Collins Mbesuma will not be part of Zambia for this weekend’s trip to face Swaziland in the two teams 2010 World Cup Group 11 qualifier this weekend.
Herve Renard shut the door on Mbesuma today after the club-less striker failed to turn up on deadline date, Monday that the Frenchman set for all foreign-based players to report for training camp in Lusaka.
Mbesuma’s international future in the short-term under Renard is unclear after Mondays no-show and failure by the striker to send word over his availability for this Sundays away clash to Swaziland.
Mbesuma has previously played for Bursaspor in Turkey, who terminated his contract just one season into a 3-year deal due to poor fitness, Kaizer Chiefs in South Africa, English side Portsmouth and Roan United in Zambia where he began his career.
Zambia meanwhile are expected to leave for Swaziland on Thursday ahead of Sunday’s game to be played in Manzini.
Swaziland currently lead Group 11 on the same number of points as Togo but with a better goal difference after they defeated the latter 2-1 in Manzini on Sunday.
Zambia are bottom of the three-team group after losing 1-0 away to Togo on May 31 in Accra, Ghana.
Weekend Scorecard
2010 World/Africa Cup Group 11 Qualifier
08/06/2008
Manzini
Swaziland 2(Siza Dlamini 55″, Collen Salelwako 72″)- Togo 1(Adekamni Olufade 88′”)
Faz Premier League
Week 12
07/06/2008
City of Lusaka 1(Derrick Mulenga 15″) – Zesco United 0
Zanaco 2(Winston Kalengo 29″, Chisamba Lungu 33″)- Nkwazi 0
Red Arrows 2(Stanley Banda 30″, Chisi Mbewe 68″)- Konkola Blades 0
Roan United 2(Kelvin Mumba 68″, Derrick Kabwe 86″) – Young Arrows 1(Kruger Mwansa 51″)
Nkana 0- Green Buffaloes 2( Reuben Tembo 15″, Sebastain Mwansa 64″)
Chambishi 0 – Power Dynamos 2 (Francis Kombe 20″, Lameck Mwale 53″)
Green Eagles 0- Kabwe Warriors 1(Emmanuel Mayuka 60″)
Nchanga Rangers 2(MathewsMacha 47″, Elijah Tana 82″)- Lusaka Dynamos 1(Hichani Himoonde 68″)
Top Scorers
After games Played 08/06/2008
LEAGUE, INTL & CUP:
Roger Kola (Zanaco): 8
Emmanuel Mayuka (Kabwe Warriors): 8
Reuben Tembo (Green Buffaloes):7
Francis Kombe (Power Dynamos): 7
Mathew Macha (Nchanga Rangers): 6
Kruger Mwansa (Young Arrows) : 5
Obrey Zulu (Green Eagles): 5
Kelvin Mumba (Roan United): 4
Chileshe Kabwe (Konkola Blades): 4
Faz Division 1 League
North
Week 13
Mufulira Wanderers 1- Afrisport 0
Zamtel 3 – Mufulira Blackpool 0
Kalewa 1 -Ndola United 0
Tazara Express 3- Prison Leopards 1
Lime Hotspurs 1- Mining Rangers 1
Chindwin 1-Forest Rangers 0
Kitwe United 1-Medical Stars 0
Muchindu 1- Indeni 0
Week 14
South
Builder Brigade 1Kambuku 1
Zamcoal Diggers 0-Nampundwe 0
Mazabuka United 2-Lusaka City Council 0
Lusaka Tigers 0 Nakambala Leopards 0
Young Buffaloes 1 Livingstone Pirates2
Kalomo Jetters 0 Rifilemen 1
National Assembly 3 Chilanga Heroes 0
Young Eagles 0 Profund Warriors 0
Lusaka Celtic- Petauke United (Not Played).
He asked for it!
let him be, after all he is too fat!
he cant make it, lets use the players available and stop crying over that finished chap. ala
I’m not sure if he was expected to be fit in two weeks since he was last rejected in Ghana for the Togo Match.He did well to stay away as the headlines would have been ‘Mbesuma sent away again!
He is a very indisciplined human being. He must never be called. Lack of education is his major enermy.
Mbesuma did the right thing by not reporting or sending word.Mbesuma is an intelligent guy.Your new coach is to blame for having released what ever they talked aboutwith Collins to the public.There was no need for (french guy)him to come out in public and talk like that,he should not forget that Mbesuma is not only a professional footballer but a star.I hope next time the French guy will know how to handle situations involving his players or he might end up damaging them,we love our players in thick and thin.
please mr choma i agree with you and you have the words. i give you respect and this how we should be submitting some of our comments.
i think this new coach has gone too far.Why should he be releasing all information,some info must be between him and the player but it sems his guy is too media frenzy.ba coach dont talk too much we need results from u.We lost to Togo and Swaziland beat Togo so this coming game will be tough.The Swazis are no longer under dogs.
A lot of people on this blog tend to post their views without critcal analysis of issues. A week ago Mbesuma was told to ‘lose weight’ because -according to the coach and most bloggers- he is too fat. Does the coach expect Mbesuma to have lost weight already? How about his feelings after being told he was fat and must lose weight? As #4 and #6 rightly pointed out, the coach has to be tactical when dealing with players, whether in terms of skill, physical or emotional development. On this one, the coach failed and the blame should not be on Mbesuma. I appreciate that the boy has to improve in terms of discipline but I think he did the right thing this time!
Mbesuma should have reported to camp more so that he is clubless and the staff at the national team can help him lose weight. Pomposity will never take him anywhere. Anywhere in the world players humble themselves before their coaches.
Faz engaged a physical trainer recently. Mbesuma should have taken advantage of this man’s presence. By staying away he is not doing anyone, including himself a favour
Its true Choma 1 u are 100percent right. Our coach is not mature in terms of management matters. He discussed with Mbesuma and he decided to air all that he dicussed with Mbesuma. This is bad! If we lose to Swaziland let him go back and teach PE in france
It is not Renard that needs to get fit but mbesuma. So if mbesuma is protesting then let him hang!
If Mbesuma is indeed upset for bing asked to trim down and get fit, then that just shows why he is having problems in his professional career. It is in Mbesuma’s interest to show commitment and willingness to work with the coach and get back in shape especially now that he is clubless. He has lost passion to play for the national team because he can’t face the challenge from Mayuka, Kola, Chamanga and others. Let him sort out his personal issues. We don’t need players with divided attention.Let’s not blame the coach, Alan Perin had the same problem with him at Portsmouth. He needs to change his attitude to revive his career. We have seen so many like him go to waste Emma Zulu case in point.
I listened to people cry for the inclusion of Moses Sichone and Andrew Sinkala. These players having played in Europe for a long time have never shown the discipline and commitment to the Zambian cause. Unlike Kalusha who showed both his career without doubt was one of the best you could ever admire. It is sad that Mbesuma appears to convince us that he too could be counted on.
we needed him to help cris katongo,the swazi team know him also as tonfo tonfo just like south africans do,he plays well in his fat state,learn to accept beings as they are, mbesuma scores though he is fat than thin players the coach is using,i think football is about scoring regardless of fat or thin,zambia will regret without him,south africans had nothing to worry of his weight and he proved a point for them.mbesuma has been fat ever since,and played for zed in his fat state,and will alwaz be fat and skilled.
he is finished now just like that.I believe alot looked forward to seeing him perform as the once tonfo.If he knew that he could make it,he wouldn´t have just given up at this moment.Maybe even he himself knows that he wouldn´t have made it.Otherwise tonfo man show up atleast somewhere there cos we getting worried.Go Zambia with or without………we can do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you LT bloggers have lost the plot with the Mbesuma issue. Whether or not he would have been picked for the game at Swazi is irrelevant. The point is to show commitment to the team and the cause, which is to qualify for the 2010 tournaments. His presence in the team is psychologically important to the less experienced players and I think Coach Renard has every right to drop a man who refuses to be part of the team. The same goes for any other so called “professional..” I believe Chris Katongo is the best striker Zambia has and the best possible candidate for captain we’ve had for a long time.
support the coach and not has beens. The dog wags the tail.. the tail doesn’t wag the dog.
Loads of football sympathisers on this blog-you would do well not to comment on things you know little or nothing about. All the best to the boys this weekend.
Italy are being ripped apart!!!
That chap mbesuma deserves to be dropped. Despite his fatness the coach still extended an olive branch and called him to camp, because he believed he could help him. Mbesuma decided against reporting to camp because he knows its over for him, he has failed 2 compete against mayuka and co. Tsunami is the best we have.
Romania 3 4mer world champs 0. ok pipo. i dont blame the coach 4 telin the media abt the chat he had wth collins ko a spade a spade. the boy has gaind weight n finds it difikot 2 turn in the field of play. wen runing 4ward he looks like hes reversin. how can he gain by 15kg withn a yr? hell no he has been gven chance bt he doesnt want. how can he b awol. soka is a short term career he wud hav obeyd coach by bein in camp. we wil play wthout him like we played wthout tana ku ghana. go zed go.
20# Italy fluked the world championship by being given a penalty that was’nt in the 1/4 finals.
Swaziland 3 zambia 1.
Renard should do his work on the pitch and not with the media. We lost to a team that was not organised at a nutral ground, and I am sure PP would have produced a better result. He is complaining about the defence, strikers and midfielder and yet he does not want to add a few players that have experience like tana, sichone and sinkala. If we loose to Swaziland FAZ must get rid of this guy. What he must do now is to work very hard with the team and not discusing players with the media.
Mbesuma should not be discused at any level becuase he is not fit and I wonder why he was included in the team.
Ya, if we lose to swazi, to me it means our coach has failed in his first asigment to take zed to world cup and africa cup. Then he must definately go bcoz he will just be chewing our dollars 4mahala. We need gud results not complaints about team balance.
Sorry guys mbesuma infact was not dropped. Instead mbesuma did report 4 camp.how do u drop someone who is not in camp and he do want to join camp bcoz he is busy sorting his new out the club issues? Zedians let us becareful with this coach.pp was better.
luk at the standard of play exhibited against Togo it was below average.long balls we heard against iran its wat we saw in Togo game. Is he teaching the boys on setting pieces or long balls without gud short passes? he didnt include tana,moses and sinkala
Haha Ba Mbesuma Ba Fwita…
am starting to wander how many people actuallly read what other
Sporting websites put on there sites..
most coaches straight out say if a player is Lacking match fitness
and what not..Mbesuma shouldnt be exempted… Honestly whose
Loss is if Mbesuma wont Man Up and Accept the Fact that you
can’t play soccer of ur Fat…
haha and you people are already Callin for the Coaches Head..
i Love it…
Wachoka ku Kaizer Chiefs, wayenda ku Portsmouth…Wamwa kachasu, kusiya Mosi… chakolwa! Waona manje! Chakolwa! Waona manje! Chakolwa! Waoooona manjeeee, wayamba kulila….
we are better off without his ass he failed us at the Africa cup of nations
#27, Stanley mwati uli normal bululu?
Raul, Inzaghi and Cisse are not at Euro 2008 because they’re not match-fit, past their prime or have no place in the managers’ gameplan. Don’t speak for Collins Mbesuma or the coach.
Maz-dumbo. Was. Dropped.
Not because he didn’t turn up to camp but simply because the fat badger is a maz-dumbo. Remit this fact to NAPSA and save it as your pension!!
#6 well said . I also don’t like his conduct about their conversation being made public. I sense he is insecure, he does not want to be blamed at the end of the day for not featuring Mbesuma.
I have to give to Collins I dont care what anyone says he is right to stay away he was rudiculed at the least he has shown he has some pride!!
#6 well said . I also don’t like his conduct about their conversation being made public. I sense he is insecure, he does not want to be blamed at the end of the day for not featuring Mbesuma.
I have to give it to Collins , I dont care what anyone says he is right to stay away, he was rudiculed he has shown some pride!! Noti Muzungu Anikonde .
Whether the Coach went too far by releasing information or not, ultimately it is Mbesuma’s career at stake. Whether we like it or not, Mbesuma, along with many other Zambian players need to work on their discipline. For a long time you have players showing up when they want to and have had personal to holder positions in the national team..this is a problem. This desparately needs to change if we have to get Zambian football to where it was. For those who are too proud to be disciplined….PRIDE COMES BEFORE A BIG FALL!!!!!!
The chances of zambia beating swaziland are slim pertaining to what is happening in camp at Lusaka hotel. It is reported that these guys are busy heavy bozzing everytime they come from training and apparently it looks like there is no camp manager coz if there was one Clifford mulenga couldnt’ve been allowed to be staying with Mampi whilst in camp. It looks like players know that they can do anything stupid but at the end of the day they risk nothing as you still go back to them as in the case of Mbesuma who has actually turned down the offer. In otherwords there is no displine amongst our zambian players if anything it would’ve been better to engage a psychologist that a physical trainer.
ba mudala ba mbesuma chabashani kanshi.
Apa chilemoneka kwati Morientes Mbesuma akachula sana. Wishi ubufontini bwachilamo.
I would like to agree with Black Feet #29,Some people are surprised that the coach talked about Mbesuma’s fitness in the media.It’s a World wide trend that the coach can talk about a players fitness to the media.What is personal about a players fitness? When Capello took over as England coach he refused to play Beckam in his first game incharge he said the guy was not fit,that was when the MLS was on off season and the guy had just recovered from injury. Like Black Feet Says we read these things but when it comes to our team we want to apply different rules.
Unless the coach had spoken about Mbesuma’s family issues then maybe it would be a different story.
Mbesuma is stupid, Adriano had the same weight problems, Milan released to go back to Brazil and sort himself out, today Adriano is back in the national team. Lack of education and growing up without a father a Mbesuma’s problems.
Good for Mbesuma let him take a rest and why not take a leaf from Maradona and add more kilos if he wishes. #39 true a player’s fitness should be public knowledge, if the coach had disclosed that Mbesuma has a mental problem, that would have been different. And what discussion did he have in private which this guy has devulged?
#40 eductaion has nothing to do with it, tell me what certificates did Gibby Mbasela and Gentile (Kapambwe Mulenga) have? This guy has many more problems I think than what meets the eye!
Just like the coach has put it, we have problems with many African players. Reporting late for camp is a disease amoung African players. Mbesuma is anoyed cause he did not play, even PP dropped him, in Turkey he never played cause of fitness. The fact is tompwe muli Mbesuma tamwaba. Nangu ku SA aka filwa uku teya
Chi-mbesuma is useless chap who never learns and does not take advise serious. You should not be blaming renard for droping this chap. Will do it without the fat boy ho ho ho ho….!!
Mbesuma needs to behave as a professional to be treated like one. I may not like the PE coach but let’s not play names for the sake of it. We may have a guy who may not be as skillful as Mbesuma but ‘fit’ to play for 90 plus minus, that’s the guy. If you want name… Kalu should play also!!. Hence by dropping Mbesuma from the Swazi game, the coach is infact helping Mbesuma to sort out a few issues including fitness.
Someone should also upload the premier league table and division one table,that would be really nice. Mbesuma’s attitude clearly goes to show why he failed to make it on the big stage,he’s not disciplined like most talented zambian players that have come thru the ranks,very unfortunate.
Sometimes players need to swallow their pride and that is one thing Mbesuma has clearly not shown. He has not given any respect or committement to the Game. All he should have done is follow whatever the coach said even though chinamubaba and proved himself instead he is acting so childish. With his kind of behaviour he will not go anywhere.
leave me alone i know what i,m doing.
leave the coach alone .it is too early to blame him.
let us make predictions now
zambia 4 swaziland 1
swazi here we come
The guy was unfit a week ago,it is unrealistic and unfair to expect him to make miraculous improvement in the time availabe.Please leave him alone and let him recover in peace.
Mbesuma ali pwa, he will never recover at all. What happened to Perry Mutapa, Emmanuel Zulu etc, it will be the same issue with ba Mbesuma. If he goes back to Chiefs it will worse cause the pressure will on him to deliver
When is Mayuka going to Portugal???
Pipo, I maintain Mbesuma’s problems are growing up with a father figure and lack of education (I do not mean going to UNZA) but a simple understanding that a football career is short. Have ever heard of David Beckham being indisplined despite his riches or Thiery Henry? Why do these millionaires show up at training everyday? They are richer than Mbesuma-Displine.
Pliz give the coach a break! u advise your Mbesuma to try SUMO WRESTLING.
we hope peter will not blog with his unwise comment.we hate his article he is posting each time.it seams he is not innovative.young man this site is reserved for wise comments only.DONT make us track you down.
With all respect thank you
football is nice i love it.
all the best
Times of Zambia headline 16th June 2008-Spotrs Page
Minows Swaziland national team outclasssed Zambians and humiliated the chipolopolo bys by three goes to nil.The new coach has been fired with immediate effect and Mbesuma has been recalled to beef-up the squad.
you bloggers are foolish,jst concetrate on yo lives if you dont have comments that will build someone,once again you are all fools
Look the chap failed proffessionally, all you guys calling for the Coach to be sacked are biased. The Coach is in charge and not Mbesuma. #6 we are not living in a socialist state, the public have the right to know what is going on with the players, so the coach has the right to inform us, the media is part of his tool to enlighten us on the situation with the team, if all is shrouded in secrecy then how can we know and understand what’s going on with our team. don’t forget not all Zambians live in Zambia, so the media is the only tool people living outside home (Zambia) can access to learn what is happening about the national team.
I remember Tana’s comment in the Post, after returning from AFCON “Saying he will only speak if FAZ gives him the green light”, What crap! We have so much fear and respect, how can an individual Adult be told when to speak.
Freedom of Expression should be encouraged. This is what we are all doing on this Blog
ok. There is no problem with Renard discusing footbal matter concerning his players and the team.
What happens if Zambia loose to Swaziland???
Included Mbesuma in team will not improve performance. My predication Zambia 3-Swaziland-1.
mwebantu mbesuma has a problem !! traditionally looking at his behaviour awee balimulowa uyu muntu! where does he stay in luanshya ? may the neighbours and friends to the mother or even the mayor, town clerk, DC and MP of Roan/ Luanshya sit Mbesuma down and talk to him. Mwebafyashi banomba umwana wamunenu ngaleluba kumuteka panshi!!!! where is Litana, Wawa Chongo, Joe Bwalya!!!!!!!!! Mbesuma mwaiche wandi nakupapata tapabulwa twalikwebele. Mbesuma do you know Paul Gascoine? Pliz tell Mbesuma whats happening to Gascoine? AS FOR # 36 PROVE YOUR STATEMENTS ABOUT CAMPING CONDUCT.
I think now pipo have believed what I say that mbesuma is finished, stupid, and should follow Litana and Wawa. Please govt assit mbesuma by giving him a garden so that he can start cultivating pumpkins there.
Dont worry, he is just taking some french lessons. Needs it to understand what this new fellow is saying
my prediction Zambia 1 Swaziland 3.Painful but its the reality lets face it.
Mbesuma will end up just like other Zambian sportmen we know. Destitutes i.e. Alijah Litana – he is currently drinking amantalakwa ku kwa ba Shibuchinga in Ndola rural, Wawa Chongo – he is in Mufurila and he is mostly found in old garages lobbying for chibuku and kaponda to smoke and the late Geofrey Mulenga who died very poor in Kasompe Chingola despite playing football in Belgium for many years.
Who is going to suffer,is it the coach or Mbesuma??
#68 grow up man, choose an appropriate name.
Mbesuma’s rise to fame was just a fluke. He will never rise again. He has jsut followed a path of many Zambian players who’ve been failures in life.
Fat boys need love too
Fat Albert try the movie industry.After all,children
love that cartoon movie.
#64…It was actually reported on Radio Phoenix this morning that players are spending time in the bar after training and that Clifford Mulenga is always with Mampi at the hotel. So i hope FAZ does something about this
#73,players are human beings too. They are entitled to basic needs, so leave them alone.
Ahh mudala, this guy knew he was just gonna be adding up international caps on the bench….
Mbesuma should go for counseling. Too much Chibuku.
The issue is with the coach and not Mbesuma. Mbesuma is setting up this guy for an early exit. Let Zambia lose by a goal to Swaziland. The coach goes back to France. Mbesuma’s weight is not an issue, but can this coach make him fit and play? Ailton despite his bigger size was fit and a goal getter. He was the top scorer in the Bundesliga for some years. If Mbesuma is able to get only two goals for Zambia, that will change the game. Asking Mbesuma to lose his weight is not the solution. Make him lose his weight. Mbesuma has a gene of Kajiya. Kajiya was never small but fitness made Kajiya tick.
I partly agree with Kalos2020, there have been ‘bigger’ players who have made it. The ‘Yak’ at Everton (Yakubu) is one player who is ‘fatter’ than Mbesuma, yet the coach does not go about making news on the player’s weight. What Mbesuma is support. How a coach approaches a player in their first meeting can build or end a player’s motivation. We all know the boy’s lack of discipline, but what psychological effect did the coach’s first ‘reaction’ have on Mbesuma?
Mbesuma should go back to Kaiser Chiefs and start again from scratch, regain his form and confidence. I don’t think he can help at this point in time and maybe he knows this.
Regain your self esteem slowly but surely big man. No one is against you, but no one wants to see their hero not take care of themselves. Look at the where Paul Gascoigne is at point, mentally unstable and alcoholic. Only he can save himself.
It’s ok if you like to drink and party, but if you are an athlete, or anyone, you have to do so in moderation. Mbesuma needs to open and tell the coach and the press what his position is, because people have just been led to assume all sorts of things. I think what the coach said to him was very fair to him and to the other players.
Mbesuma, be open, let go of all your katundu, get yourself back on track.
Is it too late for Mbesuma to head of to the *MUKANDA CEREMONY*..??
as i keep sayin to all those people who are asking to fire the
Coach if we lose to swaziland..he will get a Job else where and
we will still be waiting for the AFCON to be Paraded Mu Cario Road since 19chakuti
Easy mwe bantu bo ta twe…Keep the Coach and the players..
and from my point of view Mbesuma doesnt even have any Pride to
swallow..
One other thing is why do zambian players rush into becoming
professionals * Ba JAMES CHAMANGA.. KU CHINA SURE…ATASE* i
think he was Better of at morroka swallows
thats why we will never improve
how does EBOUE go straight from ASEC ABIDJAN TO ARSERNAL
Forget about mbesuna. He is a finished fellow. Where on earth would someone involved in a sport like soccer would be spending his time at Mcdonalds instead of being in the GYM? Sports is about healthy eating habits. Mbesuna is done!!!!!!!!
Zambian soccer players the spend too much time showing off when they play in South African league whilst there friends are busy working had to play in the Premier League. You should be lookng up to the likes of Ronald, Adebayo. Look at mc cathy, why is he not playing in South African League? He opted to play in England whilst you are struggling to play in RSA. The reason is, to much LUTUKU, IMBAMBA, SHAKE SHAKE na maule nga mwawina. To make matters worse you now have cheaper prostitutes from Zimbabwe.
yamuyazi is very correet,zambian players so much into shake shake and prostitutes.we will never improve as long as Zambia breweries continue producing beer. I propose a serious counselling programs for our players.
pliz God help us. How we love soccer in Zambia!
Anyone who has seen the players actually misbehaving while in camp as stated by #36? Plesas shade some light. In other countries a player who breaks a curfew when in camp is dropped. Fitness is always compromised by bad behaviour in camp. Those of you in Lusaka please shade some light on this.
ba mbesuma awe shikulu tata
mwamona, all you had to do is train and work hard to prove peopple that u can do it. instead decide to no show up for training.
if i was coach i would do the same, i dont care if player has an impressive CV or expensive player. U just have to prove yourself on the pitch period.
*****!!!!
One thing which seems to be lost in this Mbesuma opinions is the fact that he had knee athroscopic surgery. I don’t think he has recovered 100 % and his agents can not say it as this is bad for Business. I recall my favourite great Zambian midfeilder Jericho Shinde was history after knee issues. There is no way Mbesuma who is trying to get on a ship would behave like this. It has limited his time to train hence his a madumbo.
Bane any positives, Should FAZ institute a commitee to take care of players pro terms or maybe start a pension scheme for every registered FAZ Player?
I think it is about time for a players union!!
Prediction Zambia 2 Swazi o
Mbuzi #87 I like your later suggestions on a Pension Scheme or something.
I have read all the theories/suggestions/comments that a lot of you guys have put forth. I’m very disappointed at most of them coz they’ve concentrated so much on Mbesuma’s weight, as opposed to his football skill. Brazilian Ronaldo was voted footballer of the year in 2002 when he was actually experiencing major weight/knee problems? What do you think was the main reason for his inclusion in the Brazilian squad? Was it not coz of his outstanding CV? Why then should we, Zambians, together with this so-called Coach, make Mbesuma’s weight a major issue? Mbesuma has done a lot for Zambia, let’s just give the young man all the support that he needs.
Yes chimwemwe, he needs support but he also behave. He has a part to play.
u country men surprise most times, u cant c that mbesuma, tana, moses sichone r all finished guys!!
Mbesuma is finished. Period. Wether fat or slim, he is finished. In fact the French man is just trying to be diplomatic. What he means is that the chap is finished. Forget about him lets move on. Whether we lose or win lets forget about him. What kind of person cant take criticism. What a career. From peak it takes an exponential nose dive. Can u imagine; Portsmouth->Maritimo->Bursaspor ->Clubless. Thats what we call F.I.N.I.S.H.E.D. -Zero. So all you bloggers get that sunk in your heads you understand. If u still cant understand I repeat, F.I.N.I.S.H.E.D-Zero. U still having problems understanding? Tell your friend to read it for until your understand.
Mbesuma is done in terms of playing active soccer. I don’t see him making it elsewhere except in Zambian league. Sorry Mbesuma worshipers, your boy is done period!!
#89
its nice u try to be positive, but like the realist said he is finished so try to understand it or put it in your head.
sorry man but it is the truth. f.i.n.i.s.h.e.d!!!!!
#69. I fully support you. #68, please lets be mature with what we do. U can’t use such a name in public. It reflect on the kind of person you are. Even if you are making sensible suggestions, no one will take you seriously cause it will look like u are insulting everyone. So please lets be mature as we discuss issues and lets use proper names and not insults or insele.
Guys Just look at his (Mbesuma) professional history, Tried out at Bolton (Failed). Perrin brought him to Portsmouth, but there too he could not make the team, Shifted to Maritimo where I thought he would redeem himself, again nothing, at Bursaspor he signs a three year contract, it’s terminated with less than a year. Now come on guys are you telling me with all these chances there is nothing wrong here. Some of you are still dreaming about his hey days. He’s had an injury and curtailed by indisciplined you see a player who is low on confidence or just can’t be bothered, he’s enjoying the thousands of Euros he was paid for having his ass on the bench or reserves.
Any way good luck to him.
Bane Kwena I tend to strongly agree with ba Black Feet on the matter of Zambian players rushing into playing outside when they are still premature.Personally I think this could be one particular reason why we don’t have Zambian players in big clubs like Arsernal or Manchester.The fact is that when they go into that professionalism they fail to get used to the top level football and they immediately get finished and thrown back home.The good examples are Gift Kampamba and our Mbesuma.
#68, shame on you. You’re not fit to be a Zambian for no rational Zedian can use such language in public media except for kaponyas or are you a chief of kaponyas and who on earth gave you the computer to insult on.
Mbesuma drops himself, how do you expect someone absent to be in the team.he nkows he can’t perform even when ginev the chance , so the best he can do is to be away and hope we simpthasie with him.
Mbesuma is nothing but a finished chap. Other players must eptomise from his demise and learn to be disciplined so that they dont fall into similar situation. Let Mbseuma Hang!!
Well!,Check the post paper for 09th June 2008,Mbesuma looks like a boy from the street? He’s finished let him go back in the Gym and reduce weight.He cannot perform any more, well done new coach
Like it or not, Mbesuma should show respect to his employers (Tax payers) by committing himself to his trade. Football has made a lot of people lead confortable lives whilst others who thought they were invisible are regreting and languishing with their famillies in misery. Mbesuma needs to learn from the likes of Wawa, Elijah etal and put in his best to stay fit especially that he can not lean on his academics if his career comes to a sudden end as is most likely. Lets all help him. Its not abt the coach, teh guy is unfit and he doesnt even care. Only medical records would be treated confidential and not fitness or lack of it. When we complain its bcoz we love him and would hate seeing poor
mbesuma was chased away from pompey because he wrote on the lockers ‘mbesuma was here’
PVrbHL comment2 ,
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