This weekend, the leading presidential contenders, PF candidate Edgar Lungu and UPND candidate Hakainde Hichilema, in the coming by-election slated for 20th January addressed the vexing problem of youth unemployment. Edgar Lungu tackled the issue during his address in Kitwe, while Mr Hichilema addressed the problem through a media statement.
What the Youth had to say
Below is the Presidential candidates take on Youth Unemployment
PF Candidate Edgar Lungu
Unemployment- This is the biggest crisis we have as a country as many of our young people remain unemployed. We have to build on programs that we started that create jobs especially our initiatives to create new industries in rural areas that harness our potential and add value to our products.
Priotise the setting up of new manufacturing industries in each of the 10 provinces from textiles, food processing, straw processing, toy manufacturing, mineral processing and many others.
Private sector- we have to promote a thriving and successful private sector. But my concerns regard our local contractors and suppliers. We have not empowered them enough. We have to ensure that our local contractors grow significantly by giving them big jobs.
We recently gave over 200 Zambian contractors to build infrastructure in the new 30 districts. This is as it should be.
The mines here, should begin to give local contractors and suppliers bigger opportunities than rely upon foreign suppliers. Foreign contractors should be made to partner with Zambians.
Local Zambian companies and individuals must get involved in the ownership of mines. We should not be workers, but also mine owners. Where are the Patrick Motsepes? The Cyril Ramaphosas of Zambia? We should have our own mining magnates. This only possible if Government supports our small scale miners.
We must ensure that mine houses should negotiate with government before any retrenchment of workers is done. This to foster job security in the industry.
I am aware that despite the presence of local skills, we have expatriate workers. We must give priority to our local people with requisite skills.
Both old and new mines should provide quality jobs and avoid short and poor contractual jobs. The mines should recommit to developing real and visible social and sporting facilities. They should consider other areas such as street lighting and light-road maintainance.
Empowerment initiatives- this one of the important means to reduce unemployment. We have to empower our young people with skills and opportunities so that they can help themselves and also employ others.
UPND Candidate Hakainde Hichilema
We heard last week how Zambia has 28% youth unemployment from the international NGO Junior Achievement. Sadly this does not come as much of a surprise and unless Government does something about it then the prospects of reducing this are low.
Job creation is one of my top priorities if elected President. Now I want to provide some explanation about how I hope to achieve that.
There are two main reasons why people don’t have jobs, one is that there aren’t enough jobs and the other is that we are not providing our children and youths with the right education and skills training so that they can get a job. We must address both these reasons.
My approach will be centred on 1. Good economic management, 2.Youth Empowerment, and 3. Education and training reform.
Firstly, good economic management is fundamental to job creation. This means no more reckless borrowing and no more waste. It also means introducing policies that incentivise the growth of local businesses and encourage investment. This will lead to more jobs being created, and increased government revenues that we can then invest in education and training.
Secondly, I want to focus on youth empowerment. We need to empower those with business ideas to go out there and make them happen. This means providing support through increasing access to relevant training and affordable credit.
Thirdly, we need to revisit the school curriculum and review training opportunities on offer to youths so that they have the right skills to find work or start in business by the time they leave school or university. This process will take a long time to finish but we can get started in January 2015.
Finally, I want to stress that we must work towards a situation where all Zambians, regardless of their gender or tribe have the same opportunities available to them in terms of education and training. Job vacancies must be filled according to merit and using open procedures.
The challenge ahead of us should not be underestimated, but if we come together and rally behind this approach I believe we can make a difference.
edgar is the man. HH is in the category of mile sampa, dreamers!
From the two statements one can tell with certainty who has a clear and focused program on tackling unemployment in general and youth unemployment in particular.
while HH is busy waffling and flimflamming Edgar has a clear well laid out plan.
Edgar’s plan incorporates both short term and long term ideas
we want workable plans not experiments
Edgar is the man
I see why some bloggers call him under five, can any UPND suppoter tell what he ha understood from these promises??
We kno one person cant be good in all secters but HH wants to show like he will tackle everything, its impossible, show people where your strengh.
Why should one vote for EL?,
while, its simple, he has already shown what he wants to archiev or what he thinks he is capable,
Industries, which am sure alot of zambian engineers living abroad with a bit of capital and support from the gvt will be able to come back.Invest and move on, People, its PF with someone we have been missing.
EL is lost in the PF jungle. He is a man without direction.
Haters will hate, even when they know for sure that EL is far better than HH,
remember future depends on the decisions you make today, so make a wiser decisions to favour your future generations to come.
I have said enough, see you on 21th January.Rember EL.
Thank you
HH makes sense! Anyone who can recognize that education plays an important role in tackling youth unemployment has a good head on his shoulders.You can build manufacturing companies but you need educated peeople to be able to run them as well as innovate. Malaysia and Zambia were at the same level in 1964 ,however Malaysia today is doing very well because it recognized the importance of education as far back as the 60s and 70s.
HH 1:0EL
Buti ulichipuba sana iwe…. Very dull and disgusting Zambian.. Surely can you get something from the rubbish in Edgar Lungu’s statement? Beniko serious ama Zambians.. HH is the real deal here.. It’s now or you continue suffering with deep rooted underdevelopment and poverty…
False Promises!!
If HH is really serious of what he is saying on job creation, he should first tell Zambians what they did during the privatisation of companies where a lot of people lost jobs.
He should not be playing the good boy now just because he is lobbying for votes. There is nothing new he is going to bring. If he wins he will get stuck without even knowing what to do and where to start from. He is one of those people who squandered funds from the privatisation process and this is the same money he has continued to enjoy while Zambians he is cheating are still suffering up to now.
Zambians be careful and stop experimenting. Allow PF to finish the term by voting Hon. Edgar Lungu as he will simply continue with the programmes they have started. He knows all of them.
Honestly, if Zambians see Edgar Lungu as Presidential material, a guy whose past is dented with theft and alcoholic, then thank God my children are American.
I can now conclude that Zambia has no ability to vote for quality leaders. How do you raise your children in a country where people have no ability to identify individuals with leadership credentials.
There is just something wrong with Zambia!
Looking at the comments, i understand why Zambia is so backward. We are not content to detail. if you read the two responses, of-course, HH has a better approach than what Edgar said, which more of Adhoc and do as it comes. there is no clear strategy but talking about manufactures. That alone will not create Jobs.
Please Zambians get serious?? you mean you don’t understand that we now have automated / robotic manufacturing with less Human dependance??
Ask yourselves questions if what PF are writing / promising is true in these modern times.
unless you want to do things the old fashioned way to mean your produce will be of low standards.
Get serious and comments with facts than emotions.
PF have failed you and will be f.oolish to vote for them.
Your Edgar is not healthy. we all saw yesterday. no more dying sitting presidents. no more medical tourism. that money can be spent on youth developmental projects.
The clip showing people complaining about PF ‘s poor record above sums all what PF is all about.
Lungu talks about all the rubbish what PF will do but nothing on how he will achieve his aims. Its been three years the youth in the clip are complaining that even their PF MP is ashamed to face them over the PF’s lies.
Verdict:
Lungu and PF know WHAT needs to be done but have no clue HOW to achieve it.
HH is talking about both what do and how to achieve the means to reduce unemployment. He talks about skills, through free education , affordable credit to support entrepreneurs to expand their operations and employ more people.
Verdict.
HH knows both WHAT needs to be done and HOW to get it done. This is what separates him from the rest of the presidential hopefuls.
Viva…
Once more PF is taking us for a ride with our eyes wide open. How sad!
LT this what is called proper online journalism. Evidence based. Keep it up.
Other wise you will be left behind.
If PF cadres can not see what a selfish party PF, is. then they are typical “HOUSE NIGGERS”.
I have actually come realise that most of those critical of HH are either children of PF officials sent abroad to study on free education bursaries funded by GRZ, and those employed in missions abroad on the basis of being members of the family forest.
PF cadres are hypocrites. They are benefiting from free education and health care funded by GRZ abroad and yet condemn HH who wants every poor Zambian to enjoy the same.
Those poor youths in the clip would not have been complaining if they all had been studying some skills at some college for free. Sadly PF has ignored…
@PMK
It seems your a very dangerous scientist or you have clue about experiments at all. If an experiment does not work well first time and produce good results, as a good scientist you abandon it and go back to the drawing board and design another one using other method.
So PF is indeed a very bad and dangerous experiment that needs abandoning and replaced by a new experimenting with promising prospects of giving good and reliable results.
UPND and HH form part of that new experiment with high prospects of producing good and reliable results. This is the experiment Zambians want.
Zambias are risk takers. They took a gamble in 1991, and 2011. If they can take a gamble again and vote HH, this time they will win a jackpot because there is hope in HH and UPND.
There you have…i said it yesterday that the game is over..HH is all but buried. .his politics of promises has cost him these elections
HH over-promising
HH false hope
Breaking news:
HH promises to vote for Edgar
2015 vote PF ( Edgar )
I thank you
Correction
It seems your a very dangerous scientist or you have NO clue about experiments at all. If an experiment does not work well first time and does NOT produce good results, as a good scientist you abandon it and go back to the drawing board and design another one using other method.
Edgar will soon go for medical tourism in Israel, and then to London for medical check up and go back to Zambia horizontal.
Those who still believe Edgar and PF will bring employment will cry like those youths in Mufulira .Zambians Zambians you will never seize to amaze.What did you see in Edgar aprt from him being a Malawian brought in Kitwe.Why do most Zambians like foreigners to continue ruling this country.Kaunda and chiluba were a foreigner.At least KK had a vision and healthy,but Lungu awe kwena .He is a moving coffin.
Our Job is done in Mansa…thank you Mansa
Every ticking minute brings us closer and closer to The door step of the state house
“The force that unite us is greater than the one that devide us” ……
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Edgar Edgar please slow down…you are killing HH please Edgar…..second knock down in less than 24 hours….
HH now bleeding heavily….please can someone throw in the towel. .. Edgar who is your trainer..is it Chingangu…come on Edgar tell us the truth cause you throwing some serious heavy weight punches. .
2015 vote PF ( Edgar )
I thank you
@ Katondo Boys. Am feeling very sorry for Lungu. He attracted a huge crowd in Mansa but failed to deliver. By the way PF has not paid farmers in some rural areas including Mansa and would you yourself vote for them? Answer this with honesty!
For you information PF may “pull” large crowds but the more people get to assess EL as he delivers his “written statements” the higher chances for opposition leaders to score high. On this point don’t forget that both Edgar and Rupiah are from Eastern Prov and Rupiah is also contesting. You know what my last statement implies.
I am an intellectual. Both HH and EL have identified the seriousness of the problem but HH has a more systematic and logical approach proposing both short-term and long-term strategies. HH is proposiwng a “teach how to catch fish on your own” while EL is promising to feed. HH’s understanding of modern economic issues makes him a better team leader not subject to manipulation by corrupt and lazy technocrats in the civil service. Time is gone for populist short-term projects. Speaking layman’s language does not make one a better leader. PF policies and strategies belong to the 1960s. EL may be as good a person as HH but the PF party is something else, thug-driven, tribaly inclined and dictatorial using thugs and police to intimidate others. I have no space for PF, RB.
90 days reloaded and reinvented.PF’s youth unemployment solution is more street vendors.
While vending may appear to be a nuisance , the reality is actually the opposite. In Zambia today a lot of growers and dealers in Fruit and vegetable sector have come to accept that vending has impacted positively on their businesses.
Please avoid making comments before reflecting or at least consulting the people close to or into the trade itself.
Most these farms you see along the road depend on vending . whether you accept it or not vendors are very important to the economy.
working in the fruit and veg marketing firm, I have come to see this reality. moreover the latest economic census places trading as the number one driver of the economy ahead of agriculture and mining. Take a tour down the realities of life.
What is Hon Edgar Lungu’s plan under PF on Debt Reduction, upholding Zambia as a Christian nation , zero tolerance to political violence, zero tolerance to corruption and nepotism, marriage between a man and woman and the
value of life, Media Freedom, Public Order Act, freedom of speech,
empowering youths and Locals with a feasible and tangible economic and productive environment , quality healthcare and zero tolerance to medical tourism, professional workforce, constitution road map, credible elections
What is UPND’s plan on Building Infrastructure, Debt Reduction, upholding Zambia as a Christian nation , marriage between a man and woman and the value of life, Media Freedom, Public Order Act, freedom of speech, empowering youths and Locals with a feasible and tangible economic and productive environment , quality healthcare and zero tolerance to medical tourism, credible elections, zero tolerance to Political violence. Zero tolerance to Corruption and nepotism. Please do not direct people to read the manifesto every UPND member should be able to articulate and summarize answers when asked what the Party stands for in order to market and campaign for the party.
Zambians cry for your selves if you wont vote HH.Like sata was saying” cry for your selves me iam comfortable”PF will never bring employment.Its like a man who fails to impregnant his wife in 3 years than suddenly claims he father 10 children in ten years with the same wife of three years.Mule chenjela mwa ma youth .say know to these PF thieves and crooks.Vote HH for change.
@Zambians why would you want another state funeral, are you not tired of the two you had? That office is so demanding and looking at how Edgar is even me a non medical practitioner can tell something is wrong with him. Lets save his life and vote HH because that job is so demanding. We love EL but sorry his health leaves much to be desired.
HH hs neva bn a councillor ,Mp thus he doesn’t understnd hw govt works,baba tok is cheap no wonder our late president called u a calculator boy…EL is the man!!
Uli Cipuba iwe ci fake chief . What is being a Councillor relevant for? HH is the man for the 20th January, 2015.
As it was in the days of FTJ’s third term bid and the brown envelopes so shall it be. As it was in the days of RB’s most expensive campaign with GRZ machinary on his side & bid for his second term so shall it be. Ask RB and Mudala KK how well attended their rallies were but the opposition carried the day. As it was back then so shall it when polling day shall come
Ya!
Kaunda, Chiluba, MWanawasa were couselors before they became president? RB was counselor in which constituency?
Ubukopo at its best!
@Chief Puta……
You never really understood the late Sata. By calling “Calculator boy” he meant “economist” or “accountant” someone who wants to measure things before deciding. Silicon Valley of the USA employs very intelligent high IQ staff who could be referred to as calculator boys or girls. Mr Sata would have love to have HH in his Cabinet, hence his willingness to entice UPND! It is PF senior officials who feared losing their positions who made the PF/UPND Pact fail. “Calculator boy” in no way refers to mediocrity. It refers to accountability. Abash cheap propaganda we are not fools. “Under-5” to Sata meant “HH, wait, you are too young”
VOTING HH WILL BE A BIG MISTAKE
You are in forced exile, I can see.
I and my family will vote HH period
PF; Wage freeze,Employment freeze,Late paying of farmers,Dollar hitting K 7.00 ,Tribalism,Thuggery leadership,Divisions,Dictatorship,family appointments,Visionless.
I will continue to build on Satans legacy, tribalism. Dunderheads. God Got Sata as a Jubilee Surprise present. When God says Yes ,No PF will say NO, New beginning.
As it was in the days of FTJ’s third term bid and the brown envelopes so shall it be. As it was in the days of RB’s most expensive campaign with GRZ machinary on his side & bid for his second term so shall it be. Ask RB and Mudala KK how well attended their rallies were but the opposition carried the day. PF became arrogant over the constitution remember as it was back then so shall it when polling day shall come. By the way tell Lungu to stop reading speeches when campaigning. Let ideas flow.
Voting a kaminamisa/gambling addict/an administrative novice will be a great achievement for Zambia.
Yeeeee!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktnC52hnj-k
What is with that kachief?
The man is not even in office yet but he is sweating bullets!
Old school, if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen!
Surely just from this its clear you can not compare the two.HH is by far better,give the youths the skills required and no one will ever take way those.
what kind of baffoons nominated edgar lungu as a presidential candidate; the guy is just another incompetent fella who has been staged as the PF clown because there was not anyone really with the competency of being a president in the party; they might as well put up a mascot as a party president;
on the other hand
HH is one of us guys and he knows how to lead with honesty; I give him all our support; the guy is there to improve zambia for now we should be serious with our elections and improve the country for our kids and for generations to come.
Vote for HH people for a truly better zambia and not the PF clowns
i Zambia i nation “ba ficala”
I thought bloggers here possess some minimum level of education with which to reason and make a fair judgement. From the two statements, one is more practical and the other is more theoretical. HH’s statement is very simple and straight forward. It is very practical while Mr. Lungu’s statement is a theoretical exercise. I thought he should have based his arguments on the Sata’s vision since he categorically stated he has none. The comments I see supporting EL are from cadres who are blinded with power. They cant imagine losing it now even if it means supporting a non-entity. The two, HH and EL are incomparable. HH has proved how to make money and succeed at a young age while EL has proved how to steal money from clients and abuse alcohol.
the (HH) message sounds hollow, Lungu is practical. we cannot allow that kind of incompetence exhibited by (HH) to enter state house.
How hollow? Don’t just support because you want to protect that ka job given to your by your late grandfather. Time is fast catching up.
@Kudos stop cheating the youths.We need your Kabotolo Edgar to debate with HH face to face to see who understands Zambia’s Economics.Are you sure Edgar wont run away.Ke ke lol lo.ZNBC bring live debates not those 1 hour Tv Interviews.Tumone umwaume pa ume ,HH .
LT stop blocking my comments you are now being childish.
@kudos and Chief Analyzer
You might need to sleep over your thinking. There is nothing wrong with your support of EL but this blind loyalty is dangerous.
This Edgar needs to do his home. He can’t manage conflict in his small party and you expect him to handle the country? The guy was born drunk and he will die drunk.
This is a country that needs a person with all five senses on. If you support EL, you might as well go the the Green Party; atleast they don’t hide their affinity for the three leafed green plant!
ZAMBIA FORWARD; WASHALA WASHALA
@ Kudos
Why blaming LT software? Blame HH incited. Like that, consistency of your mind can be maintained.
@Kudos you are being blocked like your Edgar will be blocked on the day of filling nominations.Here below is the verbatim between Edgar and election officer at the High court.
Your,Name
answer Iam Edgar Chagwa Lungu.
Your village …………
answer Iam ,Iam ,I have no village.
What limbi twipushe muchinyanja.Kumudzi kwanu ni kuti?
Answer I was born in Kitwe,ku chimwemwe.
Is chimwemwe your village.
Answer why ask me such questions I have no time for you iam late for campains,dont you that mr Sata anointed me?
Question: ok please may see your registration card.Who si your mother?
answer go and ask guy scott.You mean you cant read from the my reg.
question:Is it true she is from Malawi?
Declare your wealth.1.7 Guns2.walking stick3.2500 crates of empty bottles of beer4.k2,400 in…
@ kampo, kulibe, mwanyanya imwe bantu, you are disliking my comments like what, do you want to appear alot?. they say dont woory,we shall know them by their fruts, see you on 21st jan,
EL for president.
HH is light years ahead of Chakolwa Lungu who has no vision. All rational and well meaning Zambians will vote for HH. Actually God showed us a sign yesterday that Chakolwa Lungu is not his chosen one by sending rains the moment Chakolwa opened his mouth. HH is the man come 20/01/2015! Viva HH and abash Kaponyaz and visionless drunkards!
black uhuru with this thinking and you call yourself rational? think again? the rains have now become God’s way of communicating?
Yes Black Uhurus is very rational. Viva HH no more kaponyas and Mr. Vodka in State House.
Edgar speech was written and passed on to the media according to Zambianeye whilst Hichilema (as we all know) used his mouth to utter those words.
Not laughing at Edgar but it is obvious that speaking to large groups of people is not his thing and this may JUST may disadvantage him. Reading speeches is not so exciting to listeners at a rally. Lubinda could cud have done a better job at it.
PF is a failed experiment, open for all to see! Any new formula they come up with, will still be trial and error.
@ Mei Matungu you are right. It explains why poor Edgar is being put on the pondium even after confessing that he doesn’t want. I feel sorry for him in a way as he is a “trial and error” candidate for people clinging to power. PF leave this man alone. Don’t embarass him.
well articulated by both. what will secern the two is the political will and policy direction to achieve desirable outcomes. political will and policy direction entails understanding adequately the nature of the problem of youth unemployment then providing feasible and cost effective solutions and channelling effort and resources to that end. One fundamental difference in the approaches is the capacity building which is not well elaborated in PF compared to UPND. PF say they gave 200 local contractors work on infrastructure projects; a commendable step indeed. But works from most locals are shoddy; they lack capacity; they are not empowered. Capacity comes from education, training and empowerment and access to affordable capital to invest in technology and be competitive.
@Alfred Bulaya
I agree with you my brother, you have put it better than mine.
@Alfred Bulaya.
Precisely. Well spoken. We need more rational minds like yours on serious debates like this one, and less dull cadre attitude, if we are serious about the young generations and future of our Country.
Reading the two analysis , it is clear that HH has a better understanding of what is the cause of the problem and he has systematically articulated his approach to solve the problem. Lungu on the other hand seems to be making vague statements. It is clear that he has very little understand of the issues at hand.
It is a pity that this is the best PF candidate they can come up with. This guy Lungu is not a presidential material period. Even Sampa could have done better.
Gentlemen free education from primary to university is a dream for HH. Let him tell us how he will achieve this and where funding to school/colleges/universities will come from. white lie
He doesnt have to tell you. I can tell you. If we stop unnecessarily by-elections which gobbled around 700 000 000 dollars we can divert that money to educating our kids. The money that would be used for a presidential by-election could have have been diverted to build 20 000 bed spaces UNZA and CBU if a new constitution was enacted. So money will be found. By the way educating kids from grade 1 to 7 is very cheap. Education gets expensive at tertiary level. But we can still make it if funds are prudently managed and that is where HH is basing the argument – financial prudenceeeeeee.
it is mere day dreaming and sensationalism. this country has 4 public universities with a student population of over 30,000. for many years governments have failed to satisfactorily support students. HH ideas are mere rhetoric and not feasible. what he should be talking about is how to sustain the bursary system. they should be thinking of how to turn it into a loan scheme so that those who benefit from it should pay so that other poor people from Choma, Mazabuka, Chiengi, Vubwiand can benefit.
@ the philosopher
Can you enlighten us, mere mortals, on the difference between philosophy and rhetoric?
@George.
It was a reality in UNIP era and most of those id0its lying to you benefited from free education. HH himself is benefactor of free education and appreciates how many doors of opportunity this opened for him. Thats why he believes in it. I know I can be delivered by HH with a strong political will.
HH is not talking from without like PF minions talking out of selfishness because they believe that only their relatives should benefit from free education abroad while children of the poor tax payer should wallow in perpetual poverty. PF and you lot are shameless f00ls.
What more do you want has he not said enough on this? Ushunfwa patunono napafingi takomfwe!
Why should Edgar be talking of intentions, when he has been a key player in running the current government that has failed to actualize what he is talking about?. HH is providing an economic strategy to dealing with youth unemployment. Edgar is highlighting economic operations he intends to undertake. Any operation without a strategy is likely to run into difficulties. For the common man however, they are more likely to understand Edgar’s message.
you can not claim that they do not have a strategy. government programmes are implemented based on development plans and party manifestos. the PF has a plan and strategies developed to implement those plans. EL is speaking from that position. Please understand that there is no correlation between being a successful business man and managing the economy of a country because the conditions for each are different. if it were like that we would safely say that the likes of bill gates would make great presidents. HH has no leadership qualities and definitely no experience in political governance. to run a government is not equivalent to running a business and therefore being successful in one does not guarantees success in the other.
Psychiatrist!
Please read the article again:
“Edgar Lungu tackled the issue during his address in Kitwe, while Mr Hichilema addressed the problem through a media statement.”
Don’t just waffle for the sake of it…
That is the more reason why EL deserves the support of all those interested in preserving our next generation.. The man is practical and realistic…
No time for experiments ladies and gentlemen…
@Dollar Be more objective. Read the Zambianeye. Hear from other people who were there.
EL never talked,he gave hand outs as if that was a seminar. So he failed to explain what he wrote on paper. Education is the biggest investments you can give to your child. HH is right.
Who will be a true experiment here between HH and EL? I thought EL is a typical experiment since he has no vision of his own. How can you lead based on the dead’s vision? In fact even the dead’s legacy was that of thuggery, hooliganism, nepotism, dictatorship mention them. Let us be serious this time if for HH. I know he is causing u sleepless nights that is the more reason you are busy yapping. Its not a done deal for EL and PF. You will have to sweet your ass off to win this election.
@Dollar
You are wallowing in f00ls paradise. Tumfweko, Zambian eye and all other online media confirmed the fact Lungu just waffled with read speech.
HH had no written speech. He talked about things he believes in.
HH speech makes sense, Lungu is just rumbling can’t get any any sense of his. Sad to have such a leader, Sampa far much better than Lungu. Any way HH is the only way to go. Viva HH
Ba LT I am LIKING you. That video is laka. Hichilema there’s a constituency for ya my presido.
it is illogical for Hakainde to think that the curriculum in universities is at the core of unemployment. he went through the same institutions that gave him the skills he used to get a job and become what he is. It just goes to show that he is not in touch with reality. education and the right skills are not the problem, the real problem is that there few job opportunities in Zambia. currently the biggest employer is government in the civil service so for the country to address unemployment there is need to create industries and new companies to create pensionable jobs. HH was part of the team that destroyed this country through the sell of parasternal companies and left a lot of Zambians in the cold and without jobs especially on cb-what hypocrisy
Yes it is logical. He got educated from UNZA quite some years ago. The world has since changed and yet the curriculum is still the same. That should explain why it has to be reviewed.
HH was never part of MMD. SATA, CHILUBA AND VALENTINE CHITALU STOLE PRIVATISATION MONEY.
Thats because the only thing he did with it is steal from poor zambians.
If one has been to a proper school, you will not two things, that is, one is pandering to symptoms and another to cause and effect. PF is talking to high school approach and HH to serious policy shift. Unfortunately, you nerd to be well advanced to see the difference.
Let me put it this way in case the above is too complex, and please am not a voter and not Zambian based, you have first to be in order to become. It is about education skills that work and innovation instead of just giving Zambians contracts only.
Mwebantu, Edgar Lungu looks very sick.
Zambia has just had two late presidents gobbling much financial resources the country needs for development. How can we risk another state funeral so soon, lets vote wisely. For PF Miles Sampa was a better option, young and energetic. As usual PF miscalculated on age and health. Only HH needs to be voted as young and energetic Zambian leader.
it amazes me to see this kind of thinking. old age is no certificate to death. How many young people die or are living with HIV other terminal illnesses? and how do you tell if Lungu is sick or not? discuss his ability to provide leadership to this country and judge him based on that. we can have as many by-elections as we can afford as long as people who die in office were legitimately put there. in a democracy we cannot rule out by elections especially if those holding political office are corrupt and dishonest. if the courts of law say that that some Members of parliament corrupted the electorate to get into office and therefore they do not deserve to be there and nullify their election results, that is no deliberate decision to have by elections. let politicians be truthful and honest
Yes indeed Edgar Lungu is the right man. LT, where is the messages from Joe the man of God? This is a Sunday and we need more of God’s messages……………………where is the Lords messages please LT, all the best
@philosopher,Old age is not certificate to death ,But abuse of Beer is a very Good certificate to death and Edgar has it in his hands.HH has no such certificate.
You are crazy! where is your argument? Don’t just admit give us reasons. Such mentality needs to be closely monitored for sure there is something wrong if not everything.
@ Livingstone is crazy
HH is correct, We Zambians are mostly unemployed because of lack of skills. Zambians need simple ways to make them educated in order to have many young Youths employed. I worked in Congo & I have seen there is a big different between congoles & Zambians, For someone to work as a shift boss in Congo underground mines someone must be a mining Engineer from university,& So many young engineers fight for this opportunities. But in Zambia a shift boss should just have a blasting license & RBS from the mine owners. If they advertise a job opportunity for Mining Engineers maybe not even 1 application is received.Truly Zambia needs to revise it’s education system in order to have youths employed.
Honestly, if Zambians see Edgar Lungu as Presidential material, a guy whose past is dented with theft and alcoholic, then thank God my children are American.
I can now conclude that Zambia has no ability to vote for quality leaders. How do you raise your children in a country where people have no ability to identify individuals with leadership credentials.
what do you call leadership credentials that Edigar does not have? can you tell me what theft Lungu’s past is dented with Mr. Zambian in America
@ the philosopher
Contradicting for sake of contradiction?
Read again # 24 and if you miss again, theft in Zambia is not different than theft in America.
You give youth skills and enablbg environment they will be entrepreneurs and adopt to changing world needs HH aporoach.
You give supply contracts in the mines as focus, mines are depleting resource they will not supply for ever. And to supply they will have to buy from China or elsewhere/ employ foreigners to execute contracts for them EL approach.
HH approach is by far superior. It will create serious business people in Zambia in the order of late Tom Mtine
My party the UPND strategists need to pull up both their socks and trousers in order to win this election – we still have time to make improvements. Based on the analysis of issues with UNEMPLYMENT, I think Lungu won the argument but not necessarily the war and I will explain why.
Lungu made his case clearly with 8 points anyone can easily understand:
1. Create new industries in rural – in each of the 10 provinces from textiles, food processing
2. Grow local contractors significantly by giving them big jobs e.g recently gave over 200 Zambian contractors to build infrastructure in the new 30 districts. This is as it should be.
3. Mines should begin to give local contractors and suppliers bigger opportunities than rely upon foreign suppliers
4. Local Zambian companies and…
@ Chilyata And you believed that. Won’t be surprised you are one of those who believed the 90 day promises. Easier to understand thus easier to believe I guess.
4. Local Zambian companies and individuals must get involved in the ownership of mines – so We should not be workers, but also mine owners.
5. Foster job security in the Mines
6. We must prioritise our local people with requisite skills against expatriate workers.
7. Social responsibility – the mines should recommit to developing real and visible social and sporting facilities such as street lighting and light-road maintainance.
8. Empowerment initiatives – empower our young people with skills and opportunities so that they can help themselves and also employ others
HH’s message which is much harder to understand is given below
1. Good economic management – no more reckless borrowing and no more waste. It also means introducing policies that incentivise the growth of local…
WHOEVER HATES HIS NEIGHBOUR WILL IN HERITY THE KINGDOM OF GOD,BECAUSE HE IS A MURDER.WHY DO YOU HATE A PERSON WHOM YOU HAVE NOT EVEN COME ACROSS? SHAME ON YOU DEAR. THE ELECTORLETS WILL MAKE THEIR CHOICE OUT OF THE TWO,EITHER LUNGU SAYS THIS OR HH SAYS THAT,WHAT MATTERS IS THE WAY YOU UNDERSTAND THEM.IT DOESN’T MATTER WEATHER YOU ARE SEEING LAWLESSNES OR TRIBLIST,IT IS YOUR CHOICE.LET US LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
@HAABASONGO – The Bible does not read “WHOEVER HATES HIS NEIGHBOUR WILL IN HERITY THE KINGDOM OF GOD,BECAUSE HE IS A MURDER.” BUT YOU SHUD HAVE WRITTEN “Whoever hates his neighbour will NOT inherit the ……etc”. You left out a very crucial word in your sentence.
HH’s message which is much harder to understand is given below
1. Good economic management – no more reckless borrowing and no more waste. It also means introducing policies that incentivise the growth of local businesses and encourage investment. This will lead to more jobs being created, and increased government revenues that we can then invest in education and training.
Comment: This is a policy issue which an ordinary voter would not understand. Just say what the waste is e.g. no unnecessary by-elections, etc
2. Youth Empowerment – empower those with business ideas to go out there and make them happen. This means providing support through increasing access to relevant training and affordable credit.
Comment: What exactly does he want to do – things don’t just happen like…
3. Education and training reform – revisit the school curriculum and review training opportunities on offer to youths so that they have the right skills to find work or start in business by the time they leave school or university.
Comment: I would give HH a zero mark for this one. We have too many unemployed graduates even in Science and Agriculture – so this will just be a waste of time
4. Finally, I want to stress that we must work towards a situation where all Zambians, regardless of their gender or tribe have the same opportunities available to them in terms of education and training. Job vacancies must be filled according to merit and using open procedures.
Comment: Excellent point and should have been number 1 on HH’s list
Growing the Economy and creating jobs chilyata is not a short term project. You are advocating for a quick solution with a shake foundation .Things start with giving youths the right curriculum ,then Jobs come out of ideas and all what government does is to provide the right environment for growth. If you use a wrong system no matter how you invest you will always fail. That’s why MMD and PF have failed ,they are using a wrong system.
@SIDO MARK: As an Economist with PhD and a Professional Banker, I know and understand all that! You should know that you need a short, medium and long term policy mix at the same time – and UPND policy lacks this. Just look at the IMF paper on the Zambian economy. Even PF Kaponyas have got it in their policy mix.
In any political context and Zambia in particular, it would be foolish and self defeating to be telling young people that your policy is growing the economy first and to reduce unemployment in 25 years time when they will be retiring!
The fact is that the unemployed Graduates need jobs now, so you should have something for them in the short term and also address the problem in the long term. Mwanawasa and Mbeki did it. HH has to do it otherwise he will lose this election…
If EL policy apoears best for you compared to HH policy one thing is clear, you do not have sufficient knowledge in economics and wealth creation. You need basic knowledge to comment better.
nations are not run by economists man.
Thanks to God, nations are not run by philosophers. Otherwise, psychiatrist will be extremely overworked!!!
give me examples of leaders with degrees in economics. few if not non. do you know why economists are abstract and their theories do not converge on reality
Of I am able to comment and criticise both EL and HH’s policies because I am educated unlike you.
With my PhD in economics, I dont know what kind of education you want! Above all, I have thriving businesses in Lusaka – so I know what I am talking about and that’s why I can upick and criticise! I am only working abroad because there is serious unemployment for PhD holders in Zambia as well unless you have political connections.
Ask Mbita Chitala if you have any doubts – he has had no meaningful job for many years now and yet he is one of the brightest economists Zambia will ever produce!
How many jobs has Edgar created. Does he know how to create one?? I know for a fact that HE ATE clients money. LAZ suspended him. He is basically a thief. WE do no want a thief in state house who will eate our money just like he ate clients money.
RTSA says do not drink and drive
How can we support a drunkard for plot one . My foot
That’s unfair to EL because he has refuted your allegations but if you want do it that way, that is fine. But dont cry foul when people hang a tribal tag on HH which is also unfair because he has also refuted it!!
EL will never convince me as presidential material. He has no vision. No wonder he used to chew clients money when he was practicing law. am sure the money was used to buy beer !
viva HH, president of Zambia 2015!!!!!
Peeps always asking where HH is going to get money to fund his free education policy. There will be no induced by elections, no medical tourism, and road projects will be cost reflective, no bloated cabinet and the FISP will be rationalised to improve targeting so that only deserving farners get it. Money saved from the current excesses will go towards education.
is that HH’s plan or you are thinking for him. He has not told us the electorate man on how is going to fund those far fetched policies
I am a youth and going by the two proposed solutions, let’s face it Edgar Lungu is far ahead and talks reality. He is not waffling but demonstrating that his approach to this global problem can be tackled with determination.
On the other hand HH is being theoretical. His proposals are what MMD put in place for twenty years and hence these high levels of unemployment today. A president’s job is not to manager resources but provide able leadership. Management of resources is a job of technocrats and experts.
My position: in the three years PF has been in power, we have witnessed massive infrastructure development and those create investor inflow confidence and hence big opportunities for anyone especially us the youth.
So it’s 80 percent to Edgar and 20 percent to HH.
And who is not a youth and what determination has he shown? HH is far much better than EL in everything? Lets talk about business success, HH is no.1 , even Education wise HH is far much better, without tackling riches. We dont want a president who is aiming to enrich himself because he is poor reason being: when will he start looking after the many poor citizens.
There is nothing Edgar can tell us. These are the characters who have doctored statistics on youth employment; claiming music and art have created 200,000 jobs in past three years. The doctored numbers that formal new jobs in past three years have grown to 400,000 (they even contradicted themselves). PF created no single job in past three years for youths except those taken up organically. They have favoured Chinese businesses above youth entrepreneurs. Those kaponyas king-making Lungu are a product of PF policies they inherited from MMD. They fail to pay young female footballers paltry fees because they have no idea about managing youth empowerment programmers. Zambians wake up…save your lives from this sunk ship. Forget Edgar. Let’s get a life.
That is the PF menu, unfortunately. One either gets constipated or is hit with diarrhea – nothing in-between.
1. Edgar Lungu aporoach is premsed on appeasement, benefits for cadres and his sponsors in terms of various contracts e.g. building, mines supply and not youth unemployment.
How is this focus on youth? I Bet PF cadres will be beneficiaries.
2. How is he to create industries in provinces, very vague!!
3. Where will seed capital come from? Currently government over spending leads to borrowing nan ng cost of capital expensive.
With the “storm” over in PF, and based on the development taking place countywide, I see Zambia being a true paradise on earth! No wonder Mr. Mugabe made those positive comments at the late Sata’s funeral. ” Zambia has become the envy of not only the SADC Region but the world over.” this is because of PF.
HH has no slight chance to Edgar and PF on 2oth January 2015. No wonder his supporters have resorted to insults and falsehood. They know the truth.
My vote and am sure for many Zambians is on Edgar Lungu and PF.
natural mystic you are right. this country is on the right path to development. I will vote for Lungu and the Patriotic Front and I am campaigning for him because their policies are feasible and realistic.
Based on GDP figures from the Ministry of Finance, the Zambian economy will grow at 6.5% in 2014, it grew by 6.7% in 2013 and 2012, 7.3% in 2011 and 7.6% in 2010. What this means is that though the economy is growing, it is increasingly growing ata much slower pace. Fiscal deficit which was under 2% in 2011 is now above 5%. Debt has increased and the payments we are making to service our debt per year are higher than spending to social sectors such as health. So I really dont get it whenone says that we have seen massive economic development under PF. The only sectors doing well are construction and transport, everything else are actually going down hill. Check the numbers.
It is a shame that Lungu and all his cabinet colleagues did not realize for more than 3 years absolute lack of any government policy aimed to stimulate growth of local SME and instead concentrated in uncontrolled borrowing which starved local entrepreneurship of necessary financial inputs necessary for start-ups and expansion of existing SME.
Evidence is there in plain view. Out of USD 1,750 Million raised through Bond borrowing, only 20 Million was offered to local SME (representing LESS than 1.14%) and even that derisory and laughable amount was divided between political associates.
It is amazing that now, after almost destroying local SME, Lungu and his colleagues are waking up and offering “solution” to the problem which they promised to solve 3 years ago in “90 days”!!!
Now I can see why these guys in PF have been insisting on EL to be their presidential candidate. The guy is a perfect replica of MCS – a liar who wields the tongue of a serpent with mastery skill. PF wants us to believe that this guy whose main hobby is beer drinking, and is not known ever to have tended even a vegetable garden or successfully maintained a chicken run, is not only “presidential material” but can also be the key architect of Zambia’s economy. What a joke! What has this guy got to show for all of that, aside from his lies? It is a sad day for Zambia.
From the above, No one between the two has clear cut and definitive policies on youth employment. My only take from experience is that PF has not shown capacity for youth empowerment. Let’s try someone new. Edgar is real experiment for Zambia. He lacks inspiration. In Kitwe, he was saved by the rains from further anguish and embarrassment. On Radio Phoenix, he came out as a total political novice. No own vision, no passion and charisma, poor articulation of policy, disoriented mental thought pattern. Let’s be honest, besides this so called ‘anointing factor’ what is it about Lungu? Someone easy to manipulate? Is that the reason the Father Bwalyas, Mulongotis, Emmanuel Mwambas, Athony Mukwitas, Brian Hapunda (all rejected by Sata) have found Lungu easy to handle?
Is Zambia serious they want Lungu in State House? Youths, do not be deceived by infrastructure investment. Those were a carry over from MMD. That’s why Lungu says nothing except ‘Sata’ Vision’. Do you know the current deficit in Zambia? Who will pay the price? Zambian youths are doomed the longer PF stays in power. Mukashwa kaufela. Amubone manyando.
EL has all the plans from short term,medium term and long term plans.
HH has only uncovered long term plans that may take even 30 yrs to see the benifits
@Grand
It is commendable to have long-term plans rather than strive for immediate gratification with no eye on the future. It’s a characteristic that we need to learn from the west, even in our personal lives. A myopic view is not what we want in a candidate. What about your children and their children? Think of them.
30 years is actually nothing, in the grand scheme of things.
Let’s all support HH. Lungu is an opportunist, a chancer and that’s why his following is largely among the vision less. HH has demonstrated maturity, consistency and sincerity in all his campaigns. The HH of 2011 is not the current HH. Zambians have seen who he is and that explains the unsolicited crowds following him. Lungu is not well as we have seen already. He is a chancer.
Edgard’s argument sounds to me like an assignment in macro economics and am sure its not him that wrote that. People we should realize that employment is not like building a clinic. am sure that’s why PF has been allover saying the created employment because a few 100 boys were made to carry wheel barrows. HH is talking about creating long term pensionable employment. today let PF point at 1 industry they created . look at MULUNGUSHI TEXTILES up to know
I wonder what excuses we are going to fabricate this time around for allowing ourselves to fall back into this same ugly ditch of PF lies? On the basis of what rationale? It goes beyond logic and common sense.
but surely from HH explanation, what are his short term and medium term plans ?
lets debate on what they said, not about health or what
A series of televised debates (a la USA) is in order. Both the intellectually advanced and the little man on the street will get a chance to see the candidates side by side.
I believe a visual of the candidates, side by side, will influence the views of even those that have a minimal grasp of the issues expounded in the debate.
Make it happen! Let’s have that live debate!
Why is the blogger by the initials of PMK always behaving like he has list education in the country? Like 1964 is yet to happen? Every time he comments, any civilized person wonders. Its no wonder Zambians we keep on fielding people without vision and leadership qualities as long as they can yap its fine
I must say am impressed by the high level of intellectual debate on this platform so much so that am compelled to wonder whether the bloggers on this site are Zambians? because i don’t see such kind of level headed debates on other Zambian social media sites. This is commendable.
If you are given manna without working up a sweat to get it, you are liable to misuse it. This is the situation most Zambians have found themselves in and unfortunately for UPND, this is what their leader in HH is trying to stick in, sad not so?
There is however every evidence now that our tax money and also the borrowed one is being spent on the following:
1. Building better & good roads
2. Providing better energy
3. Provision of better healthy care (improving existing ones and building more, 650 health centers, wow!)
4. Providing better drinking water to homes
5. Improving agriculture (diversity of crops and livestock)
6. Building new Universities and expanding the existing ones
This is intelligence at work, you see it, you can see it! My vote is on Edgar & please…
And can you explain how Zambia is going to pay back the debt: isn’t it through high cost of living – increased mealie, fuel prices etc.
God is really great in giving us Hichilema.
Very quiet from madam Kaseba. What’s up Doc?
She contemplating on endorsing HH. This is no joke. Am serious. She’s educated and her eyes have opened to reality TV in Zambia politics.
HH needs to pull up, guys lets be real here…
Thank you Zambians for being very resolute, we won’t accept another year of medicriority, mealie meal was 35k only three years ago and failures have brought it to almost 100k and unashamed, they are still asking for our votes. Total madness. We are not as dumb as you think. And no matter how much and how many times you post your blogs, we have moved on and for clarity, we are with UPND
?@ Gabriel,
i am hoping you will be there on 21st Oct
@ Gabriel,
i am hoping you will be there on 21st Jan,
A lot of people have died and been buried with their visions they never per sued. Edgar NEVER said he has no vision no! What he said, and makes a lot of sense to many is this:
” Currently the PF Party has put in serious programs in place that need to be brought to fruition and not just remain on paper as plans, We will review the PF manifesto and incorporate my vision after fulfilling the current programs and projects and after winning the 2016 General elections of course.”
This is brilliance by this man, jealous down. So certain media outlets must not mislead the few who never heard Edgar speak.
It’s very clear HH and UPND are no match in every sphere to PF.
Its Edgar and PF all the way.
GBM, just reconcile with Edgar team because they mean well after all. You are family
HH is not being honesty on the issue in the near shorterm to long-term That is why we are saying we need to up the political statements and promises to see through and agree to reason and vote intelligently
Is the youth unemployment structural, frictional or is cyclical and what is the rates in terms of available for employment,discouraged,not available and non critical, temporary unemployed ,disabled and soft against the total labour effective employment population of those youths in Zambia Is HH able to give sector by sector the potential and relate to the frictional, cyclical and structural issues facing the employment situation in Zambia in the near short term 2015 to long-term
We are good at crying foul after the fact. But we are not smart enough to address our problems at the ballot box, long before the problems show their ugly faces at our door. Prevention is better and cheaper than cure.
Which other country in the whole wide world has had as many elections and bye-elections in the last fifteen years, with nothing to show for it, as Zambia did? And yet we are very apt to blame the poor politician for the mess that we ourselves create by voting for bums and lunatics.
In 2011, Michael Sata was clearly an accident in waiting. And yet, and in spite of clear warning signs, we went ahead and blindly voted for him. The unavoidable happened, and oh my, at what a cost! Still it is the poor politicians who must bear the blame. Seriously?
miles sampa is forming his own party using pf manifesto beer man is even lost doesnt know what to give the youth despite being in government for some time now hh has got proven exprience in running business due to his good education whilest lungu is not honest according to his past records and current behavior that one of being a drunkerd we want someone who knows what he is promising practical people of zambia especially you the youth dont lose this chance remember how you were cheated by the same pf under sata and where are you now vote for the man with proven records that is hh of upnd and move forward.
Ha ha ha ba UPND ikalenifye. You are too desperate. Who is Sampa anyway? Focus on your finished HH.
its real, Edgar Lungu has won these elections and its now slowly but surely dawning on you once again.
You are siding with your potential enemy! Ma Ma Ma eye bola naikosa.
This is PF bwana ……
Where is the fiscal space and plan to achieved this considering PFs locked in Budgets and Plans 2030 over the horizon
Yu will need special parliamentary and cabinet undertaking to reshuffle and align and it may not take two to three months and then the effect is not seen immediately because there are also issues to do with employment formalisation in contracts for those to be employed
Its a far fetched pronouncement and if it has to be made it must be reasonable to achieve especially given the private sector participation and the already over stretched government salary budget and payroll and most parastatals
Where will the space come from within the new firms
People let us stop harrassing each other, we all know now that the race is between EL and HH. The best i supose is to subject the two candidaes to a debate on ZNBC where they are asked same questions and given the same time to answer the question. In that way we will be able to know who the best person for the job is. Let us not depend on written speeches from both candidates. Lets us as zambia unite and call for a debate between the two.
Now you are talking!
Before we are cheated again, let us reflect on these, since history determines our present and future.
In PF, Zambian faced the following:
1. Wage freeze
2. Employment freeze
3. Late paying of farmers up to now
4. Dollar is almost hitting K 7.00.
5. No Constitution unless we provide an Animal Driven Constitution
6. Family tree (More and vast Tribalism),
7. Thuggery leadership (Panga Family)
8. Divisions within themselves
9. Dictatorship (Failure to follow their party constitution how do you expect them to follow the national constitution?
10. Family appointments
11. Public Order Act
12. Police brutally
13. Visionless and the list is endless…
Are these the people u would want to vote into power again? I urge you to vote for any other person from the opposition and not PF…
Ba HH too much theory…It is difficult indeed to govern based on theory.
Try to copy and paste the honest and practical EL–
EL you have my vote plus many more…At least 90% of the ones I have interacted with so far are for you.
The undecided ones are more inclined on your side.
Caution: Leave over promising attitude to these others
what is there and for sure is that pf government is broke they spent the money recklessly on sata and stole also meawhile the projects they are talking about are at stand still when and that is if they continue you will hear mr chikwanda has gone to borrow some uerobonds to try and continue up to 2016 then they will ask you again give chance to finish these projects bufi that is why they cant pay farmers. meal allowances for students, suspended employment, imposed wage freeze etc with a hope to cheat you open your eyes zambians these reckless borrowing is a burden to you your children and their children vote wisely for joshua to take you to the promised land and that is hh viva upnd
Just look at the people who have endorsed this under five HH! What have they achieved in life themselves? Look at Mwaanga, failure and self confessed drug dealer despite being in politics for over 35 years! Look at Maureen, all the businesses his late husband left and those obtained through corruption are almost bankrupt. Don’t be deceived, these are on dying beds! They expected Ministerial jobs by Sata but alas, he was too intelligent for these rejects.
On the other hand, Edgar is well and very fit who has been on the PF winning team for three years and so he and his colleagues have shown us that YES, Zambia can be transformed for the better and it is indeed on that path.
This is the end of the road for HH mark my words come 20 January 2015.
It’s PF again & again til 2027
if HH is real, he should give us a projection on how many jobs he may create in his first term.
but these are things i have never heard from him, can some one tell me how i can consider him to be realistic
I have read most of the comments on this blog, I have concluded one thing that makes sense. The educated and middle class are in support of HH, HH is able to articulated his agenda based on his business education, as can be seen by his companies he manages. And for Lungu, most of his supporters are loyal and uneducated. As seen on the video clip, those don’t blog but are tired of PF. Here is my advise, for HH supporters get the phone and call your relatives and educate them on the right candidate, in this case HH. Lungu has no clue why he wants to be president, just like Sata. I have reached out to so many family members and friends. The only way HH is going to get it. Families are suffering and apparently, they feel it is normal to suffer, not until you let them know the reason why
Sequence of events, 2008 MMD RB, 2011 PF SATA, 2015 UPND HH. Our only hope now is UPND, we have tried the other kambwangas and they have lamentably failed us.
?@ Chikenda
?@ blackbull
= i dont understand why 90% of HH surporters are from his region,
– 90% of the pipo sorounding him are from one region, how ……
?@ Chikenda
?@ blackbull
= i dont understand why 90% of HH surporters are from his region,
– 90% of the pipo sorounding him are from one region, how ……
A very intelligent Politicians and honest will first give a state of union and outlook 2015 and carefully propose sound strategies in each social and sectors to ensure voters buy in and see and then act once elected to win confidence for 2016
HH yes run his firms but not efficiently as we have seen from statutory filling and certainly if he was he could be a majority employer in the sectors that he serves and I think people like chilala,zambeef, chain stores and other have numbers to show for and the chain effect of their business to value other sectors in excess of more than 2000 employers enough combination and permutation to marshal votes
HH currently has 2,456 employs .Edgar has 3 workers.how can he understand issues of employment.Tell me?Zambians lets be real.
If HH was a successful business man the combination and permutation of his employees and firms his firm audited at GT is enough to win him votes
But apparently its not a plus for him and that is why from our assessment He will never win an Election for Presidency.
Sometimes even the way a leader comes up and is introduced to become a leader matters
its always important to come out from the ranks and not pull it like miles or others are It should be by majority acceptance to make reigning easier As it is even in his party members are saying he should resign and step down except for his money and passion for UPND
We love him and honestly its hard for him to win given his…
HH is the only hope to save the unemployment of youth.
Vote HH for president 2015!
Tiye tiye
HH has 21 big business while Edgar has one lawfirm and 3 houses only.
HH has a clean record ,while Edgar was cought ready handed and yesterday he admitted paying back clients money.What a shame .once a thief always a thief.
For me the credibility of HH beats Edgar Lungu’s even before I compare the statements. Here you have a successful business man and a trouble law firm. Seriously guys?
ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WILL NEVER HELP HH RULE ZAMBIA IS LACK OF TORELANCY AMONGST TONGA/UPND STRONG HOLDS AREAS LIKE CHOMA MAZABUKA MONZE MBABALA MALA NAMWALA SHIMBIZI ITEZHI TEZHI TO OTHER PARTIES FOUNDED BY NON TONGAS
THERE IS NO TORELANCY FOR OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES IN THESE AREAS AND OFTEN THOSE IN SUPPORT OF OTHER LIKE PF UNIP FDD AND MILUPIS ARE SEEN TO BE NON TONGAS AND CALLED THE FORMOUS TONGA NAMES CHIEFS ALSO HAVE NOT DONE MUCH IN THES AREAS TO SUPPORT DIVERSE THINKING ON PARTIES ONLY SEE UPND AS ONLY
AS A RESULT THE MAJORITY ZAMBIANS HAVE CONSISTENTLY VOTED NO FOR HH IT COULD DEFERENT IF UPND WAS TORERANT WITH OTHERS IN ITS STRONG HOLD ITS BEEN OBSERVED RIGHTLY
Another tribalism Monger, arent we past that?
HH mantains his body very well ,he has a gym ,he does not drink beer and goes for prayers on Saturday,while edgar goes to drink beer straight from work and has no time for exercise.If you can’t manage your self what a bout managing a country?Zambians HH is the real deal.
ITS A PITY THAT EVEN THE PROMOTION OF TONGA EMPOWERMENT SYSTEM BY TONGA HR MANAGERS AT MOST PARASTATALS LEAD BY TONGAS AND MAIMBO KALAHARI AT THAT RECRUIMENT NEAR MANDAHILL ROAD AND DAVIS AT HR INSTITUTE AND MANY MORE TONGA SECRETE AGENTS OF HH HAVE NOT TURNED THE TABLES ACCORDINGLY TO ASHER HH INTO PLOT ONE IT HAS FAILED RAMENTEBLY BECAUSE NOT ONLY HAS IT BEEN CONDEMNED BY MANY BUT ALSO ONLY SHOWN THAT TONGAS ARE TRIBALIST PEOPLE
THE TONGA EMPOWERMENT SYSTEM IN MOST PARASTATALS AND INSTITUTION OF LEARNING SHOULD BE CURTAILED AND CORRECTIONS MADE TO ENSURE EQUITY TO ALL
REVIEW THE EMPLOYMENT DATA FROM SOME RECRUITMENT FIRM AND OBSERVE THE BIASENESS IN THE MIDIST OF HH COMMENTS
ITS THEREFORE NOT TRUE THAT HH WILL BRING ANY EMPLOYMENT TO ANY MEANINGFUL ZAMBIANS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY IT WILL BE THE TONGA EMPOWERMENT SYSTEM AS WE HAVE STUDIED DOCUMENTED AND SEEN COMFIRMED HAPPENING SILENTLY IN EMPLOYMENT IN ZAMBIA WITH LEAKED MARKS IN SCHOOLS DELIBERATELY AMONGST THE TEACHERS IN SCHOOL AREAS
AS OBERVED AT ONE ZESCO AND LOCAL RECRUITMENT FIRM FOR EVERY 10 APPLICATIONS 6 TONGAS ARE EMPLOYED AND FOR EVERY 10 HR PRACTISSIONERS 7 ARE TONGAS OFTEN IN A NETWORK
SAME IS AT MOST OBERVED ULTILITIES AND COMPANIES SAVED BY TONGAS SAME WILL HAPPEN IF HH COMES AT MASSIVE NUMBERS AS LONG AS ONE GREATS IN TONGA OR SAYS BANENE OR BASAKWA OR KWABWAI OR BADALA CHANGE
CHANGE YOUR BRUTAL TRIBAL TAG AND SEE EVERYONE AS ONE AND ZAMBIA IN WHOLE AND STOP PROMOTING THE TONGA EMPOWERMENT SYSTEM
The tribal song is out dated boss.HH is for all Zambians and PF is for few Zambians.They have already demonstrated so no can buy yo tribe song .Iam not Tonga but will vote for health and Energetic HH.
we will have problem if we give votes to someone with a bad record this is what we ignored with cobra when all those who knew him well said he was not presidential material every one said lets give the action man chance now see he has left the country in poverty and confusion in his pf so to hell with another mistake viva hh come 20 january 2015
There’s no contest. One intends to try and reverse the bad trends while the other intends to increase the rot. Can’t wait for a debate on justice, criminality and human rights. One will have more personal experience than the other of being abused and the other will have plenty of experience as an abuser. PF supporters cannot tell me ED has no plans of continuing the vision of his ‘mentor/uncle/boss’ and stomping on the opposition first chance he gets. He’s proven it in how he grabbed his campaign. SorryI am normally non aligned as far as politics go but watching these campaigns roll, I am positioning myself firmly on the side of sanity. I don’t believe PF deserve to do anything other than hand over and let someone else try and make sense of their fumbling term.
As it was in the days of FTJ’s third term bid and the brown envelopes so shall it be. As it was in the days of RB’s most expensive campaign with GRZ machinary on his side & bid for his second term so shall it be. RB and Mudala KK never imagined an opposition party would beat them! Please PF cadres tell Lungu that not even KK, Levy, RB and Sata read a speech at a campaign rally. As it was back then so shall it when polling day shall come
WE PASSED THRU NAMWALA ,MBILA AREA AND ASKED PEOPLE AT THE SCHOOL AND MARKET AND NEAR THE COUNCILOR SITENGWA,THEY SAY THEY ARE ARE TIRED OF TRIBALISTIC POLITICS AND LEADERSHIP TAG SAYING THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE REMAINED UNDER DEVELOPED HOPING FOR A SAVIOUR IN HH BUT HH THEY HAVE REALISED CANNOT WIN A NATIONAL CONTESTED ELECTIONS
WE SAMPLED THE VOTERS ROLL AND DID A SIMPLE STATISTIC EDGAR LUNGU WAS FAVOURITE TO TAKE MBILA THAN HH THAT SHOWS YOU HOW SERIOUSLY THINKING TONGAS HAVE ANALYSED THE AKWARD SITUATION UPND AS A PARTY AND LEADERSHIP HAS PUT THEN IN VIEW OF MANY ZAMBIANS SAYS SITENGWAS CONCELLOR MEN
EVEN HERE IN AMERICA NOW AMONGST THE ELITE EDGAR IS MORE FAVOURITE THA…
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GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT
WHO WANTS EL
THE REALITY IS TOO VISIBLE EXCEPT FOR THE POWER HUNGRY JOBSEEKERS SUPPORTING LUNGU (NOT JOBSEEKERS, BUT THOSE WHO FEAR TO LOSE THEIR POSITIONS)
Since the PF record on employment creation is being discussed here, can EL tell us how the Youth Development Fund has performed? And why are cheques issued by the Minister of Youth and Sport? Isnt it just to perpetuate the neopatrimonial political system we have been subjected to the last 3 years? Why have public officers who are under oath been lying to us about the job creation numbers? The truth is the Zambian economy doesnt have capacity to create more than 60,000 decent jobs per year. That is because the government has not sufficiently created enough economic growth opportunities to be able to create 200K decent jobs per year.
LT and bloggers out there, especially those opposed to new blood in the name of HH. The PF candidate, EL, asked his crowd and I quote, “Where are the Cyril Ramaphosas of Zambia?” end of quote. But folks, we have better than what EL is comparing Zambian entrepreneurs, who have made without political backing that EL compares. One example is his opponent, HH, from nothing to something with and by his head, I mean brains.., is now where he is. Why? Answer.., he is, like me, a beneficially of free education, but I should add, he is better than me for sure, and I bet most of the bloggers whether you like him or not. EL should have just said we want more HHs, more Kavindeles, etc, and I don’t really care which part of Zambia one should come from but just more real brains! GO HH
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Kalata kuli ba HH
ichantanshi mutende sana. Bushe abana kumushi balishani? Nga abana bali umutende ninshi chawama sana naifwe kuno ku Mansa town tuli fye umutende.
Ndefwaya ukuti mwishibe ati ifwe kuno ku Mansa town lelo twachiya ku mitingi kuli ba Edgar Lungu na ba mama ba Inonge Wina. Awe kwena, kwachiba umuntu.
Ba Lungu bachilanda ifyamano sana. So Ndefwaya ukuti mwishibe ati ifwe tukavotela aba bene ba Edgar abo Bakateka, abayashi ba Sata bashilile ifyanso fya maka pachisungu abati instruments of power .
Mubaposheko bonse kung’anda
Napwa nine
Katondo boys
2015 vote PF ( Edgar )
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Twanaka all the candidates are thieves and lairs and my i.d.o.t countrymates are busy following blindly mwema zambian mulibamusebanya sana, let them have a live debate on znbc so we hear from them all cant you see its the same lies during campaigns mulifikopo sana wake up otherwise twakulachulafye ififine
Lungu should promise to remove the forestry family tree, which sata created if indeed we are one Zambia one nation then we all should share the cake other tribes should not be used. all those 100 % appointments of bemba should be reduced to 25% so that others can also have a share of the national cake
You all should talk about this un fairness of PF. too tribalistic
Come 21 st Jan,2015 HH azalila
It simz to me dat most of the pipo talking ill abt HH are those damn kids of the PF carders send abroad to study on free GRZ money,,,,i have seen sm and how they reason….they cant see gud points…( maybe if i damn this up 4u….what HH is talking abt its like what Jesus said I will not give u fish but i will teach u to be fishermen…..hope u can understand what abt talking abt……and Lungu is promising pipo Fish just like Sata did…which in the end will not even give them