President Mwanawasa has appealed to the ruling and opposition party leaders in Zimbabwe to embrace the virtue of humility in charting the future of their beloved country that they rightly reclaimed from the colonial masters after a long and bloody liberation war.
Officially opening the Summit at Lusaka’s Mulungushi International Conference Centre today, President says the extraordinary Southern Africa Development Community (SADC) Summit is not intended to put Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe on trial over the current political situation in that country.
Dr Mwanawasa who is also SADC Chairperson said SADC can not continue to standby and do nothing when one of its members was experiencing political and economic difficult.
Dr Mwanawasa said SADC can not continue to standby and do nothing when one of its members was experiencing political and economic difficult.
‘’It would be unwise for a neighbour or neighbours to turn a blind eye when another neighbour’s house is on fire’’.
The SADC Chairperson who is also Zambia’s President said the region was at pains to see the fruits of the Zimbabwean independence struggle endangered as a result of political differences among political parties.
President Mwanawasa said that the Zimbabweans should put national interest above all the other interests and to take judicious decisions that would make Zimbabwe, the region and Africa proud.
He further said the Zimbabwean leaders should make these decisions fully aware that at critical times, great men and women have take bold steps for the benefit of posterity.
‘’That critical time has come for them and that time must be seized now’’, he said.
President Mwanawasa said SADC concern hinges on the failure by the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission (ZEC) to announce the results of the presidential elections which has given rise to a climate of tension in that country.
The situation has further been aggravated by the inability of the High Court of Zimbabwe to determine the matter speedily following opposition MDC’s appeal to compel ZEC to announce the results.
Dr Mwanawasa said this situation has left Zimbabweans, the SADC region and the international community in the dark as to who won the recent Zimbabwe elections.
The extraordinary Summit in Lusaka convened to address the post election impasse in Zimbabwe is being attended
eight Heads of State namely South Africa’s Thabo Mbeki, Edwardo Dos Santos of Angola, Mozambique’s Armando Guebuza, Malawi’s Mbingu Wa Mutharika and Joseph Kabila of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
Others are Namibia’s Hifikepunye Pohamba, Ian Khama of Botswana and host President who is also SADC Chairman Levy Mwanawasa.
President Mugabe is represented by a delegation of three ministers who include Foreign Affairs Minister Simbarashe Mumbengege, Justice Minister Patrick Chinamasa and Rural and Social Amenities Minister Emmerson Munangagwa.
Opposition leader Morgan Tshivangirai who arrived in the morning is also in attendance.
And Dr Mwanawasa who hailed the Heads of State for responding to his call at short notice noted that their presence was a clear testimony of their unwavering commitment to the achievement of the objectives of the regional body.
He urged the Heads of State to discuss the prevailing situation in Zimbabwe in an open, objective and honest manner.
‘’This Summit, therefore should focus on helping Zimbabwe to find an answer that genuinely reflects the will of the people. I have no doubt in my mind that the presence of the Zimbabwean leadership at this SADC extraordinary meeting attests to their disposition to heed our advice and their willingness to steer the country out of the current situation’’, President Mwanawasa said.
‘’The challenge before us is that we should identify ways and means of assisting our Zimbabwean brothers and sisters in finding a solution which will be acceptable to the people of Zimbabwe and all parties involved in the recent elections’’.
President Mwanawasa explained that SADC‘s intervention is anchored on the pursuit of two objectives of the regional body namely to promote common political values, systems and other shared values which are transmitted through institutions that are democratic, legitimate and effective.
In addition, he said the intervention is premised on the need to consolidate, defend and maintain democracy, peace, security and stability.
He expressed confidence that the Summit will successfully achieve its objective given the good will portrayed by the people of Zimbabwe and the region.
The SADC Heads of State have since gone into a closed door session which will culminate in the release of a communiqué on its stance over Zimbabwe.
And American Ambassador to Zambia Carmen Martinez said the political situation in Zimbabwe should be addressed amicably without violence and intimidation on the people.
Ms Carmen who commended Zambia for holding the extraordinary Summit said Africa should have solutions to its problems hence the SADC region was key in finding solutions to the situation in Zimbabwe.
“SADC urges ruling, opposition party leaders in Zimbabwe to embrace humility” Quote
That is the expected wisdom statement made. Bravo SADC you have nailed.African gains should never be reversed by those under pressure from their pay masters.
If you understand international Politics and the balance of power theory, you will sense the danger with me over this move HE has been misled in. Angola’s Dos Santos has been in power since 1975 and he’s very sensitive to such maneuvers, while SA’s Mbeki is a regional Giant who doesn’t want to be undermined in the region roles. Other Countries such as the economically strong Botswana and Namibia are in self realignment for some meaningful roles in the regional power.The DRC is den of rebels of fortune among them are the – Mai Mai,loose Interahamwe (Kinyarwanda)& Koni’s Lord’s Resistance Army.Mozambique has re-activatable Renamo, Western Province/Caprive are Mutangelwa secessionists factions.
All you future leaders and Diplomatic Corps,
I hope you are a learning unparalleled diplomacy from the South African President Thabo Mbeki. Today he stopped over at Zimbabwe House in Harare to confer with his counter part President Mugabe first before proceeding to the Lusaka summit.That is the way protocol works.
How do we convene a summit without reaching out first to the Head of state of the country under discussion after meeting and hearing from one stakeholder only Tsangirai?
Excellent speech by Levy. There is need to be frank and honest about the situation in Zimbabwe. Mugabe is trying to carry out a coup. Ursurping power includes remaining in office when you have lost elections.
Like parenthood over over rivalry children, in mediation you don’t condone acts that jeopardize impartiality of the mediator (HB 601 & HB 761).
Now that President Mugabe is not turning up, what will be achieved in his absence at the summit? Who ever advised HE over this must be fired from his job. I beat you, this glitch will bruise HE’s legacy. Instead it will haunt the same leaders next time they hold their won elections if too close to call against some overzealous non law abiding opponents.
Pragmatist you are just a Mugabe apologist. You do not know anything about dipolmacy. Top diplomats in the world UN Secreatry General, and Former Secretary General Kofi Annan have urged action and have congratulated Levy. For you Bheki is your best diplomat. Bheki is being condemned by his own party the ANC which has issued a strong statement on Mugabe.
Stick to working in a Nursing Home pragamatist and leave conflicts resolution to those who know. We are tired of your ignorance
Mr Mugabe’s Zanu-PF party lost its House of Assembly majority for the first time since 1980 in the 29 March poll, but no results have yet been released from the presidential race.
Correspondents say the summit, held by the Southern African Development Community (SADC) can achieve little without Mr Mugabe there, which is why South African leader Thabo Mbeki stopped in Harare first.
Pragamatist don’t you have anything better to do than peddling shallow thinking on the net ? You seem to keep writing all day. The old man or woman you are looking after will hurt herself while you are on the net.
Zimbabwe Foreign Affairs Secretary Joey Bimha calling the summit “unnecessary” because the votes were still being counted.
Justice Minister Patrick Chinamasa, part of Zimbabwe’s delegation to the summit, told AFP news agency that his country would not accept Mr Tsvangirai’s participation in the meeting.
“Inviting an opposition leader to a heads of state meeting is unheard of,” he said
“Inviting an opposition leader to a heads of state meeting is unheard of,”
Pragmatist,your analysis on this issue lack depth and intelligence.You are not being truthfull to yourself and are gravely misleading progress-oriented individuals.Your support for Mbeki is outrightly misplaced and bears a dangerous lack of understanding of his so called ‘quiet diplomacy’.Do you really think such a stance would have helped African countries gain independence from Colonial masters?Mbeki is the weakest link in brokering any peaceful deal.Diplomacy can only work to a certain extent.Bob is very stubborn and lacks respect for other leaders.As a matter of fact, LPM should not have even invited him because he is an illigitimate President.His mandate has no legal support or backing
i SAY, SANCTION Zimbabwe if Mugabe doesnt budge. No exporting power and fuel to Zimbabwe. Also no exporting maize and other stuff to Zimbabwe. No using Zimbabwe as a trade route with South Africa. No land transport to Zimbabwe and declare Zimbabwe a NO FLY ZONE.
If you understand international Politics and the balance of power theory, you will sense the danger with me over this move HE has been misled in.
#13 Pragmatist
You are cold hearted. Zimbabwe is experiencing the worst economic recession. Worst than Zambia’s in the 1990’s. Zimbabwe which was second to South Africa as an economic powerhouse (yes, better than Botswana, Namibia, Kenya and Nigeria) has gone to ruins in just a period of a few years. We as a neighbor just cant sit around and watch this happen. Its not fair. We must help and i commend LPM on trying. If he doesn’t achieve anything, at least he can say, “hey, i tried”. Theres a saying, “EVIL PREVAILS BECAUSE GOOD PEOPLE FAIL TO ACT”. But with your attitude, they should say, “EVIL PREVAILS”. wE HAVE TO HELP, NO MATTER WHAT.
Dispute being one of the many unflinching Zambian Patriots and advocate of Democracy that I’m, I advocate that many SADC regional heads of state turn down the call for the Lusaka summit this weekend.
My dear youngman Cheese(4,8,11 and on),
I appreciate your fragrance for my Pragmatist name and the role you have taken to copy and paste my precious dissenting views on other threads here.My last post was entry # 1 on this thread but you have taken up reposting them.Thank you for that.
Secondly,i’m the unapologetic dissenter of usurpation of power from any Democracy. I do not condone speculative and frictional ranting style picked by Tsangirai. It has the risk of setting a bad precedence in the region.
Thirdly, dressing me up some nursing home job you so wish me will not water down my gains in the world of endless opportunities. I have never seen a person with strong high level education from some public accredited schools doing just what you wish me. I have been blessed to achieve the dream of having some Globally appreciated education and corporate world work experience for years with a fortune 500 entity-Glory to God!That said, even if i was the most unfortunate God created Zambian son,i could still get a better job in open society in the world.So ask God to forgive you for despising his unfailing love and blessings he has extended to me.I have strong education and a lucrative job line.
On # 15, yes my opinion and dissent are unflinching.FYI i have already pushed them with that taste on some desk along the lines i know without regret, I’m an open minded advocate orderliness. Any agenda to discuss the resignation of Mugabe to let Tsangirai in i advocate against. That is a bad precedence that could haunt the region leaders and destabilize Africa.Sata, Biemba, Muluzi, Alfonso Dilakama, and Sakala in Angola will do the same. My lobbying circular as an advocacy orderliness is already in MICC.I have equally reflected it in my paper i presented on Friday to the World Affairs Council on SADC and the Zimbabwean “travesty”.Yes its a travesty.
Finally for the day and weak, don’t worry about my family time. We have plenty of fellowship and blessings. We are a fulfilled family and happiest ever on course on goals. But i fervently pray to to the Lord that you deal with you bitter and malicious mindset.Dissent is party of strong moral leadership that command more respect and inner fulfillment. Read broadly you will learn this fact. About Diplomacy, what don’t i know about it from academic to practical service? Unless you tell me it is learnt in heaven.
Bob is a joker,we just need bush to come and help morgan.thats the only way i think bob wil surrender.he must be found hiding in a ditch like his role model,late uncle sam.
In my view, what the Great Zimbabwe lacks is a good leader to take over from uncle Bob. I know that democracy is about numbers but frankly speaking, Tsvangirai is not the best to replace uncle Bob. I guess that’s whats worrying even the big man Bob because guys like Morgan are just freaks who do not even have ideas about what they will do to change things in Zim. Unfortunately, its democracy even fools can win elections. Take an example, you have 100 people going to vote on a certain motion, of the 100, 90 are fool hardy and only 10 are wise, who do you think would win? Fools ofcourse, at the expense of the wise few and at the expense of their wise choice. Ma rubbish! Phew!
Comfort zone Mr. Pragmatist may not be so comfortable sooner or later. If nothing is done soon there may be bloodshed in our region. Read the signals from the statements being issued by big powers – they are capable of doing anything. For our democracies to move to a higher level, I think we need to navigate thru your fears and ensure better governance for our region. Think more of the future.
Kibinda, last time I checked there was no uncle Sam found in a hole, but Saddam. I like the way you guys are trying to expound your ideological prowess, the spelling needs some work but I am perfectly happy to watch this whole scenario play out live. Good thing gentlemen, good. I say leave Mugabe to rule his Zimbabwe and you guys aspire to rule your own fiefdoms! hehehe.
I understand with penetrating vivididy the lesson learned from world history when neighbours in Europe stood by idly while uncle Adolf proceeded to almost ruling the world, so unless Mugabe starts killing people let us just leave the amn be, and tell that Tvangirai to go home and wait another four years, maybe then he might stand a chance, as Mugabe himself is close to dying anyways.
Idea: Let us start a free Zimbabwe liberation movement backed up by an army and try to topple Mugabe if it wouod make certain people happy, rather than calling each other nursemaids. I am sure SADC will sponsor to the fullest, just like we did with Savimbi.
Namibian, shut up man, you have not the faintest incling of what you are talking about.
I will make it crystal clear as soon as you can tell me where to find you.
If Mugabe gets away with this, it’ll mean next Mbeki will aspire to rule forever and then the Namibian, Malawian, Angolan, Mozambican and our very own LPM will also aspire to rule forever because they’ll see how easy it’ll be to get away with it. This is why we must deal with Uncle Bob as soon as possible before others start contemplating doing the same. If weeds are growing amongst the crops, you should weed them out. Its time to pull Uncle Bob out. He has done far more worst things to Zimbabwe than Ian Smith and Roy Welensky (not sure of the spelling) combined. He is worst than the evil Aparthied govt which was there in South Africa and he must be removed.
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The impala runs when its chased by the lion, doesn’t it still run when chased by the Leopard. My point is, the oppression is still the same. The oppressor has just changed skin color.
ba #19 PRAGMATIST
Since you defend Uncle Bob so much, go spend a few years in Mugabe’s Zimbabwe and we’ll see if you’ll have the same view of Mugabe.
Agreed, Zambia that is sense. That ANC comrade dude should take a proper exercise in listening, or reading, or whetever the hell it is we are busy with here, instead of telling me I have not the faintest incling of what I am talking about. We have experienced apartheid along with the South Africans as you know, but uncle Bob sure has had his time and needs just to retire. We would gladly accept him in Namibia, though without a farm.
So what has prompted Levy to call for a summit on Zimbabwe, particularly as he, being a member of Comesa, never insinuated one when fellow Comesa member Kenya was embroiled in the worst scenes of violence seen since the Rwandan genocide of 1994? So what has gotten under Levy’ bonnet?
I will not say much, apart from reminding him that he has clearly overstepped his boundaries. As an African, particularly one at the helm of a nation, he is supposed to have better understanding and political sophistication
But what’s worrisome is that this is the same man who
made another faux pas on Zimbabwe exactly a year ago, probably after watching too much of that Western tragedy, the Titanic.
Levy had to eat humble pie in Dar es Salaam when Sadc censured the West over Zimbabwe after which he despatched his deputy, Banda, to do the damage control here last April.
# 33 ANonymous, i’ll ask again
How many people should die of hunger for you guys to finally admit there is a problem in Zimbabwe. How many people should be left jobless for you guys to admit theres a problem in Zimbabwe. How many people should cross borders illegally for you guys to admit theres a problem in Zimbabwe. How many prostitutes must be in the streets of livingstone for you guys to admit theres a problem. How many people should be beaten for speaking up in Harare for you guys to admit theres a problem in Zimbabwe. How high must the inflation rate be. You guys want 95% unemployment, 7 million illegal immigrants in South Africa, 1,000,000% INFLATION.
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Will that do it for you guys. Maybe higher. Or maybe you want violence to break out first like Kenya then you can act. The fact that Levy never acted on Kenya does not mean he should do the same on Zimbabwe. Mind you even people from Zimbabwe dont like Mugabe and are constantly crying as they see there once powerful country go to ruins. Annonymous, since you defend Mugabe so much, you also go spend a few years in Mugabe’s Zimbabwe and we’ll see if you still have the same attitude.
I think all you guys can afford to see the fuuny side of the zim situation because you are seeing things from afar and it apears you are watching a movie.the truth is peaople are sufferig in zimbabwe and its not the time to philosophize and theorize,the truth is bob needs to disappear by whatever method.zanu has milked that country to nothing,they send their kids to rhodes university,they drive the best of cars etc,our people are dying,unemplyed and are hiv positive.could a hitman kill bob p[lease.thats the solution.
Number 32 and 33 can you stop Plaigarising!!!! for God sake this is from the Herald Paper (editors column). hahahha
I agree totally with 35 and 37……..by the way 32 and 33 need to be dealt….. serious plaigarism i too have read that Herald comments what du you expect its Mugabe’s paper after all!!!
JOKE OF THE DAY
Robert Mugabe was asked when he’s going to bid the Zimbabwean pe farewell,Looking puzzled he asked,”Where are they going?”.
hahahah 39 ……….wat did you mean i dont get it!!
i meant people not pe
its funny now hahahah!!!
LMAO/….HAHAHAHA # 39
SORRY TO SAY BUT BA MBEKI NABO BA PUBAKO
The official rate of annual inflation in Zimbabwe has rocketed past the 100,000% barrier, by far the highest in the world, the state central statistical office said yesterday. Second-placed Iraq has inflation of 60%, according to international estimates.
In a brief statement, the statistics office said inflation rose to 100,580% in January, up from 66,212% in December.
The new official figure was still well below the rate calculated by independent analysts. They estimate the real inflation is closer to 150,000%, citing supermarket receipts showing that the price of chicken rose more than 236,000% to 15m Zimbabwe dollars a kilogram between January 2007 and January 2008. Slower increases in
Let me make it clear that those are not my comments on Zim’s inflation but data from maimiherald.com before I am accused of plagiarism.
news coming out of Zimbabwe is that all the votes will be recounted next saturday
During his meeting with British Prime Minister Brown President Mbeki of South Africa is reported to have told Mr. Brown that “Zimbabwe is not a province of South Africa…”. He was right.South Africa IS the province of Zimbabwe. Just look at the man grovel at the feet of Mugabe! How utterly disgusting to see a man of Mr. Mbeki’s stature sink so low!! Yes, U R an utter embarassment to the whole of Africa, but especially to your own country!!
What I have come to know is that there are very few world political leaders that are patriotic to the countries they rule. Even Bush is not, they are only patriotic to themselves. They worry about themselves than the nation they rule. So I am not shocked at Bob or Mbeki, is Bush still not president even after starting an illegal war? How many of his peole are dying? ow many ave died in Zimbabwe? They are all the same. We need CHIEFS not presidents.
Someone already made this suggestion, but I just want to remeinforce it: When Zimbos start dying on the streets of their cities, towns and villages, let them all, in their millions, flock to South Africa for asylum. They shouldn’t go to Zambia, Malawi, Botswana or any of their neighbouring countries. No! Let them all flee into RSA and ask Mr. Mbeki to take care of them!! Let’s see how he likes it.
Levy, SADC and even Mbeki are doing all they can for Zim despite what it seems in my opinion. There only option is diplomacy in one form or another. Something has to give in Zim.
I am sure Bob Marley would have had a lot to sing about our contemporary times. I was just listening to Bob Marley’s classics in which he was singing about Africa uniting (Zimbabwe liberation). It has left me pondering on issues that have kept Africa missing the main thing. Even in the age of globalisation, Africa has continued to limp and now it’s crawling to it’s grave. By this time Africa should have gathered itself and should be behaving more mature (Free from POVERTY). Please Africa, GROW UP. Look at the emerging economies in Asia,even the west is scared of the risen Asian forces. Africa GROW UP and stop being petty.
I just finished reading the Editorial comment in The Herald ( Harare).My heart really bleeds and my mind clogs to read such crap coming from some editor blessed with operable eyes and ears.It is so surprising that people in this world still find solace living in the shells of other people.Job security aside,the reality Mr Editor is that you are the greatest fool armed with the power of the editorial pen.You are totally a shadow of yourself and have no morals.All LPM is trying to do is create some semblance of sense in your “sinking Titanic”.Perhaps you are so inept at accounting for your relatives that you have failed to note that your wife,daughters, and sisters are prostitutes in the
streets of Lusaka and Livingstone.How dare you even think about disrespecting LPM when the man has shown sense in the nonsense you and your stupid comrades have created in a country once revered.Who cares if this situation occurred in Angola or Mozambique?We do not support it either.All we are saying is that African leaders do not have the luxury in modern day politics to oppress people.We will not be discouraged to fight for what we are entitled to just because people like you are stupid and foolish.If you cannot embrace our forthrightness,dig yourself in a hole and stay there you stupid imbecile.We know you want to keep your job but your days can be counted on one hand
What Bob and cronies are doing is a clear violation of the rights of the people Zimbabwe.Such human rights’ violations will not go unpunished in the new free world.If you sin against your people,we will exact the same and even hundred-fold.Leaders should learn not to take people for granted.We are not stupid to watch you imbeciles drag our countries into turmoil, pitting us against our own brothers and sisters for your selfish goals.We will mount a solid new revolution for the young and educated, coz we have more sense than you old fools hell bent on past achievements.These are new times which require new and vibrant ideas.We are watching with a bird’s eye view and we will activate our
revolutionary launch-pad.You have run out of ideas so we need to take the driving seat and steer the ship in a direction of prosperity.
Brown ‘a tiny dot on this world’
Zimbabwe leader Robert Mugabe has called Prime Minister Gordon Brown “a little tiny dot on this world”.
He was responding to Mr Brown’s warning to Mr Mugabe that he is “appalled” at the latest developments in the country.
“Brown is the world? Sure, the world is losing patience, but I know Brown is a little tiny dot on this world,” Mr Mugabe said.
Zimbabwean police have banned political rallies amid growing tension over the disputed presidential election.
Everybody watch what is happenin
www [dot] mpelembe [dot] net / znbc-tv
Thanks man for ZNBC TV link… even though you are Crazy
Mbeki and Mugabe are the same. There is nothing Mbeki can resolve in Zim at the moment. Given a chance, Mbeki will behave like Mugabe. Thanks to ANC and Zuma, his maneuvers to cling to ANC leadership were thwarted.
Levy, hats off thats the way to go, we do not want to see blood in Zim. Peace loving Zambians and pipo around the world are with you. If it fails, at least you will have tried your best. More importantly you have voiced out in your capacity as Zambia and SADC head.
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Mr Pragmatist u are useless, what diplomacy are you talking about when people are suffering???? People are dying of hunger. Children can not go to school; mothers and daughters have turned into prostitutes to survive, so demeaning moreover in this era of HIV! I thought with your education, you look at things more objectively; maybe it explains why Mugabe is reported to have 7 degrees and he still behaves that way. You are even boasting of God’s abundant blessings. I wonder why God blesses chaps like you?? Where on earth, a country not at war with over 10,000% inflation????
Long Live Mugabe, Long live Chimurenga. Land is the most important asset for any citizen. The Liberation struggle was not aimed at dishing everything to foreigners the way your Mwanawasa has done. He is a brain-washed leader wasting his people’s time. Pamberi!
# 53 you are wrong, its not the sinking Titanic, but the “submerging canoe”.
I’m gay
I quote” Mugabe must really be unpopular to lose elections which his special security and ZANU-PF rigged”. End of Quote.
Objectives of the Zimbos whoudl be simple and basic
1. Remove Mugabe and replace him with any frog which can rule with consensus.
2. Continue with Land reforms.
3. Re-democratise by removing articles in Constitutions which give power to Dictators.
4. Vote out Morgan T is the next Election before he turns into an un educated embicile like our Kafupi.
Then we shall see the great Zimbos again.
Mwaiche Pragmatist
Your blind support for Mugabe is so alarming that I`m beginning to wonder what type of drugs have contaminated your brain.
Mugabe and his fellow demagagues must realise that their ensatiable appetite for power will plunge Zimbabwe into absolute chaos.
Whether Tsvangirai is ready for the challenge to lead Zimbabwe or not is not for Mugabe to decide but the entire electorate.If Tsvangirai managed to get the majority votes(50% + 1),then he deserves to be the next president.
Someone wrote, “We will not remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”
Well done, my President – of the Republic of Zambia. keep it up too.
All those Mubage supporters imagine your mothers and sisters getting ‘shafted’in livingstone and lusaka to put bread on table to feed your family. its SICK ryte?…… then plz let sence prevail!!!!
Pragmawhatever, i have nothing to say to you after i read your cooments but to say that you are such an asshole. how can you support the old man after what he has done to us. you know nothing about whats happening on the ground of my beloved Zimbabwe.
#12 Crazy Zambian, couldnt agree with you more. anything possible must be done as long as it will force that old man to step down. i think what was done in Iraq must be done here also. i will be happy to see that man hanging on a rope like they did to his role model Saddam.
#3. Pragmatist, i’ve seen that you think that Mbeki is the best diplomat. if were following all the mediation efforts that he has done between ZANU PF and MDC, you will see that his quiet diplomacy didnt help not even one bit. now i dont see why see you are praising him for passing through Zim on his way to Zambia. give me one good reason why Tsvangirai was suppossed to meet Mugabe before the Summit. Mbeki is nothing close to a mediator tha an ally of Mugabe Thats why he passed through Zim to be told what to say at the summit.
No wonder why Zuma won the ANC Presidency. If i knew you, i would punch you in the face.
let us be open enough to everyone why do we held elections when bob and his followers want to win allthe time.it is better not to have if they want to remain in paliament but i can say if people of zim say they are no longer intrested with them they must go we are tired with them let go for new release the results .mbeki tell mugabe the truth .do not hide pliz. do you fear him. do your job .you are protected. usamukwate haatyise.they are now act like kids people like chinamasa,ndlovu n and others. please live zimbabwe going on.noone has more powers of this land than others.warvets keep quite you nothing thanks
#62 U probaby left ur relatives and enjoyin urself in a foreign country, as usual, U do not send anything and got a farm that is guarded by 12 yr old veterans.Or suffering from the bob brain-washing.
I think the pragmatist is out of touch. How many times are we going to stand by and watch Mugabe drive his country down the hill and pretend nothing is happening. Please read your international relations very well and then come back to the forum. Even Cuba that was closed to anything western is now taking drastic reforms, why because there is no place for populist manouvres now and besided Mugabe is only as popular as he can implement draconian tactics!! Please wake up, Mwanawasa said almost the same thing last year at a SADC meeting and Mugabe walked out, what guarantee is there that he will not walk out. You see it is this same thing of soveregnty that is being abused the world is changed
What humility is Mwanawasa talking about? He is one of the most conceited leaders we have ever had. When his heart misses a beat, he is off to UK. He even has a personal budgetary expenditure for his heart while the rest of us are like goats..when sick, God for us all since the grave yards are nearly full. Doctors and nurses are so poorly paid that each day is a gamble if at all one would be attended to by a doctor. At UTH, water is hardly available through out the day. Levy is a selfish, egoistical and corrupt leader
Spare Levy Realist! HE meant very well. Short of calling Robert anything, out of the respect I think he once deserved, power has corrupted him to a point dementia.It now about him and not Zimbabwe.He does’nt care what is happening to economic refugees he has created creeping under barebed wire border fences to escape hunger…nurses, teachers and police women coming into Livingstone to beg to be shagged and be paid billions of Zim $$ to put half a plate on the table.
Bottom line is, kenneth kaunda should speak out. if tabo mbeki cant then let kk say it- they all OWE kk big time!