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FDD tells UPND MPs to stop being hypocrites, they took oath in the name of the President

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Forum for Democracy and Development spokesperson Antonio Mwanza stresses a point during the meeting to demand for the release of the draft Zambian constitution
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Opposition Forum for Democracy and Development says it is hypocritical for opposition UPND MPs that took oath of office in the name of President Edgar Lungu as Republican President to turn around and refuse to recognise the same person whose name and portfolio they took oath on.

Speaking when he featured on Joy FM on Thursday, FDD Spokesperson Antonio Mwanza said instead of continuing to play politics of confrontation, the UPND MPs who feel that President Lungu was not duly elected should have refused to be sworn in or simply resign their positions.

He said the MPs decided to first secure their hefty salaries and allowances by taking oath and pledging their allegiance to the President and the Republican Constitution and then now have turned around and are using parliament as a battle ground to settle personal political squabbles instead of providing service and leadership to the people who elected them.

He said those MPs who refuse to recognise President Edgar Lungu in whose name they took oath of office should resign instead of wasting people’s time and resources at the expense of more pressing national issues.

And when asked if UPND leaders are seeking attention by finding themselves on the wrong side of the law Mr Mwanza said it is important to realise that people are looking for solutions to the challenges they are facing and that the opposition should be part of the solution by providing not only checks and balances to the government but as well as alternative policy direction.

He strongly condemn police brutality against leaders and members of the opposition UPND and called on President Edgar Lungu to prevail on police misconduct because it was denting the image and name of both the President and the country.

Mr Mwanza added that as a leader there is need to sometimes stay away from the media and quietly work for the people who believe in you as opposed to always seeking public attention in the media.

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  1. That is why your leader who danced with PF during elections got bitten by them.

    Mwanza you are just job hunting.
    The pipo who voted for for MPs feel their vote was stolen and want their representatives to show that in parliament.
    Those UPND MPs are acting on instructions from their constituents they are representing the feeling of their pipo who feel their vote was stolen.

    You could have been more relevant by advising PF to let the petition be heard instead of hiding behind technicalities.

    Let the whole world see that lungu won. Let’s see the petition. Why are PF afraid of the petition if they won ?

    • The key thing here is that those silly MPs and their tribesmen obey their god HH. The one to be programmed is HH and then they’ll start behaving.

      Going on and on about those tu ma MPs as is they have brains is a waste of time. Let’s focus on controlling their pompous tribal leader and BOOM! The wash will be clean…

      Thank

    • Mwanza you are not qualified to say anything.

      You are in FDD. You numpty. Stay forever in obscurity. POS

      Thanks

      BB2014

    • It is st.upid to claim theft without providing evidence. The party of f00ls had 14 days to prove they did not fairly lose the elections but the only benefits shown was a hefty bill of legal fees in the range of 3 million kwacha and not even a single piece of evidence. Even the Mushipe hallucinations of someone voting six times was not mentioned. UPND should stop being i.diots and making very childish and s.tupid claims without evidence.

    • Why should they resign as if they were appointed by Edgar? on which ground? which clause in the both the amended and old constitution says that if an illegal president in this case Chagwa is not recognized by some sober Parliamentarians should resign? Antonio talk about your Kantemba party and its misfortunes. From the time FDD was founded how many MP’s have your current leadership including yourself added or how many have you subtracted?

    • Spaka ilko bad,
      No one is afraid of the petition. UPND was given time but they decided to play politics and academic argument in a court of law.
      UPND should just grow up.

    • @Spaka,If their vote was stolen why are they in parliament. They are their because people voted for them and they won parliamentary seats. Those who stood and lost including HH and Nawakwi should respect us the voters,because disrespecting those we voted for at presidential or parliamentary level is actually insulting the voter and I can assure you that we will keep them in opposition for a very long time because power lies in the voter and not ECL or HH.

    • Owe ka Antonio Mwanza, why is that you and your grandmother, Edith Nawakwi aka Carlington maize thief, fond of condemning whatever the UPND does? Did your celebrated Edgar C Lungu not hypocritical when he refused to heed the very Constitution he signed by refusing to step aside during the Petition filed by the UPND? Did you scorn Edgar Lungu? Every right thinking Zambian is now thinking you are the one and your grandmother Nawakwi who are hypocritical! Shut up if you have nothing to say.

    • Iwe ka Antonio Mwanza, why is that you and your grandmother, Edith Nawakwi aka Carlington maize thief, fond of condemning whatever the UPND does? Did your celebrated Edgar C Lungu not hypocritical when he refused to heed the very Constitution he signed by refusing to step aside during the Petition filed by the UPND? Did you scorn Edgar Lungu? Every right thinking Zambian is now thinking you are the one and your grandmother Nawakwi who are hypocritical! Shut up if you have nothing to say.

    • Then they are acting on wrong instructions. It is not fair to continue claiming that elections were stolen when they can’t even say how many votes were stolen, where they were stolen and by who. This matter can be put to rest if the UPND can provide that evidence. Remember before the petition they said that they had overwhelming evidence, which they have so far failed to produce. Produce the evidence in the media. Remember Justice delayed is justice denied.

    • If it was concerning the PF, they would have said they took oath of office in the name of the presidency and not the president. There is some confusion about the two issues and for PF, we believe it is taking oath in the presidency and not in the person as president.

    • If Upnd had evidence of the rigging it would have been in public domain by now why don’t you make that information public to prove the pf wrong??

    • It is amazing how HH can overwhelm and control feeble PF brains without saying or doing anything. Clearly HH is the elephant in the room for PF and their puppets in FDD and elsewhere. #HOWTOCONTROLGOVTFROMOPPOSITION

    • Lungu presidency is boring. He us trying not be a tyrant like I do Amin but he cannot control all corners of Zambia.
      These MPs have a right to stay away. Leave them alone go and sort out government issues. Yhe economy is co?lapsing and you are chasing after upnd supporters day and night. Why is JH giving you a headache? Got sort the food prices, fuel, energy and fuel. You are in gov now

  2. TOO MANY KOKOLIKO’S JOB HUNTING, & LOOKING FOR CRUMBS FROM CHAGWA’S CORRUPT TABLE
    I’m sure all jobs have been taken Antonio, so try something else.
    *What You should be asking is “How did Chagwa obtain such wealth in a few months” when we all know he was bankrolled by dubious elements prior to steamrolling himself to P.F leader, then Republican President. Remember he used to wear poor clothes, ka bomber jacket, he wore when he was pictured eating nsima, & drinking on duty, hiding ka mosi bottle under the table.
    *What You should be asking is why is the Free press sterilised in zambia?? What does Chagwa fear?
    *What You should be asking is when are P.F officials going to pay back salaries they unlawfully got given by Chagwa. In any functioning State, that money would have been paid…

  3. Meaning: FDD has withdrawn its vote from the total gained by the opposition in the last election and given them to ECL. The net effect is that the percentage tally of ECL has grown wider than the 50.3 scored on August 11, and that of HH has dwindled, so to speak. Remember that under the current law the winner not only has to beat the runner up, but the whole pack of contenders put together. So as all losing contenders ditch the runner up, the winner cements his position. At this rate, HH’s case becomes hollow as Sinkamba, Nawakwi and co give credence to ECL’s presidency. I guess it’s time for HH to rouse himself from the nightmare, see the world in its true colors, and move on. Zikomo.

  4. It is st.upid to claim theft without providing evidence. The party of f00ls had 14 days to prove they did not fairly lose the elections but the only benefits shown was a hefty bill of legal fees in the range of 3 million kwacha and not even a single piece of evidence. Even the Mushipe hallucinations of someone voting six times was not mentioned. UPND should stop being i.diots and making very childish and s.tupid claims without evidence.

  5. I thought HH had plans to offer to the transformation of Zambia. Actually he is empty following young boy Malema.EFF . Whatever he does HH replicate it. What HH doesn’t know is the environment Malema is advancing his political career which is very different from ours in Zambia.

  6. HH and GBM Just need to grow up. It’s boring now. Time to get to work. And yes it would be nice to see these MPs resign but would they? No….

  7. YOUR NAME IS ANTONIO MWANZA. WAKUMAWA. WAKO NI WAKO. WE ARE NOT SURPRIZES TO HERE SUCH RHETORIC FROM PEOPLE LIKE YOU MWANZA. EDGAR LUNGU STOLE POWER FROM HH,UPND AND THE ZAMBIAN PEOPLE. HE DOESN’T DESERVE TO BE CALLED STATE PRESIDENT.

  8. What upnd mps are doing may be out of ignorance, fear for their god hh and outright childish. If they don’t recognise Lungu as president the best they can do is to resign because their continued stay in parliament will not serve any purpose. 1.They can not debate the budget which will be presented to parliament by a minister of finance who was appointed and sworn in by an ‘ILLEGAL’ President. 2. The minister of finance will present the budget on behalf of an ‘ILLEGAL’ president. 3. All bills which will be debated in parliament will finally land on Lungu’s desk for presidential assent. So why should they participate in making laws which will require an ‘ILLEGAL’ president to be assented to? HH should not turn a beautiful party upnd into a cult

    • Danielle,
      A thing that many people are not seeing is that if PF is left without being challenged, and you want all UPND members of parliament to resign, you are voting for a 1 party state. PF SG boasted that since they are the majority, they don’t need anyone. They will use the arrogance of numbers and change the constitution and you will see the results.
      As there actions may seem evil today, but it is worthy its salt. We Zambian have no nerve to demonstrate whenever our rights have been infringed, we only end up on talking which is very unfortunate. This has made our political leaders to take advantage and do things there way.
      It’s very saddening that we approve of things that we see are wrong especially on elections like this.

    • Hawari – Refusing to recognize a President to whom you swore an Oath of Allegiance is not smart but dumb politics, reminiscent of a worthless opposition. These actions do not fall in the category of “Checks and Balances”.

  9. It is getting very boring and irritating reading about UPND every day.I think it’s about time we ignored them completely and got on with our lives.

  10. Let the opposition say and do whatever they want.The best is for the PF to ignore them unless they break the law.

    • Yes, because they are within their rights to do what they want. Civil servants don’t always report to work, and you don’t see headlines in the media. It is Zambia you live in and not north Korea

  11. People come on just for how long are we going be talking about these little kids with no brains. Who doesn’t know the behaviour of under 5s.let UPND cry and moan till they grow up.leave them and do not answer them and don’t advice them. They will grow out of it. Kids being lead by a child what do you expect.

    • In life, your obsessions show your weaknesses. As the Bible says, what you fear is what you get. PF is afraid of HH and UPND.

  12. In a democracy, the UPND members of parliament are within the mandate given to them by the electorate who didn’t vote for ECL as president. The matter would have been settled if the Concourt had heard the petitioners. Democracy demands all sides to be heard, the constitution guarantees that all sides be heard. ….where one side is not heard is injustice. Unfortunately that is the situation Zambia finds itself in.

    • Imwe boss whom are you going to blame for the collapse of upnd petition?the 14 constitutional days had ellapsed which led to the petition collapsing,therefore,your focus should be on martha&jack mwimbu&sangwa for leaving the concourt but because of your bitterness and hh’s you want to blame ecl.mature&dont rely on the second hand info from incompetent hh.

  13. It’s their right Mwanza–anyone who thinks that Corncort court has the capacity to adjudicate on any serious matter with unqualified & compromised judges should have their heads examined – Mwanza, find time to advise the failed PF govt. to bring sanity to the economy as well as governance since your leader danced dununa with the corrupt, visionless & hopeless Lungu

  14. @Junior Changwa: Who determines when to hear the Petition? Is it the Judge, the Complainant or Defendant? It is not fair to heap the blame on the Complainant that they failed to get their petition heard within 14 days. Looking at the gravity of the petition and evidence which was to be presented, the Concourt should have sat including weekends. The Concourt itself misled the Complainant whether deliberately or out of ignorance, it’s difficult to tell,

  15. Mama Edith Nawakwi , will be a leader of this land one day. She is mature, highly intelligent, stands her ground and accepts defeat gracefully and moves on with life, she is a happy, positive political person.She has shown leadership qualities move than most leaders. And if these MPs continue to be ANTAGONISTIC under the Stern guidance of their leaders Mr. HH and GBM, then FIRE them. Their Constituencies will have nothing to lose after all they are all supports of UPND, hence they all are well CONDITIONED and are in FAVOR of this MENACING BEHAVIOUR. Am now beginning to think this is not a normal political party but it’s a CULT. How can grown up family men and women who are highly intellectual fail to Stand against the TOXIC INSTRUCTIONS OF THEIR LEADERS? Have you all developed…

  16. developed Alzheimer’s or Dementia? This disease involves memory loss and other intellectual abilities that interfere with daily life. ..

  17. All well meaningful Zambians whose vision and ambition is to see a better Zambia developing at a faster rate should stop taking HH & his UPND seriously because its a party full of jokers,envious,daylight-dreamers,and demagogues who issue inflammatory,defammatory,and derogatory statements to a majority and duly elected President.

  18. We need people to be well vest with the laws of Zambia as you contribute to this platform, not talking from out of ignorance. The thing is that , there are a lot of pathways one may present his or her grievance and all this is allowed according to the law. FDD we are aware that you have just follen short of telling LUNGU that please appoint any of our leaders as you did to Mutati. Mutati decklared his intetions earlier on and LUNGU does not see him as a threat. The rest of you are a threat. You want to fight LUNGU internally. There is an english idiom that goes like “BRING YOUR ENEMY CLOSER, SO YOU ELIMINATE HIM UNKNOWINGLY”. Did you know that most leaders who have met their fate it was through the people close to them? Too late the hero FDD. Just live in your doldrums for the next 5…

  19. UPND is a party for tongas so us voters in 6 and half provinces do not care about them!!let those upnd f00ls-mps continue with their daily nonsense and we shall see if their f00lishness will make hh president!!!whether upnd like it or not,ECL and PF will rule Zambia till 2021!!!we have all moved on with our lives,leaving upnd f00ls alone crying daily like chainama mental patients !!!COME 2021,HH WILL RECORD A 6TH LOSS!!!ONLY A F00L CAN BE REWRITING AN EXAM EVERYING YEAR USING A SAME TEACHER AND SCHOOL WHICH HAVE MADE YOU FAIL FOR 5TH TIMES!!!SO UPND WILL BE GOING INTO 2021 ELECTIONS WITH HH ON TOP AT THEIR OWN PERIL!!

  20. It really surprises me when these HH worshippers say that the Concourt should have heard they petition when they were given 14 days to present their evidence and they failed all they did was bring up preliminary issues . There has never been a change of government in Zambia s history without the support of Lusaka and Copperbelt

  21. It is like every one has some kind of allucination when HH coughs. Because when HH makes a move to the TOILET EVEN the entire so called PF starts shaking. It is very normal anyway since the chap has what it takes. HH makes mountains move and some even collupsing. So be carefull not to collupse, we have few drugs in Hospitals. Some even end up in Intensive Care Units. We do not want a repeat of such. Just live comfrtably, HH is a quiet Gentleman and has his riches in everywhere n the world, that is why you may not manage to cage him. Already after the last errands of campaign, HH is on his personal recreation errands and people are weting their pants………easy…easy guys

  22. Mr. Spokes person allegiency is to the presidency as an institution and not the incubent, and as such ECL is not the institution per se but rather a holder of instruments of power at that particular moment whether legitimately or not.Please let us not mislead people,institutions and office bearers are two different entities.

    • So ba Orzy Ardillas – When ECL was swearing your MPs he was the Presidency, but soon after that he became the President?

    • You are very right. No MP swore allegiance to Edgar Chagwa Lungu. If the courts rule that ECL was not dully elected, will the MPs be sworn in again? NO! Even the speaker can be removed and replaced, but the MPs will not be sworn in again by a new Speaker. So President and Speaker are institutions.
      Only in marriage you swear to Love and cherish you spouse. Once you spouse changes, you do it all over again wben you remarry.
      That is why MPs are not sworn in at state house.

  23. If you are a petitioner and you indicate that part of your evidence was in ballot boxes for recount to show the mismatch and request the ballots be in custody of the courts, why should the court reject?
    If you say the results annonced by ECZ on ZNBC do not tally with the final and request the court to compel ECZ and ZNBC to bring the recordings, why should the courts reject. WE CALL IT SUPPRESSION OF EVIDENCE BY THE COURTS. Those are the basis for preliminary hearings. The courts were under instructions from PF not to allow evidence. If PF had won,it would have been in their interest to allow evidence and clear their name. But they relied on the 14 days to elapse. Now they have to govern with that stigma of illegitimacy.

    • BS Joseph MULI BA PUBA. YOU DONT JUST GO TO COURT AND CALL THE SHOTS. YOU FIRST HAVE TO PROVE THAT THE UPND AGENTS WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO THE POLLING STATIONS WERE DANDER-HEADS WHO ONLY KNOW HOW TO COUNT COW DUNG. YOUR AGENTS COUNTED THE VOTES WITH EVERYONE PRESENT. YOU DONT EVEN BELIEVE YOUR OWN POLLING AGENTS. THE PROBLEM WITH UPND IS THAT YOU ARE BRAINWASHED BY YOUR GOD HH. EVEN WHEN YOU HAVE COUNTED 20 VOTES, FOR AS LONG AS GOD HH SAYS ITS NOT TRUE YOU WILL AGREE WITH HIM. IN THE PRESENCE OF OTHER INTERNATIONAL AND NATIONAL POLLING AGENTS. SURELY DO YOU EXPECT THE COURTS TO SINK SO LOW AS TO LISTEN TO EVERY WHINING FROM UPND UNDER 5s?. WHAT PRELIMINARY HEARING ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? IF THE COURT THAT IS MEANT TO LISTEN TO YOUR CASE TELLS YOU TO GET TO THE POINT, WHY WASTE TIME WITH…

  24. Ba Lutuku Presdo naimwe, chakolwa alemiteka kaili. Grow up man, up to now you have not accepted that Edgar is your Presdo, whether you like it or not he is your Presdo. Sontapo paku lusa nafuti nafuti. Come 2021 mukalusa nakaili kikikikikikiki

  25. COME TO THINK OF IT….. ACTUALLY WITHOUT UPND, POLITICS IN ZAMBIA WILL BE BORING. WE NEED SOME CHATTER BOXES TO BE ENTERTAINING US WITH POLITICAL NOISE. WHAT WILL BE WRONG IS TO TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY. ACTUALLY THEY MIGHT US WELL REFUSE TO ACCEPT ECL FOR EVER, AND EVER TILL HEAVEN COMES. AS MICHEL OBAMA SAID, “AS THEY GO LOWER, WE WILL GO HIGHER”. SO LET THEM CRY THEIR LUNGS OUT. WE SHALL BE ENTERTAINED. LETS PREPARE FOR ANOTHER DUNUNA IN 2021. INFACT THEY SHOULD FEATURE KALUSA HH IN 2021 AGAIN. LET THEM CONTINUE CHASING PHANTOMS IN ECZ TRUCKS. KIKIKIKI

  26. Ozy- it appears u don’t understand PF & Edgar Chagwa – Edgar is equal to the constitution, rule of law, instruments of power & to add on to this – he is Mr Clueless, Corruption, evil – that’s what Edgar is – above everything under the sun & with the seemingly support he gets from the people he has managed to deceive & manipulate – we won’t be surprised that he might one day declare himself the ‘god’ of Zambia…to some of us he is however an outright criminal…period

  27. Whatever you would like him to b I don’t support hurling insults!This let’s share ideas with maturity and respect especially to elders.I’m sure he deserves a respectable description being a father and at the helm of this country.I. Personally don’t agree with the post election drama that characterised this country inc. Concourt mayhem,but one thing is for sure,this nation needs prayers!

  28. Kikikiki ati until 2021 kulusa again. They will cry foul forever. Ecl is president and they will lose to the next one as long as hh is at the helm of Upnd. Unless the guys in diaspora wiping old aged residents butts come to vote then he would win.

    • You are abroad yourself so stop yapping rubbish. UTH staff never bathe their patients and you wonder why Zambia has cross infection in hospitals? Go and clean bottoms

  29. Every sensible and sober mind knows the MPs are acting on HH directive. The MPs won on UPND ticket in the constituencies they represent, and simple logic would tell that the majority in the constituencies UPND won voted for HH; however, it is not logical and sensible to assume that the majority in constituencies where PF or MMD won also voted for HH. Crying under the disguise of smoke will not help UPND. Just accept the fact.

    • Go back and read civics, education is a knowledge builder which PF supporters lack. PF live in Hutu and Tutsi land they are full of hate

  30. In Zambia, Tonga people could be likened to Hutus. We thank God that they are not the majority. They have risen against any person who associates with Bemba speaking people.
    The Lundas from North Western are their cousins. The Lundas from Luapula are their enemies because they speak Bemba.

    This kind of hatrade is dangerous and has potential to bring Rwanda closer to us.

    18th October is a good day for reconciliation but for UPND, It is almost a practical impossibility
    GOD HELP US

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