A number of Non-Governmental Organisations have been angered by remarks attributed to Finance and National Planning Minister Alexander Chikwanda.
Mr Chikwanda is quoted in the media to have said that people only form CSO/NGOs when they are failures and want to make ends meet.
But Action Aid Executive Director Pamela Chisanga urged Mr Chikwanda to go back to his Civics and understand the role and functions of the Civil Society Organisations in the world.
Ms Chisanga says it is highly regrettable and embarrassing for a man of the Minister’s caliber to utter such a statement because he should be in a position to know the three sectors of society which include the public sector, the private sector and the civil society something she says the minister should be conversant with.
She said the Minister should realize that he is a Minister today because of the role the civil society played in bringing about change hence belittling the efforts of CSOs/NGOs is highly regrettable.
She further says NGOs/ CSOs have been helping very poor people which his government can not reach hence it baffles them to see the Minister turn around and attack them .
“CSOs, NGOs in this country have stepped in to work with the very very poor people that his government does not reach particularly under the PF government and him as Minister of Finance, he has failed to prioritize poverty reduction in terms of ensuring that funds trickle down to each Zambian that needs to be served with various public services and NGOs and CSOs are doing some of the work that government is doing so we fail to understand why the Minister would turn around and start attecking CSOs”. She said.
Ms Chisanga further cautioned Mr Chikwanda to stop attacking CSOs when it is him who is in office because of money saying the public has been told on several occasions that he has tried to resign but has not done so because of fear of being hounded for corruption.
“On the other hand he is the one in that position because of money. We have head that he has tried to resign so many times but he has stayed there because if he leaves he will be hounded for stealing money or whatever it is that he is accused of, so he should not turn that around and start attacking CSOs cause if there people that are in that position because of money it is the current crop of politicians”. Ms Chisanga said.
And Young African leaders Initiative YALI Executive Director Andrew Ntewewe said it is unfortunate that a person that young people should look up to for wisdom has decided to insult them.
He said Mr Chikwanda should first look at himself before venturing into unwarranted attacks on the civil society as the same would be said about him for being in the position he is today after serving in the same position in the UNIP government.
“We expect wisdom from him but the fact that he is uttering what I might simply refer to as insults as a young parson I will not retaliate the way he has insulted us but I want tell him that we feel very insulted because whatever we are doing is for the people of Zambia” he noted.
“It is him who should feel ashamed that having been a Minister in UNIP somewhere in the 70s when some of us were not even born he can still go back and barge for a job as Minister of Finance, its him who has failed in all spheres of life apart from the fact that he is able to milk from the tables of politicians”. Mr Ntewewe added.
Meanwhile NGOCC board chairperson Beatrice Grillo challenged Mr Chikwanda to prove his sweeping statement as some NGOs such as the NGOCC which has a membership of over 125members were in existence before the PF was even formed.
She urged the Minister not make general statements of that nature because some of the people running NGOs run their own firms and do not get any money from their organisations and that doing so would be proving the minister’s ignorance on the role of the civil society in the world.
“Its unfortunate that such statements are coming from our leaders, it shows that they do not understand the role of the civil society as world over there is no government that governs without the civil society, CSOs provide checks and balances to the government”. noted Ms Grillo.
She also noted that if most of the organisations that are operating were founded by frustrated people then they would not have lasted long.
“All these credible organisations they can not be branded that they were started by frustrated people as the founders of the organisations have moved on but the organisations have continued which shows that they were based on sound foundation, if they were not founded on strong foundation they would not have lasted that long”. Said the NGOCC board Chair.
Chikwanda is just a useless old hide. Sikatana in Silozi, Who the hell does he think he is. It is him who is a failure. The Old hide is not ashamed that the Kwacha is at its waste when he is Minister of Finance. He is a Chimbwi No Plan,
Go round the country and see what CSOs are doing to help the poor whose money you have corruptly gotten.
Having been a Minister just after Independence in 1964, through the 70’s and 80’s and still look for a Job in 2011 speaks volumes Mr Chikwanda.
Now tell us whose a failure.
only failures can indeed get upset
none failures would work hard to prove chikwanda wrong
This is a reason big enough for the minister to resign his position. Zambia’s economy incorporates a large portion of her GDP contributions from philanthropy activities within whom the NGOs are a big part. If you remove the NGOs from the equation then Zambia can’t even consider borrowing from the World Bank as it will be a rogue state with no transparency in GRZ. The NGOs can bring the government on its knees. How do you condemn World Vision with all the remote areas that they cover which government has no idea about? As minister of finance, surely he must have a column showing how much machinery the NGOs bring into the country and how much employment they provide. If he can’t quit then the president should drop him. PF needs a few sacrificial lamb to start turning its image around.
UNICEF is an NGO.
Charlotte Scott worked for UNICEF all her life, until unfortunately her husband joined the “successful” Pathetic Fools (PF).
THE TRUTH HURTS. IF NOT TRUE WHY NOT FORM UP PROPER BUSINESSES AND EMPLOY THE YOUTH?
Birds of the same feathers fly together they say, Sata mentality, chimbwi mentality !
Can tell from his looks that he is tired and should be allowed rest! He has no energy to think. ABC has failed and he is finished! $1=K6!!!
Tiyeni uko bafinyo!
If it was hh or bantubotatwe wh o had raised these legitimate concerns the bemba lunatic fringe like pit latrine dark green flies would have been insulting us as bantustan. No more trusting bisa-bemba. they dont vote for bantubotatwe.
Imagine in 2011, luapula and northern provinces gave hh/upnd less than a thousand votes. These bakawalala tabatuyandi. Now tooth for tooth. We have no use for bakawalala but kumihya bamakaintu babo
Inchobeni ncobeni musaa, aba ba suntwe tabatuyandi. This time around it’s was. And they should know Lusaka is surrounded by Bantu Botatwe. Enough is enough with these stinking and thieving Iturian Katangese pygmies.
@ siamanengo
it good thing about bembas is that they are not show off, but generally humble and accommodating of other tribes despite their numbers.
Bembas comprise 43% of the total population. they are the majority but they brag about that.
can you imagine if it was your bantu botatwe tribe that had such numbers, the country would have definitely been at war
God gave the bembas such numbers for very good reasons
@Gen, Luapula, Kudos and fellow hutu apartheid kabwalalas. Which 43 percent? Zwa wena lisholi. You are only useful for providing bantu botatwe with women to relieve them.
Facts speech louder. Your action expose who you are.
KK was a dictator; you supported him because he was ‘bemba’.
FJT was a grand lazzo, the perfect definition of you bakawalala. together with privatisation team of bembas (val.entine chitalu, ronal penza, georg sokota, frans kauda, timoth mushibwe, mazombwe, sokota, mtine, donald chanda, sampa, mutale, and other bakawala) looted parastatals. You supported TJ because he was ‘bemba’.
sata is a fervent tribalist and crookd liar dictator. you support him because he was ‘bemba’.
Hi Gen,
As yourself why your so called Bembas have travelled 1000s km to come to bantu botatwe land? is it raiding? when you say Bembas do you include Bemba speaking who have been assimilated as useless Bemba Speaking. This tribal talk was started by PF. It was not there in Mwanawa ok KK.
You easily debunk that statement by posting your verifiable resumes including your grade 7 certificates.
MOST NGOs IN ZAMBIA & ELSEWHERE ARE GROUPS OF INDIVIDUALS WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO FURTHER & SUSTAIN THE GOALS OF THEIR SPONSORS & TO EVADE TAX REMITTANCES TO GOVERNMENT.
A GOOD NUMBER OF THEM ARE GENUINELY REGISTERED FOR RELIGIOUS, BENEVOLENT, CULTURAL, SCIENTIFIC, PATRIOTIC OR OTHER PURPOSES.
BUT THE HON. MINISTER WAS REFERRING TO FAKE LOCAL NGOs LIKE F.O.D.E.P. ETC OTHERWISE WE ALL NOW WHY WE FORM NGOs MOST OF WHICH DISAPPEAR AS SOON THEY ARE REGISTERED.
Now the Luapula Premier has sink even deeper. He can translate Chikwanda thinking? Only lunatics can understand each other.
This dinosaur also, I thought it was supposed to be resting in extinction peacefully! Maybe someone should put it out of its misery!
Am not Bemba but I find comments by Siamanengo about Bembas viral.I think he/she needs 2think beyond tribe.U shud understand that Bembas make up a large section of tribal demographics and it would be very difficult 2get 2state house minus their support.
Interesting observation, but don’t you think LUAPULA PREMIER’s tribal diarrhoea is worse that Siamanengo? Do not apply double standards, if you need to condemn tribal blogging then you need to condemn all tribal bloggers regardless of which tribe they are attacking. To be president in Zambia you need the support of all tribes not just bembas. No single tribe in Zambia can get to state house without the support of others.
Even sincere projections of voting patterns come 2016 will point 2the fact that UPND won’t assume govt.ItLs 2early.There is a lot of work that UPND needs 2do 2assume a national character.
Even sincere projections of voting patterns province by province come 2016 will point 2the fact that UPND won’t assume govt.ItLs 2early.There is a lot of work that UPND needs 2do 2assume a national character.
Even sincere projections province by province come 2016 will point 2the fact that it’s rather early 4UPND 2assume govt.It’s vital 2construe the context in which the Minister made the comment.I don’t think it’s a sweeping 1.
Imbila ya mushi tabayankula. Chikwanda simpply made a general statement, knowing that there are indeed fake CSO.NGOs and genuine ones.
@Umubemba, I like that….
@ Umubemba,
The big man should know better than generalise issues especially when one particular NGO has been vocal on speaking out over the plight of poor Zambians.
Infact am surprised to hear this coming from him, so he can also let go and carelessly make general statements like some desperate politicians we know? I have known him as a rational calm and composed wise man, hope he wasnt coerced in making such sentiments, this is unlike him!
chikwanda is right on this one. these No Good Offenders (NGOs) are failed enitities that have been turned into remote contolled political fronts. the evil forces behind these movements are stinkers like Hindoshi Hiyaume (HH) what do you expect from someone who spends the whole day smelling the behind of oxen
Kudos,
You look like Kolwestan. Its primitivity for you to dream that owning cows is poverty.
HH has 90000++ cows. He is the most intelligent and respected President Zambia ever has. Go world over and see that owning a cattle is a sign of intelligence and wealthy even here in UK. You fathers and mothers gonged you with their useless poverty mind that owning cattle is lowness. Thats why you have created poverty all over Zambia and the more we tolerate this the poorer. Get some basic education.
@ Janza,
What does Janza Kumbele mean? I always mean to ask finally I got the gutts to!
OLD. Drunkard ine uluse . Just continue with you usless PF
The Minister’s comments on NGOs were spot on.
The same comments are expressed here in the USA on the sudden mushrooming of NGOs in the third world. They come and go without a trace! E.g. where is Lifwekelo today & his NGO? He disappeared with it the moment RB, the sponsor, was fired.
FODEP comments on virtually everything! Today they r condemning violence at stadiums, the next they comment on Masumba’s court judgment & his court appeal while they are mute on court judgment against the oppositions’ corrupt vises during elections. Then they are up in arms when the president appoints a tribunal to probe our judges. The same guys are against the acting Chief Justice, for the immediate enactment of the constitution, they are condemning party violence etc.
Just like private companies, the fact that an NGO is no longer existing does NOT mean that it did not contribute to the nation. Some of the CSOs disappeared from the scene because of the HOSTILE enviroment from the PF when it got into power.
Examples include Lifwekelo’s NGO; and Companies owned by so many people the PF ido.ts have depoted so far – including a community Church that had been affected when PF deported a Priest in Lundazi which has not re-opened since!!
Even the Zambian Watchdog cannot operate in Zambia except remotely because of PF hostility!!
@ Lovely,
Timing is important dear, no matter how right he may have been, the timing is wrong!
Don’t even ague, some NGO’S are useless. We know them there after money.
Its actually easier to run a political party than an NGO in Zambia. Those talking rubbish about FODEP may have just come to know zambian politics when pf came into power. Fodep is a very credible institution formed in the early 1990s with proper governance structures that start from grassroots throughout the 10 provinces. Chipenzi is just an employee, there are serious guys behind the scenes
Who are those USE.LESS guys behind his ar,se then? Stop making stu.pid statements without justifying hem!!
NGOs are useless and of no value in our society, you are just causing confusion and adding nothing to the economy of our country. vultures of the land.
Yes, only if you are saying that they are USELESS as you! What have you ever done to benefit anyone!
@Zed Patriot
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMPLEMENTS.
I AM NOT TRIBAL NEITHER AM I BEMBA BUT A LUNDA FRM THE LUNDA KINGDOM OF THE GREAT MWATI YAMVO. FOR YOUR INFO, I VOTED FOR ANDERSON MAZOKA. I M READY TO DO SO EVEN TODAY OR FOR ANYONE WHO IS NOT LIKE HH & SIAKAFUSWA.
I REPEAT I AM NOT TRIBAL OTHERWISE I WOULD NOT HAVE MARRIED A TONGA. BUT YOU CANNOT HUSH ME UP FOR SUPPORTING THIS GUY, SATA. WITHOUT A SHADOW OF DOUBT & IF FACE BOOK POLLS, THE CLAMOR FOR 50+1% & THE DESPERATE ATTEMPTS TO FORM COALITIONS (TO BEAT MADALA’S POPULARITY) ARE ANYTHING TO GO BY, SATA IS THE MOST POPULAR POLITICAL INDIVIDUAL OF OUR TIME! HIS EFFORT TO IMPROVE THE OUTLOOK OF OUR COUNTRY THROUGH A MASS OF INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT ARE NOTE WORTH WORTHY. HAS SURELY CAUGHT THE EYE OF EVERYONE IN THE LAND.
@mpumbu
i like you day dreaming on facebook votes which can only make a president popular in dream land
What a stu,pid adult fella you are! How on earth can you claim that you are non Tribal as if you would tell us if you were Tribal?
What’s the relevance of Mazoka to justify stu.pidity? Who cares if you voted for him or not? After all the STU.PID Bemba tribalists including yourself are making the same FALSE claim of voting for Mazoka!! If they did he would have become President – SO keep your lies in your AR.SE where they will never see daylight! CNP!
How can a non kabwalala seek companionship of lisholi? Because Mpundu trust you are by descent, up bringing and outlook a kawalala you wont vote for a trustworthy muntu wotatwe. Look at the grand thieves of zambia with chiluba as your chief apostle; just bukabwalala day, night, morning. Keep your vote iwe thief. after all you gave hh less that 0.00001% in 2011. Yu baptised tribalists.
Mpundu trust aka LUAPULA PREMIER, anyone who has followed your blogs know you are a tribalist since you are one of the diehard PF bloggers who always uses tribe in their argument no matter how vague or hollow their argument is. By the way, when people refer to bembas they normally refer to people who speak the bemba dialect other wise the real bembas are a smaller group of people who, at the moment, broadly do not support Sata due to his treatment of their chief Chitimukulu.
@Zed Patriot
IF CONDEMNING HH & SIAKAFUSWA’S OBSESSION BY THE BEMBA TRIBE IS TANTAMOUNT TO BEING A TRIBALIST, THEN SO BE IT!!!!
Empty tin makes too much noise. That is the old chikwanda who want to leave this country with too hvy debt
You are right! That useless OLD fossil Chikwanda is the worst thing that PF has done to our Public Finances – there will be no money left by the time these Bembas leave office – stealing is inborn!
some NGO are only on paper and people benefiting from these fake NGOs are relatives. its time we join government and check what they do instead of allowing them make noise on ZNBC national broadcaster. All these NGOs are found in Lusaka and copperbelt provinces.
This chisanga woman paraded poor silly girls whilst she relaxed with her own at home watching ds tv. Why didn’t she match with them if she’s as brave as she would like to sound? These are the ngos with a hidden agenda. Where was she when hh was peddling tribal politics in katuba? What about shakafuswa’s tribal rants in parliament? Some of these ngos are sponsored by opposition political parties and outside forces inimical to the interest of zambia.
Bakolwe basekana ifipato! Chikwanda thinks hes not a failure? Look at how the econony is fairing. Talemona? Ubukopo can really blindfold, eh?
LT, let me be heard. Dont block my expose of bakawalala
The NGO community must learn to address problems, not personalities and antagonizing political parties. When NGOs act disproportionately, they will face resistance from government. Government must enjoy trust and respect of citizens to delivery fats track development in the Third World. For this reason, it is necessary to contextualize statements attributed to national leaders. There is n need to jump to draw wrong conclusions.
And if the origin of the problem are result of idiocy of a “personalty”, then who you address? Dr. Makasa Kasonde (Private Citizen)?
Grow up “Private Citizen” and assume your responsibility
Zambia: Sata Haunts Madyenkuku Out Of Mulungushi MMD Convention
BY AMOS MALUPENGA, 1 MAY 2001
Kabwe — Sports minister Syacheye Madyenkuku on Sunday night walked out of the Mulungushi Rock of Authority, the venue of the MMD convention in protest after minister without portfolio Michael Sata haunted him for not wearing a third term T-shirt.
In an interview, Madyenkuku said Sata approached him during the day ordering him to remove his shirt and instead wear a third term T-shirt.
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@ kashimaini,
Hihihihihihihihi! The president was a bully, tell us more!
@ Cindy
What you mean by “was”?
Then was nobody, now with power of the state you think his bullishness can be quantified as “was”?
The truth will pain,as the saying goes. Honestly speaking you the so called NGOs ,you have no function apart from asking for money which you use building your houses. By the way do you even see the how filthy the pictures you send to your would be donors look like as the put them in foreign medias begging for donations .It’s shamefull,I keep on asking myself,can the Zambia so called working class fail to contribute only K20???you ask from others?????
Fossil Chikwanda is a relic from UNIP one party era. …these empty tins are litterally digging their own graves, the best we can do is hand them the shovels. I would rather be a “failure” and set up an NGO to help my community than be a govt offical who deceives taxpayer’s who put them in government.
The truth hurts! Most NGOs were established for personal gain. You know it yourselves ladies and gentlemen.
@Ndobo
Plse continue to bury your head in the sand when you deliberately ignore the face book statistics as a sign of the president’s popularity. As Mark Zukerberg, the architect of face book once noted, “by giving people the face_book power to share, we are starting to see people make their voices heard on a different scale from what has historically been possible. These voices will increase in no. & volume. They cannot be ignored. Over time, we expect governments to become more responsive to issues & concerns raised directly by their people rather than through intermediaries controlled by a select few such as press conferences.
Through this process, we believe that political leaders will emerge across all countries of the world who are pro-internet.”
Are you talking about Chellah popularity?
Good afternoon
I think the NGOs are protesting too much. Why get angered if there’s no truth in what the minister said? Credibility should be the only way for non-governmental organisations to overcome political, economic and social resistance in a democratic state.
I wont call any names but some of these organisations have really strayed from their roles and objectives to take uoen themselves unnecessary workloads – they need to be ruffled up by such sharp statements in order for them to go back and stick to their original concept.
Why then you are on defensive when your favorite geriatric liars react in a same way?
What do you expect from a stroke survivor? Half the brain is dead. Infact don’t expect anything good from anyone among the PF high ranking officials because they are all sick and half dead. Sata, Scott, Wynter, Chikwanda – all zombies. But these CSO/NGOs only have themselves to blame because they all knew very well the kind of person Sata was but they put him there. Kaunda warned but they never listened.
THESE USELESS MPS ARE AFTER MONEY ONE OF THE DEP MINISTER MALAMA SAID WE GO TO PM AND IN GOVER BECAUSE OF MONEYS.
Having no answers and solutions to the economic problems zambia is facing, ABC is frustrated. Because MCS is blackmailing him from resigning his position ,ABC finds himself against the wall; trapped by his failures and corruption, he is desperately irritated. So the statement that NGOs were formed by failures was uttered in a fit of frustrated rage. He had to find a way to vent his anger.
@Gen u are very dull don’t include God in your foolishness and tribalism which 43% majority? Bemba’s are in mungwi kasama chinsali a bit in mpika they don’t even make 15% of the countries populationso yyou have people like u with complexes and hide their tribes like ushi lungu lala tabwa bisa some lambas whole luapula province so get a life and tell your children your real tribes stop hiding in the so called bemba who don’t even look at u when they use and damp u.
Mpundu is getting 5% on all deposits that NAPSA has put in Finance Bank and Leasing Finance. Check the bank accounts for large withdrawal of cash changing hands.
A minister of a country that ranks 173 on the UN development index issuing such a foolish statement ! If the richest country on earth, the U.S. has lots of NGOs, what more with Zambia.
Chikwanda is simply a retard, and a clueless old man, who is a huge liability to the country. He cant even realize that he is looked after by tax payers. On top of that, he gets business contracts from the same government.
No wonder PF has zero smart people in its ranks. They are so low in thinking.
Waaaa!
Chikwanda, what’s your age?
Kids are now insulting you because of blindly following chumbu. 70s to 2014!, and you opt for insults is that not failure of the worst kind?
Last time you messed our economy, that was forty years ago….shame!