The Finnish government has withheld funds meant for supporting Zambia’s forestry commission until after two issues concerning its operationalisation were ironed out.
Finnish Ambassador to Zambia, Sinikka Antila disclosed that her government was willing to provide funds to the commission but only after the current forestry law was repealed.
Ms. Antila said the current forestry law should be repealed to address the modern challenges facing the forestry sector.
She said this when she paid a courtesy call on Copperbelt province Deputy Permanent Secretary, Christopher Mutembo today.
She said the current piece of legislation has no incentive for maintenance of the forestry resource by the local people.
Ms. Antila also cited institutional reforms as one benchmark that could allow her government to support the operationalisation of the commission.
She was responding to a concern raised by Mr. Mutembo who noted that although the commission was established three years ago, it still had no financial support for it to start operating.
She revealed that her government was interested in the forestry sector and was looking for ways in which the two countries could exchange ideas on how best they could engage in activities of mutual benefit.
Ms. Antila is on the Copperbelt to prepare ground for before the Finnish Minister of Commerce and Development visits the province to meet business people and share developmental ideas.
She said the Zambia Development Agency (ZDA) would be a key player in the scheduled meetings aimed at opening up business opportunities that exist in the two countries.
She said her government was interested in timber plantations, wood processing and commercial forestry which she said were in abundance in Zambia.
And Mr. Mutembo said the Copperbelt province had vast potential for forestry development.
He said Copperbelt has abundant human resource that could work effectively in programmes of reforestation, forestry management and maintenance.
He said the province has the potential of opening up new forest plantations because the demand for timber was ever increasing.
ZANIS/CN/KSH/ENDS
LT thanks once again for giving us the best!! LT is No. l-) in News-Flow!!
Now watch how other Countries go about the money issue :d
At least something that does not involve the Chinese :d
We always talk of potential when we fail to manage it to produce results. Political language is killing us. Lets get down to work bane and speak when it is done.
LT is too fast for me tonight, I give up the race. Jamaco it’s all yours…goodnitel-)
I hope we are learning something from this. See how our friends deal with certain projects in their countries. they don’t just fund coz someone asked, they want things to be in order. Just how much have we wasted as a country on uncertain projects, and most of them offered to ‘babululu’ of politicians. Finnland that is the way to deal with us.BRAVO
5. Nine Chale alright Bro!! Gud Night. I will be await for a while.
:)>-
I meant awake in # 7!!:d
Thats smart with conditions attached. boyi Rb umfwa aba tubwekelefwe kuma chinese ayi :d
why do these characters from germany talk such nonense and not educative issues on the topic
nafwita ine lusaka times abadobo bafula.
Ah well!
Everyday we adjust our programs to satisfy our funders.are we really independent? indeed its bad to be poor.
10. mmmmh just drop your views :((:((
It’s okey FINLAND, you can keep your money. We don’t want money with funny conditions. We will only repeal the law when we see that it is retrogressive not because FINLAND wants us to. We are a sovereign nation. When are we going to govern ourselves without outside interference?
indeed its bad to be poor, i wise one day Zambia will no funds coming from outside
#10 you are right.Nine Chale and his colleague Jamaco….kaya.this chaps do they sleep? Wat are they doing in Germany? Imwe guyz think straight always…yes you can.come on.
Ms sinikka(i read sikanika at first)at least is giving a good example of how a donor country should make sure that certain standards are met before financial assistance is given out,thats lovely :d
What is actually required is the strengthening of the regulatory framwork in forestry. She quite right. people must feel to own local resources to participate in conservation…otherwise Hohohohohoho! It cut and burn, or just cut because some one else is making money out the resource in my area.
They ned to extend the concept of game-management areas for example under ZAWA.:d
16. Anonymous yes we can.
At least if you critisize then also make your point to the topic at hand. My Comment on #2 is a shorter version of #6. Abena
read carefully and acknowledge that you do not need to write a long version if you can do it in one sentence. Yes you can read. We now have 9:13pm in Germany and so when I start working tomorrow you probably be sleeping!! :d
#15 Green Passport.
I wish you could have a chance to hear what some of the tax-payers say about these donations made by their countries to poor nations. come to UK for a week! how is that?
How about ” all we do is feed those neanderthals” we are failing to serve for our children” “this governemnt must be voted out”.
Yes “isms” are not allowed anywhere in any civilized society…but people still have all these “isms” in their minds..and they burst out once in a while…especially with the credit crunch baba!
Pray hard [-o<
For as long as we are beggars, we will always be manipulated in our own land. How sad!
shame on you! you can never develop on hand outs. the country has enough resources to develop but lacks leadership.
# 22 and 23.
Well done…2 good points driven home!
The sad part about it is that the government doesn’t seem to make any meaningful effort to come up with a lasting solution to bring the beggar syndrome to an end. Look at how every year our nation budget is suplemented by foreign funds. When are we going to have a budget fully funded by our own resources? Not untill that is done, we will never develope on handouts.
I deeply feel that our leadership is full of sabots!! These guys represent a bunch of useless material. Why do they wait for foreigners to come in and tell them which resources this precious Country holds? Even when they see it, they lack funds to do it themselves. No wonder this Govt is busy calling for the Chinese, Indians, Koreans etc.
Development is far beyond reach with this mentality.
Guys am still a Virgin at 29 .And very soon i will be 30,and people who know about this have been telling me that i will cry when that day comes.And i dont know what they really mean.
#Chewe iwe!! Mwanwa?
Because its going to melt away once you go inside!
#27, where have you been all this tim?
#27 get umwinko, swat on the handle tip and let your weight down. it will be the sweetest sensation you ever have. Good luck Chewe!
Imwe Americans what is this language? :o:o:o:o
Hahahahhahahahahaha :((
#27, so how many miles you got down stairs?
Mwaon manje AChewe Fwaka-mbanje…okaleke mudala!! Ibenga ulepepa lya amba ukufulunganya!! :-w
Chewe leka ukuzetinga ba Maestro ati niba virgin. you know ba Maestro tabaumfwapo yashani.
No Comment :-t:-t:-t
And people have been saying that am not normal. I just dont know what will happen the first day.I dont even know how a lady looks like.Am just being frank guys,am so scared.
38. Chewe Should we guess who you are? 😕
No,me ever since i was born,i have never tested bear,i have never smoked and i have never seen a lady before.
#40 you are using the Internet!! You are not far from seeing a lady. The rest is your initiative. Good luck
To hell with the finish .The idea of being dictated to always is very appalling , let them keep their money .what exactly is wrong with our forest laws , just because they have interest in our timber ,to hell with there money.
Ba Chewe are u gay? you should say.
What has been helping me is,bathing with cold water and i always keep myself busy nothing else.I read alot also.
“He said Copperbelt has abundant human resource that could work effectively in programmes of reforestation, forestry management and maintenance.”
Mr Mutembo and the 17 yr old MMD GRZ, please let us avoid suggesting or supposing always, but implement things so that the Zambian Citizens and foreigners can have some confidence in you. I am tired of reading about “could” and now I to read “is” indicating that there is on-going work.
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LT 2008 Award Winner. Injanza for Zambia now in 2009 and the future.
There you go again Chewe…seeking attention. Grow the ‘f..k’ up. No body cares about your personal status i.e. sexual orientation etc. Stick to the subject at hand provided by LT. Damn!! 🙁
;))
Zedian am not seeking attention at all.You know its not easy to stay the way i have stayed myself.Am still fresh from the farm.I dont even know whatever that gay thing is all about.
Chewe sorry mwandi. I think I am a f o o l. I
okey but pa LT paliba ama characters,iyi tefyaka awe its beyond comprehension…by the way this is not the real chewe its just someone tryin to be funny or should i say bored.
These are our leaders of tomorrow!!! This explains the metal disorders that most Zambian politicians have. No wonder they run to SA for treatment. We need help
Chewe please forgive me for being a f o o l. I know you are a nice guy. Friends?
jamaco .where is matworld? is he on holiday?
Now its becoming romantic pa LT.
I suggest we put up a rehab center for our politicians. There must be something wrong with them. Why are they failing to make wise decisions?
53. Supergal I haven’t heard from him for a while now. He appears from time to time but not so often like before.
Jamaco dont say that darling.someone wrote unprintables yesterday addressing them to us,but you know me i dont respond to haters.just take care,
For the first time you have serious people showing some seriousness in real development. I just hope the Zambian Govt will embrace this idea and work with Finland. This is good as it will create more jobs in a different form of industry. Its high time our govt started to diversify not only relying on the mines when they can create more jobs using other abundant resources the country has. Wake up RB and your team! Thanks to Suomi for the interest in Zed.:)
the nordic countries always attach conditions to their funds and govt should know that by now
All those who are constantly attacking the Chinise suffer from colonial mentality which sees the British and other Western countries despite colonoalism and decades of engagement with the West which has produced nothing.
Zambians are as poor today as they were decades ago. No clean drnking water, no sanitation. The bush fora toilent is the oder of the day in the village. Cholera every rainy season !
# 58 The Jackal, I wish we had an opportunity to see the contents of this deal whatever it is. I wouldn’t be supprised if it turns out to be like deals we have done before as country which do not benefit our people. Our politicians have never negotiated anything that has seriously benefited our people.
LT, has your system crashed?
LT. are you playing games or there is something wrong with your system? WHY IS IT REJECTING MY SUBMITION?
Speaking for LT!! The Voice pls check your text and all the words therein!! Any offensive word means that the whole text is rejected. Hope this helps
Absolutely nothing offensive. I was commenting on what # 60 said.
#65. The Voice
Then I can not explain the rejection
Anybody home? Hello!
67. 3RqU you are not sleeping?
67. 3RqU gud nite :-h:-h:-h:-h:-h
CONGRATULATIONS FINLAND. THATS THE WAY TO DEAL WITH AFRICA’S CROOKED LEADERSHIP. OF COURSE YOU ARE NOT CHINESE-YOU RESPECT YOUR TAX-PAYERS.
# 65 Jamaco. I tried again. Nothing. The LT moderator knows best why he is behaving like this. I never write offensive stuff at any given forum. Goodnite!
LT. You owe me an explanation.
This approach by the Finish Government serves as a wake up call for African Countries, Zambia in particular. Like Obama said in his speech (Inauguration), ‘America is willing to help poor countries by working along side them.’ I think the Finish Government is trying to adopt the same strategy though they have done this for while now. Critical times like the current global financial fiasco implies that countries receiving financial aid/donations have to be accountable. Therefore, any form of aid from the West has to be used for the intended projects that are sustainable and valuable.:-w
a new form of colonialism. They now tell us to change our own laws.:-w
I guess thats what we get for becoming donnor dependent. :((
NKWAME KHURMA warned us.
That is why we, in Zimbabwe, understand only too well that sustainable development is not possible without agrarian reforms that acknowledges, in our case, that land comes first before all else, and that all else grows from and off it. This is the one asset that not only defines the Zimbabwean personality and demarcates sovereignty but also that has a direct bearing on the fortunes of the poor and prospects for their immediate empowerment and sustainable development. Indeed, ours is an agrarian economy, an imperative that renders the issue of access to land paramount.
#59,
I have just seen the filthy postings on RB visit Justice in RSA hosp..even men on this blogg are b….chs in his eyes..
I have hit back. kwena I wish I could paste it here,
but it is irrelevant to this topic.. Just go back and read.. Nimusoka.. …:-t:-t:-t:-t:-t
Anyone seen ‘mad dog’??(from the thread Rb Visits justice in RSA hosp??)
Iam looking for him high and low..
If anyone finds him please post him to me..
he has left his chains behind ,..he needs to be leached to his chains at all times..balamupunka kuli myotoka ka!
he has just gone loose… awe mweee! :-c:-c:-c:-c:-t:-t>-)>-)>-)>-)
# 27 Ba chewe all hope is not lost ni confidence chabe daddy ladies dont bite so just approch one with confidence and a big smile and believe me you will get a lot of entertainment like bulow jobs etc, good luck 😕
The Voice, if you cannot get information from one party to a deal, sometimes it is still possible via the other party. The Finns are good at forest management in their own national resource context, might be worth listening to their recommendations. Their publicly stated reasoning is available via:
formin. finland .fi/ public/ default. aspx?contentid= 45224& nodeid= 37952& contentlan=2
–without the spaces of course.
Rupiah visits justice Sakala
Written by Masuzyo Chakwe
PRESIDENT Rupiah Banda on Sunday visited Chief Justice Ernest Sakala and MMD parliamentary chief whip Vernon Mwaanga in South Africa where they are receiving treatment. Zambia’s High Commissioner to South Africa Leslie Mbula yesterday said President Banda, who was in that country to attend the Southern African Development Community (SADC) extraordinary summit, visited Justice Sakala and Mwaanga on Sunday and they were both doing very well. Justice Sakala was last week discharged from Milpark Hospital where he had been admitted for about two weeks after he suffered a cardio vascular disorder. Justice Sakala is due for review on Ja
on January 29, 2009. High Commissioner Mbula also disclosed that former presidential affairs minister Cecil Holmes was also in South Africa where he was being attended to by doctors. “He has been in South Africa for like a week. He is doing much better, he was even able to come and meet the President,” he said. High Commissioner Mbula said he had still not been to see science and technology minister Peter Daka who was also evacuated to Milpark Hospital for specialist treatment following a liver problem. “But I spoke to him yesterday [Sunday] and I also spoke to the people he is with. He has been attended to by the doctors and he is able to talk, walk. He is making progress,” said High Commis
Gentlemen, is this how we will be wasting money? See how many people are in South Africa for medical treatment at the expense of poor Zambians? Read #80 and #81. Shame to RB.
Antilla he “hun”!
Lo! Zimbabwean parties have reached an agreement to form a GNU. We have never doubted the ability of africans to resolve their own disputes. I salute the new american administration. we want politics of persuasion and not of coersion.
Even VJ, is in South Africa receiving treatment at the expense of poor people. Why don’t these people just die so that money is saved.
“Finland withholds forestry commission funds because of bad laws”
How bad are the forestry laws? Those of you that have read the forestry laws kindly educate us so that we can understand the reasoning of the Finnish guys.
Finland you can keep you money or bail out your neighbor – Iceland. Enuff of this carrott and stick / child and parent / student and teacher approach. We will go to China or India.
Supergal,am the real Chewe.The die hard Supporter of Sata.Am just telling you the truth guys.Because i now feel that am missing something.And am looking foward.
Donors have the right to ensure that the recipients will use the funds properly to bring about the desired goals. Why should they support a project they know will fail if the right legal framework is not put in place?
87. No pity. Bakalamba mwalanda! Africa has remained poor chifukwa bamatidyela masuku pamutu all the time.
89, Woodpecker,
What is wrong with our current forestry legal framework?
morning God’s creation.
can you also withdraw your support from the NCC. they are just a bunch of daydreamers.
Good move, let these people put their house in order first.
LT we need news not history. At phase you use to be in Phase with newspapers such that i even stoped buying, then you lagged by a day and now you are lagging by 2 days. I hope you are not slowly sayng good bye.
#14. We set up a commission on a very old piece of legislation and there idsneed to repeal it, so why not change our laws? What we have done is like putting an old engine in a new motor vehicle and still expect it to perform wonders. Besides, the Finnish are giving us free consultancy services despite the fact that they have interest in our forestly products which in one vain is good for the development commercalisation of our forestly industry. Let us not claim soverignity when we cannot profitably mannage our own forests. Engaging with the Finnish in this matter is alright as this is a proper way to go about it. We want our forest industiry to flourish but we want to operate it on old
Pipo, its only right that the Finish Government questions the accountability and consistance in the government delivering the funds that huv been given to the pipo of Zambia. Big up Finland Embbassy.
contd from #96. on old laws that to don’t support sound business managemnet. It is also in order because when you invest in any venture you should be able to see how your resources will be utilised and if the legal mechanisms don’t favour sound investments and returns then it is prudent that you amend the to suite the business climate in order for you to maximise onthe investments. Let us not say to hell with their money when we need their expertise and partnership. The best we can do is to make the necessary amendments to foster development in the forestry industry. Bravo Finland!
#42! Bare in your mind that in Zambia we have so much forest but what have we done to improve our economy with our timber? Finland has so many forests and its the biggest natural resource they have and they have improved their economy so well (using timer)that they do not beg. So do not mislead yourself that and others.
Where is my comment ba LT?
Muchinje
What laws?.The laws on trees!!=))
Finland´s economy mainly depends on the same forest issue.If the gov´t of the day has ever been serious,believe they will see to it that this gtes through.
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I enjoy reading constructive comments on this site, but at times the so called kaponyas from zambia based abroad just put me off. you can not take out bukaponya from a person. Comments on this topic from bloggers like Jamako, chewe, the voice and tontos honestly LT this is a disgrace. people dont realise that these comments if constructive can actually help some of those pipo in the GOVT to think again and do things right. If you want to tell your friend about your social problems, surely you know where to go with such issues. Finnland is just being sensible by querring the usage of their money. Ala tax ilakalipa when you check your wage slip bane. Go finnland go. LT check those blogers.
l-)**==<:-p and thats how i went%%-.........gud morning Zambia and all Zambians i mean.
Good move, Finland knows their treees
Firstly no Forestry Commission has been set up in Zambia yet. the 1999 Forestry Act has provisions for the setting up of a Forest Commission and also provides for joint forestry management programswith local people as demanded by the Finnish. Sadly this act tho passed by Parliament in 1999 is not yet law. A statutory order to make it work was not put in place. Reason being that immediately the 1999 Act becomes operational the current Forest Dept is supposed to cease and the Commission sets in but GRZ has no funds to set up a Commission. Hence to date we are still using the 1973 Forest Act that has no provisions for local participation in forest mgt.
Its a catch 22. Cos we can activate the 1999 Act and then the Finnish Govt withholds its money to set up the Commission, we therefore would not reverse and then face the difficulties of ZAWA at inception. Or alternatively the Finnish Govt should bring its money into Finance Ministry and then ask GRZ to now set up the Commission after all the money bottleneck will have been overcome.This would trigger the immediate start of the latest 1999 Forest Act and the end of the old 1973 Forestry Act (which the Finn is complaining about). I hope i have clarified.
‘Around two-thirds of Finland is covered in forest and about a tenth by water.The country spends heavily on education, training and research – investment which pays dividends by delivering one of the best-educated and trained workforces in the world.
This has been a key factor in the development of a modern, competitive economy in which a cutting-edge telecommunications sector has been added to the traditional timber and metals industries. Finland has a population of 5.3 Million people.Area: 338,145 sq km (130,559 sq miles):Zambia’s Area is: 752,614 sq km (290,586 sq miles)’.Zambia has twice the population and size of Finland.As we beg for aid lets be mindful of what our potential is.
Indeed ganjaweed
Data Ganjaweed big up and nuff respect.
#87 When did Indians and Chinese become experts in Forestry conservation? Nobody beats the Finns in forestry management and conservation. All what the Finns are asking for are laws that permit the involvement of local people in the management of forestry resources. Some of you are always quick off the mark to criticise people. I am sure you havent even got the gist of the the article. How pathetic!
#113. Like i have said already, the Law that the Finns want is already there i.e the 1999 Forest Act which themselves funded under the ZFAP process. It permits local participation. The difficult is that its not yet activated becos it calls for the establishment of the Forestry Commission onces its activated. Since GRZ has said the have had no money to set up a Commission, hence this law has remained idle while what is being used is the old Forest Act of 1973. What should come first; Activate the 1999 Act without the money to support it or let the Finns give us the money, then we activate the 1999 Act and set up the Commission.
#113. Like i have already stated above, the Law that the Finns want is already there i.e the 1999 Forest Act which themselves funded under the ZFAP process. It permits local participation in forest mgt. The difficult is that its not yet activated becos it calls for the immediate establishment of the Forestry Commission onces its activated. Since GRZ has been saying that it has no money to set up a Commission, this law has remained idle while what is being used is the old Forest Act of 1973. What should come first; Activate the 1999 Act without the money to support it or let the Finns give us the money, then we activate the 1999 Act and set up the Commission.
:-@:-@ same old crap, different day
#76, #77,
Have found what you’ve been looking for, stop looking further and enjoy your bloggs….
Bloggs as anonymous too.. very cheap crap character.
Forget about it..
funnly enough its a lady blogger filled with jelousy, very easy to tell…
Haaaaahahaaa have big laugh GALS!!!! =))=))=))=))=))=))o->o->