Zambian High Commissioner to South Africa, Leslie Mbula, has said the number of Zambians affected by the xenophobic attacks in Johannesburg has risen to 114.
And Mr. Mbula has said only 30, out of the 144 Zambians, have expressed willingness to return home while others have decided to wait, hoping to resume with the running of their businesses once the violence was over.
He said eight Zambians have just been discovered at the temporary shelters set up in various parts of South Africa’s commercial capital.
He said so far, apart from damage to property, there has been no death or serious injury reported among the Zambian community in that country.
He said in a statement to ZANIS today that the Zambia mission in that country carried an on-the- spot check, which revealed that by Friday, there were 57 Zambian victims sheltering at Jeppe police station, 44 in Cleveland police station, and one at Alexandra police station,.
Mr. Mbula said eight Zambians were at Primrose Methodist church while four others were sheltering at Johannesburg Central Methodist church.
On the plea for Zambians to return home, Mr. Mbula said the High Commission was negotiating with bus owners on how they could assist those willing to return home.
Meanwhile, the high commissioner has advised Zambians traveling to South Africa to exercise caution by avoiding visiting informal settlements and townships, which were targets of the current xenophobic violence.
Lately, South Africa’s unemployed population, mostly youths in informal settlements have been attacking foreigners saying they have taken up their jobs.
Development Specialist,
I acknowledge reading your rhetoric centered on National Development in the prism of the prevalent Privatization, empowerment, public information flow, protectionism, and education policies you disparage. As much as we share some points you have raised, I find you to be an odd & hilarious spinner entrenched in failed philosophy of “Statism” wittingly pushing for socialism and interventionism. Yours has the characteristics of subordinating the Governed unconditionally to the state, the social apparatus of compulsion and coercion, unless you reflect.
Mpombo still says its a blessing in disguise? Its time we started treating out neighbouring countries the same way they treat us. Of course government officials cannot believe Zambians were cught up in the mess, because they are never exposed to such things when they travel to SA. Zambia, being nice is okay, but be nice to people who are nice to you.
Your spin of assigning Zambians to the state the task of guiding the citizens and of holding them in tutelage is not progressive. Look through your spin what its for, it has the element of building a system of restricting the individual’s freedom to act in business or otherwise. It seeks to mold the Governed destiny and to vest all initiative in the government alone. It’s time to absorb the free-market/ political ideas with reverential devotion & not awe. Communism failed the past; you know that government interference and usurpation of progressive ideas in line with business had replaced the entrepreneur spirit and would inexorably the result socialized failure.
Do I believe in protectionism? Strangely yes sir dependent of the economic phase! My key issue here in discourse is how to reconcile multilateral discipline with policy flexibility needed for industrial development in developing countries. I know that developing countries do not need high tariffs for all sectors and all the time. But they should have the option of using tariffs on a selective basis as and when needed for progress in industrialization so should we in Africa in many vulnerable sectors. We need flexibility as developing countries in using trade policy for industrial development.
I strongly believe that in a process of sequential build up of competitive industries under our temporary infant industry protection, the optimal level and structure of tariffs we devise would change over time. Consequently, focusing on the needs of our few remaining industries or taking current levels of our regionally designed tariffs as the permanent basis for commitments on the world market could subsequently present serious setbacks to our technological upgrading and capital inflow.
Ba Pragy mwebanensu cilishani kanshi tata.
Development Specialist,
Focusing on short-term benefits to the neglect of longer-term industrialization needs if we revert to isolationism and too much protectionism could lock us into the current pattern of lack of industrial specialization. This would make it difficult to move up on the technology ladder with time. This said; I’m not indifferent to the call for broadening the market and investment information flow database in consistency with “efficient markets” principles in the market place.I fully understand market and Political Economic variables to the extent that we could have a sustainable insightful discourse here & off the blog before Zambians.
I thought this war was over, but it’s getting from bad to worse.
Batata ba Pragy cilishai kanshi yewe.
Any protracted failure to consider raising the trumpet through smart & targeted discussions of these intricacies in tariff and infrastructure sought after multilateral /Bilateral so called soft loans, instead going for simplistic and blanket reductionism talks is dangerous to the future of our childrens. Such may harm our countries that may require higher tariffs in some situations and industrialization for certain periods of time.
NOTE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KEY DEVELOPMENT STAGES WE NEED TO CONSIDER
Sectoral specialization
An early stage of industrialization, exploiting natural resources and typically requiring both skilled professionals & unskilled labor
-Diversification
-Increased internal integration
-Industrial maturity
-Industrial maturity
Support and protection for industries varies at different stages of Nation-State Building
During the initial expansion in resource-based typical of Zambia, and labor-intensive manufactures short of technology, the support and protection provided to industry will likely be phased out after a relatively short period of learning and expansion in world markets, since such sectors tend to be technologically less demanding. My take is that protectionism should not be permanent & broadened phenomena if we have to move to a developed state..
Peace & blessings
In 2006, I was forced to intervene in an incident in Kapirimposhi where two guys, aged about 20 to 25, started insulting an elderly Somali lady for no reason other than that she was Somali and was dressed in Islamic garb. Apart from the fact that the lady was old enough to be these lads’ grandmother, I took offense to the gratuitous racist tirade they were meting out. I was also sickened by the silence of the other Zambian men who thought it was hilarious. It has always been said that atrocities are not just caused by acts of evil men, but are also assisted by the silence of good men. There are a lot of good South Africans who have elected to stay silent. History will be the judge!!
Typical African. Why kill? I do not care whether its Zimbabweans who have been killed but a life is a life. We know what these people have been through but it is not an excuse. Surely there are better ways of doing things. This must be painful for those Zambians who genuinely are working there.
After all the noise KK made for them, this is how they repay us?
I was in a night club where i meet several south African guys sitting and charting in “Zulu” language i think. As i walked passed the group i sure knew they were from SA and the looks on their faces was not one of welcome or friendliness.
Then one of the guys from the group decided to say hi to me and i gave him a hand. i told him i was from Zambia and he said he was from SA and the rest of his friends. He introduced me the other guys in the group i felt not to stay and chart with them.
Then i realized these people are really haters. you read about Xenophobic south Africans on the internet or paper when you meet in person they really are.
PRAGMATIST IS TALKING VERBOSE GIBBERISH.WE TREATED OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS FROM SA WITH COMPASSION LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING DURING THE APARTHEID ERA.WE EXPECT THE SAME WHEN IN THEIR COUNTRY.
Ba Pragmatist!!!….as my english teacher always told me…”use simple english to communicate”…We dont need to start taking out dictionaries here..this is not a philosophy lecture or a literature in english lesson…..let your ideas flow in a simple and straight forward manner….As for the Zambian high commission in SA why has it taken them so long to respond to the crisis…Its seem our people in these missions abroad are just on holiday…muchinje!!!!!
Prag, as usual, moron par excellence. Those who have been here long enuff will remember him as incorrigible and will always debate to himself issues unrelated to the one at hand. Then in a flash, he will show his intelligence by contributing wisely. Maybe its that time of the moon!!!
The lads exhibiting xenphobic acts are those who have closed themselves out to a better SA. I have associated myself over the yrs with SA’s who know the better side of co-existance. Those one perpetrating these acts are thugs. I remeber one day getting lost in Jozi only to find out we were heading towards Tembisa. You go in in Tembisa alive, but its debatable if you will come back alive. Thats SA for u guys.
Ka Mutumwa (18),
Muntuza or mutumwa means demon. You are just a “Miserable Creature” with a tendency of hibernation whenever the blog takes an intellectual discourse phase and reemerge when time has consistently forgotten about your unnecessary island vacation announcements.Development Specialist and Pragmatist are squaring each other on National development, privatization, endless external debt contractions, citizen empowerment and economic Protectionionism.The Debate has been on for the past 3 days. Why should they be debating with elementary level lingo when the issues at hand are above that level. Not everything is at your level.
Not surprising to read your rubbish swing.Your small clogged brain is ever at variance with debates that have serious intellectual dimension.You don’t have the guts to speak smartly a challenge you are yet to put down.When the blog takes the dimension of insults, you are thrilled and in ecstatic mode but agitated only when the threads move above your level miserable creature.
Mutumwa (Muntuza,
You visit the following threads to acquaint your miserable soul on the debate:
“Zambia will not reposes foreign investment, assures Mutati”Posted on May 27th, 2008
“Only Three Zimbabweans Apply for Asylum so far”Posted on May 29th, 2008
“Japan to Provide Billions for Infrastructure in African countries”Posted on May 28th, 2008
South Africans who suffered discrimination and apartheid U-turn to uphold the apartheid they had fought against clearly shows how the heart of man is desperately wicked beyond cure, who can understand? Attacks on foreigners in my case go to show that the Boers were justified to mistreat the black South Africans. This behaviour apparently nullifies the right for any South African to justify their bloody fight to dislodge racist South African regime when they go to demonstrate they too are inherently “racists.” They also lose the right to speak authoritatively against those who killed them.
Our zambian Govt. must ask the SA Govt to compansate for the lost items by our affected brothers & sisters. SA is developing its economy from the resouces being drawn from Zambia. we have a number of SA, all over the mines in Zambia, some of whom are doing white color jobs even though they do not deserve these types of jobs. worse still most of them are doing jobs of “spade & wheelbarrow” which can easily be done by our people here to sustain their living. No SA’ns bealieves that Zambia is a poor country due to hefty salaries they get when they are here.
our leaders can’t do anything to south african govt otherwise they will be barred from attending mornigton clinic. Mozambique had evacuated thousands of it’s citizens. but Zambia is still yet able to secure a bus for the affected. shame on our government.
Does someone on this blog know KK’s comments or reflections on the unfolding xenophobic events in SA?
Zambians are always peace loving they will never kill foreighners for the sake of protecting their “perceived national jobs”.
South Africa is were they are totally because of what the WHITES have done to develop that country.Blacks because of their stupidity have decided to kill others were they did not sow,shame.
You cannot run a country full of illiterates in top positions all in the name of being a South African,you MBUZIs go to school than thriving on crime.Who killed LUCKY DUBE? fellow Blacks all because they believe in crime and free things.MA LABBISH !!!
Black South Africans have voted for Zuma (Zulu by tribe)who strongly feels blacks need to be liberated ,but from what? I feel all things will lead to black uprising against whites in south africa one day.
Time for vengence is long gone,all they need is co-existence with foreighners wether black or white.
I compare Zuma to Sata locally both are JOCKERS in every aspect of life…serious oppotunists in order to kill their nations.
Three years ago I met a white South African. After knowing that I was Zambian, he apologised for what he was going to say. He said that he wasn`t being racist but blacks have ruined the country and he had decided to migrate to Ausie. He spoke about crime and all that. I felt very unconfortable with him and thought this man is an *****. God! How wrong I was.
I deeply fee sorry for our brothers and sisters who are mistreating others like this. I remember some years ago, I went to a private High School in Ndola with some of the children of some South African, Mozambique an and Angolan politicians who kept their families here in Zambia for safety. Not only that, we Zambians played a major role to help all our neighbors fighting for liberation. We never beat or chase them away. There a lot of South Africans working in Zambia and they have good jobs that some Zambians can take. We never fight them. South Africa, has found also nieghboring countries as a dumping ground for their cheap products, e.g shoprite checkers and the others. We never loot th
I also wanted to remind the pragmatist, this is not a column where you go and cut and paste philosophical ideas for people to read. A good philosopher is one who reasons with a critical mind and brings his\her ideas to the level where ordinary people can understand him|her otherwise all is vanity!! Give us your views using your own words. The more educated you become, the more wise and simple you are to society (unnomous Philosopher)
Let’s hope Zambians are learning from this South Africa Xenophobia senario. Let us also treat foreigners the same way they treat us in their countries. Right now there is an influx of Zimbabweans doing jobs meant for Zambians. We as Zambians must learn. We as a nation has really suffered and our economy is as bad as the way it is now because of the sacrifice we made as Zambians.Now this is how they are repaying us.
I think Mr Pragmatist ate too many dictionaries for breakfast, now he has to puke them out.
I’ve just woken up from my sleep and to come here and read this story is annoying. But to have to put up with Pragmatist’s incoherence, I’m considering some more sleep. Come off it!!
Yaku tata-You should have reminded your South Afican mate about what has happened in some European countries where there are no black people-Serbia etc. And by the way, crime and violence are not only in South Africa. I can even speculate that the guy would not have emigrated to Aussie if there was still aparthied in SA. Don’t get me wrong, I strongly condemn the madness that is going on in SA but I don’t think race has much to do with it.
Zambians should stay in zed and develop the country. Forget South Africa. I have never been there and I have no immediate plans of going there either. People expecting to be treated the same way we treated South Africans and other foreigners are just dreaming. Some of these people are not as exposed as we Zambians so expecting the same hospitality we give to others is just wishful thinking. We should be happy with our country.
One Zambia One Nation
In fact everybody in Southern Africa should just stay in their home countries and develop them. I can see RSA going down the third world route: civil war or tribal war or worse race relations. Mozambique and Malawi are not bad countries, so are Zambia and Zimbabwe. We should learn to develop our countries. Let the South Africans deal with their own issues, whatever, the may be.
#35. Good thinking and this applies to all people in other countries other than RSA.Lets go back home and develop our country.
The “silence” or near lame condemnation by African states especially the former Front Line Southern African states of inexcusable mass murders by South Africans of African immigrants is deeply disturbing. These countries should have voiced their concerns and deep condemnation of this “New Apartheid South Africa.” Segregation of any kind is still apartheid whether carried out by blacks or whites. SADC nations should call an emergency meeting and unequivocally condemn this violence which appears unprecedented in African history. It steals away our stand to condemn any threat of injustice anywhere as Africans. Martin Luther King said, “Injustice anywhere is a threat of justice everywhere.”
The violence witnessed in SA can happen anywhere including Zambia if education and economic empowerment continue to elude a good percentage of our population. Ignorance and lack of compassion make communities beat a thief to death for example. The govt needs to give the public education on the consequence of taking the law into their hand. Our ladies are stripped naked by unruly boys for “indecent” dressing, a thing which is so dehumanisng. A concentration of illiterate, poor and miserable people in shanties like those in SA is a recipe for disaster. Zambia should see how it can get rid of shanties and ensure every child goes to school, failure to send children to school should attract jail!
Sickening situation & sad indeed. If all Zambians came back home, all South Africans must leave Zed too. A tooth for a tooth period
Any news should last but nine days, on the tenth day strategies to tackle the issue must be proposed for implementation. But here we are……going nowhere slowly. Can GRZ tell us how it intends to tackle the crisis long term so that Zambians can regain confidence in their home office.
South Africa is not worth losing your life or being treated as though you were subhuman.
Brothers and sisters come back home
To come back home for what? gone are the days when I slept on the floor, had one face towel functioning as a bath towel for a family of 8. No way coming home my friend
#1,3,4 and 5 chani pita chizungu can someone translate please. Guys if you can please erke out a living for yourself where you can. Much as everyone wants to come home to develop one’s country if the politics are not right as the situation is right now, you are better off where there is political will for development not these clowns of Governments we have around here.
#28 you should have left your contribution with he word ***** as the last word, yes most apartheid afrikaans cannot believe that they are ruled by a black man, so your white friend is an ***** let him go back there instead of practising his racism on aborigines who are the natives of australia and are being persecuted by these ungrateful whores
Philosopher,
My dear young man, your exclusionary notion in the battle of ideas has no platform whatever countervailing force you want to be in the face of diversity & strength. Instead, it keeps exposing you as the same casualty of time on ground events. You are not worth taking to heart seriously beyond laughter & usual write-off.Engaging and devoted patriotic minds with genuine concern for the future of our progressive country beyond a talking shop are able to catch your internal strife & lack of balance.
There is no point calling eople who established themselves in anther country.Developing zambia does not mean one should be in the coutry.I am very sure most of those zabians are just trying to earn a good life but have not forgotten home. I am sure they send money home when thay can <st of those i know hae a lot of projects back home run by families whilst they come to visit regularly to monitor their envestments.
those that are calling them back must know that its not easy to cross borders and to earn a living in another country.as far as i knw its nly and only in Zambia where foreiners find t so easy to settle and be accpted if not worshiped
Reformers have selflessly placed Zambia on a path to her Greatness. Democracy & economic emancipation are evolving. It would be irresponsible for me or and progressive Zambian to dwell & build a fish pond philosopher into a point of contention. We all know that leadership is not only transformative, but accommodating all citizens. That is in principle with our realized practical democracy. Hilarious jokers like too have a place though Blogs condone your type for entertainment purposes only.
Thanks though for mistaking me to a Philosopher. Unlike you putting a philosopher’s tag on yourself, I ‘m no closer to that discipline. I dwell on political-economic theories of Great men analyzing where their arguments best serve our Zambian causes. Talking of “Efficient Markets, privatization, citizen empowerment, industrialization and debt contraction” has nothing to do with Philosophy. I would not even zero philosophical arguments because I lack passion & strong background in that discipline. Talk of Political-Economy and Public policy, I have some lines.
It would be irresponsible for me or any fellow progressive Zambian to dwell & build a fish-pond philosopher that you are into a point of contention in public discourse.
what’s wrong with those Zeds refusing to come back? they want to come back in coffins olo what? just come back home, kulibe ati hoping the situation calms, and what if it doesn’t, that’s when you will decide to come back home?
I don’t dwell on Xenophobic Attacks continuously as i have already expressed my disgust.Instead i zero on political-economic advocacy.Believe beyond any doubt that “politics & the economy stops at the water’s edge” even in this sad development.Like Anonymous (35) i believe its time to build our own economies as much as the issue of Global immigration will never be resolved 100%.whinnying over what we did in the liberation struggle years is not a solution.
Instead we need to apply our security and policy dockets in the regional institutions to give professionally documented dossiers to our policy makers on the basis of this development. Personally I concur with the notion that “deepest causes of this violence lie in the deep socio-economic challenges of our countries. Poverty and hopeless deprivation continue to exist building tension over scarce resources”. In the current climate of rising prices many of these tensions of this kind may be heightened even wider and uncontrollable.
The question to ask every this time around is, “are our countries economies stupid? “ Only then will you appreciate the genesis of these Social outbursts and not the so called philosophy of yours. South Africans believe ANC Government is circumscribed by the regional liberation struggles & not identified with majority of them entrenched in deep hopeless poverty.
Pragma TITS….
#34\Look at my post and look at yours. You will find you have already agreed with me. It is not just the colour of the skin mind you. Ever heard of a Welsh man complaining about the English being racist?
#34 What happened in Rwanda should have taught us a lesson. How about Sudan, Liberia, DRC and the rest?
Eish thank God zambia is in peace though LAZY(lets face it we are fregin lazy) but peaceful.
Pragmatist says:
“Japan or any other successful nation did not start with protectionism following their defeat and take over by the Macarthur administration.”
My comment:
Osati ku nama bantu imwe, the two world wars erupted because of the mercantilist model(protectionist). The balance of power system under the concert of europe could not prevent both wars bcoz protectionism was rampant; Hence, the formation of IMF, WB & GATT(now WTO). Free trade is supposed to foster cooperation & not conflict(neo-liberal assumtion).
African-state barriers are nothing compared to the formal & informal trade barriers placed by the developed nations. Remember that aid is a tool of exploitation.
Gentlemen, my family and i are not coming back.We are doing fine here.I would prefer to be killed here than to come back home and face starvation to death.
Is it true that when South Africans operated on the heart of Sata recently, they inserted xenophobia in it but since it was xenophobic naturally, the two negatives formed a püositive whence his recent good behaviour?
I am pleased that S.Africans have come to be the first frontline soldiers against globalization by their violence against foreigners. What this means is that all nations MUST do their UTMOST best to take care of their citizens first before showering foreigners with gifts, resources and a better life, the way the MMD have been doing. They have completely given everything away forcing multitudes of their citizens onto the streets to S. Africa to seek a life! Now the chickens are coming back to the nest for shelter as the owners of S. Africa fight against the new arrivals!
Hahaha!
Xenocide will not improve the lives of the perpetrators any bit. A lazy person will always blame those around him for his suffering. Yet given an opportunity, no improvement will be made.
If you want to succeed in life, learn from the succesful people and be motivated by their achievements. Hating them will only add to your sorrows.
After chasing away foreigners, these lazy people will find someone else to blame for their poverty.
while we blub about xenophobia in SA, lets keep in mind that the same seeds are actually buried in this country and will soon begin to germinate. the people of northwestern province are already warning against “foreigners” going to work in that part of the province since there is newly found wealth.
can we use our seemingly intelligency to sort out issues in our country. heed my words there will come a time when we will be tired of chinese, indians and lebanese etc. we have these xeno feelings in us waiting to be acted on.
i celebrate and honour difference coz there is power in it. BUT there should be no difference in benefits,otherwise xenophobia will germinate
Bloggers, bloggers…..
Countrymen, pliz check out other blogs in the international media and see how others discuss issues, coherently and sensibly. The nonsense i have to read on this blog is pathetic and worrying if this is a measure of the zambian intellect. People like the ‘Pragmatist’ should be barred by the editor as time-wasters, his contributions are that of someone writing from the confines of a Chainama Hospital ‘Cell’. And it is very suprising that there seems to be no blog editor, hence the huge amount of insults coming through. Wake-up Zambians!!!
Plagiarism comments too long and too boring.
I agree with #66,67
Ba prag you will only make your contributions interesting to read by being brief and to the point. Otherwise your points will not be
picked by your fellow bloggers in these essays of yours.
Another thing is that you don’t show how learned you are by using big words.
BA PRAG CHANGE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!
Ba Pragmatist is he a normal guy.I think he needs to see a psychiatrist before its too late.The guy seems to be out of touch.Been following his arguments.he seems to be an imbecile.Pse dont try to confuse us on the blog.We are here for serious contributions.Dont try to bring up dictionary words like ur still in G12 idi.ot.
Pragma pragma your contributions are not making sense at all. Why study a dictionary? Where were you when your friends where studying in diferent fields? Common man kip it simple and real. do not contaminate the site. Ba site editor wake up and edit some crap. Pragma reminds of those school days when we use to have debates we would use bombastic words which are not even in the dictionary if there then not close to what you meant….ha ha ha Plague
I would like to thank all repsonsible bloggers who shut up this so called pragmatist. For me, I would call him a “Dictionary Kaponya” These are word prostitutes of society who mislead people with words and do nothing for the Nation. I guess he is not Zambian!! Because Zambians are well educated, serous and want development.
Mwaekwa (59),
Face realities and argue without basis. Read my statement again ““Japan or any other successful nation did not start with protectionism following their defeat and take over by the Macarthur administration.” Challenge me that after the Japanese Triumvirate was defeated in 1945, under General MaCarthur administration, their Nation-State building did not pursue protectionist policies immediately. I know the political economy of East Asia very well from the Dynasty periods to their current fractious politics.I have the time today to take you on such.
#72 Pragmatist you make me annoyed.Stupid makaka shu-up if u dont have any meaningful conribution.U deserve to be in Chainama.You sound to be suffering from poverty of ideas.your contributions are pathetic to say the least.
# 62-71,
Be advised that leadership calls us to stay magnanimously accommodating even for your types of disillusioned. Leadership is for both the hopeless and the engaged in modernizing our country evidently moving to its Greatness under the reformers in full control .Audit your life and ask yourself if your perennial insults have had any relevancy to our national calculus here to reign beyond 2015.If i sink lower to your level of envy, insults and deviance, i would be failing the people of Zambia.
And …indeed you are!!
The days when leaders like those in MMD used globalization to run away from their responsibilities – shipping sick leaders to foreign hospitals, closing local companies so that foreign ones can come and take over, selling national treasure to foreigners for peanuts (because the leaders are monkeys who love peanuts), firing citizens without any care since they can go anywhere to launch their struggles to end destitution – all now coming to an end with the xenophobic attacks in S. Africa. Suddenly the governments are now faced by real decisions of ensuring that their citizens must be taken care of right here at home otherwise they will start killing foreigners, or if they go elsewhere, they ..
We know that insults against reformers too the toll during the era of the Sata politics.But believe it,a new dawn is here to stay.Zambia has made a corner. We have systematically managed to kill that era and your likes have the option to either reform or remain irrelevant for life. The MMD and her progressive politics you detaste with incorrigible hatred are here to serve beyond 2015.In the name Zambia and the constitution to which i make oath to uphold wherever,i will not take your hopeless direction. Your behavior is for the disillusioned lot who hopes and place in this dispensation are in futility.I wish i had the so called dictionary in my house you keep insulting me for.
~74 I.diot Pragmatist you havent sank so low coz thats how you are.U are an imbecile,suffering from Psychophrenia.Infact ur just pulluting this blog pse stop contaminating other bloggers.
Pragmatist ur a nobody who wants to show off as if u know the grammar.Good communication demands simple and easy to flow sentences and pse stick to the topic under discussion.
..risk getting killed there by the displaced owners of the foreign land where they have gone.
The saga of giving away ZCBC to SHoprite, ZCCM, Nakambala Sugar, CHilanga Cement, etc are all examples of critical mistakes made by the government. Zambians cannot go to countries where these firms are headquartered and seek jobs as they risk all type of mistreatment. The era of free movement of people is fast coming to a close. Now we need real leaderhip in our country to establish a real working country that places the needs of our vast majority first over the foreigners.
# 62-71 & 73,
We know that that you are itching with insults against determined reformers in view of the fact that you are from a tradition and era of the then Sata politics discarded for life.
Good luck in your unabated tirades. Kindly audit your life and see along the way how much damage you have created to your own future and not this Pragmatist or progressive MMD leaders. Review what you will have achieved five years along that way.
Tombolilo
Youngman i regret that you burning yourself out against a seasoned and sober patriot.Insults don’t move me off issues of national significance. I’m practically tested in real life frontiers such that i find your Pull Him Down -PHD insults as lifeless convulsions of a hopeless & disillusioned bitter soul.I’m no appease of such people.What i have is exactly what you and your & parents carry for heavens sake. raising any Insults on me is nothing but insulting your own parents.Such don’t bother me.
We have the privilege to expose you with empirical evident at your own risk that you are the same old disillusioned and bitter kid in mutations. For the good of free speech and confidence in the blog privacy, we will let you burn yourself out.
I have time to contribute policy, economic, political and leadership matters than appeasing junks and the envious that you. are.
Pragmatist, I realize that you have benefitted from the privatizing saga and have benefitted immensely from the acts of transferring ownership from the vast majority to a few greedy mouths like yours. You belong to the group of exploiters now seen as being responsible for the speculative nature of all global prices of everything. The current scene where the vast majority are in poverty while the common national resources are being siphoned off to enrich you and your kind is not sustainable. You have denied your fellow citizens a basic right to information, education, health care, and I must hasten to add water. All these are critical for any nation that wants to develop a decent population.
Remember the 144,000 chosen ones!! these are the ones to Redeem Zambia. Brothers and sisters come back. We need your brains.
Development cannot take place where a leadership has invested its time and effort embedded with exploitive, capitalist principles. THe MMD are in office because of the role played by the OP and its collaborators like Rupiah Banda. I must include the western nations have been fast to grant LPM the recognition he desired, irrespective of his kleptomania with Chiluba in stealing votes from Mazoka in 2001 and in 2006 from Sata.
The long term life for privateers is not guaranteed because cheating and rigging of election results is not sustainable. I see that soon some smart Zambian will stand up to put a stop to this rot and rename Mukobeko Prison, MMD Rehab camp.
Xenophobia may be the response that privateers may have to digest as being their number one obstacle. What do you do with unemployed multitudes of your own citizens once you have given away all productive resources? If we are wise, we have to learn from the vast majority of rioters in S. Africa who have taught us many lessons. A Leadership MUST TAKE CARE OF ITS PEOPLE FIRST or risk untold damage to everything that the nation values. Pamberi!
# 85 correct…..am rotting in jail coz of LPM and Mulongoti. Give me your cell #. I will visit you and furnish u with all the information. I need to expose the two. I am using my phone to write to this blog.