Luapula Province Minister, Boniface Kawimbe has said today Zambia is among the 50 least developed countries out of the 350 nations worldwide. Dr Kawimbe further said that during the early 1970s Zambia had a lot of foreign reserves, second only to those of South Africa, in the Sub-Sahara region. He said to reverse the situation, leaders and all the people in the nation should reflect on why the country lost its riches to wallow in rags.
“This country was one of the richest in the world, with the second most largest foreign reserves only second to South Africa in the Sub-Saharan region. Now we are among the 50 least developed out of the 350 countries in the world,” Dr Kawimbe said.
He further said that to speed-up development in Zambia, people should be asking themselves about what must have gone wrong for the country to lose its wealth many years after attaining its political independence.
He said the education system in the country should be re-designed to churn out graduates capable of contributing to wealth creation.
Dr. Kawimbe further said that the conditions set to access the Citizen Economic Empowerment Fund are too rigid. Dr.Kawimbe has proposed a formulation of conditions suiting applicants according to their economic status.
The Minister said conditions for accessing the Citizens Economic Empowerment Fund were too rigid for poor people, adding that only the elite in Lusaka and and other big towns would benefit from it.
He said that people of all walks of life including ordinary civil servants should be able to access it.
He was speaking after a conducted tour of the newly constructed Hillside Lodge owned by a local businessman in Samfya, Dr.Kawimbe said the existing Development Agency in Zambia takes care of the welfare of foreign investors only.
He said a similar institution should be set up to support the welfare of local investors. The minister was impressed by the high standards set by the new lodge which has 12 self-contained rooms, constructed at a total cost of K1.3 billion.
Dr. Kawimbe urged the owner of the lodge, Bernard Musangulule, to construct a presidential suite for President Rupiah Banda to use when he goes to officially commission the K4.8 billion district hospital due for completion in April this year.
The Provincial Minister said he would approach relevant authorities to extend incentives to the lodge.
He urged the people of Samfya to emulate Mr. Musangulule by investing in the tourism industry and not to wait for foreign investors to establish lodges in the area.
ENDS/IMD/PK/ZANIS
Lets do something abt this
#1 Good question. You answer it yourself
What happened was
1. Socialism
2. DEBT
3. KK using the reserves to fund his freedom movement wars instead of investing in infrastructure.
It is because of You recycled Politicians
#1 sorry. I meant the Dr should give us the answer.
I call upon all metal products of all generations to donate some funds towards this.
He said the school had sunk five boreholes but did not have hand pumps and other accessories for the boreholes to become operational.
Kakumbi said Chizongwe Technical High School was not connected to Eastern Water and Sewerage Company.
He also said the school was in need of funds to rehabilitate the school hall, which he said was in a dilapidated state.
Kakumbi further urged former pupils to help address the problems the school was facing.
“We need help from well-wishers, former Chizongwe pupils and the government to urgently address these problems,” Kakumbi said.
it’s because of plunderers
thats why there is need to just change the whole system coz its just the same people that keep benefiting from everything.the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer and yet this is a christian nation where love is supposed to be in full measure.
As long as we keep blaming Kaunda,politicians etc We remove ourselves from the problem and therefore can not offer solutions.You are a Zambian,how have YOU contributed to Zambias poverty and how are you contributing to the solution now.I personally have contributed to Zambias poverty by not being physically present in Zambia to offer my services after passing through the good ecucation system.Yes I am part of the brain drain.Solution: I am going to open businesses in Zambia after I make enough capital where I am 2.I have signed the passport petition as its a way us the Creme de la creme of Zambia can have an impact on useless policies being made in our beautiful country.
Because Zambians we are good at talking only with no deeds. Our leaders if they are not talking, then they are stealing, how do you expect a Country to develop?
# 2.Its ok Sister.
Thats why we need a change in Government and fresh political leaders with fresh ideas.Its too much of the same pipo and its like they have ran out of ideas.
Its becuase you (politicians) have been stealing. You poliyicians have failed the people of Zambia. How can you say what went wrong when you know the reason. Corruption and plunder of national resources.
The call to local investors is a welcome move, but then the minister and his fellow leaders need to put in place mechanisms to allow ‘less connected’ entrepreneurs to access the funds. These should not be allocated to any Jim and Jack! Secondly why should the proprietor of the Lodge build a Presidential suite for Rupiah Banda? I suggest that the President sleeps in an ordinary room. This way he will appreciate better the local conditions and what the average Zambian experiences! :)>-
Dr Cholera shud be bold enough and say during the Kaunda era not early 1970’s. When this Dr. joined the political bus it was MMD that he subscribed to. Can he tell us what the MMD have done and look at his condemnation of UNIP & Cholera being 1 have continued to haunt him. If I where him I would just shut up, my God these MMD goons are shameless. Look at the front page of today’s picture, would even the Chef at Statehouse allow his child to learn in such a structure? At times you wonder which schools Prof. Lungwanga and Dr.Kawimbe went to?
it’s focus dear bloggers that we lack as a nation. I mean not long ago we had started building on our reserves with late President Mwanawasa S.C, simply because he was focussed and guided by principal. Today nobody even talks about the reserves and when politicians saw the money,they increased their perks. did you see Hon Mulongoti yestd calling for harmonisation of emoluments for the three wings of govt, executive, legislature and judiciary? the man was complaining that the judiciary are well paid compared to the other two wings, how can you build reserves like that, if we can take care of the leadership vacuum, we will get somewhere
#9. bob doe
I think I have fallen in love with you (no homo):x
What you have said is very true. Even I want to start a business in Zambia and I am just waiting to get organized and make arrangements with my JAPANESE business partner BiggieJim.
It will take a while but I will get to doing it. Zambians should not complain. One of the worlds most developed country (The USA) is one of the most corrupt with banks, pharmaceutical comp., and many giant corporations controlling what congress does since these companies fund their campaigns.
Kawimbe should just shut up.
He should be the last person to ask this question.
Kawimbewas in Chiluba’s government when all the stealing started
And even after he left government, his record has been that of boot-licking the people in power – the same corrupt people who are responsible for the question he is asking today. What cheek!
If Kawimbe was principled he would not be where he is today – but he has been a puppet pleading for sympathy – and that is how he got that job. In this country, no principled person ever gets appointed by the president. This is a fact. Kawimbe is educated for nothing.
cont from #16]
(rough statistic) there are about 5000+ Zambians in the diaspora. If they all started businesses in Zambia employing about 200 people each. This would provide employment to about 1000000 people.
There are many people who have made it even in the rough environment that the govt has provided. How did they do it??
Think about it.
On the other note, I still blame KK for the attitude that most zambians have ( govt must provide everything e.g GOVT MUST START A NATIONAL AIRLINE)
Things started going wrong from the Kaunda regime; remember… from queing for bath soap, sugar, bread,blankets,saladi who could forget about lack of cocacola and Fanta. An apple looked like
manna from heaven, only apamwamba’s devoured it.I still remember my kid nappies stained as had to que for washing powder,
Though I can sadly say they are still quyeing up for bread at Shoprite even today.., is it the mentality factor???
ASK KAUNDA!!! HE SHOULD HAVE BETTER ANSWERS FOR THIS QUESTION!!!!!!!!! ~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(~X(@-)@-)@-)
it is exactly because of :-@ like this
#3, you are spot on! and that was because Zambia was ruled by form 2s (KK and FTJ) for 37 years after independence who had no forsight, what did you expect? Our neighbours and Africa were still going to be independent by now even if we did not dump our wealthy on them. Thats why I wounder when some people who are supposed to be analytical, they support another standard 4 or 6 !
and yes ask KK
Morning Cutey/Wifey….#18 gopd posting. Do you have a company in Zambia?
Dr here is what happened.
1.KK started well and absolute power corrupted him.
2.Kafupi took over and dragged the country back to the stone age.
3.LPM attempted to recover some of the looted assets but he somehow managed to get lost on his way from the stone age.
4.Nyama soya has no clue on which road to take to Zambia…
Dr. kawimbe knows how good it is to be in government and to swindle pipo – that is he actively participated in reducing Zambia to be among the least developed. this country has resources – the problem we have is mismanagement, greedy and selfishness.
Doesnt help just condemning ba kawimbe naimwe provide solutions kaili
Each one of us has a responsibility to bear when it comes to Zambias failure. We need a paradigm shift in our mentality. A major overhaul.
I have found that Zambians are intellectuals, boasting some of the best brains in the region, however we are not action oriented. We can come up with ideas, brilliant ones and go perfectly through all the brainstorming and planning stages but fail at the implementation stage. I don’t know whether we suffer from some form of inertia or whether we just cannot formulate an action plan. But like Nike we need people who will get up and just do it. just do what needs to be done. contd.
Am surprised that the good doctor is asking this question. Apart from being an inellectual Dr. Kawimbe is “priveleged” to be there at Zambia’s indepence and also as a minster in the 2nd Republic. Just as a humble contribution: Our 1st President made mistakes by trying to use the wealth the Chinese and Russians were doing and as a result consumption out weighed wealth creation. What he forgot is that the 2 countries were run in a brutal way where parastatal chiefs who failed to deliver were executed in public as a deterent to would be embzellers etc. All the schemes KK created failed, and would be funded for salaries from monies the mines generated.Let anyone challenge this with facts.
#16
You have also fallen in love pa bogg… (just joking)
I know you are one of the LT. Award winner…
Congrats.. =d>=d>
contd from above…
The paradigm shift mentioned above needs to happen in our individual minds to start off with. At the end of day evaluate your day and ask yourself what productive venture did I engage in today. If the answer is nothing you are a waste of space. If you spent the whole day in meetings, discussing or assessing you are a waste of space.
This is the 21st century we need to come out of our insakas, Nthembas Shebeens where we ‘discuss issues’ and become men and women of action.
Kaunda invested in massive infrastructure, health facilities and education that were out of reach for Africans. Kawimbe obtained free education! Later, Chiluba, Kawimbe and the likes reversed care-for the-common-man and plundered every piece of the available ngwee.
To ask what went wrong is a wrong question at this stage of Zambia,s history. The right questions are what can we do to endeger production, diversification of the economy, reinvestment of the profits into the economy, job creations, commitment to work by civil servants and workers in private industry, embracing democratic values, strengthen civil society to ensure that politicians are accountable and transparent. SC
Bob Doe & free market zed needs people who think like you.free market where have u been u are one of my fav bloggers.If we all could think of job creation instead of pointing fingers and not offering solutions zambia would be a better country today.
:o; Doc, stop asking silly questions when you & your friends in FJTs Govt were a big part of the problem! KK started well by heavily investing copper $ into important national infrastructure & quality manpower development, which most prominent Zambians incl LPM, benefitted from. However, KK’s nationalization was a wrong move & encouraged complacency (instead of encouraging public/private partnerships with emphasis on Zambian participation and competent mgt).
Problem mwe bena Zed mufwaya ukukwelela ichimuti kumabula, start with something small and let it grow. Ask Bill Gates or Sir Branson, they will tell you. Thats why ine nalitampa akantembapa Zed run by my mate Mungeli.
3N o I dont have a company in Zambia .Wish I could have one. Just managed to finish ine house for my mum in the vilage.. and so many villagers were employed., felt good qnd empowered.
Cont. They will use excuses such as the UDI, being land locked etc. But there have been countries which have become even richer after coming from a war situation. Land locked? How did the wealth we inherited come about? We have always been land locked and yet the colonists who ruled us managed to creat wealth. Schools- they we built scools thats where the money went. Not entirely because even in colonial days schools were built in all townships eg on CB. Kitwe(Chamboli,Wusakile etc had their own schools)Chingola(Nchanga, Mudzabwera,Maiteneke, all had a school each)The list is endless. Main reason there were too many people on payroll including Unip employees.
I agree with #18
#11. We need fresh political leaders, from top to bottom. You and I can make this change by voting for the right people. Why cant we see this? Why cant Zambians come to their senses and vote for new leaders? Why should we always be forced to look at the same old, ugly, etc faces. The Electoral Commission should also come to their senses. They have put us in all these problems. I am so upset
Haach The Third lets see if we can make that change in 2011.
#33Sheik Banda. Sorry KK did not invest in the mines. Get your history right. He found all the mines and closed Kansanshi, Bwana Mkubwa, Chambishi and part of Chibuluma. All these have been reopenned. However I do agree with you MMD made the situation worse
#24 u have hit the nail on the head.
i think kawimbe was thinking aloud, does he really mean to get opinions from us?
This guys a clown! wasnt he there during the Chiluba “kafupi/dribler/thief” Years? This guy must go back to bed he is still sleeping. maybe he is related to Nyama Soma. Both are still in a deep slumber. As a blogger has advised above we must provide solutions but will Nyama Soma listen? He was given a proposal by HH and he hasnt done anything to suggest he will use it or at least some of its recommendations.
We were busy helping our neighbors to get independence hence the effect.Don’t even condem Chiluba on this one.Where was Chiluba in 1970s.
Alot went wrong Dr Kawimbe. Lack of fiscal displine and generally seriousness by the people including you who have had a chance to serve in government. A complete over-haul is mostly needed at the moment. The late LPM started and he tried!!
As had been said by some bloggers, Dr Kawimbe you must be knowing the way Zambia should go!!!
Iyoo kwena DeJa Vu wasopolola, true to your name. Most Zedians forget easily. We should know where we are coming from. Thats why uyu DR. something naluba, he should be able to answe his own question if he is a Dr. worth his salt.
After all this, what will Zambians do about it?……they will continue talking :-@:-@:-@ just talking……am out of here….let me get a bit more productive….:-h:-h
Luapula Province Minister, Boniface Kawimbe you even dare to ask this question?
Look at Copper for instance!! We have enough other raw material but can not make finished products out of it!
We end up exporting it at Low prices and import it back at higher prices!! Do not even ask this question because even grade 1 Kids knosw it all!!
CREATE INDUSTRIES IN ZAMBIA THAT WILL MAKE THE RAW MATERIALS THAT THIS BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY PRODUCES BRING IN MORE PROFITS.
This is just sweet talk ba Minister !! Look at the 2009 Budget and tell me if there is anything close to what I mention!! ZERO!!
and the Saga continues….
Let me get myself a Cup of
~o)
But I go, #40 “Dede Lya Mwana” I like your name….I understand its meaning very well….reminded me of the Smoky Hangaala days.
Bufore I go, #40 “Dede Lya Mwana” I like your name….I understand its meaning very well….reminded me of the Smoky Hangaala days.
He knows!
I am one of the zambians who will admit that what went wrong is that, our father and mothers allowed one called Kaunda to rule for too long until it was a case of when the mouse becomes too familiar he even comes out to eat in the full view of the owner of the house. Then we the current generation have allowed MMD to go and on even when we are all too sure their tank is on empty. We are waiting for them just to pack on their own and it shall not happen. Kawimbe’s ideas and mind, just like those of MMD, are outdated over tried and fit for the trash cans. We need fresh blood, but the unfortunate thing is that the fresh blood is also just too money hungry. Look at how Chiluba was allowed to rob
I have very strong words for this doctor but LT will certainly ban my usre ID,therefore, i just beg him to shut up for he is irritating our intelligence.
If the minister wants to know what happened to the country’s wealth, he needs to look no further than the Development Agreements for the mines, or the bloat of government (29 or so ministries, lots of unnecessary positions). Or a blatant boondoggle like the NCC.
Tax the heck out of the mines, and put the money in agriculture and infrastructure. It will massively reduce unemployment, secure the food supply and increase commerce. And don’t get foreign companies to do it, but build up domestic capacity.
Please ignore #35,
I was disturbed by you know who.
******#23, I dont have a company in Zambia and I wish I could have one. I have just managed to buid a house in Zambia for my mum. I employed so many Zambians and I felt empowered.
I have also left a big investment whereas it is at foundation level in one of the small provincial cities in Zedi, at least I left a foundatin for the wall fence dug up. thats for the kids when they grow up and want to visit Zedi with their wives and hubbies… Not so bad for a girl from rugs to riches??????? :-?:-?:-?:-?
Eeh The Dr Has courage!!!
Dr Kawimbe,if there is a person capable of anwering that question it is you and FTJ especially,you people managed to destroy what KK had managed to build in 27years just in less than 10years!!! i wonder how you people continue appearing on our political menu!!!
Doing business in Zambia gentle men is not easy because the policies just dont favour a zambian to progress,they would rather support a foreigner than a local,ask the Dr what efforts has he ever made to give advantages to zambians even when he was a minister???
Dr that is really being cruel and very cheek of you to ask such!!!
Now we have another stone age leader in the office,what do you expect?
And lastly, the principle to economic growth is re-investment – of profits and costs. Keep as much of the value chain of any product local, and you maximize the impact on job creation and wealth retention – and that is true locally and nationally. No ‘free markets’ through which capital can flee the economy. Protect local producers with tariffs.
We only have about 195 countries in the world NOT 350 as published.
#16 free-market captalist thanks.There are very few intellectuals like you and #32 Voice of reason out there.
Indeed Kaunda messed up now our generation have to fix the mess and stop pointing fingers.Crying over spilt milk won’t help.I met someone who showed me a picture of Kitwe taken in 1965.I wanted to weep the place was stunning.The roads were beautiful I couln’t believe Kitwe once looked like that.I saw another picture of independnce day celebrations in Oct 1966,peoples faces looked so hopeful so optimistic of the future.Our parents dreams were shattered,this is not the Zambia they hoped for. Lets fix that dream ladies and gentlemen and restore hope and optimism in Zambia.
#11 & 38 Sister. It won’t be easy to change Zambia it is already corrupt .In 1991 we tried bring fresh politician with fresh ideas see where we are. I don’t believe in being young will serve Zambia look at Chiluba he was 48 years & see what he as done. Let stop waiting for the governvement to do something for us instead let’s do something for the government.
Sister #38 who is the best Leader if I may ask.
I do not think there are 350 countries in the world! According to Matt Rosenberg (2008), the correct figure is around 195 countries; see URL link below:
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The publication uses “nation” and “country” interchangeably which is justified because “nation” is commonly used in informal discourse as a synonym for “state” or “country”. Therefore, using this definition Matt Rosenberg’s figure is more accurate than the one published above.
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Just a few days ago some gallant men and womenhad their seemingly well to do company supposedly going bust. It is typical of the younger generation, rise fast and fall quickly syndrome. I am 40 years old and most of my contemporaries do not want to perservere in any business like i have done but just want quick bucks either from deals or political oofice. Gone are the days of hard working, patriotic and persevering zambians.
So we need a complete ovehaul and hold all ourselves either in politics, business and academics accountable for our action. Let us learn to be truthful in all we do and desire.
What went wrong? You and your cabal of hyenas masquerading as leaders went wrong Dr Kawimbe. You are posing silly questions like you are a new face on the Zambian political scene. Let people like HH and others ask such questions not you. Please give us a break.
# 18, I hope and trust you will have the patience that’s required to start up a business in Zambia. I really appreciate your ideas but what we need is to root out this archaic system starting from the top. With this system in place then corruption will become a statute in Zambia. One thing I have come to believe is that indigenous Zambians are the ones who will develop this country because it’s their God given land. These Stone Age politicians should just accept failure and assume advisory roles where necessary otherwise we will talk till eternity.
GAZZIE SAYS, ‘MUZUHILE BLOGGERS.’
Now if this is the KAWIMBE’s idea of a joke, its not FUNNY!
And for as long as we recycle unprogressive and unproductive ministers like him, we shall continue dreaming about our ‘wealth’
Let him tell us why we shud have 66 cabintet ministers. And can he justify why we should pay him and scrap burseries for poor Hone students.
#38,Sister.
The problem is who is the right ‘fresh’ political leader to vote for??
Miyanda is chickening out day in day out…
All the previous four standing had nothing credible to offer(new ones probably are cowards to come forward).
people just voted for ‘peace in Zedi’
We are waiting for the right one to come……
The way we are waiting for Jesus to come back to earth.
Mark my words.. :-?:-?:-?:-?
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How many students have graduated after sexual favours and money from their rich parent is used to bribe one or two Lecturers for academic marks. How many businesses that are doing dirty things to undercut other and we sit the fence watching like the effects won’t get to us finally. How many politicians are lying to the teeth just to win favours from the appointing authorities and just to get that vote and assume office. It is all happening on our time as we watch. We are a generation grounded in lies after lies. But the problem with lying is that it is difficult to remember the lies all the time. Truth does not require remembering anyting, but telling it as it happened.
Please people stop attacking Kawimbe.First step in fixing a problem is acknowledging it.How many leaders have you heard stand up and acknowledge a problem.so what if he was there in Chilubas time.Get over it lets work now.If you are so smart offer solutions.A villager in Shangombo has more influence than you coz you the learned just sit at your keyboards blogging instead of finding ways and means to influence the government.Why are you suprised at the daft decisions made by “less intelligent” leaders.Its our fault for siting back! Zambians are docile.If you lived in Kaundas time you wouldn’t even have been able to fight for independence.Kaunda gave you freedom and you sat back waiting for
Dr Kawimbe and team scrub partisanship out of your rotten minds first then you will see Zambia thriving. For one to thrive in business in Zambia today, they have to be politically correct. Hard work and patriotism are alien to the Zambian business dictionary. No wonder government would rather entrust serious national assets into the hands of poorly skilled but politically correct cadres..what’s the result when such is done? failure.
What is Kawimbwe saying?
I thought he knows all the answers!!!! We are not kids!
continued ….Kaunda gave you freedom and you sat back waiting for him to deliver prosperity in your laps.He was a freedom fighter not an economist or entrepreneur.He did his part now do yours.By the way anyone know what Kaundas diet consists of?He is the most healthy looking Zambian for his age.
Umugazebo welcome where have you been? Luzuhile
I cant resist this subject. Imagine KK played midfield and created a pass (wealth destruction)to FTj. FTJ beats the goalie(economy..)Welee down goes our wealth..plundered
Where was this Dr fimofimo (forgot the name) Why asking today after 38years.Was he in the foreign mission and failed to come back. It is him who made Citizens Economic Empowerment Fund to be difficult to access. He as befitted too much and built Hill Side Lodge now that’s when he remember us poor citizen. Dr Go back and make some solutions and come back. These people they like Yapping to much :-@
Ture to the point. Mnaje imwe ba Kawimbe, Dokota, what are you going to do about this CEEC ‘unreachable’, rigid conditions for the poor us to access it??????????? True, only the bolokoz out there ku kalale will continue swimming in the monies; no wanda Petterssen an yimba “Anyandule”!!! Govt. common revise the CEEC /CEEF conditions; allow the poor common man access to the cash so as to improve ubwikashi. Time to act is now, if you wait too long, mukapulikilwa muli, mwamoneni, ninshi abantu na zanda.
#68, Mukelabai, You talk a lot of sense, infact your reasoning sums up everything. LT, close this topic, Muke has hit the nail on top of its head and bus, kwasila. Just to sum it up but borrowing from Muke. “THE SO CALLED LEADERS ESPECIALLY IN GOVT AND GOVT. INSTITUTIONS MUST REMOVE NONSENSE FROM THEIR HEADS AND BEGIN TO REWARD MERIT RATHER THAN POLITICAL, TRIBAL AND THAT TYPE OF PATRONAGE. THE PEOPLE INCHARGE EITHER ROSE THROUGH PATRONAGE OR THEY ARE CLOSE TRIBAL MATES AND SO ON, THATS WHY WE ARE POOR NOW”
Zambia amongst 50 of Least Developed Countries out of 350 Nations Globally? Wow! Dr Cholera has his statistics wrong…. He has invented new Countries fellow bloggers! What I do know for a fact is that there are 206 Nations and territories on Earth, unless the learned Doctor is living on a different planet. Out of the 206 Nations and territories, 193 are members of the United Nations…
With leaders like these, We now know why Zambia is wallowing in perpetual poverty.
Politicians in Zed should start doing their Job instead of giving us Homework!! This Muppert Show should Stop :-c
You Kawimbe stop lip Service :-@
GAZZIE is hurt. This guy is insulting Gazzie’s intellect.
I have a suggestion for RB … trim your cabinet, we dont need a gender ministry, for what? Gender issues can be handled by another related ministry.
REMEMBER HOW WE MADE SO MUCH NOISE ABOUT TARINO, TIP TOP ETC. HAD WE BEEN A BIT PATIENT PERHAPS THE QUALITY OF THOSE DRINKS WOULD HAVE IMPROVED WITH TIME. YEARS LATER THE FOREIGNERS DEVELOPED PINEAPPLE FANTA, WHICH TO BE FAIR WAS NOT EVEN BETTER IN QUALITY THAN OUR OWN TIP TOP, AND EVERYBODY WENT CRAZY FOR THE DRINK.
KAUNDA WANTED TO EMPOWER ZAMBIANS BUT WE DECIDED TO VOTE FOR CHILUBA WHO ATTRACTED THE WRONG FOREIGN INVESTORS.
WE ARE ALL TO BLAME IN THE END. LETS BE PROUD OF OUR OWN AND NOT GLORIFY ANYTHING FOREIGN. LETS WAKE UP GUYS.
LT why blocking my comments?
Imwe blogosphere you really live in an imaginary world. A fellow asks an important question you go off tangent and insult him in typical Fred Mmembe style. Problem is you read too much The Post and get confused in your thinking and lose out on reality. There is nothing wrong with Kawimbe asking questions he is a Zambian citizen like you with all the accomapnying rights. Offer solutions for once instead of scouring dictionaries for the worst demeaning word English can offer. 🙁
It is rather a waste of time for us to concentrate on what went wrong because we know what went wrong for Zed to become poor. The question should be, ‘how do we move from here (poverty-stricken state) where we are now to some place better? It all begins with leadership! If we continue having selfish leaders in power I can assure you that we shall be stuck in this situation for ever. Dr. Kawimbe was not born yesterday. He was there from the start. So what has he got to tell us? We don’t want bamuselela kwakaba, please!
#81 J Savimbi – the problem we have is Kawimbe, who was initially one of FJTs boys, is asking such a silly question when the answers are quite clear! KK spent alot on infrastructure & social services (+ve) but also on liberating our neighbours (-ve), some of whom want to ‘roast’ us whenever we go job hunting in their lands. Thereafter, the incompetence & kleptocracy of FJT & friends finished off whatever remained.
bob doe & Free-market capitlst you have very good ideas of coming back home to invest but the problem back home is our system is still not very freindly for running business. The taxes are still very high, corruption is still on a higher side and poverty people have got no money. We first have to clean up our government and bring new young people with brilliant ideas for things to improve. With the polititians we have in government nothing much will change I bet you.
#63. Legend of the Falls
And what would you have me do. Bang my head everyday and cry about how govt needs credible leaders. No way. My friend let me tell you something. The South African govt has done everything it can to sort of level the playing field. Unfortunately the policies are hostile to the SA white population. Many of them left but many of them are going back.
When they go back what do they do?? The don’t apply for jobs like Wesley. They start their own businesses and they are very successful (even with policies that don’t favor them). Why cant Zambians in the diaspora do the same.
Crying about how we need a credible leader is not going to put people in employment.
#71. Pumpy am around in the background somewhere ……. been keeping a low profile bcoz my pals like Matworld,Baby C,Chale and Ba Moze hav made it impossible for me to be number 1 (one).
Its a conspiracy!
#79. AFRICART
Please dont go there. KK created one of the biggest companies in sub saharan Africa called FINDECO and made himself chairman of the company. KK was president and part of his policies was that govt owns 51% of all businesses in the country. Meaning 51% of the wealth of your business goes into KK’s back pocket.
He made the illusion of empowering Zambians when in fact he was empowering himself. How is plunging the country into debt and at the mercy of international bankers who force structural adjustment programs empowerment??
Instead of investing in agriculture and info-technology, he was busy freedom fighting. The problem started with KK.
Kawimbe ulibe data.
Anyone who needs help how to become a member of post zambia newspaper website without paying money?I’ve been reading news for free at post zambia website without payin money for a year now.Fred Mmeende should be punished.
#84. INSAKA
And how do you plan to clean up govt and what have you done to clean it up??
You guys are talking about things that are unlikely to happen. But self empowerment is likely to happen.
When you hit a brick wall, drive around it. Crying out loud about a brick wall and how somebody should tear it down is not going to solve the problem. Just drive around it.
What went wrong with zed?
Zambia got the IMF lans and signed conditions in the 60’s of which they had to pay back.
for kawimbe, you provoked us!!!. Now to the subject, who is going to make 360Degrees zambia turn-around??? is it zambians in Diaspora? KK?FTJ? foriegn invetors or ………!!!
This nation i can assure you is sinking if don’t do something about the situattion. we have enough educated zambians but not dedicated. we have enough christians but not faithful both to the nation and to GOD.
7 reasons why Zambia is in its current position
1.A first socialist president
2.Too much reliance on copper
3.Lavish beginnings
4.id cuts
5.A thieving (current)government
6.Rampant Borrowings
7.
:-@ rural dwellers who depend on handouts!
Dr kawimbe should have given us a blanket of what he thinks went wrong since he was part of the system.suffice to say that sound micro and macro policies with reduced graft in both public and private institutions and people centred development plan will put us somewhere.vision 2030 started by late LPM(MHSRIP)should also help in rekindling our lost glory.zambia is presently not poor but a victim of poor leadership.
So if Kawimbe and his generation are wrong, what are we doing right ourselves?
Instead of trying to invest back home we have pipo scaring other Zambians by claiming the climate is not conducive. How do u account for the fact that every other house in Kalundu and Olympia is now a lodge build and run by Zambians? There is clearly somewhere we can start from. Like someone said before: “Don’t attempt to climb a try from the leaves” it wont work.
we are a spoilt generation and even if we took over govt today, very little would change for the better.
Zedians have a way of blaming others be it colonists, settlers, Kaunda, Chiluba etc. The big question is what are you gonna do about it so that your children’s children live a better life? Zed was ruled by Britain from 1923 to 1964 (39 years) and has been independent for 44 years, where would you place the blame?
#81 Jonas M Savimbi. I really dont understand you. If anything Dr Kawimbi is being very rude to even ask us that question. He had the privilege of serving in the, is it the second or third, republic. He was part and parcel of the plunderers. He contributed to the mess. Nobody wants to listen to the cries of the people. Have you, Jonas M Savimbi, ever offered solutions and if you have, tell us if anyone heard you.
After getting the loan from IMF the following catch-words were introduced.
1.belt tightening to be done
2.economical reforms
3.pain to be endured
4.light at the end of the tunnel
5.level playing field
6.restructuring
7.layoffs
8.downsizing
9.redundancies
10.retrechment
11.structural readjustment
12.freemarket reforms
#59 and #65 I really cant think of anyone right now, who can take this country to the next level. Its just too, too bad. Lets start thinking of someone now. It is our duty as Zambians
Loss of direction. That’s what happened. Kaunda was financing liberation guerrila wars in southern Africa. Chiluba was busy taking stuff into his pocket. Mwanawasa may he rest easy was building his family empire dubbed the family tree. Bwezani is simply whinning like a toddler describing how difficult his tenure appears to be. He appears to be groppling in the dark and calling for sympathy that old man from Chiparamba. Zambians in general were passive and indifferent to what was obtaining. This is what happened and is happening!
Duty first….. Yeah. Iam on agent Don Self! Hebraon you said…ok just Gaza. Well let’s kick em terrorists ass!!!
# 90 Free-Market-Capitalist, you seems to be missing my point. Driving around the wall won’t solve anything. Self Empowerment is the way forward but you need a back up from a free willing system. It’s good you are there re-capitalising and what will you do when you come back with all the bucks and find the current system has no land for you to invest in because it was all dubiously given away to foreigners? I have denied myself vast opportunities to go abroad but to stick around and with the little fight and empower more than 30 locals and 15 Zimbabweans. A credible Leader is the solution that is if we don’t have a watertight Constitution.
hey guys, how come there are 350 countries? i thought there were about just 200. where are the others coming from?
help me guys, abali na ka knowledge reply. 😕
why is kawimbe asking that question when he knows the the answer to the question everything went wrong and if we are to get back from where we were we have to start afresh get rid of old politicians bring in fresh minds to move this country forward otherwise zambia will become poor,poorer, poorest in the world. while plunderers will be enjoying themselves. Am off for lunch enjoy your lunches bloggers.
#90 Free-Market C – the effort we have been making to clean up gvt is to change government which is becoming very impossible. One can have a good business plan but to borrow money from the bank you have to pay very high interest rate and if you are not in employment its a non starter. You guys out there think we not doing our best. People have resorted to investing in property now. Once you get yr package all one think of is building a house and wait for rental to buy your bag of mealie meal.
#101. Legend of the Falls
My question is where are you going to get a credible leader. Already #99. SISTER doesn’t even know where to start. How long are you going to wait until this credible leader comes.
I might as well take my chances and bid for the land that will be given away to foreign investors and who knows. Besides, there is plenty of land in Zambia. I will probably find another spot on which to conduct my business.
Necessity is the mother of all innovation. If there is a will, there is a way. I am sorry. I am tired of waiting for a so called credible leader. SATA is an opportunist, HH doesn’t know what he is doing in politics, Miyanda is nowhere to be seen.
cont from #105]
I am better off voting for MMD until Jesus comes because it seems this credible leader will never show up.
Might as well make the best of the situation and see how I can make my business work in the current govt. If other people have made it, why cant I??
IF LIFE GIVES YOU LEMONS, MAKE LEMONADE
Free market capitalist
May i please ask you a question….. :-w
#90 to continue with your metaphor or analogy, we can also drive through the brick wall to break it down. We may ruin our vehicle but pace the way for the people coming after us. In so saying, maybe we need some drastic measures that may hurt now but be worthwhile sacrifices for our nations future. This may involve things like massive trim of cabinet size and serious separation of powers by limitig ministers to not sit in parliarment to push their ineffective policies.
Well, if stining thieves like you were not stealing operating beds from UTH when you were a minister in Chiluba’s rotten government, we would be somewhere in the top 50 today. So please Katangese, just shut up!
#104. INSAKA
Tell me, what do you think is the role of govt.
Also if you find this credible candidate (wherever he is), what do you expect him to do??
108. Baby C
Ask away
We know what went wrong, 1-WRONG PRESIDENT, KK SHOULD HAVE ONLY RULED UP TO 1974. 2 WRONG CABINET, NO EDUCATION 3. WRONG BUDGET YEAR AFTER YEAR. ****SIMON KAPWEPWE HAD GOOD PLANS FOR ZED, THAT’S WHY KK KILLED HIM. KK SCARED BARK JERK. What are you going to say now ??????????/
106 and 107
It seems what you are saying is that HH and Sata are not credible but MMD is. Assuming MMD is credible, then Kawimbe from MMD is right to question as to what went wrong? Did i get you correct my fellow blogger. I need your guidance.
#109. rage against the mac
Yes but has anyone done this??
Who is going to do this??
Why hasn’t it be done??
What are you doing about it??
Is everyone okay? Good keep on contributing guys,Iam really enjoying your comments.Iam thinking of writing book using your comments,hope you dont mind.
Allow me to give you a hand I think you deserve it. =d>=d>=d>=d>=d>=d>=d>=d>=d>
But please dont call me childsh, [-o< So in short,who is responsible for Zambia's current problems? Is it the Goverment, IMF or us, the Citizens??????
what right does this kawimbe have to warrant him asking such questions?
we are where we are today because of hypocritical politicians like him…all we need is fresh blood, not the recycled material….its been the same families in influencial positions:musokotwanes,Kapwewes,winas,nkumbulas and so many others. democracy is about sharing resources, now with the same families geting better jobs and schools, you think we can progress?
NO, NO, NO…ABASH KAWIMBE AND ALL THE RECYCLED MATRIAL IN MMD!!!!!!
#114. UMWINA KALALE
WOW, I never said that. That is a strawman.
I was saying that to mean that there are no credible alternatives and so out of lost hope, I am better off voting for MMD for the sake of it because no good alternative is available. Please quote me on where I said MMD is credible??
yo, this minister is a lier, he claims that there are 350 countries.
I wouldnt expect much from such a leader, yet most mmd ministers.
ONE MORE THING, ZAMBIA WAS NOT ONE OF THE RICHEST COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD- THAT IS TRUE LIES.
We were rich yes, but not one of the richest. [-(
FMC
But please dont call me childsh, [-o< So in short,who is responsible for Zambia’s current problems? Is it the Goverment, IMF or us, the Citizens???
#106. Free-Market-Capitlst, while I generally like your comments, you are too deceptive. It seems ba MMD bakudyesa iwe coz at the end of your “good” analysis, you lead us to MMD gosh!. If you keep changing leaders, they will learn to be accountable. Keeping MMD in the pretext that there are no alternatives is mayopic (sp) thinking.
#117. Baby C
The problem started with KK. KK was busy freedom fighting and using a socialist economic model. The problem with KK’s socialist economic model was it was too extreme. He pretty much subsidized almost everything.
Giving coupons for food, free books, pencils, etc. All the industries in that era where started by govt. From textiles to Tarino beverages. Zambians became spoiled and thought govt is supposed to provide everything.
This is why today, people are calling on govt to start a national airline when there is no need for this. ZAMBEZI AIRLINES has announced that it is expanding. That is a zambian business working and expanding in a zambian environment. [tbc
Imwe stop blaming the IMF!! You have not done your homework!!
Please just answer Kawimbe’s question.. he has to report to RB!!
Come on people Ba Kawimbe depends on your Brains on this one. He is reading or his secretary is going to make a printout!! Then you will just here Press Conference tomorrow!!
Typical!! ~X(
Baby C
It takes at times ten to tango.
Leaders come from amongst us, called zambians, and what we have are results of a generation of irresponsible leadership. So ultimately its us to blame. You just have to look at the way villagers and marketeers dance for the leaders to know what we are in for my fellow blogger.
Oh! I forgot How is everyone?
Baby c How are you?
G Baby,How is your day today?
Ba Moze,Zoe and Lusaka
missing in action.
Jerks
Mulishani?
Gazzie
How are you luzuhile
:-j
Engine Boloko
How is it?
Sharp Shooter.
How is life.
cont from #123]
Another Zambian business that has made it in the Zambian environment is MUVI TV. It offers better entertainment than a govt owned company (ZNBC).
People have been spoiled and this is why they will keep on searching for a credible candidate. A credible candidate is a person to them who is supposed to start businesses for them while they sit at home and govt starts a cadibury plant for them. We must learn that govt wont change unless we change.
If we empower ourselves, we have a better chance of changing the political scene because we will make up a large a percentage of govt revenue through taxes. The reason foreign investors get all these perks is because they pay [tbc
Matworld-Nice guy!
Walaba Jamaco!! Awe Iwe … Ine nomba very Low!! :((
Free-Market-Capitalist, its out of desparation to vote for MMD, I must say. Too true about the Lemonade from a Lemon. Who knows maybe one day you will be our credible leader. Like # 104 Insaka has said we are trying our best on the ground here despite the rotten system. I took a walk in one of Livingstone’s Township and found almost every household with a Kantemba selling what the neighbour has. I challenged some MP’s a few days ago why Zamefa should not be ticking now when the Copper prices have fallen? I was speaking Russian to them because if our Leadership had the will Zambian would have been Industrialised heavily.
122
Thank you for your blog and the sooner MMD cadres and zambians realise that the better. Up around the number 60’s in my blog i said leaders are too aware of how docile we are and hence taking us for granted from KK through Chiluba via Levy now with Nyamasoya.
cont from #127]
the bulk of the taxes.
Now I know it is easier said than done but if we don’t try, we’ll never know.
So the problem started with govt, but we are the problem currently. WHY, because of our attitudes.
126. Matworld-Nice guy! am cool my man….just sneaking in to cast a glance at the comments and question one or two bloggers then I put a screen saver and do some work…..keep it nice my man….you rock on this blog.
#122. Engine Bbuloko
I like your concern but answer me this.
Between SATA and RB who would you have me choose??
Jamaco.
How is your day?
FMC.
How are you?
Kasai Kanko,
How are you?
UMWINA KALALE
Kulishani kukalale uko?
All RSA Bloggers keep it up.
Sony,NIne Chale,Chewe Fine,Rashid,Man Kunde and many others,Where are you Guys?
Cutey,Sarah,Supergal,
Greetings to you all.
~X(
#133 HH or Magande or Fundanga or Criticles Mwansa (ZRA chief)
133
Sata would have been much better my dear. Just look at how Banda is at sea with the current scenario. Its a pity that RB has not used his time out of govt to even muster one of the areas where we are always going wrong. The best person to vote at times is one who has been out and seen it from outside. RB even at VP did not show that he was once out of power. Look at how Levy developed into a good leader after being out. RB is but a total loss to the cause of this country. Imagine a president with power and crying about how white are monopolising business. Where does it leave you and me my dear.
The rest.
Greetings to you all mwishina lyaba Yesu
I love you all.
Matworld-Nice guy!
Its like you dont have any comment,so you better stay away,leave the site for the Great thinkers.
See you guys.Always remember t love yourselves. :-j:-j:-j
# 87.KAUNDA HAD A VISION THAT ONE DAY THERE WOULD BE FREE TRADE BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA AND ZAMBIA FOR EXAMPLE AND HENCE HIS DEVOTION TO THE LIBERATION CAUSE.
# YOU ARE, MORE EMPHASIS SHOULD HAVE PRHAPS BEEN PLACED ON IFO TECHNOLOGY AND AGRICULTURE BUT HE DIDNT THEY PUT COPPER EXPORTATION AS THEIR PRIORITY AND WHEN HE PRICES SLUMPT IN THE 70’S THEY HAD NO PLAN.
#CHILUBA ENCOURAGED FOREIGN INVESTMENT IN FORM OF RETAILERS AND GENERAL TRADERS TO COME TO ZAMBIA AND THAT DID NOT DO US ANY GOOD EITHER. WE NEEDED MANUFACTURERS ETC.
#119. Free market Capitalist.
The Govt is there to mobilise the masses toward wealth creation by formulating suitable policies.
To achieve this, you need a firm but not rigid costitutional structure. Its this framework that will produce a “credible leader”
However Zed has neither FRAMEWORK nor leader willing to produce one and therefore the search continues……….
Fellow Zambians. Already we have read from some contributions from above what went really wrong. Are we going to ask the same questions about development in Zambia in 2020? Surely from the way lusaka is developing, a question will be asked as to what went wrong in our planing. Dr. Kawinbe please assit as to plan the way forward. I wonder what other towns are looking like if Lusaka can be so dirty with urgly structures and unplanned extensions with no roads to newly UNdeveloped residential areas. Is there really no one at the councils to see this? Is there? really? sure?
#137….you last sentence “Imagine a president with power and crying about how white are monopolising business. Where does it leave you and me my dear.” also had me woundering. RB does not even know that he is the president and has power to change things. Thats the problem when you give power to people who are used to be subodinates. He is still waiting for instruction…..hell knows from where coz he is the presido.
134
Kukalale kuno naikosa sana mune. Thanks for keeping the blog warm my dear. At least we are better than some of our leaders (MMD and opposition included) who are not sharing their brains with us. This blog is changing some of our outlook on life and situations in general. Keep it up my dear. Thank you.
# 87
KAUNDA = ACCIDENTAL DAMAGE (to our resources)
CHILUBA = MALICIOUS DAMAGE (” ” ” )
WHO WHO IS BETTER
Kawimbe is not being sincere. To ask those questions today when in 1991 he was singing we shall change Zambia is hypocritical. The debts were all forgiven and the investment from the debt relief must be their task now. He cannot be blaming KK today when he himself got free education. He wants the education system restructured towards wealth creation, what he himself done to create jobs? And he wants the owner of the lodge to construct a presidential suite for RB, is that room going to be economically viable in Luapula Province? How many presidents does he see going there year long? The president should sleep in one of the rooms or book the whole lodge if he wants.Kawimbe is not a businessman
Free-Market C – this problem started with KK. Zambians got used with the government doing everything for them. Thoses days I can remember people working for GRZ and Parastatal enjoyed free accommodation, free transport, free lunch, aducation allowance for children and now to change from that culture has been very difficult. We have to start learning to stand on our own two feet like our freinds in Nigeria but first the government has to set a good enviornment for business in Zambia. Where is Zambian Airways?
@137 are you sure about that? If we want to lynch Kawimbe here, clearly then that disqualifies your MAN becoz he has served in all republics.
Gazzie advises a cautious pawn push.
I am very impressed with contributions about this topic. Fellow Zambians please keep it up. I am just wondering what Zambia would have been if these people with such brilliant contributions like the ones above were in government and let to run affairs. Zambia would been South Africa if not better.
We have got brains, but we have been let down by some politicians. Lets try to make a go at politics and change things.
the biggest problem in zambia is priority rating among the politicians. they cant tell which is of high importance, urgent,a want, necessity, a need or something with other alternatives cheaper but eficient and effective. they bring in personal matters at the xpense of developmnt. for example we may have 16 parlimaentary elections in few mnths from now. on average a parliamenatary election gobbles k3 billion to k 4billion. and general elections shall be held in 2011, where we will spend more billions within 2 years. the mane we wiil spend can assist in kanyama to improve sanitation and so we 4get about CHOLERA.
#144.
I may add thus:
RB = INTENTIONAL BANDAGE ON OUR PROGRESS!
#139. AFRICART
“KAUNDA HAD A VISION THAT ONE DAY THERE WOULD BE FREE TRADE BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA AND ZAMBIA FOR EXAMPLE AND HENCE HIS DEVOTION TO THE LIBERATION CAUSE.”
That was a poor decision on KK’s part. Why pick SA when the DRC got independence way before even ZAMBIA. The DRC was getting lots of money from its mineral wealth however what it lacked was basic industrial and agricultural infrastructure. In short, had KK invested in that sector in the Zambian economy and simply dumped the goods in the DRC market, Zambia’s industrial base stood to benefit and would have been ready to take on other markets at the height of the DRC civil wars of the 90’s. DRC was key.
Kawimbe inspite of being one of the top surgeons failed lamentably to run his clinic. His mountain of debt forced him to run away and I wonder what principles our country has to appoint a man who ran away from debt – practically bankrupt. Shouldn’t this be investigated? As for those of you talking about Sata, please spare our breathes, this man cannot be a solution. He too ignorant about the world order and a complete misfit in 21st century politics. The way forward is to harmonise our current resources and mange them prudently. More emphasis on utilisation of raw materials and less traditional exports but value added exports. That is our way forward. And of course punish plunderers early
#140. UMUGAZEBO and FAMILY
“The Govt is there to mobilise the masses toward wealth creation by formulating suitable policies.”
Answer me this. The Zambian population of Asian decent. Same policies but they have made it in Zambia’s business environment. WHY???
#144. AFRICART
By looking at my username, you obviously know who I pick.
It is like asking, “CAPITALISM” or “SOCIALISM” ???
#137. UMWINA KALALE
If that is who you pick then you should not criticize Kawimbe.
I AM OFF.
SEE YOU TOMORROW. :d/
=;Mr Kawimbe,you have been in these position for same time ,why are you asking questions which you know the Ans.find out from your friend.Ba KK should have more ans to this topic.**==:-??
We all know what wrong. I urge fellow zambians not to cry over spilt milk and stop witch hunting. Lets stand up and work together to reverse the trend. We need young vibrant Zambians to join forces and rescue mother Zed for the sake of our future generation. Its never too late, we can rise from ashes and rebuild Zed and restore its diginity. All we need to do is get rid of these old, tired recycled politician.
Its the animal in our political leaders whom we entrust with big position of the country thinking they would work to benefit all the people in our nation.
These Leaders have become so selfish that their only interest is to enrich themselves & not to work for the good of the people who put them in power.
They even fail to put up stiff measure which can protect their country men & Women who are exploited by some fake investors who come into the country all in the name of investors(infestors).
May God hear our prayers
[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o<[-o< Leaders you are not put in those positions to enrich yourselves at the expense of a poor br or sister. May God deal with You all....
kawimbe is lost,this is not time to start finger pointing as to who or where but to solve the current economic situation.unless out of these questions the current situation would be solved.the problem with most of our leaders is that they do not understand what is happening worldwide.they are supposed to ask questions relating to sorting out the current problems and not just dream.twakana ba DOC,TELL US WHAT YOU THINK IS THE PROBABLE SOLUTION TO THE CURRENT SITUATION,NOT SEEKING ANSWERS THAT YOU EVEN WONT HELP NOW.YOU ARE WASTING OUR TIME.
Reasons for loss of wealth in Zambia
1. Low price of copper
2. High cost of oil
3. Leadership that did not understand economics
4. Overzealous leaders who spent billions trying to liberate other africans
5. Selfish leaders (there even now) whose aim is to make themselves rich
6. Educating citizens to be workers only and not enterpreneurs. This results in brainy people being employees while those with businesses are mostly academic failures who can not develop businesses further
7. Failure to copy from others what makes them successful
8. Lack of savings habit. Most people consume most if not all money saying it is not enough
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Do you know why i pick Sata? Its the same reasons you have given in your blog. Kawimbe is back to politics for survival, while on the other hand Sata has survived without being in power for some time now. If one can manage themselves, to me that is the starting point for one to be in office. Look at how Miyanda is finished now. Nevers Mumba, Kawimbe and RB are good examples of politicians who can not look after themselves out of office, so they are not fit for national coffers. You have to manage yourself first, before you can manage others is the simple concept i believe in.
The yester years had their own issues which are irrelevant to todays circumstances. Yet the decisions of our yesterday leaders have effects on todays occurences. Not that we should overlook the yesterday and blame the political players of yesteryears for all that is occuring today.Think of it, world war 2 devastated whole economies in europe. They yet recovered from all that devastation. We have less problems than them and we cant continue blaming our yesterday leaders. It is but an excuse to whine and justify your unwillingness to change for the better.
This tendency to blame the past is just a mindset.
Q ‘Why are you not ploughing the field?’
ANS ‘My hoe broke last year’!!!???
#25 BEN
Sometimes I wonder whether the problem in Zambia is mismanagement or just lack of ability to manage.
Do some of our leaders have ability, really. If we vote for people without ability, then we reap what we sow. They cant do beyond their ability.
May be we need to reassess the criteria by which we chose our leaders.
Kawimbe knows what has gone wrong with the Zambia we dearly love, how it has fallen from grace. Wasnt he in Chiluba’s government at one time, his alias was ‘Dr Cholera’. Thats wats happened to Zed, too much chorela it purged all its potency and is ranked among the least developed in the world.
Q ‘Why are you not in employment?’
ANS’ I failed my Grade 12 and I could not go to college’???!!#*
And he is talking about 20 years ago.
Ask not what the country can do for you but what you can do for your country. The problem is that we have not yet graduated in our mindset about the very basic thing about national pride.
163 and 164
You are right to the core.
We keep allowing riggers to rig election when a revolution can do. Why is it that over the death of one boy Greeks can rise and make the authorities know that they can do better than kill people they have to protect.
Here riggers are even proud to show their faces and get away with it. Yes look to the past and vow never to see the same thing again. If the ugly past rears its ugly face and you go on, then something is wrong with you. As Zambians we have something wrong with us.
Everyone is looking for employment. Everyone wants to wear a Jacket and suit, everyone is busy looking for a saviour outside himself. I am sick of the whining mentality.
AHHH Zambians we r champions of speaking maaaa.
stop complaining about the past lets just learn from it and see what we can correct time if we keep pointing fingers it willl just be for eternity bcoz so many wrong things have been done what we should do is try to correct them lets not be afraid to take up new ventures its a risk but taking chances is part of life we like things that r safe but we should step out of our comfort zone don’t think government is going to develop Zambia alone, don’t expect to be employed be an employer. We just like to spectate n marvel about how others have developed their countries learn from them (outside political arena)
Ha ha ha! clap for yourself Kawimbe, i’ve just arranged a meeting for you with VJ so that you two can discuss see how best you can minipulate your info when telling the nation how you participated in plundering the national resources. :d/:-w:)>-
When we go to other countries we want to become part of that country n we can drop our citizenship swiftly because we admire what other people have made for themselves.We resign ourselves to the fact that our country will never change of course if every jelita,Mulenga,Sarah n Roberts decides to not take part do u think the nshima will cook itself? We go other places to learn from them, but we can’t even ‘steal’ ideas n improve them. Its because we want to plant a mango tree in the morning n we want to enjoy the mangoes by lunchtime. Don’t make fun or look at people who want to make a change or do something new instead support even if they fail, its not the end..
We are lazy at thinking. As a society we are not inclined to problem solving. We have no problems spending hours and days complaining, as it does not require effort. Problem-solving requires energy, effort and conscience and thoughtful analysis.
Life and the world are full of challenges. Unless we orient ourselves and our education system towards solving whatever challenge we face, we will continue lagging behind. Educated or not.
BIGGER PROBLEM THAN GOVERNMENT IS THE ATTITUDE OF ZAMBIANS ESPECIALLY THE ‘EDUCATED’ ONES PEOPLE WHO MADE DIFFERENCE WERE NOT PART OF THEIR GOVTS BUT INSTEAD THEY INFLUENCED THEIR GOVERNMENTS. SO IF YOU THINK ONLY GOVERNMENT CAN MAKE A CHANGE THEN WE R NO BETTER THAN THE MAN IN SHANGOMBO WAITING FOR THE NEXT HANDOUT
#165 UK-Zed we dont choose our leaders they are imposed on us. I mean we are not all that dull to chose such alibre of leaders to lead us. There is leadership crisis here in ZED starting form the most top.
I made an attemp to run a business in Zed with the help of those I knew very well. Hu! Its a shame. They all ate up the capital and later started asking for me to help them, two years later. Thats a tip of the ice berg of how so many Zambians can be a let down. The way we think – myopic, no long term plans with commitments. Even politicians think the same way – just eat,drink and be fat. Eat more than the other!
We can do certain things in Zambia. 1. If everyone can be commited to corruption fight. 2.Limiting the number of years that a person can serve in parliament and ministerial posts. New ones can be groomed and take over from the old guards. The old ones can play advisory role.
There are so many people doing fine in Zambia who nonetheless are making using their God given gifts. Whatever incentives the come their way in terms of SERVICE is a bonus to them.
What went wrong? The answer is very simple , KK and his surrogates didnot have rite minds to handle what they had enherited.
If you go back in history KK had made economic reforms to nationalise all companies(this was called Zambianization).
The idea was for KK and his Govt to have total control of everything as a result of independence.
That was wrong, Govt is not suppose to run businesses but rather just provide a level playing field.
Things started going wrong from that time and the successors to KK just took over from where he had left and may be just made them better or worse depending on what angle u sitting.
# 102 TOKO….. Read my comments on # 76…..
On “Dr. Kawimbe urged the owner of the lodge, Bernard Musangulule, to construct a presidential suite for President Rupiah Banda to use when he goes to officially commission the K4.8 billion district hospital due for completion in April this year,”I would like to emulate #13 Britz by re-echoing that let the President RB Banda sleep in the available rooms. The mentality of building a speacial presidential suite for a President means that the businessman will be making a serious loss whenever President isnt occupying that place as he is working in Lusaka.
Dr Kawimbe dont mislead private investors to behaviour like they are GRZ institution.Your advice is a direct answer to your BIG querry.
Everything lamentably went wrong after we put RB in power. The man is totally confused and lost! Moreover he doesnt even know how he got to plot one. He was merely pushed by few selfish individuals who wanted their lavish style to continue.This legacy is doing us more harm than good.
Iyoo kwena lelo nilelo, Matworld, ine ndifye polopa, good to know you are good. Pali zambia tukalalandapofye, lyashi lyakwa kaleya mateyo, talipwa.
Very nice comments on this blog!! hmmm
Iam still wondering were Dr Kawimbe what has come of our Doctor to forget his misdeeds to the nation and have the audencity to ask us how they spent the money they plundered with Titus!!! and his goonies
175. Mukwa ginger brandy, while your concerns hold water, I think that the Zambian Repulican Constitution is too weak and that is why the educated failed to help people like Chiluba as any Sitting President has a lot of power to him-/her-self such that everyone around him/her fear terribly.
If you look at the former ZAF Commander General Singogo’s case where he has been jailed, but then his co-accused soldier left free as it was deemed that he was only acting under instructions, it is claer that the when the BOSS has a lot of power at his dsposal many innocent people suffer due to being weak in mind by FEAR of a person instead of GOD, the Creator.
lets stop wishful thinking and start with serious agriculture business, there is abandant market among are our neigbours
Ask KK, Betty, Chiluba and his kids!!!!
# 181, how are you? I really have enjoyed this topic, how I wish our politicians can have access to such vital info maybe maybe they could make amends otherwise our Generation if given a chance would steer this Country out of the mess.
Am off the Farm now.
one can write whole books of what went wrong and the situation would never change. what we need to ask ourselves and indeed the Dr is how do we get our economy back to those levels? part of the answer is a change of leadership. in my opinion Prof chirwa would make an ideal candidate.
well,what went wrong .1.Zambians are not partriots.we just want everything to be done by govt 4 free.2 politicians don’t love zed coz they would’ve invested in the country to provide employement to the locals.Their interest is to benefit themselves and their family.A white man whats he/she country looks better.3.most intellectuals are in despora .4 politicians don’t use our banks to keep their money.Always they keep money in foreign countries.what does it show?low iq.How many polticians in zed who have invested in da country?Only limited NO.
5.lack of industries & infrastructures.Who can invest in da country without infrustuctures.we only have 1 fedeco house 4 70years.
I would like to concur with 51. UMWINA KALALE also. Our grandfathers and parents allowed former President KD Kaunda to rule for a very long, long time.
I blame this on our failure to bring about a NOBLE ZAMBIAN REPUBLIC CONSTITUTION. We need one very agently and so far, it is only president Hakainde Hichilema who has indicated that the NCC has to be made to finish its activities in the June this year so that parliament can decide on its (NCC’s) recommendations in time for a New Constitution to be in place by 2011.
Meanwhile,we all who have some education and a little money must phone call our family and friends and/or write them letters/emails to teach them what their vote really is.
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6.corruption also is the main problem in zambia.Not only in govt but also in different societies.we need to be tuff when it comes to corruption.
7.we don’t like working.zambians are lazy people.Even in russia ,very few zambians work here.Everyones just waits 4 money from da govt even if he’she suffering.French people have jobs here.
8.relegion.most zambians think God will create them a site.Even if we see something wrong we don’t act because we think it’s God’s will.Eg regging elections by MMD.Any party will continue doing whatever they want because it knows people won’t act.This also leads to bad management where by people are led by politician who can’t offer solutions.
189. Turi greetings, you are right on “what we need to ask ourselves and indeed the Dr is how do we get our economy back to those levels?”
What we all need to look at now is not that reasons of this calamity alone, but what is before us in trying to fix the lost glory of being second to South Africa in South Africa or so.
The up-coming elections of 2011 are crucial is setting Zambia on a long road back to recovery and later economic independence. So, let us all seek to participate in getting a New Constitution and then voting for a NEW GRZ with NEW individuals at levels of President and MPs insteading of recycled politicians who have been lying to us since the colonial sturggles.
I hope all of you bloggers have signed the passport petition. Please sensitize your friends, family members and any associates about the injustices this abrupt passport change does to people who do business internationally and our beloved brothers in the diaspora. Are they telling us that we cannot travel simply Mulongoti wants money for a suit? We need to be serious and push these so-called leaders into thinking like civilised people.
Strange question to be coming from the learned Dr. Sad that it has taken him this long to realise that this is the real state of affairs.
Laast week I commented to say that our education systsem is not biased towards economic empowerment for Zambians. Not everything about KK was bad. A G9 of those days is a far better than a G12 of today, in terms of skills and other abilities. I also wonder why private schools are generally unregulated resulting in most of them operating from homes. Let’s go back to what was good first and build on that as a next step.
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9.technology.zambia is still behind in tecnology.nowdays almost everything is done using te pc.Actually,i don’t how people have copmuters back home.Maybe 0.5%.This make us behind in what’ happening aaround the world.internet can help zambians improve in terms of thinking.
10.kaunda wested money through his socialism policy and giving neighbouring countries eg zimbabwe,southafrica to get independence.He had no plans about future.He wanted to die with everything.
What I will miss about Levy is that he realised Zambia’s dire economic situation and position and set to do something about it. However, his vision was cut short. Those that claim to have carried on his vision are fast asleep, figuratively speaking, that is.
We need to go back to the basics the way Indonesia is doing it in the fight against corruption. We need to change the mindset of Zambians in the way they perceive and react to things. So this our generation cannot be changed. Let’s target our children. With the right policies and sincere committment from govt (implementors) 25 years from now, the results will start showing. Tafiisa nga meno ya mukanwa. However, we need a visionary pres.
I do agree with 175 that one of the biggest problems in Zedi is attitude and mind-set. A number of genuine Zambians who have the persona to lead and make a difference have chosen to lead quite lives rather than engage in jungle politics. Zambia was indeed one of the richest Countries on the continent at Independence. Two years ago Zambia had its’ debt written off, did they make the most of it? Zero! Again we saw Copper prices rising to highest levels on the stock market in a long time, did they make the most of it? Zero! Only the investors got the large chunk of the return copper sales cos’ Zambia only signed for a mere 1% royalty.
Why is Kawimbe talking about the past? We want future plans. We need a Zambian Obama not HH or Sata. Ha!
About UNZA. It is sad that this institution is not the centre of research and development that are the cornerstone of any university worth its salt. Theory counts for nothing if one cannot practice what they learn and read about.
Again let’s go back to what got UNZA its desirable name as one of Africa’s premier universities and build on that.
Again we need a visionary and serious leader, not those offering themselves now. We snooze, we definitely are dead and buried.
On second thoughts, Ba Kawimbe must have been reflecting on this since he disappeared from the public limelight. We need an energetic, focussed and results oriented candiadate for office of president in 2011 polls. Furthermore, when forming govt, focus must be on who can deliver results and not politics of appeasemnet. Sorry to say, but that is what we saw when Ba RB foemed his cabinet.
We also need a new constitution that limits powers of the office of president and makes them and other public officers accountable to the electorate.
Dr Kawimbe is right.All of Zambians contibuted to the poverty we have in Zambia.Look at the types of people from the oposition who want to come to power.Kaunda was even better because him went to Munali Secondary school and became a teacher.Others want to be a president of this country when they have forgoten which grade attained after leaving school.See what Mwanawasa did an intelectual changing this country despite of him being hated by tribalists from Mwatayafwa from Luba in DRC
I have been looking forward to see former UNZASU katekas share their thoughts with us on this one. Sadly all have been absorbed by govt as a way of shutting them up.
Shame on you. Where is your patriotism that you were purporting to have embraced ilyo twali bonse. Poverty is more than a sin, it is a curse!!!.
Chat with you tomorrow.
Dr. Colera chooses naivety and crap as a way out of poverty. Surely, how did we lose the money left by the colonial government in our reserve bank?
It was lack of capacity to generate more wealth in our founding fathers so that we could continue to add to the reserves. We consumed everything that was left by the colonialists and continued playing politics of poverty to no avail.
We did not stop damaging our ecomy at finishing eating everything in the reserve,but went on to damage infrastructure: Roads, Railways,Hospitals,Education systems, etc…atc. Build special bedroom for RB to enjoy?Why? Is it value adding to the business? :((:((
202. Kwena, mwasosa ifyamano.
Take careful care and let us do the needful. I have a good vision that we can achieve most of our lost foresight into real economic development by 2021.
The Constitution which some shameful characters do not want to have changed throught their selfish unjustified reasons by failing to support the NCC is what is vital to change by 2011 so that the new President of the next term of Zambian Presidential office can work under it.
The greatest problem is we have so much confidence in our politicians than technocrats in handling developmental projects.
Politicians have failed us since independence.
Ask a politician about extending Radio coverage, he will tell you that is a security risk.
Ask a technocrat will tell you that its important coz through information we can educate the masses within a shortest posible time.
Thats the deference between these two. 😕
intersting & shame
It has taken this long to realise that there is ‘ACTUALLY’ something wrong with our policies…!!! Ask KK, RB, Sata and the former UNIP Affiliates. They could help shed some light on this issue!!!
Kawimbe the jungle is better
Too many big brains here, is there a chance of forming an online political party…to help our nation develop constructively and sustainably? Look at how productive these debates are and is there any guarantee that those in Govt. or offices of leadership will pick anything from here or they will just play along until their terms cease and make a come and ask silly questions like the one under discussion. It is one thing to debate and another to do something about it. Come on y’all, lets unite and be pragmatic about this. 2009, time to act. We could be a big influence, atleast in someway!! Go on, you know you want to….!! :-w
#205 Maestro H. I think you are wrong. Its those who are in NCC who do not a complete new constitution. You see LPM realised that if the Mungomba report was adopted in full MMD ‘s chances of winning the election would much slimmer. The document has what the people of Zambia want and I see no reason why MMD want to discuss this for 4 years and spendind huge amounts of our money. Yes your UPND is partaking and lets what they will come up with. Those not at the NCC can not influence the out come therefore you shooting the wrong person
With due respect Mwanawasa tried, but he had on his side the national debt write off and also the increase on copper prices. It meant that the Country had as a result been left with some good reserve which other wise would have made part of the obligations to pay to Donors. In real terms these are the savings which the Government has failed to translate into meaningful development projects that could have propelled the Country into greater heights. It was because of this situation that the Government reduced its’ borrowings from the Commercial Banks, “Govt Bonds” and Banks now had to find new Customers “individuals”. This does not translate into a success story. On our knees in no time after
You have the answer Kawimbe.So,since you are a failure,just resign.
Let us deal with the realities of 1964 which Dr. Kawimbw seems to have forgotten:
1. Zambians had nothing in 1964. Everything was owned by \British and South African whites. When racism was prohibited at independence they packed and took the money.
2. Zambia had no educated or experienced people to help make the correct decisions.
3. Zambia had no infrastructure apart from a narrow road between Livingstone and Copperbelt.
4. We were not even a nation. We were just disparate tribal groups.
To say we Africans were rich people at independence is such a cruel lie. The kind that keeps us underdeveloped because we fail to asses the true realities we are dealing with.
What do you expect if those in power go on an orgy of stealing state funds for the purpose of buying pyjamas and underwear?
You have summed up everything so well.
Zambians should have been independent in the late 70’s. We were not ready and there was no adequate preparation to run the country, just as it can be seen even nowadays.
1) 1964 KK starts liberating other countries at our own expense, as though its not enough the Zambians start running to the same countries you helped liberate for food, accommodation and education.
2) FTJ after electing him into State House, he too starts reviling the Top State Secrets (Tunnels).
3) LPM a learned lawyer failing to give us a constitution.
4) No wonder the colonial rulers not masters didn’t allow every Mulenga and Jelita to became a registered voter.
Zambians should have been independent in the late 70’s. We were not ready and there was no adequate preparation to run the country, just as it can be seen even nowadays.
1) 1964 KK starts liberating other countries at our own expense, as though its not enough the Zambians start running to the same countries you helped liberate for food, accommodation and education.
2) FTJ after electing him into State House, he too starts reviling the Top State Secrets (Tunnels).
3) LPM a learned lawyer failing to give us a constitution.
4) No wonder the colonial rulers not masters didn’t allow every Mulenga and Jelita to became a registered voter.
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The Israelis are bombing the Palestinians and all the Jews in the world are supporting their government – right or wrong it doesnt matter.
Zambians in the diaspora never support the government elected by their people. All they do is insult their country. We have made mistakes as a country but no body can count the women driving cars in Zambia today when there wasn’t a single Zambian woman who could drive a car in 1964. There is nothing to admire about 1964. It is pure delusion by Kawimbe.
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Your Excellence President Rupiah B. Banda please can you make it mandatory that all NCC delegate should be volunteers, all should sacrifice to the betterment of mother Zambia. If you need more people, I am readily available Mr President.
Maybe this can be sorted out in the shortest time. An allowance will end up attracting more time. (More time more money). Mr President serve our cries. God Bless you Mr President.
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No. 219 NKOLE WA MAPEMBWE, You ve got a point. Do you know that if I dont respect my self no one will respect me. 😕
I am off :-h
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211 Deja Vu,while I respect your opinion, I strongly believe that anyone who wants REAL Change in 2011 MUST support the NCC. The fact that late former President LP Mwanawasa started it and frustrating it failed means we just have to get it to fruition by June this year and then make sure Parliament gets us its recommendations in the new Constitution before the 2011 elections.
There is no need to delay this NCC process as a new Constitution will probably help in reducing the powers of any incumbent President.
So, all those that were under former President Chiluba failed us by not adopting the Mung’omba review commision and others eg I think Mvhunga one.So let us not cry over spilt milk.
“Zambia is among the 50 least developed countries OUT OF 350 NATIONS IN THE WORLD”
Since when did the number of countries increase to 350? From my last count, depending on who is doing the counting and what constitutes the definition of a country, numbers varied between 192 and 195 (Worldatlas.com) where as other sources have counted all the countries in the world to be at 257. I know that this should not be the issue but really, we do need to get some of these simple facts straight before being put out there for public consideration.
#222, The Blackman’s Child, thank you for your observation. I think that is why you have a very proud name.
The point is that the very fact that no government in Zambia can count on the patriotism of Zambians abroad is a real tragedy.
The Israelis are good farmers, but they have also made grave mistakes including the socialist Kibutzm system. However this does not stop the Jews in the US from supporting them.
Zambians abroad are just a bunch of misguided and insecure people. Even philipinos are better than Zambians where patriotism is concerned. Please get your British Passports and leave us alone.
#224 continued.
So let us not cry over spilt milk. For now we have yet another good opportunity to make sure the MMD GRZ and party do not get it easy in the 2011 elections.
This is my take PERIOD. The fact the UPND is part of the NCC is not a problem at all as they are doing a noble and justified job for all Zambians.
Keep well chief!
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I AM SUPRIRSED BA MUDALA, YOU KNOW VERY WELL WHAT HAS MADE US TO BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY. LETS TAKE FOR INSTANCE THE LUANSHYA SAGA. LUANSHYA WAS SOLD FIRSTLY TO BINANI GROUP OF COMPANIES (THIEVES), THEN IT WENT INTO RECEVERSHIP WITH GRANT THORNTON, THE CEO BY THEN WAS UPND PRESIDENT HH, AND LASTLY IT WAS GIVEN TO LUANSHYA COPPER MINES PLC. THE FINANCIER SAME PERSON WHO WAS FINANCING BINANI THIEVES. THIS COMPANY HAS A CHAIN OF SHAREHOLDERS (SOME ZAMBIAN SILENT SHAREHOLDERS (POLITICIANS IN LPM’S GOVERNMENT) WHO WERE NOT EVEN ON PAPER. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MESSED UP THINGS. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WERE EATING THE PROFITS (KU MANE)WHICH WAS MENT TO BE DEPOSITED IN THE GOVERNMENT COFAS:((:((:((:((:((:((
Dr. Kawimbe is asking a question WE should be asking the 1991 government. This is very pretentious of Dr Kawimbe. Put in perspective, it’s a silly question, which is teasing Zambians. Kawimbe was there when the “Great Era of Thieving” occurred. So spare us from such banter. We are not pleased. There is nothing intelligent about a person like you Kawimbe asking that particular question. Its comparable to witnessing theft, then the next day you ask you the theft ocurred.
Point of correction 219 There were Zambian women driving cars in 1964. Economic Outlook up to early 1970s’ placed Zambia in strong position. By mid eighties 1 USD was equivalent to ZMK5 it got worse with MMD. By late 1970s’ the Country had made great strides towards Zambianisation programme, e.g. We had Zambians flying as Captains on International Commercial Flights, “Boeng 707” before most of our neighbours did. When Zimbabwe got its’ independence and Zambia Airways flew to the occassion it was such a wonder for our neighbours to see an all Zambian crew disembarking from the plane, similar situation was repeated when SA got independence. What did MMD do when they got into power?
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225. your flag Twachula Pafula, good. In fact the last time I checked Zambia was ranked about the 7th last 10 least developed countries.
While most of us concentrated on the gist if the message by Dr kawimbe, I also think that it is only fair to provide or produce the actual numbers of our position.
Being in the last 10 least developed countries is not only sad, but bad and shameful. I would almost be hiding whenever there are meeting of the WORLD Country Presidents as our position, Zambian ranking, is terrible frankly speaking looking at the natural and human resources we have. Shame indeed!
MAN, YOUR A CAMELEON. WHAT ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE? REMEMBER, YOU ARE STILL STEALING OUR TAX PAYERS MONEY.
#227, The Mungomba Draft Constitution provides in Article 123 that a Presidential candidate must have at least a Grade 12 Certificate or equivalent.
Bashi Chilufya Sata fears that this provision will be passed by the NCC or even worse raise the qualification to a degree. This is why he is not supporting the NCC. But we Zambians need a freer, and more democratic country and Mungomba is a very progressive draft those who have seen it.
228 CHATEMBA, I disagree with your assessment in “LUANSHYA WAS SOLD FIRSTLY TO BINANI GROUP OF COMPANIES (THIEVES), THEN IT WENT INTO RECEVERSHIP WITH GRANT THORNTON, THE CEO BY THEN WAS UPND PRESIDENT HH, AND LASTLY IT WAS GIVEN TO LUANSHYA COPPER MINES PLC. THE FINANCIER SAME PERSON WHO WAS FINANCING BINANI THIEVES. THIS COMPANY HAS A CHAIN OF SHAREHOLDERS (SOME ZAMBIAN SILENT SHAREHOLDERS (POLITICIANS IN LPM’S GOVERNMENT) WHO WERE NOT EVEN ON PAPER. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MESSED UP THINGS. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO WERE EATING THE PROFITS (KU MANE)WHICH WAS MENT TO BE DEPOSITED IN THE GOVERNMENT COFAS” as the only culprits are those who were in the then Chiluba GRZ….
#234 continued.
If you have evidence of your current claims, please got to the nearest police station a report on the misgivings. Or get to some court to file a legal case. Or get to the Anti-Corruption Commission and report the irregularities you my have against groups and people like “GRANT THORNTON, THE CEO BY THEN WAS UPND PRESIDENT HH”.
The only responsible entity in your cited “LUANSHYA SAGA” is the then Chiluba MMD GRZ Administration, which included characters you seem to have deliberately decided to omitt on your list above, that carried out the PRIVATISATIONS and not any individual who was not in GRZ!
233 NKOLE WA MAPEMBWE greetings, on your “#227, The Mungomba Draft Constitution provides in Article 123 that a Presidential candidate must have at least a Grade 12 Certificate or equivalent. Bashi Chilufya Sata fears that this provision will be passed by the NCC or even worse raise the qualification to a degree. This is why he is not supporting the NCC. But we Zambians need a freer, and more democratic country and Mungomba is a very progressive draft those who have seen it”, I think I have read this before.
Being a selfish Undereducate by trying to get to State on using more ignorant cadres is not good.The Undereducate can serve in various capacities where his lifestory can be appreciated.
I dont expext such a question from Dr Kawimbe.He is in a priviledged position to know why zambia is soo poor.We shouldnt cry over spilled milk.Lets just work hard as zambians.
What Dr Kawimbe should know is Zambia has economic plunderers.Financial discipline is lacking at all levels in our society.
Give us solutions not complaints.
Viva Dr. Kawimbe. To answer your question partially, what actually went wrong was Dr. Kaunda’s policies then that were aimed at liberating Southern Africa. A lot of our resources were wasted during that period.
Then came the Malawian Doctor (Chiluba)whose sole objective was to plunder our resources. And now Bwezani Kumbuyo Banda, another plunderer. Zambians, let’s be vigilant this time with Mr. Bwezani Kumbuyo Banda. He does not mean well with our resources. Copperbelt families camping in Chilenje is one example.
234 & 235; MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE, ARE YOU RELATED TO HH? BOTH MMD AND ALL THOSE WHO SHARED THE LUANSHYA CAKE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ITS COLLAPSE.
In light of my above postings, the only way to show resilience for us a Zambia is to get the Zambian Republic Constitution fixed especially by 2011 tripartite elections time.
This is my take. Please, President RB Banda and your Administration, make sure you effect the education qualifications and age-limit clause in the new Constitution as it is the only way that will give us sound leaders to carry the banner for Zambia in a real forward direction.
Mind you Mr President, your family is not only your children and their children because it will continue expanding even when you leave the Presidency. So do what is right to protect a Zambian future for your family and others of us.
234 & 235; MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE,
NO FIGURE POINTING OR NAME CALLING; WE ARE ALL TO BLAME BECAUSE WE ALLOWED THINGS TO GET OUT OF HAND.
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239. your flag CHATE, on your “MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE, ARE YOU RELATED TO HH? BOTH MMD AND ALL THOSE WHO SHARED THE LUANSHYA CAKE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ITS COLLAPSE.”
What exactly do you mean on am I related to HH? Otherwise, my attempt
#239. your flag CHATE, on your “MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE, ARE YOU RELATED TO HH? BOTH MMD AND ALL THOSE WHO SHARED THE LUANSHYA CAKE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO ITS COLLAPSE.”
What exactly do you mean on am I related to HH? Otherwise, my attempt is that I am related to HH as a Zambian Citizen – atleast because I have a GREEN NRC and he has one too. Just to add, I am also related to you if you are a Zambian Citizen!
If you need any other clarification please shout back!
MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE, I THINK YOU HAVE A PROBLEM; THERE IS NO WAY THE GOVERNMENT CAN FIX AGE LIMIT TO EDUCATION. EDUCATION HAS GOT NO END AND IT WILL CONTINUE LIKE THIS FOR AGES. MY DEAR BROTHER DO NOT
BE SELFISH, IF YOU WANT THIS COUNTRY TO DEVELOP LET THE MAJORITY ZAMBIANS GET EDUCATED THEN, THINGS WILL BE EASIER FOR US ALL.
Zambia must develop a KASH system
K = Knowledge
A = Attitude
S = Skill
H = Habits
Let the people with knowledge handle issues according to relevance.
Let the nation change its attitude towards everything, work included.
Let the nation focus on development of usable skills and reinvest in technical colleges.
Lastly, nation must change its habits. Some of these habits are politics,alcohol consumption, nepotism, and corruption.
#241 CHATE,on “MAESTRO HLEHHEHHEHHE,NO FIGURE POINTING OR NAME CALLING; WE ARE ALL TO BLAME BECAUSE WE ALLOWED THINGS TO GET OUT OF HAND.” This is better from you because “Democracy is a political system which has many different meanings and can take different forms. It is often incorrectly used as a synonym for capitalism. Fundamentally, it means a government of, by and for the people.
w w w 2 . truman. edu/ ~marc/ resources/ terms. html”
So those of us all who put up the Chiluba MMD GRZ into power to govern Zambia on our behalf are ALL to blame through the then GRZ characters that carried out the actual work and not the private companies that did their honest part of the assigned job.
It seems we ve adequately identified what went/has gone wrong in Zambia.This is a first step to problem solving.What is the way forward now.Are we going to continue talking and criticizing till kingdom come or are we going to go back home and do something about the problems our country is facing.Bringing about change does not require millions all we need to do first and foremost is to change the mind-set of Zambians.It is not an easy task but i believe that 10 people who think alike can make a difference and inspire others to do the same.
Yery interesting topic, I hope I haven’t arrived late for it…let me just read on before I join the debate.
#244 CHATEMBA, I hope the following definitions will help you: EDUCATION is:
A course of study is being undertaken involving both teaching and learning.
education. stateuniversity. com/ pages/ 1917/ Distance- Learning- in- Higher- Education. html
defines the minimum job specific knowledge and educational training necessary to perform the job
w w w. evergreen. edu/ employment/ docs/ Major% 20Compensation% 20Factors% 20Definitions% 20for %20Distinguishing% 20Pay% 20Differences% 20through %20Position% 20Evaluation. doc
Otherwise, take care and keep well.
It’s not too late to extricate ourselves from stronghold of poverty. Once our leadership clears certain obstacles ou of our way, I am convinced that we the people of Zambia can make this country a better place.
The first step, as a lot of bloggers have already observed, is a good education. Only an educated mind can face the future progressively. We have enough well educated Zambians who understand the need to map out & implement our own development strategy.
#239 bemba’s are blame its been clearly proven that these guys are thugs thiefs.
ZAMBIA is big and which tribe runs zambia? bembas and nyaja’s
u guys are to blame u are still primitive too much eattin rat tails
maybe other tribe should take over coz have totally failed to develop zambia to much talking less action
#251 I wouldn’t start that if I were you…
talk is cheap, let us all do something NOW!, to start soving this problem, E.g Start a small garden and plant chiwawa, save electricity,save food,save cash and teach children life skills. Remember, for the country to be wealthy ,its citizen must be wealthy.
350 countries? Mr Dr Boniface Kawimbe? The UN lists 180 countries. Where did you get the rest from?
Our primitivite will eat us all. We are pointing at the leadership back home as the root cause but when one reads what is posted on this blog, it seems we are really far from development, let a lone making a turn to development. Big example is #251. Whether he is joking or not, serious business calls for serious minds. His, ehh, may be not.
I’ve a suggestion bloggers!!
Why can’t govt make a site where people write ideas about developing zambia?Obama has a site where everyone registered can write him.Internet is so powerful to help our lovely nation.U can’t enjoy in a foreign land even in USA.please zambians support our country.It’s a shame zambia is not known in the world.I just hear sA,Kenya,tanz, and Ang a counrty which was just in war.what a shame!!we can’t even host africa cup having reached the final in 1994.what’s wrong with us zambians ?we have a lot of resources in zed.Tourism can do better if we advertise on CNN or BBC.But i’ve never seen an advert about zambia here in Eu-pe.How can we sell the country like that?
# 255 trust me am not joking how many bembas are in goverment today?
we always hear about honorable chanda honorable musonda honorable mwape honorable banda.
when was the last you head honorable kikahonde or honorable munalula or honorale mudenda its rare.
The whole bemba incircle of honorable thief are to blame
Really #251 is a loser!!
I’ve no words for him.Tribalism won’t help us.How can u say bembas are to blame.Does it mean u can’t support da nation so long as a country is led by a Bemba?come on guys we’re all zambians.U’ll be blamed as a zambian not a Tonga or a bemba.Wake up boy:))))) . Offer solution to our country.we need fresh blood and make zed the great central africa n country.
Well again the problem is that zambia doesn’t compete with other country e.g SA,Ang,Kenya.competition is the key to development.Look at russia always wants 2 compete with america in everything.Zambians compete themselve in terms of cellphones or tutemba.Always we have to focus how other countries are doing.
#258 let me educate u bembas are the only tribe lettin us down these guys are not industrious. all they know is filthy politics.
katele thief
chungu thief
chiluba thief
mwape thief
tell me any Tonga thief in goverment
#259 what tribe is VJ
#259 what tribe is the Princess
Its rare to find a Tonga kaponya or street kid all of them are bembas and their tribal cousin ngonis all thieves and street kid in lusaka come from bemba lands what is wrong with you guys?
how can we develop with such attitude.
u bemba’s have dissapointed me i trusted you but its really disturbing to look at how much damage you have course to the nation.
it would be better if you niggers step back and let fresh mind from other tribe run the nation by freshy mind am not saying your children am talkin about real people who know a thing or two about development not bambas
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This man was minister. He has come back to accept a s t u p i d position and he is asking why Zambia is poor. What an i**t he is!
#263 BEMBA’s are to BLAME with your above postings, I do not agree with you mostly. However, whatever tribe you are, I am very ashamed of the way you are attacking the Bembas even if most of them are culprits.
Please, you and russia-moscow, desist using the TONGA PEOPLE as your examples in your arguements, even if I know that #258. russia-moscow brought us TONGAS in your subsequent debates.
The current CSO composition of Zambians is that Bembas are at about 38%, Nyanjas 22%, Tongas 18%, Lozis 7%, etc (just from memory). So, please learn to show respect to Tongas by not bringing them in every Bemba People/Language arguements.
I hope this settles the issues of Tongas on your issues.
263. Please drop this c r a p you are talking about. It won’t help us in anyway. People like you amaze me where you get the courage to write about such. You are just letting your tribesmen down.
#263.
Aha! My father is bigger than yours stuff!
#267 3RqU what do you mean your father is a big thief? its all good i bet he is teachin you some how to steal public funds for the next generation.You are the reason why am here attcking BEMBA’s
# 267 stop showing-off you i dont care who your father is matter hes just one of them thieves. i advice you and your faggot father to stay off tax payer’s money
# 267 stop showing-off i dont care who your father is matter fact he is just one of them ANYANDULE. i advice you and your faggot father to stay off tax payer’s money work for the country not stealing from the country.
im sorry for my bad word but this is just how i feel about ANYADULE
Maybe the late Andy Mazoka had a better vision for Zambia, unfortunately negative forces kept him out. He had a lot of support from Anglo American and was so passionate about bringing real change. What Zambia needs is a dynamic leader who also has an Agenda to Promote and Market Zambia at International level. Tanzania’s new President Kikwete is doing just that; young Charismatic and been in foreign Service, whilst in Zedi we’ve gone back-wards to bring into Politics aged people only fit for, “old peoples homes” had they been in the developed world.
#267 have got families that really works hard non stop to make money but all that has been ripped off them and pay your father just for doin nothing. i really feel sorry for your father
KK’s warning about the MMD during the advent of Plural Politics was, “be careful my Country fellow-men you are voting into power wolves in sheep skin” he discribed them as belonging to 5 categories:-
1. Failed Politicians
2. Failed Business Men
3. Mandrax Dealers
4. Coup Plotters
5. Fired CEO and Senior Executives
As Country we got what we bargained for by putting such people into power and the “roller-coaster” continues until we too dizy to take it no more.
# 271 im sooo proud of the way you think just by looking at your posting i can tell you are not bemba’s you are wise.
we need people who can market and optimize Zambia to the international level not in bemba or nyanja but in english
1.Privatisation of mines chiluba
2.Street kids michael sata
3.Plunderers chungu
4.coup plot lungu
5.Minister killin each other tembo
6.Zambia airways confiticated due to misuse chiluba
all bad things are associated with bemba
Only H.H can bring Zambia to the international level Satanic and R.B both have failed.
” As Country we got what we bargained for by putting such people into power and the “roller-coaster” continues until we too dizy to take it no more. ”
Thanks to the IMF, which was pushing for ‘multi-party democracy’, just as they were in Zimbabwe. To get people in power who would not oppose the imposition of their policies, which are extremely unpopular.
#268 You obviously didn`t get the meaning of my post in #267.
I have looked at your posts up to 277. Not worth commenting.
Enjoy life. By the way I am not Bemba aha! :d
Oh , I just remembered, I think some of that wealth was used by myself when I would commandeer the Zambia Flying Doctor Aircraft to fly me around Zambia, especially to the CB to spend some nights with those lovely nurses that our colleges churn out. It was one of my best stints as Minister of Health!
” When they go back what do they do?? The don’t apply for jobs like Wesley. They start their own businesses and they are very successful (even with policies that don’t favor them). Why cant Zambians in the diaspora do the same. ”
The real question is – why aren’t Zambians in Zambia doing the same thing? Is credit available to them at low rates? Do they have security of tenure, or can any foreign investor come along and have people thrown off their land? There are millions of marketeers and subsistence farmers – they are the future of the economy. So enable them, not FDI, MFEZs, etc.
#273 But KK backed MMD in the last election. This is what I said to your friend.
“My father is bigger than yours stuff”. Amazing really.
Tongas shani ifya ku bwata bwata?? Comment on VJ…. are you so blind??? or is it that you have disowned him? How about Munkombwe, with those offloaded cows from the trains??
why is zambia poor?greed and mismanagement by those in power.a lack of initiative and intelligence to see our resources as an asset and sell them off at any given opportunity instead of developing them ourselves(MMD).sacrifing one’s own nation for the good of another(UNIP).to any righteous soul reading this:pray that God gives us some sensible leadership because with the right brains zambia can not only get back to where it was but even exceed to higher levels.our resources are just one big honeycomb waiting to be licked dry. **==**==**==
Please don’t equate selling off the mines with supporting liberation in Southern Africa. Thank you.
My response is because marketeers and subsistence farmers are MILLIONS STRONG, something foreign investrs and even Zambians in the diaspora can never lay claim to.
This is why any productive government must look to it’s own people for solutions, not hope someone from abroad will descend and ‘deliver’.
How could this ever have become government policy (ok, I know, the IMF wanted it that way, and 1/3 of the government budget comes from ‘donor aid’ instead of mine taxes).
Donya Donya
It`s not lack of intelligience. We have a lot of intelligient people in Zambia for 10-12million people (barring deaths from AIDS illnesses).
Chiluba had with him very learned and experienced people. They all turned out to be c o w s what with he himself being the chief cow!
No level of education will deliver Zambia I am afraid.
As long as those people we vote for, remain selfish, Zambia will still be the same if not worse 50 years from now. I can put my house on it mate! :d:d:d
Even the “great” LPM lost it some how.
MrK
Please don`t think every one is struggling like you. Speak for yourself.
Would you like to ‘unpack’ that statement? /:)
281 if you’ve read my postings correctly, I have provided an analysis of what went wrong and for sure mistakes were made in 1991 because masses wanted change and crafty guys took advantage of the situation. The fact that KK backed MMD in the last Election is another issue all together, he may have done so because of the candidate “RB” who was being fielded who also has been UNIP through and through among other connections they share. No wonder today we have Gypsies at State Lodge who are supposedly enroute into Diplomatic mission and Teta is surprised that they are not even MMD, but was RB MMD?
Doc is nothing but a highly accomplished,sweet talking boot licker hell bent on survival.His views remind one of a fox asking where all the chickens had gone as he stood before plundered coops.
#288
But you were talking about KK. Well you have tried to justify your statement which means we can not trust what he said when MMD were about to come into power.
Look, what has been done has been done. My fear for our country is as long we still carry on being selfish, Zambia can have Clinton, Obama, Winston Churchil and still be the same. LPM tried but bless him, he just couldn`t win.
We have let ourselves into a position where it`s hard to resist corruption. I am not a big fun of RB or his MMD. His cabinet may not be the best he is learned people in there some of whom are more learned than him. But, sorry things will be just the same another two years from now.
His cabinet may not be the best but he has!
214. NKOLE WA MAPEMBWE,
” To say we Africans were rich people at independence is such a cruel lie. The kind that keeps us underdeveloped because we fail to asses the true realities we are dealing with. ”
I completely agree, and I don’t know who is the origin of that kind of misinformation. Zambia had a population 2.5 million, not 12 million like today. Obviously, if there is no massive spending on infrastructure, or when that stops in 1991, you’re going to notice it. The country may have looked rich in pictures, but how much of the population was even allowed outside of the ‘customary areas’ – the same in the DRC, Zimbabwe and recently, South Africa, with rapid urbanisation.
214. NKOLE WA MAPEMBWE,
The real question, how to get rid of this carefully cultivated colonial hangover of looking outside the country for solutions. That is the key, because we need politicians who look at solutions which include Zambians first, not look for foreign investors or present commercial farmers as a reflex.
#266, Sarah Jones, Ulipo??
Iyi nkhani yanisekesa maningi especially ku last.. Iam still laughing now.
How r u then? (yourself?
I dont’t know were Supergal is.
#134, Matworld thanx for your greeting.. thats the way to go.. =))=))=d>
Cutey shani?
Yes, actually what went wrong is that we voted in monkeys like Kawimbe himself alias Cholera, Monkey FTJ from the Ituri forest, criminal Remmy Mushota, thieving Katele Kalumba and other thieves too numerous to mention. That is what went wrong. Can they all be tried in order to establish the truth through the courts of law? Kawimbe mudala, why pretend like you were born yesterday when you used to tell everybody that after 31/10/1991 Cholera would be athing of the past. Kawimbe, can you tell me there is no cholera in Zambia today? You are a disgrace to yourself and to your family ****** we.
Yes, the natola fye syndrome among the BEMBAS is NOT good. But some of them are quite civil and hard working. Only that they are very few compared to ther tribes such as the Tongas, the Mambwes, the Lalas, the Lambas, the Solis, the bulk of Easterners, westerners, and the North westerners. But ba bemba, yah, natola fye is a big problem. What they forget is that where ever there is a gain, there is a loss somewhere. So you get a free car, the next question you ought to ask is : who has lost it? In their case the losers have always been Zambians as they always rob GRZ and some unsuspecting friends. Bachabe!!!
3RqU we are speaking the same language but only on a different tone.i think i should have used “right people” because our politicians are so narrow minded.they may be intelligent but they put it into selfish use.they fail to see beyond thier death.planning a 100 or even 50 years ahead is alien to a zambian(and most african) leaders because all they have stuck up in thier minds is power.why do i stll say intelligence:read about the great depression or post world war 2 germany or japan and see how simple balanced policies (and not complicated unimplimentable economic theories that african goverments love)changed a country from literally being a dump to being a prosperous….
298 continued…nation.simple simple things like goverment youth round ups for building of roads and schools,jokes by the president every evening by the president to cheer the working class up and so on.it hurts me so much when i google zambia and right there on the results are fragments like”10 poorest countries in the world….aids pandemic”.i mean goodness me,can’t someone just for once have something nice to know about us than about our aids and porverty and corruption?it’s time the bells were rung and our leaders understood that zambia is ours and if they don’t rally our people and themselves even for a second to look beyond the self….
#295, Ine ndifye wino.
ala ishina lyenu ilanshupa ukulumbula ba ndume yandi imwe..
Akuti shani ukulumbula muchitundu cha bena Zedi pe ishina lyenu??
Ngafweniko..
Ala icalo ici(time zine nayi shupa).. Abanakashi pa blogg bonse nabaya mkulala elo nomba ine elyo wacha pantu nomba ni 1100hrs uluchelo .. wafya sana..
Ok nalaya mu garden kanshi njeswa chiwawa..
300, OOOPS, I meant ‘time zone”
Cutey it`s just the way it is. 3 R q U one by one!
Cutey mwalilima na cibwabwa? 😮
Please send some for me. Please!
Donya Donya.
I agree.
GIVE US DUAL CITIZENSHIPS AND AFTER WE RETIRE ,WILL COME BACK TO ZAMBIA WITH OUR RETIREMENT DOLLARS AND INVEST IN OUR MOTHERLAND.
Kawimbe is so shallow that indeed he can ask that question! He is part of the reason why Zambia is where it is now. He will be wiser to just keep quiet.
#302, Eya mukwai,
#302, pa ka garden patch.. every space available ni utilisation.
Nomba nalatuma shani??
Balamona kwatu ni ibange/ganja mu post ka!!, elo balafikosha nangula ulondolole shani..(nga niyakukanika imilandu ni worse teti ba kuumfwe)
Chabipa nga nachimituminako..
don’t worry there is always next time, and sometimes you can’t have it all. just take a visit pa Zedi or a short break and sample all your favourites…
Take care. **==
Pa#302, ati ni —Fili, Ara, Kiyu, Yu??,
Pantu na chimyipusha ati ekutila/ kupilibula ati shani muchibemba?LOL
Its this same zambian primitiveness the reason why i cannot relate to zambian people . I love zambia and it’s scenary but thats about it all. The comments on here just sadden me to think this is how some of you think. I sure hope views like this are in the minority because of most zambians think like this then I am retiring to the Bahamas with my children
It’s sad to say but we could have been far much better under colonial rule. The truth hurts but by simply gaining political independance and inheriting an economy that was not even understood by the indigenous people is the price we are paying for today. We don’t even have to look far. Zim is another good example like ourselves. They were better off with Ian than Robert. RSA, they are also simply hanging by the thread and it can tilt either way. I can go on and on but the truth is, we are not just capable of running the country. Period.
CAN I CHANGE MY ID TO ‘TONGAS ARE USELESS AND SELFISH’
chimo nokweba ati twalifwa ifwe.
Wat do u think has gone wrong yourself Mr. Minister?
How could u come back from the states where u were practicing yo profession only to be minister of Luapula leaving the family and all.
I bet u want to change the world.All the best
Lets just privatise the nation it’s like twafilwa mwe!!
We all know what happened and how wealth was handed over to western corporations. Just as we all know what did not happen – i.e. investment of mine taxes in agriculture and infrastructure.
This government needs to stop seeing the mines as a source of jobs, and start using it as a way to capitalize agriculture.
The government also needs to reduce the size of central government and expand the role of local government, with an emphasis on service delivery – hire teachers, doctors, police officers, and utilities workers, not more administrators.
They are there, and they are unemployed.
Wealth is made by all the people in the society. Let’s compare to the rich countries in the world.There is at least one thing in common, they can make more products in unit time than us, simply speaking, they are fast.
We are slow, and are used to slow life. we make less things, but demand more consuming.
some people in some area are suffering at no food, why, because last year at the plough time ,they were drinking.
Why the life in colonial time is better, because the white men are fast and good at mangement.
because you pipo u like ifibakote ifilwele ku s.africa 2b in govt.
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