? Peacefully here means through the use of a ballot not through a revolution
To advocate is to “stand in the gap”, hence becausse you cannot go before a judge and therefore you get an advocate / lawyer who can approach the bench. To say that Snr is advocating for violence is to say that in his discourse, he states that violence is good, right and just. Does he say that, Mr and Ms. PF cadre? No!
He states that what is being done and how the nation is being managed is leading the nation down this path.
To analogise: a fire cracker is relatively harmless, it explodes and causes noise and a bang in dissipating its pent up energy. If you take the same fire cracker and hold it in your fist while lit. You’re likely to lose a finger or two. If you have a fist full of them, you won’t be scratching your nuts again.
If you hold your people in an iron grip,…
@Zesco Units please tell these people, forever under a cloud of fear, hence ignoring whats obvious, ignoring to repair society, consequently we have made a sweet potato out of Sata because we are always scared to stand up for whats correct! Its a shame really..
Another case of dictionary education @ Zesco
Revolutions!!! What a think to even dream of! Look at Egypt, Tunisia Etc what good has come out those revolutions? They are still unsettled and still fighting, they were even better of before the so called revolutions! My point is that let us express our dissatisfaction as much we can but the real solution is the ballot box. Revolution would cost us a lot, look at those countries going through this today what have they gained? We don’t have the money to start rebuilding Zambia.
Ba chipimo as much as you campaign for your little toddler be careful of what you wish for and suppose a revolution was to happen which came s in many forms where will your son go to Britain and what about people from Mansa be careful , sir you wish is trash this will never Happen in my zambia , the Ballot is our revolution sir.
Before you get you knickers in a twist, THINK! That is what those two hemispheres in you skull are for!
Remember, this man warned KK and what happened when KK did not listen?
I seem to recall names like Shamwana, Musakanya, Gen. Miyanda, Fredrick Titus Jacob Chiluba, Mushala, Luchembe and terms like Food Riots (when we raided Kabulonga supermarket), Black Mamba,Zero option… Do you remember them too, my egg head?
Well when KK got stiff and didn’t want to repeal Article 4 (damnn you must remember this, iwe chikopo), when FTJ had everyone in the grip of SAP, ESAP and was screwing everything in a skirt and buying enough clothes for a whole school…
The “toddler” you speak of is better educated and better accounted for than your whole family combined.
Chi dalo group 3,…
@Zesco Units- Thanks a lot Zesco Units. You are the blogger of the moment. ratchet up the brain cells to aid our memories of things as they happened.
All this Wise Man is saying is The Current Leader, does NOT adhere to democratic principles,
BUT uses the Old style ways of governing via Intimidation, & at times Brutality through his panga wielding thug’s – PF CADRES. We all Know, Saulosi included, that this is Sata’s preferred way of governing
Problem with this recipe is its been tried, & tested by K.K, until the people suffered enough, lost all fear due to bottled up suffering, & told him to “GO TO HELL”
We all know the results- Food Riots, & Lieutenant Mwamba Luchembe declaring on ZNBC, – “I am now Kateka of chino chalo”
It’s interesting how Mr Sata and his PF have suddenly become the public enemy number one to even trigger the wrath of grumpy old politicians like Mr Chipimo who are unknown to the new generation.
Mr Sata and his PF have tormented and terrorised many citizens since September 2011 and I don’t remember Mr Chipimo ever raising any concerns over the misrule of Zambia. Why now, Mr Chipimo Snr? Could it be because Mr Sata has dared to step on the toes of your fellow tribesmen?
Please Mr Chipimo Snr, leave your selfish politicking to your son and enjoy your old age quietly and peacefully.
To glean a clear picture of what this man is trying to articulate… we need to analysis the contents of his character… And I’m afraid to say, it’s all colonial thinking mentality, SCAREMONGERS.
Peaceful Zambia is way passed that! No revolution bigman, for peace and prosperity will forever revolve in our dear beloved Zambia
A Tembo, at least nga mule fwaya ku pona, ku ponta mu chisungu cha correct. “Passed”, shua ma biggie, kwati ni ‘mayeso’ sha ku chipata. Ku landa “past”, mudala.
Awe!!! Not fya “Enlish has no master”! Mwa tyola chizungu woi.
Mwaiche sit down you were born in 1993 you know nothing.
Iwe dx dy musiye Tembo mwine wake. Ise tamvera. Viva Tembo!
With due respect batata,l know if i went further u may remember me.Some of yo nephews and children at one time we played togather.But 4 luck of a better adjectives,’amano nayacepa mumutwe wenu batata.Even yo elder bro was my headteacher.Awenapela.
MUSHOTA, AM RELIABLY INFORMED YOU ARE EITHER A PROSTITUTE OR A HOMOSEXUAL BEND ON PROVOKING US. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE MAKAKA.
Anyway it is good to hear from u after two decades.Batata,we have not reached that level where u may call for that.l think u,yo son and other st upid Zambians are exegerating the situation based on evil motives.KNOW U MAY TOO B SWEPT BY IT.
@ Zebige. SATA thrives on cowards like you because he knows that you fears magazi. Freedom is expensive and it does not come on a silver platter, period.
@ Zebige. SATA thrives on cowards like you because he knows that you FEAR magazi. Freedom is expensive and it does not come on a silver platter, period
Of late Mushota is the first to comment on any political story. She has become paid worker of PF. If she was a genuine PHd pursuer with so many feathers in her educational hat, she will surely know or google Chipimo.
Revolution is unlikely to come. It will God’s intervention and natural solution will come in play.
Mushota is a robot..
Truly a leopard never changes its spots. From coup plotter to revolution plotter. A man hell bent on violence even in old age. Now I understand why his son has been so inconsistent. He lacks a political mentor in the father. Like father like son. This careless and politically biased statement has only worked to decampaign his son.
Jill ,
remember the day you found Jesus? You quit smoking pot and fags, you quit drinking alcohol, you quit being bonked by every available person within reach. You developed / adopted good traits. That, my snowflake, was A REVOLUTION. It was your revolution.
Maybe you went the other way, maybe you found ther devil, alcohol, viagra, heroin, coke, chamba and multiple orgasms. Either way that was a revolution.
Don’t let a cadre con you into believing that all revolutions involve bloodshed and violence.
The day your great grand dad decided he liked shoes more than bare feet, or that you realised that there was more than the “missionary” position for sex! Remember when we traded in the typing pool of stenographers for a desk top, or when we shifted to a laptop, or ipad?…
Why do so many people jump to the conclusion that Chipimo Snr is “calling for” a revolution?
The headline and article both say that he is “warning of” a revolution. There is a difference between CALLING FOR and WARNING OF, right? Where exactly do you see that he is advocating for revolution?
Eish… learn to read!
They are so full of fear thats why, and i think they know what our elder is saying has many elements of truth, hence the scared emotional reaction, rather we must be reflecting…
Indeed learn to read. Go read paragraph 4 and 5 too of the article at issue
Soul Brother “A revolution is coming soon in this country because people are totally upset and the government is not listening. People are being intimidated everywhere and are not free to express themselves,” Mr Chipimo Snr said.
He added, “Wherever people get upset and that anger is allowed to be bottled up, that always sparks a revolution and I can see that happening here if the government does not start listening to its people.”
This not a call neither is it a suggestion of a revolution.. It is rather an observation of evidence prevailing in the manner of governance which has the potential to enable a condition known as revolution. Revolution takes many forms its not always bloody. Discontent is building up undeniably.
Chibamba why are you being so selective in your interpretation of this Chipimo article? Read the sentences I have given reference to
@ Soul Brother, Nowhere in the paragraphs you site (or elsewhere that I can see) does Chipimo Snr advocate for revolution or say that he wishes there were a revolution. He is merely observing that conditions are ripe for revolution. You may agree with his analysis or not, but either way it is very different from calling on people to burn tyres in the street or to sharpen their pitchforks and march (….or even “match”) on State House.
@Soul Brother- Brother Iv read the material, its plain to see, there’s no room to mis-interpret anything. The Elder is speak the truth, moreover, he is too senior and responsible a citizen to encourage blood shed. As oral history tells us from those that lived then, he has sacrificed more for this country than any of us… and so here i see an elder who is concerned for Motherland, and is speaking TRUTH, like i said earlier to you Soul Brother, try by all means to do away with analysing everything through tribal lens, there are some very decent Bemba’s in Zambia, just like all the other Nations within our country. The government of Michael Sata is the one if anything that is setting the tone for violence, because he seems to enjoy violence as a way of getting his way because he is…
Chibamba nakumvera but you Bembas should nt think you can fool us. There was no such talk of revolution until your Sata ruffled your royal house. When we all saw and protested the nonsense in Sata you were quiet. My party and all others had hoped to topple Sata via the ballot. Now because of Sosala we should be spilling our blood in your battles? Yayi baba how self centred can Kasama be?
@Soul Brother You v got a point, personally am equally as concerned about the disrespect shown to Barotse, I don’t like to see that.. My point is that we all are in this mess together really, and must stand together, its pointless to point fingers at one another, because Zambia is for all of us, we are so connected by flesh and blood and the soil, the water etc etc.. I despise tribal agitation!
reading the way most bloggers ve reacted to old bashikulu who one cannot mistake as once unita’s savimbi loyalist, i pity those empty heads that gathered at the cathedral dreaming a revolution was near.
We all know the gathering was marely a feel good factor by empty tins barking for nothing. zambians are not fuz to listen to petty under5s
I wonder why you people are incensed/get angry by Mushota’s comments…..she enjoys that so much because most of the times she detracts many out of topic and show insults and all sorts of comments it’s now wonder she wants to comment first!! I don’t mind her she is just a clown.
point of correction my brother. its not a she but a he(homo who was ‘married’ to a Briton but now dumped) the only consolation left is trapping items on the site as they appear
I wonder why you people are incensed/get angry by Mushota’s comments…..she enjoys that so much because most of the times she detracts many out of topic and you begin to shower her with insults and all sorts of comments it’s now wonder she wants to comment first!! I don’t mind her she is just a clown.
Yeah,go ahead and launch a violent overthrow of this abusive PF govt and then deal ruthlessly with chi Sata just like they did with Mohamed Morsi or Saddam Hussein.
A revolution is coming soon in this country because people are totally upset and the government is not listening. People are being intimidated everywhere and are not free to express themselves,” Mr Chipimo Snr said.
He added, “Wherever people get upset and that anger is allowed to be bottled up, that always sparks a revolution and I can see that happening here if the government does not start listening to its people.”
@soul bro #4 – is this the offending text?
If it is then please explain your strange logic.
If I called your argument foolish, would you have me summoned and charged for inciting violence or insulting you?
I’d be giving a comment on the argument and its lack of substance or merit.
Cadres don’t accept that tertiary education is necessary but I think it…
@Tumbuka,why can’t u be the first 1 to start it?You are calling others 2 start it.ls dat not a show of extreme cowdice?We re not like Arabs who look confused.Just use noble means 2 dislodge pf in 2016 otherwise u nd yo leaders it z another lose.
Awuleth umshini wami….if you wanna see the beginning of the end of chi Sata.
That rare wisdom shines for once.
We the people……
A revolution is inevitable if this country is to be saved politically, economically and socially. However, we have another problem apart from the failing PF. The problem is a divided, selfish and narrow minded opposition. Every Opposition leader wants to take a chance, they think that simply because PF has lost popularity it is easy to win as single opposition party. That is gambling and gamblers can even be more dangerous for our country than PF.
Ladies n gentlemen, what tension is Mr Chipimo talking about? I bet its in the mind of the opposition party characters who really want to wrestle power from the PF by hook or crook. The Zambians l mingled with are a happy people trying very hard to better their lives. People are building houses and business premises on a daily basis. Driving is no longer a luxury for the rich, l met my former garden boy driving his own car and had a plot of land he is building his own house. If you go to the beer halls see how they were dancing to a hit song, Kanselele. Senile chipimo is busy insinuating that the people will abandon their peaceful life to that of bloodshed for the sake if his son to become ptesident,? NEVER!
I think, ba chinyama, you need to come to the farms and say such clap trap. Leave a will before you come though, because that is likely to be your last trip out.
You gardener is driving and building? So tell me what your gardener is doing when he’s not spending money. He’s mader a quantum leap forward.
So life is about cars, houses and beer?
Your level of greed is interesting.
John farmer you must be a farm worker who survives on lynching innocent people for their wrist watches like the mailoni brothers. My former gardener buys fish and kapenta from mpulungu an sells the same at chisokone market. 1 tin of kapenta goes for 70 kwacha and he usually brings in up to 30 bags per trip. Abandon his money making venture to join your revolution? Mubepelefye.
I have to give PF full marks for indoctrination of cadre soul bro #4. The poor chap even reads words that are not there and reads nonexistent meanings into the ordinary discourse.
If soul bro is not on the payroll, then he should be. He insults on command, propagated misinformation, confused the illiterate masses, next he’ll have fellows thinking that the industrial revolution involved the slaughter of all industries.
How someone or some people reaching the end of their rope and snapping at the system and demanding change (like repeal of article 4) can be misconstrued to mean a violent, bloody North African revolution escapes me!
Oh well! Two beers and a
Just face it Zesco. Soul B speaks more sense than you
Within the political arena, a revolution is a forced change of govt. through means that are not prescribed by the laws of the day. For example, a Coup. When a revolution succeeds, it is legitimate. But when it fails, the instigators of the same are face the wrath of the very law they were trying to overthrow. A revolution is not necessarily violent – nor does it have to lead to lives being lost. It may constitute civil disobedience to a scale where govt. is rendered impotent and a new regime takes over. But when conditions are such that they lead to a revolution, bloodshed may occur and sometimes it is the sacrifice that has to be made for freedom. It is not recommended but sometimes it occurs. Thinking that all revolutions should be blood free is a pipe dream and cowardly.
No matter how much frustrated people get, please refrain from mentioning such deadly acts, neither are they solutions nor do they sooth anyones swollen heart. Bloggers I urge you all to watch Tears of the Sun including you sir Ba Chipimo, then you will know what I mean. I will vote for your son given a chance though, I like him very much for a president.
People, people!!!
Get the gist of Chipimo Snr’s message, if he was qouted in context, and stop splitting hairs on semantics…Revolt coming from Revolution..Revolver.etc.
I have analysed the following:
1. Zambians speak and associate more and better now and the media is freer than ever before. No ‘bottles’ exist to close off peoples views…people speak, write and blog ad lib.
2. when they say wrong things democracy and rule law demands that they be questioned and charged or released depending.
3.democracy in Zambia has really matured…before it was not even imaginable for anyone particularly a 45 year old retired priest to criticise or even use terms like ‘Chumbu Munshololwa’ to refer to an elderly person not least our President.
for me CM is a derogatory term just…
“A revolution is coming soon in this country because people are totally upset and the government is not listening. People are being intimidated everywhere and are not free to express themselves.”
The above statement can be understood variously; that voilence is being prophesied or that it is just a statement by a 90 year old man thinking aloud. Interpretation is yours.
The revolution will evolve within the PF regime. Just watch it. Kabimba was fighting GBM; Two PF MPs are qt each others necks in Luanshya, Sata himselves is waging wars against the very Bemba Chief who support his rise to e Republical Presidency. The discontents are more developed within members of PF.’s structure which is on a self-destruction mode.
May God Hear Our Prayers..
Ba Elias says, “I’m Surprised That Somebody Is Taken To Court For Calling Someone Chumbu Munshololwa. This Is Not Defamatory At All. It Simply Means One Who Cannot Be Advised.”
WE WERE ALSO SURPRISED TO SEE U IN A PHOTOS CHASING AFTER SMALL GIRLS ON SOCIAL MEDIA AT ONE OF THE NIGHT SPOTS IN LUSAKA! THE REMARK YOU’VE ALLUDED TO IS NOT AN INSULT PAR SE BUT IT IS HIGHLY INFLAMMATORY & DEROGATORY DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT IT IS USED. THOSE WORDS WERE AIMED AT SOMEONE, AS OLD AS YOURSELF BUT WITH A STRONG FOLLOWING OF CADRES IN THAT AREA. THE WORDS, AS EXPECTED, PROVOKED ANGRY EMOTIONS IN PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO SPEAK THE LANGUAGE & UNDERSTAND THE CONTEXT FAIRLY WELL.
IF POLICE FAIL TO INTERVENE, CERTAIN AREAS LIKE LUAPULA MIGHT BE NO GO AREA FOR PEOPLE LIKE BWALYA DURING ELECTION CAMPAIGNS.
Mr Elias Chipimo Snr warns, “of an Imminent Revolution!”
TATA, TONE DOWN. TAME YOUR TONGUE.
PLEASE YOU ARE TOO OLD TO PUT YOURSELF AT THE MERCY OF STATE POLICE MACHINERY. REMEMBER U WERE ONCE IMPRISONED ON TREASON CHARGES!
Old f00l, instead of talking about how to strengthen our young democracy hes advocating for anarchy. Anyone hasn’t been to Zambia lately would think th country is on fire. He’s probably demented.
Young f00l have respect for old people. The old man has not called for blood shed, he just said he is seeing a revolution coming if this government does stop oppressing its critics. You think people are happy with how PF is running the affairs of this country? Just pray for peace between now and 2016.
If anyone needs a revolution in Zed it is the PF. The rest of us are alright with trying to remove the PF through the ballot. However, I see the PF imploding. Standby opposition parties for the countdown…..
I stick to my views. You re busy making noise on the net while the real voters re busy bettering their lives. When your preferred candidates are beaten pants down you will be the first to cry n continue your insults.
Ha come on is there no news except an old man’s ramblings?
I didnt know that this man is still alive.He prophesied the chiluba’s downfall and it happened and he was the first minister to resign in chiluba’s govnt.
What he is saying is true even a Nigerian had prophesied that if we wont be carefull as Zambian they will be a revolution and it will start with only two people but it will spread.
Ka Mushota uletasha and give respect to elders……Do you know who Elias Chipimo senior is? This is the man who was lecturing English to students at Harvard university…..three quarters of whom were whites. Nomba iwe lelo wipushe at who is this man? Ulekwata umuncisa wecinangwa we. Nga waciba mupepi kuti naposa na makofi for not shwoing respect to elders like Elias Chipimo senior who have really done a lot for this country.
It is already wrong and enough to do wrong, but it is worse to feel proud of it.
SATA is so proud of wrong doing; the man enjoys wrongs and clearly celebrates when others suffer or are in trouble.
What spirit is at work if SATA enjoys and celebrates evil and the suffering of others?
Prayer for the Nation is vital and a must for our future.
Zambia has been temporarily besieged by a strange being (spirit) which must be rooted out.
Yes, this is temporary.
The mistake made was that the same was endorsed by some people from the pulpit. Thus the church authority and power was compromised, and so prayer offered could only hit the roof.
Thank God, the church has began to repent – those who endorsed him have seen their errors are regretful.
Therefore prayer is now ready to go beyond the…
Revolution is not bloodshed,it is a radical change of a country’s direction:moral,social,spiritual,national health,economy and many other spheres of life,either for it against the masses,then what turns into bloodshed is the reaction,from the affected.those that decide to follow a particular direction.
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