President Robert Mugabe on Friday said Britain will never colonise Zimbabwe again as the country is ready to take up arms and defend its independence.
Addressing the National Youth Convention, President Mugabe said Zimbabwe is a sovereign state and would never betray its foreign heroes who lost their lives during the liberation struggle.
” This is our Zimbabwe,” President Mugabe said, ” We cannot allow the British to once again dominate us through their puppets.”
He said no white man would ever be boss over Zimbabweans as Zimbabwe is a liberated country.
The President urged Zimbabweans to be wary of the opposition MDC as it was working with Western countries to force regime change in Zimbabwe.
” Voting for the MDC in the June 27 second presidential election is voting for the British to once again have power over Zimbabwe,” he said.
He said Zimbabweans were aware that white former farmers came back to Zimbabwe after MDC claimed to have won the March harmonised elections.
The independence of Zimbabwe was now being put under test by its detractors and therefore people should unite and defend their sovereignty, he said.
President Mugabe said Britain and her allies were envious of Zimbabwe’s independence and natural resources.
” Britain does not want Zimbabwe to enjoy total independence, it only wants to have total control of our wealth,” he said.
Students from all the country’s tertiary institutions and universities and senior Zanu PF officials attended the convention.
Meanwhile, the Zimbabwe government said on Friday the order suspending all field operations of Private Voluntary Organisations (PVOs) and Non-Governmental Organisations (NGOs) related to movement of their personnel into communities and not operations at offices.
In a circular to all PVOs and NGOs to clarify the issue, Public Service Labour and Social Welfare acting permanent secretary Sydney Mhishi said the suspension did not imply banning or deregistration.
” The government has received information that some PVOs and NGOS involved in humanitarian operations were breaching terms and conditions of their registration as embraced in the PVO Act by engaging in political activities,” said Mhishi.
” In order to allow for fair and transparent investigations, field operations of all PVOs/NGOs had to be suspended,” he said, adding the government was desirous to complete the investigations to allow the organisations to resume normal operations.
Mhishi said in terms of the suspension letter, field operations implied movement by NGOs/PVOs personnel into communities to mobilise, organise or bring together large numbers of people.
He said the suspension did not prohibit those on Anti-retroviral therapy and those benefiting from Home Based Care programmes to continue accessing drugs and therapeutic feeding from clinics and hospitals.
Supplementary feeding programmes for children were also not covered by the suspension since these were community based and did not entail community mobilisation.
Churches were also not covered by the suspension since the Zimbabwe Constitution guaranteed freedom of worship and they were not registered in terms of the PVO Act.
The Office of the Co-ordination of Humanitarian Affairs organised a meeting of United Nations agencies and NGOs/PVOs on Thursday to seek clarification from the government on the suspension of field operations of all civic organisations.
Meanwhile, the National Association of Non-Governmental Organisations has welcomed the clarification, saying it assisted in clearing the air over the issue.
In an interview, the organisation’s advocacy and communications manager Fambai Ngirande said the association was however urging the government to expeditiously conduct the investigations to pave way for the organisations to resume operations.
The umbrella body, which initially refused to respect the order arguing that it was not covered by the PVO Act, has since filed an application in the High Court contesting its legality.
The organisation is arguing that the instruction is not legal as the PVO Act provided for cancellation of registration and not suspension of operations.
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And he is right. The neoliberal agenda of the MDC is nothing but a selloff of the Zimbabwean state’s assets to western corporations, the same as it was in their big example, Zambia. The MDC are mercenaries, who are fully intent on selling out Zimbabwe just to get to power. Don’t be fooled by any of the ‘insults’ of Zambia by ‘Zimbabweans’. They are most likely part of the ‘regime change’ operations going on against Zimbabwe.
Keep your regime until you go with it to the grave soon.
MrK you are right and some other spectators are really disgusting.
Zimbabweans must continue treasuring their country with unblinking vigilance. Even in the search for one of them to eventually take over from President Mugabe, they must never subscribe to the conspiracy of giving up their country to Tsvingirai imperial pone of plunder & sabotage. Evidently he has long mortgaged Zimbabwe to Britain out of his unbridled ignorance and intellectual deficiency that has made him easily susceptible to manipulation.Tsvingirai is belongs to the “fifth Column” right on the Zimbabwe soil.in Zambia we were economically raped to extinction under the Chiluba conspiracies & Zimbabwe guard their national interest.
Tsvingirai belongs to the “fifth Column” right on the Zimbabwe soil.
In Zambia we were economically raped to extinction under the Chiluba conspiracies & Zimbabweans must guard their country in best national interest.
What unbelievable nonsense . You think all those people fleeing Zimbabwe are running away from the weather ! Mugabe is a cheap, power hungry, spent politician. The UK or the US have no interest in Zimbabwe. They are running their countries and feeding their people. It is this silly and naive kind of reasoning that makes Africans look stupid. I now think wah Levy is actually great compared to the average Zambian who writes on these pages. He understands the world. Talk about colonialism 50 years after ! Asia was colonised too and by the same powers too and see where they are. Africans are still living stone age kind of life. Where in the world but in Africa are people still using a hoe!
Sounds like what George Bush & the republicans used against the democrat in 2004 US elections. Basically painted the democrats as cowards, ant-war, gays & Lesbians who were about to take over the country and Americans bought into that propaganda..Looks like Mugabe wants to use the same here ..
They want Platinum, Gold, Copper beef which Zimbabwe has abundance for years they unfairly exploited as their major source.Tsvingirai has long signed up to surrender them all and reverse the gains of citizens.Africa has Omah Bongo 43 years in office, Col. Gaddaffi 40 years in office, Dos antos in Angola 33 years in office, Egypt’s erring 80 years old Muhammad Hosni Mubarak now in his 27th year to mention but a few.To these economic hitmen, Mugabe is a demon for stand his people’s interest. The listed tyrannies are heroes & are warmly recipients of foreign applause for rendering their people life time destitutes.
With the growing South-to-South bilateral ties, Britain is in a panic mode seeing her economic grip running out for ever. No country has seen logic in sustaining the Land Rover market exploitatively when Japan sales a Toyota land cruiser almost 40% what Britain is offer it for. The South-to-South ties are bring Roads, Hospitals,stadiums,rail networks and many more strategic infrastructures.Just last year following the discovery of heavy oil wells, Ghana was told never to put up their own oil Refineries but ship all the crude to UK them import finished oils only. Zambia was denied TAZARA,Mwembeshi Earth station, underground Kafue Gorge. Thanx China,then Yugoslavia and Japan.
Japan sales a Toyota land cruiser almost 40% less what Britain is offer it for.
“The UK or the US have no interest in Zimbabwe” end Quote.
Cheese # 6
Either you are blogging from your “under five Diapers” or have no background to deduce from.
N°. 6 you are right in some of your points. But you have left out the major point. The masters colonised Africa and Asia using different weapons.
N°. 6 you are right in some of your points. But you have left out the major point. The masters colonised Africa and Asia using different weapons.(I mean education).
Mugabe thinks he is a small God.Soon the ***** will kick the bucket.
You know nothing about what is happening here in Zimbabwe. So, stop making noise. People are being killed and beaten because of the old man. We need someone to kill him if he wins the elections.
I am convinced beyond any reasonable doubt that Bob has gone mad!! Lets be honest. Britain has been quite because they are not interested in Zimbabwe. Like other citizens of the world they are just concerned at how people are being mistreated in that country.
I feel that our Zimbabwean brothers and sisters are not doing enough. They are too quite and all they do is complain at how the outside countries are not helping them. Let all Zimbabweans rise to the streets like Zambians did between 1988 and 1991.
Bob will never see sense unless all Zimbabweans move into a revolution and stop blaming neighbors for not helping
i’m with #15 people…innocent people are dying now they cant get food aid so they are going to die still 80% of the people are unemployed…and MDC is the only party which has a chance to oust mugabe.People want to keep their country but at the cost of how many lives… by the time this old man gets out it will be another idi amin story…amin was also a ‘for the people’ kind of guy just lyk this i’m sure that we’ll read of hundreds who have been killed when all this stuff settles down.
15 & 16,
As perfectly nailed by some # 1,3 & 11 you are indeed a kid without any background other than senseless blogging. Never deployed and engaged in any national interest battle. You talk of killing when you have never walked over dead bodies or tested your inner resolve to charge against foes.You don’t even understand the vulnerability of your own country, economy, self or your family in your dreams.
Look people if Britain and US had interest in Zim they would have gone in like they did with Iraq. It’s the plight of the poor that they are more concerned about. The west face no threat from Zim in any way what so ever. Yes, Chiluba took advantage of us but we have woken up and zed is a better place than it were 10 years ago. As far as it stands people are being killed in Zim, what right has Robert to take innocent lives! Zimbabwe does not belong to him. If the majority vote MDC so be it. Zim has gone back to the colonial days, were is the freedom, for the future generation. Some of you bloggers need to wake up.
affrocentric # 18,
Call yourself anything you want,But as perfectly nailed by # 1,3 & 11, you are adding nothing to the thread but exposing yourself how a distant kid without background you are. I have no doubt that instead, you will receives what you are asking for because in life we only receive what we ask or wish others. Good luck in what you are evoking.
Developer of the world # 20,
But as perfectly nailed by # 1,3 & 11, you are adding nothing to the thread but exposing yourself how a distant kid without background you are.
“Chiluba took advantage of us but we have woken up and zed is a better place than it were 10 years ago”.Excerpt
Developer of the world # 20,
You are not only a clueless kid but a stunning flip flopper.Isn’t it the same MMD you have been insulting here that they are clueless condom you are attributing the better Zambia has become? Whatever to your passion for condoms potentially inseminated and bread from it, you are a stunning flip flopper without a background or value system.
Interesting developments.If Mugabe is the hero he claims to be why are his people reduced to destitutes and gypsies in Africa and beyond?running around and generally causing apprehension where they gO?let us not be cheated by cheap and tired slogans..THE TIME FOR ZIMBABWEANS TO RISE AND REVAMP THEIR ECONOMY AND DIGNITY IS NOW.NO ONE WILL REMOVE THE TIRED SEKURU BOB FROM OFFICE,THEY HAVE TO DO IT BEGA, OTHERWISE THEY WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER SHAME AND XENOPHOBIA WHEREVER THEY LAND.
Pragmatist is a UPND member, has alot of facts but pragmatising for nothing, ending up frustrating youths.
Mugabe is right, Zimbabwe can not be run by a team of thugs of Zvangirai, unless backed by by foreign forces. However, Zimbabwe is in this economic disaster, Mugabe should handover power to one of his old-madalas. Age doesn’t really matter, what matters now is change. But again not careless change the MDC and its pragmatists.
Mugabe has lost his mind. He is so paranoid that he is ordering his people to remove satlite dishes from their roofs. He believes everybody is working with US and/or UK. Poor people are now dying of hunger coz he’s stopped NGOs from working in Zim. He is killing and maiming people. Zimbabwe is turning into a lawless country.
mugabe is a senile despot rambling about what he doesn’t know neither believe in. there is no african country without foreigners let alone white influence. I have followed this fiasco for a while to ad nauseum and all i can say is that zimbabweans are either dumb or they are happy with the way things are, and as such they should stop fleeing their country because if they want change they must show it e.g strikes like zed in 1990
It seems like We still have revolutions to fight in Africa. Shame. Typical African mentality, divert attention from dire mismanegment of a country by claiming to fight for independence after almost 2 decades of self rule. You guys bringing up revolutionary crap should be ashamed of your selves.
Why would the UK that employs 10s of thousands of Zimbabweans to clean their older pipos back sides be intreasted in re-colonising their country ?. Grow up and stop the blame game accept failure.
this place stinks like the ‘boggs’ in the Zimbabwe with no water. The problem with Africas is that they are blinded by charade of anti-colonial retoric. africans can not feed its people never mind govern them. you talk of africa and asia being part of the colonial cycle. the asians are clever people…. they clearnt from the white men how to palnt seeds while they were in their country. today you’ll be pushed hard find any white commercial farmer in India, pakistan, or any other asian country…… for that they never needed them. they eat from these farmers when they were in controll of their land…. but they never became too dependent on it like in Africa.
cont… Today as was the case during the colonial rule…africans are as backwards as they were then. they still use the hoe and the cattle. cattle that is half dead….. and the hoe with out the stick. then Africans went to compliane about the white men. one can only rule someone because of that persons weakness. AFRICA NEEDS TO WAKE UP…..otherwise the CHIMPS WIILL TAKE OVER AFRICA AND ITS PEOPLE
No.6 you are right my brother,Mugabe and his clonies are *****’s who desrves to die or be punished severely. Even though the oppsition leader is not the best bet to take over Zim but for change’s sake it’s OK.This bustard has destabilised the all southern region.Some leaders are too frightend to speek out becuse of the ignorance of what may come out of his dirty mouth(Mugabe), only for Zambians to bare the burden of this evil regime.if honestly 3 million people can flee there native land, surely he should know there is catastrophie in Zim.
were on earth do you find people living in MUD HOUSES as extensive as it is in Africa??? ….. the Africans cant even put up a brick without having a ‘dig’ at the fomer rulers. rulers who are ready to build houses on the MOON,MARS and VENUS. they do not care about you- the Zimbabweans…..what you got to offer apart from ‘rats’ in the forgotten farms. who do you think fed Zimbos until 2001…….. people forget…. and who keeps feeding even now….. alot of these NGO’s are infact from the WEST!!!
Pipo I beg. What Mugabe is doing to his people is abomination! A change of government will not sell the country but change stone age policies and which will cater for the well being of the people.
Whats there to brag about having independence when your people are suffering. Inflation is a joke !!
O POWERMAN USE ANOTHER PHRASE MAN! anyone who doesnt agree is a kid.. awe wake up mune, the hard fact is that pipo r dying and as it had been in uganda, or other countries the astonishing numbers only come out after a few years and people start to make documentaries, fact, pipo can not get food aid but mugabe is eating his three or more meals a day.even as KK said he thinks mugabe has a good motive but the execution may not neccessarily be the best thats the fact!!!!! whats the use of a good plan if you can’t execute it well?USELESS!i think you are the kid friend. DROP THE IDEALISM and look at the facts!If MDC wins its his fault because he is literally pushing the people into a corner..and
cont.. and killing his own people is freedom fighting? c’mon people faught against the colonial masters,but innocent civillians are being killed just for supporting opposition…quite obviously you have not met zimbabweans recently and not those rich ones or government oriented kill your own people for what? This is exactly i repeat exactly like idi amin chase the indians and take over shops…to people with no business knowledge.. bob: take the white farmers land and give to people with no resource or skill to manage large scale farming.. kill anyone who opposes you… too many parallels and like usual the world only comes in when soo many innocent have paid with their lives
Pragmatist, why do you call people who disagree with you ‘kid’ or ‘naive’? You say sensible things but punctuate them with such cheap shots. Dignity marks wisdom from folliness. Even the bible says so.
Ntambalukuta # 24,
Thanks for associating me with UPND for whatever reason you have.However I’m no closer to that party. If anything, UPND falls far short of my pragmatic approach to issues.
pankoloko # 26,
Mugabe and Zimbabweans are no anti whites but for realistic equity distribution of the national cake. Had they been anti whites, murderous Ian Daglous Smith and his legions wouldn’t have calling Zimbabwe their home 27 years after a painful Guerrilla warfare (Chinamunengas) that costed thousands of Veterans. Have you forgotten about the Lusaka East, Kafue and Feira bombardments,our Alick Nkhata extermination and the black Sunday Ngwerere Commando crush? Mugabe is an accommodationist.
The same people who wanted Zimbabwe’s resources, including it’s land, now want to return. This time, it is called ‘neoliberal economics’, and will see all of Zimbabwe’s state companies given away to western corporations. The way the mines were given away under Chiluba. The ‘MDC’ has made no secret of it’s neoliberal agenda. And if they try and reverse land reform and evict hundreds of thousands of Zimbabweans from their land, they will have a civil war on their hands.
MrK, Prag and all your clonies are out of touch with reality. Your thinking or graps of the Zimbo issue is shallow to be fair guys. You are out of touch with reality. You have no idea what Bob has done to the Zim he is pretending to defend. Zim must defend itself from this self-righteous mad-man. You have no idea of the extent of the sufferings of the Zimbos at the hands of this man. I think you huys are *****s, not as an insult but faculty wise.
Mugabe is heading down the Kamuzu Banda road. As stubborn as they are, they gained freedom for their people and then kicked the bucket to give up power.
They think they own the countries , at least super ken was 27 yrs they make him look so good now!
#37 pragmatist,
u also sound like the senile mugabe, u are just typing historical events here and have made nonsense of them, can u clarify what u are bringing to this forum, and that english of yours doesn’t fool anyone there is no such word as ‘ACCOMODATIONIST’.
/cont.. actually my bad its their i checked it up but even though ur whole understanding of this fiasco leaves much to be desired by its strict definition there is no way mugabe can be regarded as an accommodationist
Long Live Comrade Mugabe. Zimbabwe must not become a slave of the West the way Zambia has become. The vast majority of our people are now disguised slaves with Donors frequently donating money, food, and the like via their client regime under LPM. LPM’s regime infact calls Donors – Partners in Development when in real sense they are miles apart – one is a slave owner, and the other, a Slave Driver with LPM at the top.
Mugabe is a murderer, it was at his behest that Herbert Chitepo, that galant freedom fighter was murdered in Zambia in 1975:
“Top Zanu commanders from the Dare Rechimurenga and the Zanla High Command killed former Zanu chairman, Herbert Chitepo, in Zambia in 1975, a special report by a Zambian commission into the late leader’s mysterious death reveals”.
Mugabe is a risk and threat to southern Africa peace. his is responsible for xphobia in rsa, increased crime and prostitution in neba countries. So what do we have to do.It is foolish for a ’90’ year old man holding on to a floater just to sink with it.
There is no way out for Zimbis.. Chuck Mugabe out or drown with him…Otherwise to put pressure on Zimbis..let us Lock those boarders and let Mobs keep beating Zimbos in rsa so that they can go and vote out Bob and reclaim their heritage..
Said Kaunda on Zambian national radio on 31 March 1975: “We are shocked. We are still grieved and angered. We remain bitter against the murderous act, bitter against the murderers – the enemies of Zambia and Africa. Many Zambians are, to say the least, very dismayed and justifiably irritated by statements made by some Zimbabwe nationals, some, even nationalist leaders, have shown no concern whatsoever for the assassination of Mr Chitepo.
To them, Mr Chitepo has been assassinated and that must be the end. Instead of calling upon the party and government to track down the killers of this gallant fighter, they are either completely silent, while others virtually demand that we stop the investigation altogether and thereby shelter the assassins.”
Twenty-fours years later, Kaunda was still bitter as he told The Standard in 1999 when he came to visit the grave of the late vice president, Joshua Nkomo:
“Chitepo was a committed leader. And some day we will talk about how he died. It is one blot in the history, a sad reflection of the whole liberation of this region. Some of the Zanla leadership left Zambia soon after the burial. I didn’t expect them to leave immediately…this was their death. It was our death too, and it required all of us to work together on it,” said Kaunda.
Mugabe is a weak and frail old man. The country is now being run by a military Junta. Mugabe is just their puppet. The hands that move the puppet are the army chief and the police chief. As I see it, the only solution to a miltary government is a military one. Either the lower ranks must revolt or there must be a force from outside.
The Burmese Generals have shown that you can shove two fingers up to any political interference.
#43 I agree with you, Zambia has been turned a slave labour producing country. Our people are paid almost nothing for their hard work and as a country we are just getting rich on paper but not in real terms of reducing poverty, unmployment and exploitation. LPM’s admininstration is the worst government Zambia has ever had to date. When Chiluba sold most of the Zambian assets (companies) etc, our economy was down, there was no demand for copper or any natural resources coming from Zambia, so in my own opinion, the privatisation seemed justified but for LPM he has a chance to change Zambia and yet he has sold even more than chiluba did. LPM is a super puppet of the west right now!!
Actually, Mugabe died some years ago. The military had him stuffed so that they could use him as a mouthpiece while they continue to rape the country
#50 your assertions are ludicrous and not thoroughly thought through, maybe this is why u remain anonymous, yes poverty is a mountain we ought to surmount but im accustomed to believe that every country has problems reducing poverty and infact ur arguments are inconclusive because what variables are u using to measure poverty as far as im concerned poverty in zambia is measured based on how many meals one receives in a day in the west its based on income
/cont… how can u suggest levy’s regime is the worst when u know that he is the 1st president to have established bank reserves (900bn+)since independence unemployment levels are lower than chilubas administration our Gross National Product is higher than any of the previous administrations, there is even more information about our economy, governance and the legislature than ever before, so tell me how is zambia worse off today than in previous govts? is it the chembe bridge?
#50
LPM has changed all thuggery your brother FTJ left. FTJ 10 year rule was time wasted. 10 wasted years. He auctioned everything.
First the Brits, then the Asians. China had better beware, says hugh russell
When President Hu Jintao flew out of Zambia after Friday’s protest by local copper miners, he must have been asking himself how a dirt-poor people like the Zambians can say ‘boo’ to a Chinese goose that lays such golden eggs. He should have asked Michael Sata.
Sata (right) is a maverick. He’s leader of Zambia’s opposition party, the Patriotic Front. But to a greater extent he’s a law unto himself, ever ready to pick up a populist flag and run with it. ” That’s how British newspapers describe us Zambians- DIRT-POOR PEOPLE!
LPM has done more for the whole country and its people and its image than the ‘thick’ old man KK and then the thief of all time FTJ. Guys, plz give credit where its due.
number 55, atleast zambia even makes news in the british papers these days….. atleast the people in england can see a place called Zambia on this planet. under Chiluba days zambia was not even on the map. under Kaunda days……. wel u kw…. no one dared enter zambia to report on its plight. RESPECT LMP> this guy means good for Zambian
MUGABE IS A REJECT , HE WILL NEVER WIN A VOTE FAIRLY THATS WHY HE IS KILLING ,RAPING IN ORDER TO RETAIN POWER.THE BIGEST PROBLEM WITH UNCLE BOB IS THAT ANYTHING WHICH IS AGAINST HIS VIEWS IS OF THE WEST OR BRITISH.
LPM has not done much for Zambia. With the opportunities that he has to change the country, personally I think he is a bad leader. Chiluba managed to get us all through the 90s when things were hard in Zambia with very little forex coming into the country. KK did the samething except he just stayed on a bit too much. However for LPM, he has all the resouces (natural and financial) to change the country and yet he has sold almost everything that Chiluba didn’t sell. That is bad leadership my friend. I won’t give credit were it is not due. If levy changes his ways then he could get my support. Right now however, I think he is the worst among the three presidents we have had so far.
#59 i still cant comprehend ur logic and as such maybe if u changed ur ways instead, u would acknowledge that levy is not misusing resources because at a time when copper prices are high he is spending money on building the country’s infrastructure and building up our reserves the criminal u are defending so much was just stealing everything, KK was consolidating national assetts in the MCC, levy’s approach is more laissez faire, which is modern, our currency has improved under H.E. and so has our balance of payments. Already zambia doesn’t know who should take over from levy…
/cont… why? because he has left high standards, now, dont give credit where its due but in 5 to 10 years u will see the difference rome was not built overnight.
The peace we have been enjoying in the region can easily be a thing of the past if the situation is not checked. Remember the Inn Smith days. It is time to speed up the construction of the bridge across the Zambezi at Kazungula for the continued flow of economic traffic to and from the south.
What do doctors call the condition where ones mind is stuck on one thing and can not think of or see other view points
Mugabe like Kaunda, have driven their countries to desperation and now people just want change, even if he was competing against a monkey I can assure you people would have voted. Yes MDC might be propagating neo-liberal policies, but you think the man in the rural area who needs food cares where the food is going to come from. African leaders have this bad management style which does not groom successors thereby leaving their populations desperate.So much as Mugabe might be right about MDC, what Mugabe should have done, was to train a successor if he want ZANU PF policies to continue he should have trained a person who he should have trained and indoctrinated with his policies…
… instead of holding to power indefintely. Trade unions world over have not made good presidents to the exclusion of Lula Da Silva of Brazil, Lech Walesa was a mess in Poland, Chiluba was a mess in Zambia, we are waiting for Zuma in 2009 and then Morgan if he makes it what he is going to do differetly. So the problem is not with western Governments RGB should have retired by now.
“Chiluba managed to get us all through the 90s when things were hard in Zambia with very little forex coming into the country. KK did the samething except he just stayed on a bit too much”Excerpt from Anonymous # 59
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No wonder you are Anonymous because of such stunning ignorance. You are distantly clueless to be helped in factual debates unfortunately. I don’t think a well vested and insightful person would have the conscious to shuffle that stunning line of lies in a public domain.FTJ received had a Gold bowel in external funds.
FTJ had a bowel full of external funds to change the country within the ten years.Instead, he was busy plundering Zambia and locking Zambians to life time deprivation.
#59 I have a report of ODA (Official Development Assistance) to Zambia in the first 3 years of Chiluba, if we are to calculate it prorata, I can guarantee you, this guy received more money than any other regime in the history of Zambia, other than mismanaging the resource, this guy also destroyed the trust and integrity of all zambians because now we are given all sorts of conditions around aid because our cooperating partners think that we are going to spend it in Harrods! So check your facts before you say something and please do not assume idiocy on the other bloggers because we really do not know the professional background for each one of us
# 59. Anonymous
You must have been a recipient of plunderd funds.
Zambians were dying in their thousands becuase of no medicine, there was no money in the streets, all of it was going in his pocket. He shamlessley prisided over endemic corruption. Zambia was a dark, blick place during FJT’s time. Let his persecution be an example to all who hold aspirations for plot # 1. And may all those who died and those whos lives were ruinend by his goverment take heart that it will never happen again, we will nver be ruled by a common thief, never. PLM has indeed set the standards.
#68 this is when I become scared that, there are actually people out there who think Chiluba did something for this country.
Pankoloko # 41,
I have some time to respond to pending posts. Here we go: What do you mean when you say there is no word as “accommodationist”? Do you think I’m just cooking up? Read extensively Dispute Resolutions and international systems material. Throughout history mostly post colonial period, National-State building has been on “accommodationist” politics I call ideal and polite for nations in their state of conflagration.
“Accommodationist” wow I have learnt something new today.
Prag,
Accomodationist is a noun predominantly applied in international politics arguments. I’m increasingly deducing you have some strong international politics background. Any feedback for a pick!
Accomodationist
-One that compromises with or adapts to the viewpoint of the opposition: a factional split between the hard-liners and the accomodationists.
-someone who tries to compromise with an opposition or accommodates his own stance to fit another’s
#70 pragmatist don’t be petulant, after i posted that comment i realised i was wrong because i jumped the gun instead of reading extensively on the word ‘ACCOMODATIONIST’, and i subsequently apologised in the foregoing comment at #42, u have also made the same mistake of ukubilima by abruptly responding without reading the continued comment, it happens when u are educated so please don’t demonise me.
Imwe naimwe ba #72 bola panshi ur input is constructive but don’t turn this into a lecture.
You all talk the talk, but can you walk the walk? How can you fight a system when you can’t even agree among yourselves. Forget, US, UK, etc… Zimbabwe is being killed by its own people. You can talk all you want but as long as able people continue to run away from Zimbabwe instead of facing their oppressors, Zimbabwe will continue to sink. “Yielding passively to the oppressor makes the oppressed twice as evil” – Malcolm X (Not that I endorse his methods). Zimbabweans have chosen to be economic migrants instead of facing their problems. Those People with the means have left the country or are benefiting so much from the plunder that they have decided to keep their mouths shut and do nothing
pankoloko,
No big deal or offense for me. Your apology mutually taken its part of the intellectual battle that reigns deep in the New Democratic order where its not a norm to inhibit free speech. Doing so, is inhibiting logic which i will never take pleasure to inhibit. Even the likes of hysterical ever inappropriate thinking Muntuza # 39 have a place in this dispensation of free speech where the internal fabric is self exemplified.I don’t to amplify his self preferred “*****) word.Instead, I’m stronger and content by every passing day.
Peace
Pragmatist, I need to try the cigarette you smoke.
Well one thing is for sure, Zimbabwe hasn’t got “OIL” (if you know what I mean) and secondly Bob has got a CRIMINAL record on his ass. Lets use common sense people this old man is not going anywhere simply because he is protecting his old criminal ass and this thing of “selling out Zimbabwe” is nonsense besides Zimbabwe was was it was some time back (bread basket) because of the white people and every African nation most of all Zambia was admiring it. Lets stop denying the truth and start facing our own reality….where to from here?
Well said #77 this re-colonisation rhetoric is so cheap that it cannot sell anymore.What pride is there left? Leaders are preaching Zim pride for their own good to hold on to power , otherwise, they will face the wrath of the International courts of justice in Hague.I can only imagine, bob introducing himself to Charles Taylor, “Hi .. Its Bob” Bob who? “Robert Mugabe” I’m your neighbor now.
As Africans lets refuse to be pawns of former-colonisers and our own leaders who want to stay in power.I hope this zim issue goes away after elections, its starting to bore me to death.What really can be done?
I am tired of this thing called ‘zimbabwe’. Dont we have better issues to solve? I wish to invest my time on other issues like my family or Godly stuff!
Let the ZIM people decide! any problem creates another problem when being solved or introduces soft consequences! We just have to learn to grab benefits and forget about the sweat!!!
All points here are somehow ‘academic’. The only way forward is transparency and good governance. It does not matter as to who shall abide by such. Anyone in power in Zim should just recognize what the people need and work with people to achieve!!
I guess its nice to debate… i will not stop…
Miyoba # 78,
You are another miserable dummy dumper sycophant. What sense has # 77 said worth concurring with? ICJ, ICJ’ICJ what a slave in your head and an inferior complexed poor soul that you are.It it a crime to push for equality of your people over their Gold, Platinum, Copper, water and fertile land? How much blood and human souls after Hitler has Blair and Bush got not forgetting Egypty’s Hossani Mubarrak on his Muslim brotherhoods,and Ommah Bongo’s 40 years iron first surrender of the oil resources to the West? All how much blood they got on their hands?
IS it a crime to push for equity of natural wealth among the people? The nation has had 200 years of exploitative misrule over the Gold, Platinum, Copper, water and fertile land only building castles and Gold towers in landlocked UK and Belgium leaving natives stinking in a life time denial?
It is your third Grade treacherous non reasoning that has always made you susceptible to the endless manipulations. No wonder you are life time slaves ending it all in blogs rhetoric only when oligarch are consolidating right in your faces generation after generation surrendering all to the outside world.
Iwe Patriot #80 tawu lebonfya common sense here. You are the same people who talk about POVERTY in Africa in the name of Economy but at the same time creating it in the name of freedom. How stupid can that be!!!….to be honest you are no different from Changurai…very unDEPLOMATICAL and definitely short sited
I don’t like nor support Mugabe, but Changurai is not a leader by far!!!!
In the homeland, had UNIP and the unwavering patriots in the struggle not systematically taken care instantly of moles every time your type of traitors and vultures were spotted as susceptible and easy for manipulation to the coordinated propaganda,we couldn’t have achieved much what we did.We had the resolve and tenacity resisting all the same old demonization schemes.Today,what do you have left to your citizenry name other than the Twalya again Chipoto in election seasons? After that its stinking poor while oligarchies are getting stronger and stronger. What remains for you is blogging insults day in and out.After 20-30 years in sequence, its another generation from same oligarchies in.
Yes UNIP, FRELIMO, SWAPO, MPLA,BDP,ANC,Zanu-PF & Chama Cha Mapinduzi’s unwavering patriots in the struggle did the most honorable.Systematically & instantaneously like the USA on did it on the “Fifth Column” citizens, they took off all moles every time your type of traitors and vultures were spotted as susceptible and easy for manipulation to the coordinated propaganda against collective national interest. Had that not been the resolution for action, nations couldn’t have achieved much what was realized.Patriotism had the resolve and tenacity resisting all the same old,same old demonization schemes you have been bought in.
Miyoba # 78,
Expectation of building and realizing best national destiny with hopes of winning tosses and applauses from the same settlers who resisted and have the tradition of denying your dignity ever since, is nothing but naive, myopic and cowardly judgment.True political and economic independence is costly. Even America was built on sweat, pain, massive losses and for long isolation.I know what am writing about because i have been fortunate whilst there I extensively studied American “Presidential politics and Public Policies” from Washington to to Bush 43rd.His shift from multilateralism’ to unilateralism then now back to the first.
Mugabe did very well to forgo the many injustices of the settlers, preached coexistence with the smith murderers & proxies after independence. Ever since, he was the darling of Britain flattery called a model of modern Africa until he pressed hard for national equity that was meant to end the abnormal land and wealth ownership. God help us, 85% blacks dumped on a 15% rocky and infertile land against the 15% settlers who grabbed the 85% fertile land. Took all the Gold, Platinum, Copper,Uranium and zinc mineral rights to themselves to build Gold streets in London.
Miyoba # 78,
Does such a scenario make you busy and enthralls you? Does it give you a reason to call yourself an educated and rational citizen? Does it give you a bright future for your descendants-children and Grandies? Is moving to where you are and forfeiting it all to others a lasting solution?
Do you have a piece of land for your children’s options?
Miyoba # 78,
Mugabe’s time is up but Zimbabweans must find a true and selfless leader. Certainly dance to the dictates of Britain shuffling for their stooge to best rape the Zimbabwe national heritage. Never Tsvingirai the Imperials appeaser.Other wise Zimbabwe would be in another 10 years Zambia’s Chiluba sewage years experience.
imperialists must be business partners and not us working for them or being their appeasers 45 years after the revolutionary 1960s.
Peace
59 you have hit the nail on the head.Zambia has the opportunities now more than in the 90s.If Zim with their current situation can afford an airline what is our Govt waiting for?This govt really knows what it means to be slow.
It’s unfortunate that most of us Africans dont seem to look beyond the rhetoric on mugabe & zim. I concede, mugabe’s time maybe up however, the policies must remain in place long after he’s gone for the good of the country and continent. Precedence is being set here for other countries on the continent to come thru and enjoy.
Remember martin luther king jr, tauberman, f douglas lumumba, julia chikamoneka, kapwepwe, nkuruma etc died for a cause they never saw but paved the way for this generation to reap the rewards.
What am i saying on the situ in zim, sacrifices HAVE tobe made. Small wonder why mbeki can support such a person becoz as africans we turn to short to medium term solutions
cont/ solutions and dont want to dig in our heels for the long haul. Long term rewards are what we ought to be fighting for.
Perhaps we need to be asking ourselves why institutions such as the bank and fund feel thretened when zim paysup its loan. And why Angola doesnt want IMF/WB in their country. Maybe then for those in the dark still on global power plays can have some insight.
At the time of RHODESIA Independance A wise man Predicted,Yesterday Rhodesia,Today Zimbabwe,Tomorrow ZIMBABWE RUINS. TRUE
#91. what policies , the ones which bring unemployment , poverty and yes Bwana. How do you celebrate freedom when people die of aids! Inflaiton is a joke! The natives running out of the country to look for jobs!.
Patriot,
which revolution should we fight in Zambia. Or who should we blame for our underdevelopment ?, The chinese, the west or the indians ?
Patriot , my foot. Feed those zimbos with your crap.You are 40 yrs in independence and still, still blame colonialists.They are long time dead.Get a mirror and look thro it and you will see who is to blame for africa’s underdevelopment.Anyway, I do not have time to discuss pipo who do not want to help themselves.
And yes I have a piece of land in Zambia.I bought it and did not throw stones for it.
I cant believe these zimbabwaens.I always thought they were very militant—-instead they are running away instead of sorting Bob out.
With all his machinations, come June 27, Mugabe will be back on his High chair after a landslide victory….what a shame…its so sick!!!