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DEC commissioner arrested by ACC

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The Anti Corruption Commission (ACC) has arrested Commissioner for the Drug Enforcement Commission (DEC) Mr. Ryan Chitoba for one count of theft of public funds totaling over K344.8 million.

Mr. Chitoba, 53, of house no. 6857, Olympia Extension in Lusaka, has been jointly charged with Commissioner for Administration and Training Mr. John Jacob Koyi and Assistant Commissioner for Administration and Training Mr. Charles Ndulumina.

ACC public relations officer Timothy Moono comfirmed the development in a statement made available to ZANIS today.

Mr. Koyi 53, of Plot 483/40A, Linda Road in Makeni, and Mr. Ndulumina, 37, of plot 220, Chainama, Lusaka were earlier arrested by the ACC for the same offence.

It is alleged that between 17th May 2006 and 30th April 2007 in Lusaka, Chitoba, Koyi, and Ndulumina, stole a total of K344, 878,420 cash by way of bank withdrawals from a Drug Enforcement Commission Asset Forfeiture Account held at Barclays Bank, Mutaba Branch.

Mr. Moono said the transactions were done without the required authority and knowledge of the Government of the Republic of Zambia.

He said the money came into their possession by virtue of their employment.

Mr. Chitoba has been released on a K50 million in his own recognizance and will appear in court on 7TH December 2007.

106 COMMENTS

  1. It is a pity those entrusted with the law are abusing it.#1 IS right one wonders what happens to the drugs seized by DEC? Chances are they are stolen by Officers from DEC and sold again to the dealers.Well done ACC and we hope your officers are clean also

  2. Such thefts by those entrusted with public office or indeed anyone should not be condoned. Well done ACC, we understand the difficult conditions under which you operate. Its good you have arrested this man because it was being alleged that being a member of the so-called “family tree” the powers that be were protecting him. There should be no sacred cows in the fight agains such vices in our country.

  3. #Former Commander in chief,Army commander,Airforce commander, National service commnander, Comissioner Drug enforcement commission, Comissioner of prisons and soon Director General of anti-corruption all are facing corruption charges.

    Where will the ordinary citizen run to?. What a country!!!.

  4. What a country indeed!!! even ACC Director General z under investigation by……. well his own organisation.Cry my beloved country

  5. Even former heads of state are being investigated for plundering the economy. So poverty pa Zed is self induced…..by these selfish leaders who are busy enriching themselves when us common men are scrounging. Let them rot in prison. Zed is not a poor country.

  6. These pipo have plunderd the national resources enough,let the law take its course whether these guyz are of the family tree or not…natotela

  7. There has always been a family tree call it a tribal tree or whatever just depends which tree did most plundering e.g

    FTJ,SATA,CHUNGU,KALUMBA,ETC,ETC.

    Viva ACC viva.

  8. #1,#5. Indeed what a country! Twashalila apatali, honestly, it will take a bit of time for most of us africans to start thinking and behaving as we are supposed to. Nangufye ni ba Chirwa bene,elect him as a President today, tommorow morning his fingers will be fully deeped in state coffers, even as educated and exposed as he is. Yalikosa fye pa Zed.

  9. #9 Miyoba,what you are saying is the bemba tribal tree has done alot plundering(atleast according to your examples) but what you are forgeting is that we have people who have plunderd and still plundering our national resources and walking our streets,take for instance the person responsible for the liquidation of Lima Bank and not forgeting the controversy behind the UNZA plot to mention but a few…and next time you shouldnt be so naive when discussing such matters,dont go the tribal way…

  10. #15 Bemba’s have more tricksters than any other, that you should admit. I think if everybody went back to his province, the most undeveloped would be where Bembas are because everybody would be cheating on each other. Balifula bakaitemwe.

  11. #16 Ask yourself you tribalist *****, are the above arrested officers from DEC bembas, the minister fired at lands is she a bemba, the former Lima Bank liquidator is a bemba + the doctor who grabbed UNZA land is a bemba,Former Commander in chief,Army commander,Airforce commander, National service commnander, Comissioner Drug enforcement commission, Comissioner of prisons & Director General of anti-corruption are all these bembas. You know what go & blush yr mouth its stinks like dead body odour

  12. #16 Some provinces in zed (wont mention here) have recorded more defiling cases than others can we say all pipo from that province are hard core defilers? No, God made each individual differenting

  13. Cry my beloved country, Zambia. The tears of # 5 are mine. Why is it that all people given power to look after others in Zambia always end up abusing their office? Strictly speaking, this goes to tell us that our systems are porous and not self checking as is suppose to be the case. Let us work on tightening the system so that these big people who are given power do not end up being trapped. I know we can do better when we have beter systems and structures in place. Viva ACC, move on.

  14. ba joze is out there in space shattle to mars and will start posting in 2k8.If anything he supports Guy Scott to take over and that,s why they differed with Sata.Meanwhile Sata is fit and disease free but the post has wadged war against him.

    #18 just name it. it’s southern province where AIDS stats are higher than any other province especially in Namwala because of wenzu ni wangu,and ndayanda chibelo

  15. #16 you still a child and unprofessional as *****ic you are to blantatly start attacking bembas. be my brother careful with remarks don,t border them on tribal lines you’re asking for something else. I ask you to desist from uttering such stupid crap as bembas this bembas that, or we will start praising you they say ‘insele malumbo’.

  16. #15 I just gave a tree and I can go on for more.The fact that the head of the tree I gave is a proven plunderer says it 4 the tree I gave, NOT bembas in general.The point is zed politics have a pattern don’t just look at the family tree as it is known.Trees are there and will always be there.

    It was a tribal comment not tribalist, there is a difference.And on record I do not agree wit #16’s comments.

  17. Its CANCER SPREADING IN ZAMBIA.WHERE DID IT START FROM???CORRUPTION IS CHILUBA AND IS PEERS.WE NEVER KNEW OF CORRUPTION IN ZAMBIA.WE HAD THESE ORGANISATION SITET AND OTHERS.THE CRIMINAL CAME AND DETSROYED THEM.LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE EVEN YOU THAT ARE READING THIS,THE CANCER IS IN YOU.ITS ONLY THAT IT HAS NOT SPREAD THROGH YOUR BODY BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL WALKING THE STREETS.

  18. # To crown it all fugitive former Director General of Zambia Security Services (Intelligence)facing numerous plunder and corruption charges.
    I wonder what these people discuss in the Joint military and security command meetings.

    Yangu icalo ubusuma, ico twashila bakabolala

  19. Wow!! thats a lot of money these guys stole.#23, I like how stupidly & very *****ically u say how proud u r.Not that am with u on the same but it’s just a shame how that one would be so proud of such nonsense.

  20. Wow!! thats a lot of money these guys stole.#23, I like how stupidly & very *****ically u say how proud u r.Not that am with u on the same but it’s just a shame how that one would be so proud of such nonsense.#16, don’t even start with the tribal thing its so lame!!

  21. #23 Habenzu
    I don’t know if you would be proud to find your 9year old first born daughter has been repeatedly defiled by your 52 year old Tonga Cattle herder.And has been infected with gonorhea, syphilis, genital hepers, genital warts and has developed fistula of the anus(unable to control anal sphincter and the feaces are just dripping).She is carrying a three months ectopic preganancy( developing in the fellopian tube)which will burst shortly to cause internal bleeding.
    Pride indeed.

  22. #23 You are proud bcoz you are born as a result of defiling to yr 9yrs mother by her 72yrs old father and you have already started sleeping your daughters who are 7 & 8yrs and one of them (8yrs) is pregnate of child. Sicken Sicken Sicken Habenzu!!!!

  23. There goes the blog again. Brother killing brother. The fact is FTJ and his gang of thugs stole millions of dollars and we need that money back soon. Including all the upcoming criminals. We need our money.

  24. Bembas are crooks, commen, trickstars and theives period. No wonder some people react when this is mentioned. The guilty are always afraid. Shut up you *****s, dont throw stones when you live in a glass house. Zambia is not for Bemba crooks alone. We want our money back.

  25. # 34, i think you are an *****, so chitoba,mulyata,HH with lima bank money,funjika,kayumba,VJ who stole a towel in a hotel are all now bembas, you chap you are supposed to be burn to ashes you don’t deserve to be existing among people. Its your father and mother who are crooks not bembas, tell muwelewele to surrender back the land he grabbed from UNZA or else his time is coming too

  26. Habenzu should be CASTRATED immediately before we have more victims. He is a self confessed rapist and defiler. He should face the wrath of the law. Shame on you.

  27. #34,i dont agree with your petty thinking,why cant you pretend to have a brain just once…LT help us to identify such characters ASAP.

  28. LT go ahead and require all of us to register on this blog. As administrator you can then remove *****s who can’t debate without insults from here. Simple!

  29. Sounds more like we almost got drug addicts and drug pushers in charge of DEC. Employ a “mouse” to guard peanuts what do you get.

  30. # 34,

    Don’t Generalize issues. Bembas are those in Chinsali, kasama, Luwingu and within the abemba nkonko land. They are noble and patriotic people.Bemba is being dented by those Katangise in Luapula shy of using their own languages: Ng’umbo, Ushi and the like. Those are true criminals, lazy *****s and right ones to be excluded from ever ruling Zed. Even KK never allowed them to get closer to the treasury or national command center.

  31. #34 Thank you for your comments, bemba is spoken countrywide, you are just making bemba more popular in this country by condemning,some tribes are just on paper, they are neither spoken nor talked about. Which is why even in Europe you find bemba spoken. #34 you are from those tribes which are nonetity, thats why u are jealous of bembas, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT BEMBA WILL BE SPOKEN EVERY WHERE – SO JUST GO AND HANG YRSELF TO NEARER TREE.

  32. Guys corruption is everywhere in the country from Mongu to Kasama Mwinilunga to Kazungula, Chitapa to Mpika. Defilement is also everywhere in the country. Corruption in Zambia did not start with Chiluba. The first form of privatisation in Zambia was with that Brotseland scam. So when you take things back you will discover that corruption has been around for a very long time. Let us learn from past so that together as a nation we can all benefit and develop. One Zed One nation!

  33. A lot at the UNIP would show you that fools like late Peter Chanshi in UNIP where only useful in f****king young vigilantees while Kamalondo in insults. Compare them to Nalumino Mundia, Daniel Lisulo, Hamphrey Mulenda, Gibson Chigaga, Cosmas Chibanda, William Willima, Haswell Mwale, Joseph Mutale, Pati Puta, Dr Kamoyo Mwale, Shamabanse, Dr. Siteke Mwale, Kebby Musokotwane, and FT Lt.General Hanania Lungu to mention but a few. All leaders made a difference except those cursed Luapula *****s.

  34. #34 So Roy Mudenda the greatest murder and robber who robbed and killed more pipo than you can count in the late 70s & 80s is a bemba hey!!!! My foot!!!!

  35. # 34 Citizen
    You are right. Real Bembas are very humble people with lots of respect. By the way what does MUKWAI mean? Katangeze and Iturians are hiding in this noble tribe.

  36. THIS BLOG IS SO HILARIOUS! ITS FUNNY TO SEE HOW A WELL MEANING TOPIC OF DISCUSSION IS DEGENARATED INTO CRAP BY YOU ‘INTELLECTUALS’.ARE YOU REALLY PRODUCTS OF OUR EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM?. LOL!.IF SO I SHUDDER AT THAT THOUGHT.

    NO WONDER YOU WILL NEVER PROGRESS YOU RETARDS!!LOL AND LEADERS WILL CONTINUE HELPING THEMSELVES TO GOVERMENT FUNDS,GET ARRESTED,GIVEN BAIL,TAKEN TO COURT,TRAILED,CONVICTED AND GIVEN SUSPENDED OR TRIVIAL SENTENCES. COMING TO THINK OF IT ITS AN EASY WAY TO GET RICH WOW!!

  37. #44 Don’t paint all the Luapula people with the same brush. Just because some individuals from that part of the country are said to have stolen does not mean anyone from there will steal or they can not be trusted. I challenge to tell all of us here on thid blog which part of Zambia is corrupt free and I will show you a hypocrite!

  38. The Grand plan should remain unwritten but with a no Luapulans policy.Never again to ever falter by allowing those Katangize with burnt lips in Luapula to ever rule.In every election lets continue making voting cartels against them. Silently alienate them in classified Defense and security jobs, treasury and policy positions until they return to katanga or resort to witching and fatting in their waters while fishing.

  39. The worst plunders are those who set on the Structure adjustments Privatisation (SAP). By the way what did Capt Lungu allied Capt Solo said. SAP stands for Stupid Applied Principles. The worst are those who steal in public daily light like those did seton the CRC theirs amounts in Trillions. Our courts should start sending these pipo to prison not just giving them bail. The courts has been very tolerant by giving suspended sentences.

  40. Look at Dany Pule, Ben Mwila with 3 wives who stole from the army quarter master, fired and today want us to believe he is Presido material. Look at Chiluba Kafupi Mpundu, Chungu, Fostain Kabwe, Aaron Chungu,Chisha who killed lawyer Patrick Zulu, Josaya Chishala, sleeping amnesia Kayope,Katele Kalumba the shrub habitant, ZK 2 billion scandal convention money Peter Machungwa, Stella Chibanda and all the league of thugs and petty blind thieves are katangize from Luapula.Zambia better without them.

  41. 55 Citizen comment on SAP this left more Zambians in poverty than stealing of millions by these individuals. Zedans start loving your country or else.

  42. Easy,
    They are criminals in all shapes we can trip them. Bembas are very noble i could prove this fact. Luapulans are not Bembas. This is why Bembas are cousins to Easterners whom they entermarry with much easy and peace but not Luapulans. Marry a Luapulan see the hell you go through following the death of your partner dies. This is the only province without traditional cousinship. Tongas, Lozis and kaonde do have but not Luapulans. Everyone stays away from their petty thieving tradition.

  43. Guyz,Chiluba was merely a bemba speaker but not bemba by tribe,he is Ushi or something,for instance check out the pipo of the c/belt who possibly speak and learn this language at school…they are all thieves right?grow up pipo..

  44. KUKU Prof. Chirwa is no person have to analyse careful. Remember SATA one time said Malawians imported a dictator. Power is always associated with idoitic behaviour

  45. #53 TRIBALIST CITIZEN so what are saying about the following: Dr Chuchu (the land grabber)chitoba,mulyata,HH (the lima bank top thief), Nyirongo,funjika,kayumba,VJ (the towel thief) and the father & Sister of one the Minister/MP who stole bags of relief food for the vulnerable pipo. TAKE OUT THE LOG IN YR EYES FOR YOU TO SPECK IN OTHERS

  46. Citizen

    I challenge you once again, tell us which part of Zambia produces corrupt free people? You seem to be fixed on people from Luapula alone and yet there are a lot of criminals from all corners of the nation, why aren’t you talking about them?

  47. It looks like in zed you need to steal in order to be rich.What a scam! This is bcoz we have no facilities for loans to buy or build basics such as a house and cars.In other countries here in africa, banks even fight for you to get a loan which you can pay back in 20years! If you get a loan to buy a house or car why steal? or go abroad to work? Pliz government make good policies in the financial sector for pipo to access money.Stealing will be a thing of the past.

  48. Which part of the country is Charles Ndulumina from anyway( arrested for that K345 Million Kwacha – about USD$93,000 theft?

  49. Which part of the country is Tetamashimba and Shakafuswa from,coz they all have corrupt minds,and captain Solo’s real name is steven lungu from luapula province,isnt it?what about former lands minister Gladys Nyirongo,i hear she’s from Mansa,what a joke pipo!!!!

  50. #41 44 53 55 56 not me

    Imposter !!!. My last posting was 29.

    LT please hurry to intitute measure to protect us from imposters.

  51. #41 44 53 55 56 not me

    Imposter !!!. My last posting was 29.

    LT please hurry to intitute measures to protect us from imposters.

  52. Citizen

    Who told you there is some form of traditional cousinship between Kaondes, Lozis and Tongas? First the Luapula people you are busy bashing are closely related to the Kaonde because they are both Lunda. The people of Luapula are also traditional cousins with the Bemba because of Luba influence. The Tongas (bantu botatwe) have an acient Luba Lunda connection and those who speak Lozi are from South Africa so where is the ‘traditional cousinship’? Yours cousins are Zwide and them groups!

  53. The only way to halt theft in public offices is to stiffen our current weak and porous laws. 25 to life would be a strong deterant…? otherwise the sutiation will continue. only richard sakala was the unlucky chap…his was more political, otherwise alot of thieves are still free….david diangamo the former CSO chief is one good example. the list is endless.shame pa zed. nisangwapo pa zed? we all would do the same if given the opportunity? bulaya is still out? stell chibanda? katele kalumba?

  54. Habenzu..! do not speak on behalf of all the tongas….you senseless chap…you uncircumsized goat? wait till you hear from my mate TONGA BULL?

  55. #5 EASY and Kuku… The point you have raised on why all our leaders are facing the law needs a deeper understanding. Partly i think its because we have executive positions without executive conditions of service. For Example Kitoba (Chitoba) Without the fake travel allowances and fake workshops. Do think from his salary he would be able to live a decent life and at the same time save invest some money from his salary for his retirement? I dont think so. May be Kitoba’s retirement is K100M ….

  56. These people have insecure jobs by virtual of being political appointees. Their careers can be cut short anytime by the powers that be. And then what next for them. What will the Army commander who is 40 years old with K100M retirement. remember without stealing he couldnt afford buying a house. so he has K100M without a house and without a job because a politician decided to cut his career short. These are human beings whos very basic instinct is survival. I’m not condoning corruption…..

  57. But as a society lets create insentives the people we give these big Name jobs. I believe good conditions of service would be a major deterant to corruption. Look at civil servants. All they do is scheme new ways to steal. They cant survive on their pay that is common knowledge, yet we expect them to survive without stealing from GRZ how? You can go to any GRZ office today look at the invoices people are using to retire the imprest. they get these invoices from friends or soweto…..

  58. law inforcement is good but we also have to look at what is the major root cause of theft by public servant. LPM lives a confortable life as presida. 12M people live below the poverty datum line. If we can pay our people reasonable wages i think that would tremendously reduce these cases. Most people in GRZ steal to survive. Of course there those that steal for selfish reasons and the should visit them. Which DEC or GRZ official would like to retire and be homeless? NOBODY.

  59. 69,
    If you don’t know culture, its significance and the tradition effects go look for insaka of elders. Luapulans being Traditional cousins to Bembas? You must be a kid without history and culture. Which bembas, from which party of the north and under what grounds is that tradition cousinship? Do you know why Bembas and Easterners meet at Ndola Golf club for a cousinship tournament every year? Do you hear remarks made while playing Golf? Do you know why KK referees their match every year?

  60. Socrates {(74),
    Army commander cannot get that little in retirement if an I.O in G 7 at captain level retires with ZK 375 Million, PS in Grade 3 retire with between ZK 525 Million -ZK 600 Million.

  61. Chitoba is Mwanawasa’s relative so close and Mwanawasa is so ashamed and embrassed. He thinks ther is no corrupt in his family . It is there big time , even in state house we hear things being donated to MMCI and ther after we don’t really know who is benefitting. If Mwanawasa want to see change it has to start from where he is. It is easy to things that are done by other and not be able to see what you do. Be careful. check yourself and beging a BIG Keep Mwanawasa CLEAN campaign. Thank you .

  62. Its shameful to have top leaders in fraud, currupt scandals. This is unheard of by many it only in Zambia where we have the entire leadership in shameful scandals. This reminds me of why Mwanawasa resigned in 1994?

  63. #77 you ***** hands off the luapula people, its you and your family who are a bunch of *****s.If you are lamba a minority tribe thats not our problem, consult your useless ancestors why you came from there.Walitumpa sana iwe chikala go and hang yourself in lufwanyama

  64. Twafwa nomba, this chitotfwa (Chitoba) is it not the same person who promoted his son to a senior position during probation period. Maybe some of these cases they need not bail. Pipo continue to repeat the same thing because they know the laws are bitting.

  65. It’s a shame that people should down play the bigger picture behind corruption.It is not a matter of which tribe in Zambia is more corrupt or not.Corruption in any form erodes the progress of any country.What we need is to espouse intelligent ideas that would lead to a formulation of the right policies to curb this.Zambia lacks a water tight system to provide checks and balances or internal controls if you may.You cannot be the same person to collect and bank funds.

  66. Mushindike uwafwa-taishindika(83),

    Uli chinangwa (a certified *****).If you detest the truth Citizen has brought up about those Luapulan criminals abusing our good will, that is your own problems. Since the Luapulan gangs entered power to sabotage our country, they rain away from their languages Ushi, Ng’umbo and such. Started denting our enduring Bemba culture, language, and image while disguising as Bembas. Yet in real terms they strategically marginalized us in their criminal/plunder GRZ.

  67. We the Bembas like Easterners throughout the Luapulan criminals’ tenure were victims of hatred and unwarranted persecution for having KK as leader. They said with Easterners we benefited more and in defacto ruled this country without them but using Alex Shapi UNIP as a rubber stamp in cover up. I will challenge you to examine the thugs administration power distribution and criminality now in plunder cases before the courts.

  68. Luapulans should never ever be given a chance to rule. !991 was the biggest blunder we overzealous brought them to the corridors of power. Had we hid KK and late Shapi’s sincere caution, all the national portfolio of 275 parastals could have been here with us. ZIMCO, FNDECO, MINDECO, MEMACO and many more could have been wisely privatized.Alas, criminals came and heartlessly sabotaged our heritage within 10 years.Indeed keep making election cartels never to let their descendants ever rule with us

  69. In kasama i recall UNIP MCC for elections Joseph Mutale and late Pati Puta kept reminding us that the Luapulans gang of thieves are not acceptable for national leadership. Such a blunder would ruin Zambia.Puta now in the Grave must be pointing his finger on us while ba Joseph Mutale like KK is saying we have been vindicated.So bane stop banding Bembas with those criminals who belong to the waters in Luapula.Indeed intermarriage with them is at owners’ risk they love too much money and shortcuts

  70. The problem we have in Zambia is a broken checks and balance system.Any right thinking individual will go beyond tribal inclination to have a go at sorting this problem.We seem to be too hyped by the CHITOBA SAGA which was exposed by the POST and TIZ.The question is why we don`t have a system that can prevent such occurancies.Are we going to wait for the POST to do its investigative journalism to tackle such issues?We need to be PREACTIVE and not REACTIVE in order to have any tangible results.

  71. The problem we have in Zambia is a broken checks and balance system.Any right thinking individual will go beyond tribal inclination to have a go at sorting this problem.We seem to be too hyped by the CHITOBA SAGA which was exposed by the POST and TIZ.The question is why we don`t have a system that can prevent such occurancies.Are we going to wait for the POST to do its investigative journalism to tackle such issues?We need to be PROACTIVE and not REACTIVE in order to have any tangible results.

  72. # 91,
    What the heck you mean when you say “We need to be PREACTIVE”. PREACTIVE, PREACTIVE, PREACTIVE. PREACTIVE in what?

  73. #93 Ba Captain
    Being PROACTIVE means thinking and acting ahead,basically this means using foresight.It`s a great method of avoiding more work down the road.
    “Work smarter and not harder”

  74. after so many years of independence there seems so many who use tribal origin to explain certain behaviour.certain tribes make up the majority of our citizenry therefore it should follow a good number of criminals and indeed upstanding individuals would be from these tribes.let us not forget “tribalism” still exists in the western/developed world too…..they just don’t speak about it publicly !!

  75. #41.You are a makaka,pumbafu,kondyongo mulya kateka,skanka pa kunya,pasopo! who told you that the people from luapula are thieves just because you know one or two people who plundered.Don’t generalize.More over you don’t even pay taxes to the zed govt. what a tribalist.shame.

  76. Iwe Socrates..are yu the famous brazilian soccer player of the philosopher? the problem with zambia is that the wage gap is too wide? senior government officials and members of parliament are the only ones that are benefiting from our resources? a friend of mine with a ZDA retired after 18 years in government and was only given about 40 million. yet some uneducated mps are allocated 250 million gratuity after two years? i do not blame former DEC chief? long sentences will deter public thefts?

  77. It was Simon Mwansa Kapwepwe who once remarked “Ba tubulu abanyina mumenshi”, this was with reference to Luapulans. In as much as the truth hurts,it’s right to say Luapulans are not and shall never be Bembas. Their culture is firmly welded to two things, witchcraft and stinking stealing.

  78. I assume they must be at 110 zambians who participate on LT.Where is the rest of the nation? sleeping? I do not think so.
    They have no access to modern day technology.So their voices can not be heard. what shame!
    This big time corruption was non existant before FTJ (God bless him).
    To day we need a regulation that will make such thieves think twice before deeping their dirty hands in the national coffers.
    We need a new generation of politicians who will call a spade a spade.Tribalism NO NO..

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