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Foundation for Democratic Process (FODEP) in Mufulira says the proposed poll pact between the Opposition Patriotic Front (PF) and United Party for National Development (UPND) is a good  for Zambia ‘s democracy .

District FODEP chairperson Tennyson Nyirongo told ZANIS in interview today that the proposed talks are healthy for the country’s democracy as it will enhance the voice of the opposition.

Mr. Nyirongo said the two political parties agreement on the pact is a sign of political maturity emerging among the opposition parties .

He noted that the opposition has remained fragmented for a long time hence contributing to their failure to adequately represent the voters.

Mr. Nyirongo was commenting on the proposal electoral pact by the PF leader Michael Sata and UPND leader Hakainde Hichilema for the October 30 presidential by election.

And Mr. Nyirongo also said FODEP in the District has identified forty (40) monitors who will participate in the forthcoming election.

He said the names of monitors have since been submitted to the Electoral Commission of Zambia (ECZ) for accreditation through their national office.

In another development,The Patriotic Front-PF- has dismissed reports suggesting that it has entered into an electoral pact with the United Party for National Development, UPND.

PF leader, Michael Sata, says there has been no pact for the two parties to adopt a single candidate in the October 30 Presidential election.

Mr. Sata told a campaign meeting in Kafue, Thursday, that reports indicating that the two parties have agreed to field UPND president Hakainde Hichilema in the election, are false.

The PF leader said Mr. Hichilema will contest the election on his party’s ticket.

ZANIS/PS/CMM/MK/ENDS.

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221 COMMENTS

  3. what is Sata saying again?he is contradicting himself, yesterday we were told that talks between the two parties will be underway soon and now we are getting a different story.pliz PF and UPND, unite before it is too late.Rupiah has already gained massive popularity

  6. “Mr. Sata told a campaign meeting in Kafue, Thursday, that reports indicating that the two parties have agreed to field UPND president Hakainde Hichilema in the election, are false… PF leader said Mr. Hichilema will contest the election on his party’s ticket.” This is it, Hon. Sata has made it clear the he (sata) only wants HH and the UPND’s support for him to get to Plot 1 – a thing which is not feasible because there is not sense. Hon. Sata obviously thinks he can use HH’s money and popularity to win the Zambian Presidency. But thanks to the UPND for making it clear to the PF that HH can only laed as President with Sata as VP or advisor.NO NEED TO BE TRICKED UPND AND HH – go forward.

  7. If these guys wont unite them RB is headed for Victory. The same pattern of voting as evidenced in 2006 elections will prevail where the combined votes for the opposition was higher than the ruling party. If the two will stand then the votes will be fragmented giving a chance to RB

  8. The proposed pact has really scared mmd, thats why RB is trying to show people that its not a threat by talking about it in the press. Opposition maturity is now seen in zed and democracy is growing to a point where soon only real parties UPND & PF will remain as seen from these by elections, the insignificant (fake) parties will eventually die. Even if the fake paties showing support for RB do so we are not scared,cos they have no following, but when the real parties talk of a pact everybody including RP is on his toes, why?

  9. It unfortunate that all concerned want to be President of the overly fancied PF/UPND pact.HH u are to desperate,live your grandfather to rule now then 2016,everybody would be behind u,is that too far.Sata, don’t be selfish, u know u can’t win alone,remember this is your last chance for your long awaited dream.

  10. Visit ht tp :/ /ww w.zambia .co .zm/ index .php? action = results & poll_ident =15 or ht tp :/ /ww w.zambia .co .zm/ to check on the opinion poll for the Presidential hopefuls.

  12. Baby C i heard sata again saying there was no such talks when he was quoted saying that he’s calling for indaba.Sad this man does he posses some principles coz even if they didnt agree he shud have kept quiet and continue with his capaign,now the boat is going 2 sink and give RB chance to put mulongoti VP , ka teta GRZ spokesman,then christon,aka,chongwe and vj foreign service,katele cleared cases and bcome foreign min.What is your view?

  13. Can someone please tell me why a primary school graduate (eg Hon Sata) should rule Zambia when we have university graduates (HH and RB) on the Presidential race?

    I would rather we all focus on HH and RB for Zambian Presidency this time around and move on like this in future.

    Otherwise, how shall we continue with the much talked-about-legacy late President LPM (a UNZA graduate) left if we shall retrogressively vote in grade 7 people into Plot 1?

  17. There it goes!!!! There is too much greed in Zed politics. The idea of going to plot 1 blinds pipo from all logic. If the idea is to remove MMD why not agree to support one canditate & then go it alone in 2011. Power is so sweet & wonder if such individuals really have service for Zed pipo 1st on their agenda or something else…….

  18. The political pack between bashikulu and HH IS VERY GOOD AND WORTHY SUPPORTING.NOW Bashikulu should accept that he is not too fit to take tjhe presidency and in short let HAKAINDE HICHILEMA be president so that we can white wash RUDE BOYS TEAM.Come 30th october 2008 RB WILL BE WHITE WASHED WITH A BIG MAGINE.Fellow zambians LET US UNITE TO SEE PROPER DEMOCRACY IN THE COUNTRY PARTICULARILY RURAL AREAS AND A REGION AS A WHOLE.GO VOTE WITH /WITHOUT FAVOUR FOR hakainde hichilema as president dont vote on tribal grounds and regionalism.MZE

  20. It is good that sata has come out in the open that he will not make a pact with UPND, it has shown that he had failed to manipulate Hakainde over the power sharing and he has opted to go it alone

  21. I HAVE ALWAYS DOUBTED THE SINCERITY OF THE COBRA ON THIS NEEDFUL ISSUE.HH SEEMS TO HAVE SOME FEARS WHICH HE CANT OFFLOAD IN PUBLIC,BUT THE COBRA CANT EVEN SEE THAT AGE AND HEALTH ARE AGAINST HIM CURRENLY.LETS WAIT AND SEE.

  25. The polls for Presidential hopefuls are fake. General Miyanda is not contesting these elections, where then does he get the 6.1% from?
    Give us true details please:

    MCS – 39.1%
    HH – 37.1%
    RB – 17.7%
    G Miyanda – 6.1%

  26. This pact would have given sata a chance to be in power as a VP,cos in 2011 he will not be an issue, but he has turned around bearly 24hrs of talking about it. Can he surely be trusted? This is his last chance, cos if the pact fails we shall vote for HH anyway, he seems more principled and ideed educated.

  27. HH IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE WITHOUT A DENT INTERMS OF POLITICAL STANDING IN ZAMBIA.LET SATA DIE WITH HEART ATTACK AND LIVE HH ALONE TO AVOID ANOTHER NATIONAL MOURNING IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS.WE DONT WANT TO HAVE A DICTATOR LIKE MUGABE.PLIZ FELLOW ZAMBIANS RB AND SATA = NATIONAL MOURNING.HH ALONE =NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.HAKAINDE FOR PRESIDENCY.PLIZ VOTE WISELY.

  28. Zambian politics have got to grow up and mature. Marriages of convenience dont work. Some of these guys would sleep with the devil just to get to plot1. The question is not just about getting rid of MMD, it is also about what you do when you get to plot 1. To me a pact simply to get rid of MMD is cheap politics. It would be great to see UPND or PF ousting MMD because they have managed to convince the electorate that they are best suited to solve Zambia’s problems. These mergers are just for lazy politicians.If they were to win, I bet they would fall apart as soon as they started to carry out the real work because they dont share a vision or ideology on how to make Zambia more prospesrous

  29. People don’t understand, Sata proposed the pact idea to HH, and even before HH responds he withdraws. Then how do you implicate HH in such dirty politics. These are Sata’s traits and will continue doing this until he dies, mind you old habits die hard.

  30. Ba yama ba Sata can realy be senseless. Why cant the man realise we will only boot out MMD with a merger? People HH is not selfish but unsure because truthfully ba Sata tababa honest. Sata is mature and hard working but discourages me a lot because of his lack of consistency. Can people close to these guys tell them what we are asking them to do is what makes sense please!!!!
    There is no time, RB is busy where there winning votes came from last time and meanwhile our opposition are domant. Yaba!!

  35. 33 what is to boom??? indeed you can boom them he he he. They are too smart for your liking eeh!! and you realise they will never allow Sata to plot 1.

  36. Great point there #s 28 and 29.
    It is only HH and the UPND alone and there is no need to enter in a marriage of convenience to win the 2008 elections by joing into a PACT with the PF.
    HH, consider taking Maureen Mwanawasa on borad the UPND so that she can share the VISION late LP Mwanawasa had for Zambia. Then you can see how to convince Magande to come back to his political party like you tried with Sakwiba so that Zambia can go forward and never backwards.

  39. I knew that Sata never meant what he said on Sky fm when he proposed an indaba with UPND.Its good tho that HH was smart enough not to have been manupulated.HH pls you have our support.In 2006 we REGRETEBLY voted for sata cos we didnt know HH very well.Now this time its Zambia forward with someone fit and energetic.Sata get lost with your lies/chameleon like behaviour.Saki also regreted having supported you.This time only your family members will vote for you.

    GOO HH GOO

  40. Bloggers is there any way one can attach a file when posting comments? I have Sata’s new campaign for 2008 Presidential Bye-Elections. Those who want give ur e-mail IDs will forward 2 u.

  41. kamon ba rb, bring in young men close to u i mean ama vice president kwati ba mutati filya, a. i suggets the next cabinet to be rb1 , mutati2,fundanga finance,mangande govenor,guy robison agricultural,foreine kabinga. religious affairs mumba,women gender mulasikwanda,sports mbulamano,ispector of police sata

  42. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe I think your mind is clouded and lacks objectivity…Its not the Degree or the age that counts when it comes to leadership….Just state your aim clearly rather than attach the old Man…He means well for Zambia and for that UBWATO is a good brand much more dependable than Forward(Backwards) or the Hour (has gone) as it is addressing most of the average Zambians issues

    Fakani Koni Zelu

  43. THE COBRA SHOWS ITS TRUE COLOURS, HIDE AND SEEK AND THEN BITE.

    SATA IS ALWAYS A CROWD PLEASER WHO DOES NOT KNOW THE DIFFRENCE BETWEEN CHINA AND TAIWAN……Maaaaawe Sata….Cycle Mata.

    Viva HH

  44. # 14 Maestro Hichilema look if the highly educated and excellent HH is that saleable to the electorate let him be judged by the poll results. Otherwise if last elections is anything to go by he only has one province where you come from which is supporting him. Unfortunately he can’t become president by that fact. So work hard to sale him. Otherwise the education factor on your HH is not counting, I am thus afraid.

    Enrol him for another degree probably. Prof Goma was never thought of to lead the country. Why are you insulting other distinguished politicians in Zambia who have exceptionally acquitted themselves very well without passing through UNZA? What is in it with you and UNZA? U suck.

  45. WE ARE IN STATE HOUSE WITH HH.ENOCK KAVINDELE IS NOW I N UPND IN SEARCH OF A JOB.LET RB AND HIS SUPPORTERS COOK UP THEMSELVES.SO THAT PALYANSA CAN WIN.WE ARE FED UP OF BEING MISLED BY CHEAP AND VERBAL POLITICS.SATA RELAX BASHIKULU WE ALSO WANT TO ENJOY WHAT YOU ENJOYED.WHY CHANGE LIKE A LUVWI.WEK UP UPND DONT BE CHEATED BY THE COBRA OF EDEN IN ZAMBIA.STATE HOUSE IS YOURS IN NOVEMBER.TWACHULA SANA MWANAWANDI HH KASAMA

  46. Sakwiba Sikota knows the FRUITS OF SIGNING POLITICAL PACTS WITH CYCLE MATA.

    HH learn from Sakwiba……Cycle Mata has RECYCLED POLITICAL IDEAS….too old for modern politics

    HH Obama of Zambia.

    Viva HH

  47. This just means that all those that are not for Humpty Dumpty(RB) shouldnt bother to vote because the ‘pact’ was the only shot the opposition had of taking over power.

    And it could also mean that mmd will win in 2011 as well unless somebody else apart from sata and hh steps up to the challenge.

  48. Mwebalebosa boseni – Say what you want – you are all wasting your time coz us the real voters know where to cast our votes!

  50. # 46 Sakwiba is not the best yard stick to use here. He was hounded ku-malende. Nanama??? I beg to differ that Hakaivotela Heka should be the Obama??? What?! Stop those insults you cheap bafana. Let us vote and see whether he will command the following Obama has. Little hh is only known somewhere in a small corner. Ouch!! That hurts.

  51. Ba Tennyson twakana sana sana, we dont want any pact .Whose going to be the president and Vice President maybe if only HH agrees to be Veep.

    Viva PF

  52. I think Mr. Sata is playing with people’s mind, we are not his children whom he should cheat all day night. he talks something today, the other day he forgets and changes. this man, lets be careful with him, if voted to be Zambia’s president, he will forget what he has promised the people during campaign.he can’t be trusted, he is like a snake in the grass.

  53. We had United National Independence Party (UNIP) then because we needed independence, and Movement for Multipaty Democracy (MMD) soon came into being because we realised that democracy was needed. Now that we have the independency and the democracy we required, it is time to talk of National Development and this is where United Party for National Development (UPND) comes in. Zambians please lets be serious and know what we want and need at this time. Zambia needs to be developed and it is only a party with economic managers who understands the currents trends of development in this world who will do us good. How on Earth can one vote for Sata???!!!!

  54. If HH is Wise he should have been wise enough to learn from the Master ba SATA.Good things are surely promised to those that are humble and meek.

    Ubwato Chabe no option

  55. Chakubabani?? U didnt want the pact now why are you this bitter?? The pact is not here. Are u scared your small obama will be embarassed???? Ouch!!!

  56. Sata was insulting the chinese only recently and today he cheats that he will embrace them only because he has seen how Zambian appreaciate the development brought by the chinese under the able leadership of the late LPM. Now he (sata) wants to cheat that he shares the same vision with the late LPM who he spent all his time insulting?? Sata is a serious opportunists and chancer who wanted to ride on HH but has failed. HH has been clear and straight forward in his campaign and sata knows for sure that it will not be easy this time around. He is even pleading for the MPs he labelled as rebels in his desparation to come back and campaign for him. It is good that we have people like….

  57. Your lies. #53 u take copperbelt coz u know that is Sata’s area. UPND failed to be united when the ma-lende saga came to be. How else do u expect very sane people like me with a very powerful memory to fail to remember such rubbish??? I go 4 Sata now! Are u pissed off for failing to convince me??

  58. ..Hon Saviour Chishimba who have pledged to help Zambians not find themselves being ruled by this dicatator. They have said they will ensure that they campaign against sata. The broke sata is very desparate indeed and this time around the taiwanese are not there to fund him because their problems with china is being solved by themselves well.

  59. Majority of you people on the blog dont understand issues. Mr Sata was saying they havent formed a pact yet and that is the truth. Earlier mr Sata said that have to talk with UPND for the act. They havent yet come to that. Before you start condemning please read and understand. Sometimes I wonder what you are doing in foreign countries if you cant just read and comprehend simple text. HH is untested politically and does not even understand how government work. Look at the rise of US presidents.
    Just for your own information Sata is well educated and has an economic degree from UK. He started humbly from below. this is the reason why he knows what he talks about.

  60. HH For PRESIDENT, no recycled leaders like SATAN.The chap has no morals and can change overnight. He has refused to hand over power to young terks like Lubinda despite his rotten heart. He is not a good parent and is sturborn like Mugabe. He supported the merger and wanted to use same tricks. Nothing could have benefited HH by lying in the sane bed with a spiting cobra. Its like a foolish fly being burried with a corpse. RB is old and even older than KK when we removed him from office. VIVA HH, VIVA PROGRESS, VIVA HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

  63. mwebalikumangalande mutekalye…sanaaaa
    Ngamulefwaya ngu elyo SATA is wining even without H.H GOGO SATA..NIPABWATOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO< PABWATOOOOOFYEEEEEEEEEE
    BA..RB already nababasepa 2-0 kuliBaSATA…2 rallies so far, RB nil

  64. Sata has problems dealing with the few MPs he has. He has seriuosly showed Zambians how undemocratic and dictatorial he is. What about leading the massive Zambia, if a person is already having problems with just a fews MPs and mayors? Sata has never been close to being a national leader and I am happy that unlike last time when he had a chance because of the funding from the taiwanese he had, this time around in he is extremely poor and his health can also not allow him to carry out intensive campaigns within the given time. HH started his campaigns long ago and he has the money to campaign. He has not been a chain smoker or rather a chimney like sata.

  67. Founding father Robert Gabriel Mugabe who is currently leading the Zimbabwe branch/wing, has been favoured to grace as the guest of honour in his (SATA’s) inauguration Ceremony if voted into Power.

    Mugabe apparently is Michael Sata hero.

    The Zimbabwe branch has just managed to secure a negotiated power sharing settlement in Zimbabwe with the assistance of southafricas Thabo MBEKI.

    The investor community is aprehensive of a SATA regime as threats of expulsion have previously been propagated from SATA’s ZANU-PF as was

  69. The Post Newspaper’ and SATA alliance is mucked with ill motive besides its wrong timing. The two have previously been known to have reconciled before and this latest attempt is seen in the light of the Presidential elections.

    SATA is also courting UPND for a possible Political Pact with a the aim of fielding a single candidate between the two Political Parties-Sata’s ZANU-PF and UPND’s HH.

  70. NO 48 anonymous..are you coming to vote …..Ngamwaisa nipa BWATOOOOOOOFYEEEEEEE more money in pocket, low taxes..no corruption

  71. Gentlemen we all know that Sata sufferes from verbal diarrhea. He just says whatever he thinks will please people at that particular moment.

  73. #14 u must be sick in your mind how can you call a bigman that way respect is good,i think u are a TONGA OR LOZI who hate pipo for nothing.Use you heard to think and not your legs silly

  74. 59 Tambalukuta Mankangala

    Why start telling lies, which university in the UK did Sata obtain an economic degree from?. We daubt if Sata has even seen the inside of a senior secondary school classroom.

  75. I am very much in support of the suggestion by MCS that PF and UPND work together. But only on the condition that HH will be the presidential candidate. Otherwise, HH should just go for it alone, even if it means losing the elections.

    In my view, MCS is not the right person to lead this coalition because of his advanced age, extremely poor PR, dictatorial tendencies, not particularly good health, not particularly impressive CV, uncertain stand on the fight against corruption, uncertain stand on the NCC, and he has flip–flopped so many times on so many fundamental issues that one does not honestly know what he actually stands for.

  77. #64 i think you from southern province and you have never been to CB and see how popular SATA is and the cooperation with his MPs i think he SATA was right disccipline matters nway,even its was in the MMD these MP would have reprimanded so think before you yap…..silly you dont even vote i understand youy a WATCH TOWER,CHITOWALA IWEE

  78. jus vote stop complaining. u can’t change politicians. it has been commerciallised. let us breack the family tree and create more jobs for MBA/PhD GUYS.. tired of the under dogs.. stone throwers hee heee

  79. #75 WHY do you think HH should be the presidential candidate in the pact with SATA,dont you know that SATA IS LUSAKA,SATA IS CB,WAKE my tonga friend dont think of cademic cv but in politics its action and command that matters

  80. #28 I totally agree with yo reasoning but the problem is that it takes more than hard work on the part of a politian to oust a ruling party. Don’t underestimate all govt machinery at their disposal which in itself is a mountain to climb for any opposition. So the best strategy in beating such a system is the opposition coming behind one canditate so that we avoid having split votes in the opposition. Look back at ’92. It took all parties coming behind FTJ. Yes! The best would be for each party to win fair & square on their own but a tough call in our young democracy.

  81. Sata, like uncle Bob from Zim, does not believe that there is such a thing as a single digit inflation figure. the man does not even appreciate how the inflation figure is derived and how to make use of it as a control tool for development.

  83. The fools jus took advantage of sata’s popularity,some of them are not mp material like mulojas of kwacha kitwe, apena kumaule chikamba ati ba mp. Liv sata alone

  85. #no 80 I see your point but my argument against such pacts especially when you are discussing parties such as UPND and PF which are already established are bound to fail because when you get rid of MMD then what? They actually have to govern. Also, I think our young democracy needs to move away from personality politics to politics based on ideology and beliefs. If UPND and PF can form a pact so easily, then to me they are not that different from each other which means this whole notion of having multi parties is a fallacy. Ideological politics would also help in curtailing tribal voting.

  86. #77, iyo kwena katwishi waponta. Anyway I will not insult back. I wish you well. I know that you are not at the copperbelt either because the flag against your name can clearly show is in Zambia right now. If your wishes are that I was a chitowala, It is really sad news for you becausde I am an adventist.

    natotela mukende umutende umutende nkani mulikwisa mu kuvota ku Zambia. mukese kabotu na muliswini kuzo vota beshi.

    baie dankie, moi by. Totsien my broer.

    Simonza mponono uzukuluzya mpalala!!

  89. im nsenga but can never support RB. hh is a gud man and politics are dirty, sata for president coz he is a real politician. pa bwato

  92. I think Sata is a divisive figure and will only harm the future of Zambia. His inconsistency scares me. If he wins, God help those that did not vote for him. Remember murambastvina in Zim? Govt wont function normally, policy will be made on the hoof.It will be whatever he thinks at that particular moment in time which as we have already seen will change a couple of hours later. How can govt function in such a climate? As for the cabinet, it will be filled with yes men who will be in constant fear of losing their jobs.

  95. hey #90 what is that? come on guys let us be constructive in our contribution . its absurd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  98. #90 , 94 atutaki matusi pilizi………
    that is not zamibain legacy left by HELPM ?????
    Sisi wa Mugu….. christian Nation

  101. HH FOR PRESIDENT, SATAN PLEASE GO AND REST, YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER PLEASE.

    WE DON’T WANT TO RUN OUT OF PATIENCE TO KICK YOU OUT OF THE RACE, YOU SUCK

  102. Iwe osama dont you know that by associating your self with that name you are attracting the attention of CIA and all other Intelligency Agencies trailing the real osama.

    Believe you me, they already know you by now including your great grand father.

    Be careful eh

  106. I THINK BA SATA YOU ARE NOT SERIOUS,TODAY YOU SAY SOMETHING TOMORROW YOU SAY SOMETHING, I THINK YOU ARE JUST ONE MAN PEOPLE SHOULD LEARN NOT TO TRUST YOU, CAUSE OF YOUR FLIP, FLIP, FLIPPING STATEMENTS JUST REMEMBER YOU ARE AN OLD MAN WITH SOME HEALTHY PROBLEM AS WELL IF YOUNG PEOPLE CAN DIE WHILE DOING HEAVY STATE DUTIES HOW ABOUT YOU…IT NOT TO LATE TO BE REALLY SO MAKE UP YOUR MIND SIR,ASSIST HH TO COME TO POWER YOU WONT REGRET IT.

  109. We we unawako nyumbani namimi ninawangu nyumbani!! chuki yanini kati yangu mimi nawewe…….one girlfriend messing up two guys

    vote wisely not blindly—- kwalola umwela…..

  110. #106

    If you study yesterdays reported rantings of SATA you will notice that he was emotional ka.

    Now I warned people before, unless he is going to be whispering when campaigning, otherwise he will trigger a killing punch frm within himself.

  113. In bemba, there is a saying that “Ichikwanka, bachimwena kuma mpalanya” This proverb means that signals will tell you whether an event is well-meaning or not. Looking at Sata, even his face can tell that he is power hungry and his political experience has nothing to bring to Zambia except to just take Zambia the Zimbabwean way with Mugabe being its leaders with a lot of political experience as well.

  118. One can clearly see that Sata is a dictator and those who support him supports him on tribal lines. Even them they know that Zambia will not be a pleasant place to stay in with Sata as president. I wish the good quality bembas like Valentine Chitalu and even Bwalya Chiti were politicians so that we would be talking about real quality in politics and not this unrealistic thing of equating presidential material for the 21 st centuary in HH to the Mugabe type of political experience in Sata.

    Fellow Zambians lets consider the bemba proverb “Ichikwanka, bachimwena kuma mpalanya” We only have one Zambia and the problems Sata will bring to Zambia will affect all of us.

  119. go sata go sata gosta gosata go sata gosata go sata go sata go sat go sata. pf guyz dont worry we have ored won. even here @ LT we are the majority, just count. pf

  120. PF and UPND would do well to work together. Clearly King Cobra feels PF can successfully make in-roads into rural Zambia by October 30th. He is a wise man, so he must know what he is doing. Otherwise, there is always 2011.

  124. We wont eat degrees o fHH plezzii, thats his and his for keeps it wont change our lives. Levy had degrees it never changed the lives of Zedians he has just died with his degrees. This chap HH by the time he is 50 he would have attempt to presidency 4 times and failing 4 times! SHAME!

  125. Very sad indeed ‘the teenager and her grand father’ are going to rule zambia. come 2011, the grand father will be much stronger in his own rite, to go thru to 2016. whther he suvives God only knowz. These Satas and HHs, believe me will be of no consequency and irrelevant. They have thrown away the only chance they will ever get of redeeming zambia. and they are now both finnished, coz seperately they cant stop the tsunami tide sweeping RB to plot one. Not with the village power. they have divided the spoils in favour of RB. Anyway both do not deserve you powerful votes, as they have shown poor judgement and selfishness.
    God bless our Zambia.

  126. #120 MWILA

    I doubt whether you mearnt to say that SATA is wise, so I am ready to overlook that oversight. ‘Shrewd’ may be is the right word.

    Shrewd as in manipulative thinking.

    I believe the above is in order, thanking you in advance.

  128. HH will never be President. No one in his right mind (who is not Tonga)and remembers how non Tongas were hounded out of UPND with ‘only a Tonga can be UPND President and that the position is reserved for a Tonga’, will vote HH as President of Zambia. To the rest RB or Sata Good luck.

  129. #120 MWILA

    I think it is only appropriate that all, not just Mwila, try to employ the right words.

    Can you just imagine if Mwila said that before an audience. Nontheless, we all make mistakes.

    The word shrewd can also be applied to a hoodwinker, so I believe it is very appropriate in this case, exactly discribing SATA’s disposition.

    Thank you once again.

  131. #42 and 44, please HH and UPND do not not the PF-UPND PACT and so please advise you Hon. sata to go it alone if he is not willing to be in the background of HH as President.

    That is where the game ends. It is HH for President or there is not PF-UPND PACT.

  132. Lest I am accused of just being a babbler, I will give an example.

    In yesterdays reporting and subject of discussion, SATA was quoted challenging others for medical test to prove the health status of the candidates. Knowing very well that such an undertaking would not materials he however sent out the challenge.

    To the seeing, it is clear he was simply trying to divert attention from his well known questionable health status. And there you a clear attempt to hoodwink by the shrewd SATA. I rest my case.

  133. #88 Chengelo Alumni, tata address njooka ndipa jilo taibeleki. So ndiyakupanga iili-fictitious njonga wandi tumina lugwalo. makani ngolemba a 88 alayaka munzi.

  136. #13. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe; the answer to your question is simple: We’ve tried those with so-called degrees and they have failed us miserably! What have got to lose?

  137. Question.. Where is ALexandra Chikwanda in all this because in both chiluba and kaunda’s time he was always the silent brain behind the presidents ..you never saw him in the spot light but he was the man behind the man . thats how he has always been able to be undetectable , i would not be at allstunned if he is to be the brains behind RB .

  138. Did late President LP Mwanawasa fail you #136? please provide and answer without emotions.

    Let the would-be first ladies (Mrs HH, RB and Sata) also address the National on their perceived potential projects they have in mind for Zambia if and when they will assume the position of wife to the Zambian president. A live debate on MUVI TV or ZNBC is welcome for this.

  139. I think the way this thing works is like the formation of UDA there three different parties but in a way one.If you have noticed what Sata said “The PF leader said “Mr. Hichilema will contest the election on his party’s ticket.””This does not mean there not together he is simply saying while supporting HH,There not making one Party.PF will support UPND. one opposition but two parties.

  140. #13. Maestro Hhehhehhehhe; the answer to your question is simple: We’ve tried those with so-called degrees and they have failed us miserably! What have we got to lose?

  142. #140, who else apart from late LPM had a degree among the former Zambian Presidents?

    To this end, I repeat my answer in form of a question to you:

    Did late President LP Mwanawasa fail you #136? please provide and answer without emotions.

  144. Sata’s signs of Failure:
    1. A Good # of his MPs are against him.
    2.Has no money to organise his party.
    3.PACT is not possible- HH refused, he does not trust him.
    4.Of the aspiring candidates, sata is least educated, most tribalistic,and too old.
    5.Time is against him and the ERA does not fit him.
    6.His health is deteriorating- damage done by smoking cannot be reversed.

  145. Why talking too much let us just vote for the right person RB no Sata yes
    Sata is the man we want more money in our pockets and more jobs what do you think…

  146. Sata is equally power hungry and his hunger has even gone to the bone marrow. Lets face it and his supporters should be objective when making arguments because it appears there are so blind to this fact.Be real than being biased.

  147. #144

    Come to think of it, SATA could be about 85 years, H looks like it.

    O.k perhaps 85 years may be a bit off but certainly not 75 years as he claims.

  148. The answer to all these assertions that the Hon. Sata supproters are advancing is that, let HH, RB and Sata got it each alone. So we will see what happens on Oct 30, 2008.
    Let the best man win!
    As for me, I am safer with HH much more than RB as President of Zambia. According to me, Hon. Sata changes his position too much like a chameleon changes its colour, Sata supports Mugabe, Sata has very humble education giving him irrational thinking on matters including “RB turns 360 degrees …” that appeared yesterday and so on and so forth so much that Hon Sata is not fit to be Zambian President.

  149. Even Pf starts with Sata and ends with Sata. This why there has never been any convention. The Presidency in PF is the preserve of Sata.Full stop.

  150. #149. Zambian,

    You are right. PF is basically sata, even his members know that if they changed president that would be the end of PF.
    In the same way if PF formed a pact with HH, the only option that would keep PF members and followers is if SATA is made presidential candidate. If the Pact made a mistake and put HH as president almost all the PF members/followers would scarter and go to RB. very few would put their vote on HH.
    But again if HH agrees to SATA being president, that will be the end of HH. The next thing we would here after 5 years is that HH is now a cattle farmer.

  151. The marriage of convinience between PF and UPND should be sunctioned and supported by all progressive minds. UPND and PF must dislodge the MMD from power this November 2008. After victory is attained, this is how power should be shared; SATA should be made President to control Cabinate and the police service, while HH should be made Vice President to control the Defence and Security. Also HH must control Finance, trade and industry upto 2011. By this time HH would have gained enough experience to become president. HH must serve under Sata after the October 30, 2008 elections and become Zambian President in 2011. VIVA SATA VIVA HH

  152. SATA and HH should not cry after October 30.
    Their greedy and hunger for power is their no.1 enemy.
    They want to rule and not to serve the nation. that is why they will keep fighting for plot #1. The real leader does fight like them, spending sleepless nights, why?
    Look at the late LPM, he was busy enjoying his business and he was followed up.
    This time, it is RB; he was busy farming (I am sure it must have been groundnuts) and he too was followed up, no strugle.
    If you have no talent, you have to strugle to sing just one chorus, but you gut talent the moment you just say a word it sounds like music and people clap. Go RB, go!

  153. Dudes what makes a good president is not a good education or experience but clarity of vision. Effective presidents have strategic visions and a direction in which they want to lead the people. They explain their vision in a way that allows people to understand their circumstances and develop confidence in those proposals. This is what makes Sata a better choice of the three. Sata has a sincere vision but the problem is that he’s panicking because he hasn’t got much time to himself. Put this man in state house and he’ll do wonders never seen in Africa before. HH is second and RB last.

  154. Guys, vote for Sata for a positive change to be realised.
    RB and HH are time wasters. Shame on HH, how he grabed the position from Sakwiba. imagine. What kind of a leader is he going to make?

  155. Has the proposed PF-UPND meeting been held already? Until such a meeting is held and an agrrement entered and signed each Party is on its own. No one Party has the ‘right’ to pre-empty and influence who the Presidential candidate from the merger should be. It is in this context that, I believe, Mr. Sata was responding to. If the UPND is already out ‘advertising’ HH as the Presidential candidate of the PF-UPND pact before the meeting is held, they are the greedy party.

  157. IF HH is not president there will be no pact, we know the tricks of the northerners. How long have i been saying that there is no room for Thieves at state house. Ubwato is not an option, Tonga Bulls have taken matters in their own hands, we really dont care to lead, but we will do everything possible to keep a Thieving Northerner out of office. NO PACT. TONGA BULLS HAPPY FRIDAY. #148 try Lwendo 9 at Yahoo, not sure why no hotmail

  160. # 159 I am sure very soon will be time for worship, but yes i will be in churc for sabbath school at 9am. Sabata Imbotu, if i could just hear it sang by the hanweenes i would be so happy!

  161. Insabata mbuzuba bwa-Leza, tulaboola kuiya zya-Jesu.

    #160, kuboneka mbulikuti ndacikonzya kutuma lugwalo kuli ndiwe.

    Mebo, kuno yatali nsabata. more l8r.

  165. THIS PF /UPND PACT WAS STARTED BY SATA HIMSELF DURING THE MONZE INTERVIEW.HE PROBABLY THOUGHT INTERVIEW WOULD ONLY BE HEARD IN THE SOUTH IN ORDER FOR PF TO HAVE VOTES THERE.HE HAS NOW DONE A TURN BECAUSE SAME HAD NOT YET BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THE UPND.MAYBE THERE WILL BE LATEST BEFORE ELECTIONS DAY.

  166. Let Sata fight a fellow sent force RB may be we will get value for our votes. HH should prepare himself for the real fight in 2011 Let the old fools fight each other for they know each other well. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN in right corner is Bwezan who hails from Gunda in Rodesia wearing a cloak and in left corner is Chilufya who hails Dodoma in Tanganyika sitting in the boat. May the biggest fool win, you may ring the bell.

  167. This wastage of time calling for a political pact between ideologues of dissimilar values is a sign of immaturity, disconnection and fanatical idealism not synonimous with realism. These are incongruent tickets by all dimensions opportunistically rival in dreams.This is why i call this kind of cadrish calls, remote, disconnected, danderously dangerous and self demeaning.Mature analysts and strategists know where building critical mass is not practical.Hence avoid this self humiliation and mental torture.Any vote other that on MMD is spoiled vote because this Zambia’s continuity election with LPM legacy.Nothing more and nothing less but just that.

  168. Democracy is institutional. It starts at intra-party not learnt at national level only. MMD has transparently being leading the way hence being a national party. If a party is not open to internal democracy, it holds no moral authority to reign in power over a democratic society and country. Zambians have tested and matured in Democracy. They want leaders and parties open to intra-party democracy. They are privy to engendering their treasured democracy to scambags allergic to competitive intra-party democracy. Sata and Hichilema must open up to democracy, get entrenched in it and become mandated products of the process not leadership by tribal coronations and decree on the subservient.

  171. RB appeals to eastern voters
    Acting President, Rupiah Banda, says he expects a hundred per cent vote from Eastern Province in the October, 30 Presidential election.

    Mr. Banda says this is because he comes from the region.

    “RB has started showing his true colours. How can a presidencial candidate talk like this.

    Please dont vote for this dunderhead he will divid our country”.
    VIVA HH!!!

  172. chi 13 ulichipuba hav u ever heard of anyone doing a degree to be presdnt. y r politics calld a dirt game, anyone can go for it, even u
    and only a few in this game r honord with respct. eg Madiba, the rest r rats

  174. Number 171 have you forgotten that HH said that Lozi’s should not vote for Sikota’s party because it was supporting a Bemba President but instead Lozi’s should vote for their candidate. Have you forgotten HH’s campaign that UPND president must be a Tonga? Who is the divisive one? He divided the vibrant UPND Mazoka and others built. Do not be blind to facts. HH loves power too much.

  175. I WISH FOR AN HH WIN IN OCTOBER AND THEN WE SHALL SEE WHAT THE TRIBALISTS ON THIS INTERESTING BLOG SHALL BE SAYING ABOUT TRIBALISM AND SOUTHERNERS.GOOD LUCK.

  176. I think Tongas and your HH are so ilogical! pliz advise your HH to pact with Sata so that when they win he is assured to president later.But from the look of things if MMD wins then HH will never rule, period. Pact with sata for your own good after all Sata has a little or nothing to lose, He’s old mind you. Let him give leverage!!!

  177. Zambians may somebody kindly advise HH that he should take his time and resources for 2011, just face fact, his the only able candidate for that year and will take his 10 yrs with deligence, sometimes in Zambia peaple what to show off that they have enough money to spend when its not important. For now my fellow bloggers you agree with me that we only need 2 candidates to race for the vaccance. Belive or not come 2011 most of us will vote for HH for changes’ sake.

  179. #177 there is no need for HH to take his time. HH is not impossing himself on the people of Zambia. He is merely offering people of Zambia an option and if they believe in him they should vote for him. If they do not believe in him they should vote for Banda or Sata. Politicians should only sign pacts if they share similar ideology. Pacts for the sake of winning an election are dangerous. After an election you must be able to govern. Sata and HH look at issues differently so nothing stops Sata from dissolving parliament after winning and call for fresh elections and where will that leave HH. He will be in political oblivion.

  180. #171 it is not true that HH said a Tonga must succeed Mazoka. Those comments were made by one person Mwananjiti who is not even a friend or business partner of HH. As for the comments on Saki HH was answering a question from the public as who (tribe) Saki was having an electoral pact with and he stated the truth that Sata is Bemba. There is nothing tribal about that. In fact all over the world you need a political base to have any chance at national elections. Magande was discarded by MMD because he has no political base. Banda has eastern province. Magande has no support from southern even if hecomes from there because people there do not agree with his vision.

  181. I agree with 179. You should not get into pacts for the sake of getting rid of MMD. It has to be more fundamental than that. After you get rid of MMD, you have to govern and deliver and for that to succeed you need to share some ideology and vision. I think the best outcome is one where Sata never gets into plot1. HH can take his time. He is not even fifty yet. It is Sata for whom it is now or never. Rightly or wrongly, people perceive the UPND to be a party for Southerners. What HH needs to do now is show that he wants to be leader of Zambia. He can do that by appointing people from all over Zambia. He then will have the chance of winning without selling his soul to the dangerous Satana

  183. I have already bought my ticket on Emirates so my traditional cousin HH is definately assured of one vote from me. He will not be embarrased like Nevers Mumba who got 0 as he lost the nomination to Banda.

  184. maybe sata sees only himself at zed.kafue, where sata made that statement that he never made any pact with hh,is not the whole zambia.yes he drew a large and got intoxicated with that.ba sata ala abantu balaya naku zoo just for the fun of it.they also came to hear why maureen chased at the funeral in chipata and nothing else.ze bigge its time to swallow your pride and change otherwise you wont even come near state house this time RB[RUBISH BIN] will take the day.

  185. The rather sad thing is that we have all seen this this play before. Prior to election time the most prominent, but regional, parties have the sudden desire to join forces in order to oust the ruling party and make empty pronouncement but nothing of substance takes place. Neither PF nor UPND has a prayer of winning against the MMD because they are REGIONAL parties relying on tribal politics. They both need to do much more to prove that they can move beyond that and become all-inclusive. Like it or not, the MMD has an edge because it has better representation across Zambia.

  187. Surely as Zambian we are above kutukanana based on where people come from. Anybody who is Zambian can aspire to be pres as long as they show that they are for Zambia and not power hungry tyrants. I dont care if my pres is Wandya, Nyiha, Luchazi, Lima, Chikunda, Sala, Ndembu etc as long as they have the best interest of the WHOLE country.

  188. Maybe this should be a lesson for all future aspirants for plot no1. From the outset, try to be inclusive and engage with like minded people no matter which part of the country they come from. Nobody will then be able to label you as ‘tribal’.

  189. Every thing about the pact is trash!!! Who does not know how the cobra behaves? Can Sata let somebody be in front of him now? Ney, he is not the kind. If HH accepts that, then he will be shocked at the turn of events the moment sata wins. Facts of the matter is that Sata and HH are all power hypocrates such that they all want to be at the helm, come rain come sun shine. You remember how long it took Sata to leave the MMD because he thought it was his chance then?

  190. Going by the recent personal attack on RB….Sata seem to have fogoten what the people of zambia want to know… A person who will redeem the people from poverty. not which party one belongs .the issue weather RB is UNIP or not sohuld not corcern him.
    Bamudala we want issue based politics. I think HH the man.I have spoken to him.He has a listerning spirit has opposed to Sata. so leadership qualities HH. Will allow BaSata just to finnish Levys term.Just thinking loudly.

  191. I agree with #27 and many others-SATA is unpredictable he may just come from somewhere with a”NEW HEART”and say OSAMA BIN LADIN is his brother.We are were we are due to a bad constitution which needs to be changed but the man says NO TO NCC.HE also TAIWAN IS HIS PAL and not CHINA-IMAGINE!When even AMERICA can’t do without them because their economy is one of the fastest growing.we obviously have plenty to learn from the CHINESE.HH IS THE MAN UNLESS we still want to recycle politicians.
    viva HH and your youthful ideas.

  192. PF=PROBLEMS IN FRONT-SATA could live up to this in many ways.HEALTHWISE and policywise…Imagine him addressing the UN GENERAL ASSEMBLY and he cracks some good BEMBA PROVERB and translates it to ENGLISH,I wonder if we could be taken seriuosly as a nation.Anyway,the choice is ours.AM SURE AS ZAMBIANS WE DESERVE BETTER,HH CAN DO US PROUD.

  193. we gonna vote Sata,Rb is UNIP.U HH supporter don’t understand tht u fellow became UPND president through tribalsim.
    He has no experience at all.How can u pick a director of small company which is just in lusaka to become a president?Are u crazy?
    The problem is tht u don’t understand even if we tell u the truth about HH just because he’s yo fellow.
    To make matters worse HH is just famours in southern only.Atleast Sata is popular in 5 provinces.Zambian don’t forget how u treated sakwiba and chisaga through stupid old tribalism which doesn’t exist in our modern days.It was very clear tht only a tonga would succed mazoka instead of people who formed the party.Stupid tribalists destroyed UP

  194. we gonna vote Sata,Rb is UNIP.U HH supporter don’t understand tht u fellow became UPND president through tribalsim.
    He has no experience at all.How can u pick a director of small company which is just in lusaka to become a president?Are u crazy?
    The problem is tht u don’t understand even if we tell u the truth about HH just because he’s yo fellow.
    To make matters worse HH is just famours in southern only.Atleast Sata is popular in 5 provinces.Zambian don’t forget how u treated sakwiba and chisaga through stupid old tribalism which doesn’t exist in our modern days.It was very clear tht only a tonga would succed mazoka instead of people who formed the party.Stupid tribalists destroyed UPN

  196. HH was too power hungry in his push to lead UPND. He showed the same with his push to lead UDA. He is not capable of letting someone else lead. In two short years he has done immense damage to the Zambian political scene. He can never enter a pact unless he is leader. What Zambia needs are leaders who are patient and willing to support others. The UPND/PF pact will therefore never happen.

  199. HH WABOLA November 2008, Zambia FORWARD.

    “Vote UPND’s HH for economic independence, a NEW and JUST Zambia. Where the Zambia people will move with their heads high as the PRIDE of this World after 30 or so years of hardships under the leadership of cold-heartless crooks and thieves whose education can hardly be traced.

    Vote for educated people like HH and RB as opposed to those without tangible classroom background for EDUCATION showed that educated Americans put men on the Moon.

  200. nO. 199 ONLY THE tONGA’S WILL WALK WITH THEIR HEADS UP HIGH IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF hh WINNING. wHY DID pATRICK cHISANGA AND sAKWIBA sIKOTA LEAVE upnd AND HH? aNY OBJECTIVE PERSON WOULD NOT ALLOW SOMEONE LIKE HH TO TAKE OVER POWER WHEN HE DOES NOT SHOW A TRUE ZAMBIAN OUTLOOK. HE STILL HAS A LOT TO DO TO DISTANCE HIMSELF FROM THE TRIBAL BED HE LAID FOR HIMSELF. ZAMBIANS BEWARE AND DO NOT FORGET EASILY. A JUST ZAMBIA DOES NOT MEAN IT “MUST BE A TONGA”. SORT THAT ISSUE OUT FIRST BEFORE YOU TRY TO BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA.

  201. #200,Sakwiba was bitter after losing an election he surely must have won had he been clean over his CV both in the UPND and in his outside UPND dealings.Patrick Chisanga failed to cope with the new management HH took to the UPND which was different from the Mazoka Anderson philosophy – of Mazoka providing everything while the rest of the members enjoyed free Mazoka money. HH said that all members of the UPND had to participate inproviding monies for the party because UPND was not HH’s institution/party but a party of everyone who was directly in the UPND leadership and the UPND cadre who was in the grassroot. If you doubt this credible answer, ask Patrick Chisanga on to highligh it on TV

  202. HH does not entertain laziness of his crew and the general membership of the UPND. This is the same plan – hard, hard work and input from everybody for the good of our Nation – he (HH) wants to let Zambians move with as a forward nation in our quest for a great Zambia.

  203. Was Lubinda bitter? Was Late Henry Mtonga bitter? Was Bob Sichinga bitter? were the 27 constituencies who abondoned UPND in its fall from 49 MPs to 22 bitter? No, they saw that UPND had become and will remain a tribal party. By the way what ealings of Chisanga and Sikota were not clean? I bet you cannot even name one! The truth is that Mazoka managed the party so that it had 49 MPs and HH reduced it to less than half the party it was. If you want to talk of dirty dealings please explain HH’s unethical behaviour of becoming Chairman of the Sun Hotel Board after sitting accross negotiation table with them suppossedly for the interests of Zambians-instead he negotiated chairmanship for himself!

  204. 201 and 202 run out of steam? Gone to try and research? The rap sheet on HH needs no research and was once reproduced in a Post newspaper editorial and HH and UPND never dared to even try to answer it.

  206. #203/4,sorry I am busy working on my school issues so I just pop by to see what ill-motivated people on HH’s success are writing.Please re-read my posting on #201 and re-correct your assertions on Chisanga in your “By the way what ealings of Chisanga and Sikota were not clean?I bet you cannot even name one!” I wrote about Sakwiba’s dealings and not Chisanga please. Chisanga, if you had an English challenge on what I wrote #203, could not cope with the new way of UPND management by HH.That is how he left. Chisanga did not want to go into INSULTS about HH and thus he (Chisanga) left quietly without immediately joining any other political Party like your Lubindas and Sikota who r struggling

  207. …struggling politically. And this is why PF and Lubinda through dictatorial tendencies of hon Sata want HH and HH’s UPND to finance their campaign this year.

    HH and UPND are way to clever to deal with broke characters. On your assertions about HH, ask GRZ to provide proof and then arrest HH if HH has done anything bad in his dealings on privatisation that was carried out collectively under the MMD GOVERNMENT not not individually by HH.

  208. Sata,COBRA what is it that u can do for Zambia that u didnt do in the 27 yrs with Dr Kaunda, 10 yrs with Dr Chiluba and those few weeks/months with the late Dr Mwanawasa?Look at yo age and health.Give chance to others.U WILL NEVER B ZAMBIA PRESIDENT.

  209. 207 Hitlers Nazis said they should not individually be held responsible for what they did because they were doing it on behalf of the Third Reich; is that the best defence you can come up with for HH’s collaboration in the scandalous privatisation?

  210. 206 you still have not told us what dirty deals Sikota engaged in. Let us not make sweeping generalised statements that we can not back up. As for Patrick Chisanga, he did not leave quietly but confirmed that there was bad leadership style and tribalism in the UPND under HH. revisit his press conference. As for Lubinda struggling? That is rich considering that Lubinda belongs to a party with nearly double the number of MPs that the shrinking UPND managed to get. Anyone objective can tell that the party struggling is the one which in the last election lost more than fifty percent of their seats.

  211. Ba Sata i did not know that you are a coward. You mean you cant challenge MMD on your own. Show the people of Zambia how poisonous the cobra is. Manta mudala.

  212. Before we Vote we should understanding the Current operations of the Mines. We need very good political drive to put the mines in the right position. where on earth has the foreign companies have more supply Business than locals. Can same one Explain why a Local Company is subjected to competiting with foreign supplies. The foreign Supply is requisted quote to FOB while the Local Is requested to CIF the lowest between the two gets Business. None of our Politicians checks. Ba CB come 30 October 2008 if we dont vote wisely we keep on following the Indians like small purps

  213. Do anyone undestand that KCM and MCM pays Duty, Transport and VAT on behalf of Foreign Supplies who Competites with with locals. The Locals are not given this incentives. This has to do with Leadership. If Levy tool this issue seriusly CB would haven his strong hold. Some can thing Suppliers are Few. The issue is the mines does not employ the all Copperbelt it is the Suppliers to mines who have more employees put together

  214. Nevers Mumba when he was Vice President started to work on this and managed to have MCM to give more business to the Locals. But cheaper Got a brown evelope from Germstone mine when he was on a similar mission. This is what has costed Mumba his chance to become president. Keep that brown Evelope very safe it mighty help you pay for your House. This is what corruption does the Brown evelope was better than serving the people. Lets see if it will vote you

  215. Im in support of Sata but if HH want my VOTE he should seriously Look at the Supply problems with the Mines and assure the suppliers how he going to address the same. Wake up HH iam giving you the crew as to why levy was not popular here. You get my vote and that of my Workers

  216. Getlemen the Arabs have Oil Zambia we have Copper lets put our resourses to good use for all. We shouldnt do it the Mugabe way lets work with the current investors but on good common goal. They should have respect for the Local Suppliers and the Gorvement Should protect both. Ceating Local Suppliers should punished if ther supply Air.

  219. Zambian politics get exciting at times. The problem is that politicians forget easily their sentiments. As such I strongly feel that if Zambians are not careful, it is not the right the man for the job that will succeed the late Levy. Sata may not be educated but is a seasone politicia, HH educated but not yet ripe for politics, Brig Gen has the desired integrity yet he keeps to himself. and RB may have both yet with alot of UNIP mentality, who can forget how even the first Republican President was manipulated by his own lieutenats. Then who is the best man for PLOT?. Get you answer on 30th October when all will be said and done.

  220. Zambian politics get exciting at times. The problem is that politicians forget easily their sentiments. As such I strongly feel that if Zambians are not careful, it is not the right the man for the job that will succeed the late Levy. Sata may not be educated but is a seasone politicia, HH educated but not yet ripe for politics, Brig Gen has the desired integrity yet he keeps to himself. and RB may have both yet with alot of UNIP mentality, who can forget how even the first Republican President was manipulated by his own lieutenats. Then who is the best man for PLOT?. Get your answer on 30th October when all will be said and done.

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