Vice President George Kunda says the the PF/UPND pact pose no threat to the ruling MMD as the pact comprised of two political parties whose self belief as independent entities was at the lowest ebb.
The Vice President said PF and UPND decided to merge because the two opposition political parties were weakening gradually.
He said PF/UPND pact was in disarray and bound to fail because members at the grass root were not consulted before the pact was formed.
Mr. Kunda revealed that there was a very vicious power struggle in the pact adding that both Mr. Michael Sata and Mr. Hikainde Hichilema were using each other to advance individual political ambitions.
He urged MMD members to go out there and tell the people how suspicious the PF/UPND pact was.
Mr. Kunda said the ruling MMD was the only answer to the future of the country and urged party members to recruit more members in order to win the 2011 elections.
He said MMD needed more time to complete development projects it was implementing beyond 2011 general elections.
The Vice President said the ruling party had only one formidable candidate in President Rupiah Banda who should be maintained.
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MMD is finnished, 2011 is your end.
You are right Kunda. All we have to do is bar Sata. Offer him a post and we are done. When and not if, he leaves, it will be like Nevers! Been here before. Even Chishimba who has got wings now will be lost. RB for a few more years.
Mr Vice President this is what I have just been telling some thickies on the other thread. They are two different parties. UPND has cadres who call the PF leader names like “undereducate”. Is that a thing we should be worried about? No sir. Do not worry, we are still in power in 2011. They we divide just wait.
iok kunda what has got worked up if you realy think it wont work you will keep quiite,but i think you are comenting becoz you and your peaple nkow that your time is coming to an end.good lucky anyway you will need it
Since we have only one country we can call our very own and land of our ancestors. We will fight tooth and nail to reclaim it from the teeth of this wild-beast MMD. Come 2011 we will deal with you.
It`s easy to see, it hurts to be in opposition! “I`m luvin it”.
MMD as a party should account for all the atrocities in the country, starting from Chiluba. They should be held accountable after they loose the elections in 2011. The loss of lives due to negligence, the stealing of pablic funds, We should make these people pay for what they have done to the country!. Even for blocking progression and development in the country due to allogance, stupidity and shallowness in reason. This has led to stealing of huge public funds as people have delibarately ignore to impliment financial monitoring systems. How can your junior steal 27billion and you are there as minister seated ??No-sense
Every one everywhere in earth wonders where Zambian money goes. This country has resources, good workforce yet it is almost the list in every economical measure. Zambia lugs behind in every standard of universal human declaration. Thieves have inveded the country and rooted the resources of the country. These are evil people with no hearts. It looks like satan sent them to go and hount harmless people. Ohh No, why Zambia???
The number of nurses that we have in the country is far less than 1 million. Yet, just one MP will get 240 million. This simply means that just one or two gratuities whould buy all the uniforms the nurces are tallking about. In fact about three gratuities can solve much if not all thire problems. These *****s, who tald them that this is their country. Why dont you go the clan of the thieves instead of troubling inocent people. Who does not know that you are always abusing and stealing peoples money
Kunda looks like he suffered from Kwashiorkor as a child.
What is Kwashiorkor?
2011 Prof Chirwa for Prez!
Namweleu against UPND-PF pact :
You may be right in your own ways … however, in reality you are doomed, as you seem to be following blindly. One thing that is true is that there is an unceremonious Pack-And-Leave for MMD this time. Things are more terrible than they once came to be when UNIP thought yamuyayaya! The original MMD was as a result of people standing up for change – the same cause and pact. Today’s MMD stands on stealing … stealing and nothing else but stealing.
I’m LOVING this as well…this is when CIAO’s word, like that of the many other freedom fighters, will come to live …and live to entertain every true Zambian! Look around and face the truth inside you. LOL!
No worries mate, you will (as MMD) still be remembered as the most corrupt political party of…
Mr Kunda please don’t just yap yap. KK wamuyaya, KK wamuyaya slogan for RB. We know where all this is going. The fact that you, Teta and Shikapwasa have been talking about this pact is testimony for the threat that it poses for MMD. A strong opposition is what we need at the moment and any pact be it PF/UPND or otherwise that is on your throats is a welcoming gesture. Let us say PF/UPND stay together until 2011 and they strategise their way forward, believe you me, MMD won’t go through unless you play around with votes that is if Ba VJ will be there by then,lol. Not wishing VJ anything bad, just sounded obvious. Peace
Out of all the issues that the country is facing, u choose to comment on this one. Shame on you for taking Zambians for granted!
Bakunda: “He urged MMD members to go out there and tell the people how suspicious the PF/UPND pact was.”
Market yourselves as MMD. Do NOT base it on destroying others …you people will never learn!
Yaba….this MMD is playing with people’s mind. You read the political temperature in the country. You will be consumed come 2011. If not the opposition be assured that another Solo will be there. And people will like it coz it will be the end of you selfish MMD. You thieves.
What pact? You mean the one which is name calling already? The one which has UPND cadres calling Sata names? It won`t work. I would never lose sleep over this. What makes it the more difficult is Tonga are involved. Few more years MMD. Viva the people of Zambia for giving RB another term in 2011. Viva eerrrrmmmmm yes VJ!
Nurses are back to work tomorrow. You heard it hear first. Some of you UPND thugs are calling for anachy in my country. Please leave us alone if you are not happy. RB!
this is real CRAP!!! of all the economic crises, nurses, doctors and all the problems, why be bothered whether the UPND-PF PACT is strong or weak? Pliz ba Vice address the problems the country is facing!!
Namweleu ask Kunda
MMD always claims they need mo tym for completing development progs and yet we never see thr fruits of their previous projects. THIEVES!!
#16 NAMWELEU
Do you know what a namweleu is? Its a very old rabid lion, am not surprised you have chosen that name for yourself going by your postings of late.
if the pact did not concern you then you wouldnt have made the comments you just did. since at the back of your head you think about it then obviously it is a threat.
Ba Namweleu against UPND-PF pact, just be sensible for a moment. It’s not the matter of cadre-hear-say. We are dealing with life and death in here. Nurses are going back, ala nika silly chidunune the government officials are talking about that nurses have gone back. They know they haven’t gone back and come tomorrow, hospitals will remain unattended. Of course no one wants hospitals without hard working nurses. OK let the nurses go back demoralised they won’t even work efficiently. Let think about Zambia first and not MMD, PF, UPND or other tutemba parties. SO sensible contributions are the way forward bane.
#10 Kwashiorkor(sp) is a disease children get when they are malnourished. –
GRZ should be talking about the economic problems we are facing at the moment and the strikes by civil servants than talking about the pact.
We all know that MMD you are out already 2011, we will be on the ground starting from tomorrow with other foot soldiers.
Viva PF and UPND pact
What tha “” is wrong with Kunda? MMD survived by the skin of their teeth in the last election. if the opposition had united the story would have been different. This time the opposition has got it right and in good time, the end has come for MMD
# 16 you sound like an uneducated cadre who follows the wind. you are what the call pansaka ta pa bula icipuba. Wake up and smell the coffee, the reason you are in the UK is because the economics at home are not ok so why would you wish the Govt that led you to go abroad to continue. Arent you tired of cleaning dishes ku London
#26 walasa apopena give me five…… . Was surprised as well reading what #16 wrote
Every dog has his day .MMD your day is in 2011…
You Zambian Politicians stop the ´´POLITICS OF THE BELLY´´we are sick and tired of your lies,the Zambian people want RESULTS,have´nt you guys pocketed enough.Where is your moral conscience?where is “UBUNTU“.
The MMD PANIC over the UPND-PF PACT all started with Minister Teta., then the Lusaka MMD province characters said things, and then it was my distant uncle most experienced Zambian politician, I believe, VJ Mwaanga (US’ Stanford Uni. Grad., UK’s Oxford Uni. Grad.), and then President RB Banda and as of now the last resort ammunition Minister of Justice Vice President George Kunda. This is a sign that things are bad for the MMD with their internal power struggle and lack of governing Zambia properly deficiencies.
Thus, “He said PF/UPND pact was in disarray and bound to fail because members at the grass root were not consulted before the pact was formed” is understandable from fast loosing grip on GRZ MMD even in light of president HH’s clarification on this matter.
One thing i have liked about the pact is that they have started early and are attacking the grassroots, at the same time uniting the two extremes, the southern and the northern part of the country. Well done pact, just intensify your efforts and victory beckons you
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Surely of all thing that are important to talk about from strikes to deaths due to negligence, all the whole lot of Veep G. Kunda could be reported as having said is “Mr. Kunda revealed that there was a very vicious power struggle in the pact adding that both Mr. Michael Sata and Mr. Hikainde Hichilema were using each other to advance individual political ambitions“. MMD two years before the tripartite elections slated for 2011 is enough for the UPND-PF PACT leadership to sort out the issue of who will be presidential candidate.
So leave the PACT members to do their thing and concentrate on making sure President RB Banda is the only presidential candidate for MMD at your coming convention and 2011 National elections.
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Continuing on So leave the PACT members to do their thing and concentrate on making sure President RB Banda is the only presidential candidate for MMD at your coming convention and 2011 National elections. The your “The Vice President said the ruling party had only one formidable candidate in President Rupiah Banda who should be maintained is what you must concentrate on Mr Minister/Veep G. Kunda following your “He said MMD needed more time to complete development projects it was implementing beyond 2011 general elections” which you have embarked on now, 2 year before the 2011 elections, at the expense of developing the Country since election campaign time is far from today.
Anyway, enjoy while you still can.
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It is amazing how the ruling party is wasting time analysing what is going on with the opposition when they should be concentrating on their programmes. Obama once shut up Mccain during the campaigns he asked him that he spoke alot of things about Obama and did very little talking about the pipo of America. The same is happening here, MMD is talking too much about the opposition and yet is not saying anything about the pipo of Zambia
#26 Any chance we cleaned dishes together? How did you know I am a dish cleaner and I live in London? You must be one of those people think all people in the UK live in London. The ones that go like kulishani ku London even when you have told them you are in Wales. Cry your balls out! You might feel bettter. Sado!
Amazing how the opposition can be s t u p i d in Africa. Zzzzzz! Wake me up when this s i l l y pact disbands in July 2010. By then we will be in SA watching the world cup.
Becoz you know that you will rig the elections,but if at all you will play a fair game,then Ba Kunda we can bet MMD will be history like UNIP.
# 36 you are trully a stubborn lad arent you? You are in Europe so you dont the mood in Zambia . The pact is winning and if you are an MMD sponsored chap be prepared to come back home because power is shifting
3 Namweleu against UPND-PF pact greetings. On your “UPND has cadres who call the PF leader names like “undereducate”. Is that a thing we should be worried about? No sir. Do not worry, we are still in power in 2011“, I used to use the Pronoun Undereducate in place of the name MC Sata because’ Chewe the virgin’ asked me to stop using the real name MC Sata. Now that KAPOKO ali ilishanya (complained bitterly) about my using the Undereducate terminology, I now use the actual formal educational qualifications of the big man Sata MC (Sub B/Standard 4).
I hope this helps you and others who are ill-informed on the pronoun Undereducate which I don’t use anymore.
UPND-PF PACT, overlook him.
Be blest all.
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Gentlemen and ladies,Namweleu is a shushushu, working for the MMD. His assignment : to divide bloggers on this site by introducing tribal sentiments etc. The best we can do is make sure we ignore him- he is not worth the trouble. He knows the finger that feeds him will be cut off in 2011 and what we see from him are last kicks of a dying MMD. VIVA pact! Viva Sata! Viva HH! Viva Tongas! Viva Bembas!Viva ALL Zambians! We kicked out UNIP and we can ( and WILL) kick out MMD come 2011!! IGNORE NAMWELEU…..
If the PACT is of no consequence why did George Kunda call upon MMD cadres to go around discrediting it? MMD is dead scared of the PACT. The grassroots do not need to be consulted. They are the ones who’ve been urging UPND and PF to unite. Now the grassroots are extremely happy.
There some element of truth in what GK has said.We all know both of these two want to be a president.If you think this pact is bound to work,let one of these two leadres declare the candidacy,believe me you,it will be the end of the PACT. I like facing the truth coz I know how power hungry SATA is,and thinking that SATA will give HH the presidency is illusional and both SATA and HH know this.Those thinking the pact will work are just comforting themselves and not bold enough to face reality.
Instead of concetrating on developmental issues,you takkling useless issues.People are dying every second of the so called leaders……once we had real leaders but these are just jokers.Votes will declare you zwaaa and you will be arrested for declaring election results even before they are held.All your hommies will have to pay back for the riches they have acquired inna short time.You are a big let down fi you to even sit on that GRZ couch and say such
And all those with big bellies will have to be questioned how the acquared such inna short tym. Unless they are on the list of those who are frequently in SA for medical check ups and can´t acquare them big bellies.We have alot of hard working people in Zed.Whjat a shame a bunch of leaders we have
Sharp shooter, the reason it is called a pact is for the two parties to work in a such way so that issues of presidency do not come between them. if they reach a compromise it has a potential to work.
Now it is a war of words. The one who speaks the loudest wins. Who told Kunda that the pact is failing? What makes him think the grassroots were not consulted? Who did Mwanawasa consult to appoint him as MP and VP? Utter nonsense. Who did Banda consult to reappoint his concubine Dora Siliya? These are signs of fear in MMD. It is up to the pact to stand firm and wipe out MMD. This pact should now work as one to dismantle MMD in Parliament. Time for a clean slate in Zambia has finally come. If monkeys can see the need to piss on the MMD President, what about the people? Let us all piss on these failed pin heads.
why can’t you just continue with govt projects other than talking about the opposition?This shows you are somehow scared of this pact.if is it weak let then it be.You Mr. Kunda are letting them know that they are weak,what do you think will be their next step?of course they start preparing after you have alerted them.S
Nothing lasts forever, not even MMD.
Are you mothefuk!ng crazy, AS$hole? MMD is the last bich a deranged rapist would fwck even if he had the chance. You MMD crooks are nothing but thieves. Simply put, you embyciles can swck dicck.
WE ARE TIRED OF MMD 2011 KUYA BEBELE # 16 IS NOT EVEN IN UK HE IS USING A ZAIN MODEM. I KNOW HIM HE STAYS IN CHIBOLYA
#16 Namweleu against UPND-PF pact, put PF-UPND out of the picture if you like. Any small faction will whack the MMD in 2011. The people are just sick and tired of the suffering. You and Rogue Bandit will soon be sweeping that restaurant together.
40 KAPOKO MULUNDACHALO greetings. You are on the spot in your “Gentlemen and ladies,Namweleu is a shushushu, working for the MMD. His assignment : to divide bloggers on this site by introducing tribal sentiments etc. The best we can do is make sure we ignore him- he is not worth the trouble.
I had always thought that PF cadres were the bunch of characters that insult, but alas I know that it is MMD characters who insult – following Senior Citizen‘s insulting of president HH with a name Ichilema (lame person). I first came into contact with this name around the 2006 elections when it was used in the Copperbelt Province to discredit president HH.
Since PF people like Chewe the virgin stopped insulting HH, it is MMD.
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#39 Maestro, Sub B/Standard 4, LOL. You are crazy Is that truely the big man’s level of education? If it is, I am scared for your pact and for Zambia because he ultimately will be the president for the pact (I doubt if he can be for Zambia) come rain come sunshine.
The So-called Haka-Sata Pact joint Presidency is lifeless and lacking basic space to emerge or shape up in Zambian democracy. We have one statehouse but two fierce gluttons are suspiciously on each other’s neck in power struggle that is imploding the cosmetic and temporal unholy alliance mooted while trying to negotiate but in vain. It’s a marriage of convenience of the two divorcees who have left their kids un consulted in their pimping for carnal love outside their failed marriages. Prince Cobra Ichilema is a opportunistic Liberal while dad Cobra is populist demagogue with impulsive 90 days development miracle cycle rhetoric. Ichilema has been soliciting for alliances with MMD from Levy to RB meeting them privately while Sata is a give me the money dealer kaponya off the streets.
For now it is Hakainde Hichilema (MBA, UK) for 2011 Zambian President under UPND-PF PACT and Maestro for kwa-Hapiku a Hamunyone 2011 MP or somewhere else
To all blogger sympathisers of the UPND-PF PACT, stay focussed on winning 2011 elections and sending MMD out of government hopefully for ever and ever.
If the UPND-PF PACT GRZ will be formed a truth and reconciliation commission should be set to look into theft and mismanagement of the MMD GRZ from 1991 — 2011 (assuming the new GRZ will start then).
The current speed of giving money to those that speak out (e.g., 10 million ZK to UNZASU) against the MMD GRZ is alarming and hence the necessity of looking into all suspicious issues of the MMD GRZ’s rule.
Have a blessed time.
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Mr Vice President. There is no need for you to even give a statement. This pact will self destruct because of some UPND cadres. They are calling Sata all sorts of names, question and making fun of his intelligence and coming to the conclusion that HH will stand as the pacts sole candidate even before it has been discussed. This is like telling Sata “we don’t need you” when judging from their poor performance in the last two elections, they need Sata more than Sata needs them.
I am not even worried because I know the MMD will form the next govt. Like Senior Citizen says it, this pact is a TOWER OF BABYLON cursed by God.
Let us not waste time with such marriages of convenience. Just continue doing the good job you have been doing MMD.
53 Dongo Na Sundu greetings. On your “#39 Maestro, Sub B/Standard 4, LOL. You are crazy Is that truely the big man’s level of education? The real truth can only be released by honourable Self-appointed PF leader Sata (Sub B=Grade 2/ Standard 4=Grade 6 [equivalencies are according to my 60 something yr old mother], school unknown but somewhere in Zambia).
However, Minister Mulongoti, if I remember correctly, was quoted in the Times of Zambia Newspaper during 2008 elections as saying that according to government records, Mr PF leader Sata Michael Chilufya only reached Standard 4.
Interesting enough, Senior Citizen released data on one thread that the big man Sata only reached Sub B.
I hope this clears things.
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kunda please stop telling people what you think are the problems in the pf/upnd pact. rather tell the people what you intend to do to better the people’s lives. we are tired of old and cheap politics of character assasination. we dont wanna know the problems in the oppostion, and i am sure as hell its not your job to analyse the opposition for us. your job kunda and indeed banda is to better the lives of zambians, need i remind you lest you forgot!!
Political power is not mooted out of insulting tabloid ghetto journalism or by barking of none voting blogobogio cyber punditry, but vote based dynamics on the ground.MMD is live to targeted marketing to real voters that confer the mandate. The 2011 election will be a land slide victory for democracy, Zambians and MMD with RB as the father figure of a unified nation-state configuration. Zambia is set for historic election of discarding rhetorical and irresponsible inflammatory secessionist politics of Haka-Sata regional demagogues for more years of centrist MMD inclusive politics.
53 Dongo Na Sundu, on your “If it is, I am scared for your pact and for Zambia because he ultimately will be the president for the pact (I doubt if he can be for Zambia) come rain come sunshine. My personal analysis is the the UPND-PF PACT will field president HH as presidential candidate in any upcoming election. This is because the UPND constitution only allows president HH to lead that party upto 2016 while PF has no record of following their party constitution which means that honourable Sata MC (Grade 2/6, unknown) may continue leading it until it is disbanded or dies a natural death.
The move of letting president HH (MBA,UK) lead the PACT into elections now would allow Mr Sata MC to pursue school up to Grade 12 or equivalent and later do a Degree prog..
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Send professional researchers into Southern province and track the MMD gains against Prince Sata now left with Monze only.In the Northern and Luapula Sata’s feet are burning on each and every platform at the hands of RB and MMD Watch the space.
53 Dongo Na Sundu,continuing on The move of letting president HH (MBA,UK) lead the PACT into elections now would allow Mr Sata MC to pursue school up to Grade 12 or equivalent and later do a Degree prog[ramme]. This task will require at least 6 years to be accomplished. From today to 2016, Mr Sata MC (Grade 2/6, unknown) can manage to get a sound Degree education if he works consistently hard through the Grade 7, 9 and 12 exams, and then university.
Such would allow the PF-UPND PACT to let HH leave both Zed and UPND power to Mr Sata in 2016 by standing as a presidential candidate for Mr Sata would have proved that he has stopped being tribal and would have had the formal educational requirements that may be included in our upcoming Zambian Constitution.
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Matt…
Events have left Sata too weak to stay the course of regionalism politics. His tribal rhetoric he built on against MMD under Mwanawasa has finally fallen. RB is more northerner than any candidate MMD candidate. He has children born from late Mama Hope Mwansa until she was called to heaven. He has allowed the law to serve Zambians judiciously watering Sata’s tribal rhetoric.
FYI, Sata gained Luapula against Levy on insinuation that the late Mwanawasa was ungratefully persecuting their son FJT and northern that he had marginalized them for family tree only.RB’s nationalist inclusive stratification has pushed Sata into a none issue rumbling demagogue.
53 Dongo Na Sundu, continuing on Such would allow the PF-UPND PACT to let HH leave both Zed and UPND power to Mr Sata in 2016 by standing as a presidential candidate for Mr Sata would have proved that he has stopped being tribal and would have had the formal educational requirements that may be included in our upcoming Zambian Constitution. President HH (MBA, UK) can later appeal to be sponsored as presidential candidate but not UPND president after Mr Sata MC (then BA/BSc?, Zed/SA/UK?) ends his rule, by God’s grace or he (HH) can create another party for himself or join others that would be existing then.
This is a workable strategy and stay blessed as you contemplate on it you all.
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Free-Market-Economist and Senior Citizen, will you accept defeat if come 2011 MMD fails to go through? Don’t start with answers ‘like It can’t happen’. It’s a simple Yes or No question.
Kalos2020 true patriot, keep booting out the MMD.
MMD is the only party serving national interest with an open vision for a democratic and economic prosperity eventually for every Zambia.Progressives are supporting MMD in best national interest.Its democratic culture is an asset every self prepared citizen can count oneself as a future leader.Leadership is neither based on Tonga only for President model nor founder father only without convention model for Sata, but competitive open consensus democratic system.As a result every member and citizen is a potential leader free to sell oneself to citizens.
# 65 -Democracy is driven by a spirit of winner /loser outcome.MMD has served Zambia with those principles as its core values that if a candidate is rejected by the people at the ballot, it’s time to let others try next time. In 2008, you head RB in an issue driven campaign trail openly saying repetitively that he was set to retire had he been to lose an election so that MMD can try with another member as candidate next time.
For the 4 consecutive election defeats your sole losers Haka-Sata you call demagogue leaders have refused to make same declaration or use common sense that in a democracy, it’s not normal to keep holding your party to ransom as a natural loser. When you lose max of two at worst, like USA based John Kerry and El Gore hand over to others. It’s not a matter of life and death. Can we hear that retirement?
The pack is a thorn in the MMD govt’s fresh. What developmental projects do you want to complete? Don’t deceive Zambians. We need change. We need change. Full stop.
This culture of crying foul whenever losers suffer democratic rejection must stop.You cannot be lying that there is rigging in over 5 major elections but not able to substantiate on any ground. It is bad losing culture progressives must reject and denounce.Its bad excuse to keep holding the membership to ransom when they have the potential to do better than the self imposed sole loser.Prince Cobra and his father Cobra for becoming professional election losers and campaign finance shredders must get out of the way to allow winning members in their parties.Take the Gore/John Kerry Model if we have to respect them.
Senior Citizen, I’ll take your ‘if a candidate is rejected by the people at the ballot, it’s time to let others try’ as a YES to my answer. Just counter checking so that you don’t have health problems following the defeat of MMD in 2011.
A series of losses have been experienced over the past few years when the UPND, PF parties stood on individual tickets. But the pact is something new that could upset the laws of Zambian nature.
So watch out and may the best campaigners win.
No way
Should the situation arise that the MMD loses the 2011 elections, I will accept defeat as I follow the democracy model that the MMD has brought to the country and practices within its party.
I for one however know for sure that the MMD will not lose the 2011 elections because they are carrying out robust economic development projects.
Do not be deceived by Mwembe’s tabloid. The Zambian people want to continue with RB’s development agenda for the nation.
#72 Free-Market-Economist…..Why is the MMD being forced to float RB as the sole Presidential candidate?Let RB face the MMD electorate at the convention to determine wether they want him to represent them or not.Your observation that the MMD practices democracy within its party is flawed based on the fact that RB is trying to block anybody with intentions to challenge him for the MMD presidency.Remember how VJ at 06 convention was politically clobbered by Katele despite having the support of LPM and the state machinery.RB doesn`t want democracy to prevail in MMD because he knows that he`d lose in an open and fair election.
VIVA HAKA-SATA, kuyabebele ku farm mukulima fodya ba RB in 2011.The temperature is rising slowly and will culminate into the ejection of RB and GK to their farms.As form MMD,it will go into oblivion.Namweulu against the pact will be caged by ZAWA,The senior citizen will be a village headman in Shangombo while Free market economist will find himself in Katondo street.VIVA HAKA-SATA.
Red lips Kunda, which people at the grass roots didi the MMD consult in deciding that rupiah banda was going to be your presidential candidate in 2011? Don’t be such a hypocrite! Thew MMD lkong abandoned the democratic principles that it was founded upon and is being led by the nose by you, tetamashimba, shikapwasha and all those charactes who were not even there at the formation of the party. so keep you diseased mouth shut.
Mwaiche SHUSHUSHU SENIOR CITIZEN……Why is your party in an absolute panic about the UPND-PF pact?Independent observers like us can read between the lines that your bosses are responding to reports coming from the grassroot which are politically alarming.Take an example the the irrelevance of the newly formed party called ZED led by that lecturer how it hasn`t even merited a response from the MMD.If the UPND -PF pact was equally insignificant,the MMD could not be in such a panic.Read through RB`s rantings at last Wednesday Press conf. instead of tackling important national issues he was clouded about the same pact.Tell your boss to focus on delivering to the nation,or else that little monkey will do something more embarassing on him next time.
Okay LT, then while my comment is awaiting moderation, how about this: Somewhere in Serenje a village is missing its I.D.I.O.T!
kunda,the MMD has been talking of implementing development programmes since 1991 but the poverty levels keep rising.anyways HH and sata’s coalition will probably break down due to the power struggle so we’ll probably have monkeys peeing on his excellency RB for a few more years because of boring press conferences as he continues as president.
maestro,you’ve just cracked me up with your prognosis:the one about sata being in sku while HH rules is a classic.
I’m sensing a spiritual movement and i’m hoping that you ilusiveness of staying in power will definately come to an end. Kunda you’re the most educated Zambia and you will be the last person to defend Banda in power. This is what amazes me. what is wrong with the mind of the educated. Banda is done and we have no confidence in you. You’re done! MMD for you?! You’ve failed to deliver! This party is a disgrace and you’ve dissappoited us Zambians.
Kunda is not really one of the most educated Zambians. He only has first degree. But that’s not an issue right now. The MMD knows that the PF-UPND merger is powerful pact that has them running scared like little puppies. I agree with #80, Zambi-can, that time for these MMD corrupt thieves is quickly running out. Zambians have learnt a painful lesson of allowing these MMD *****s to continue plundering the wealth of Zambia without due regard to the millions of Zambians struggling to find even a squre meal of the day. While Zambians generally have no courage to confront these thiieves, the Zambian Armed Forces must be courageous enough to take a leaf from their Honduran counterparts and bring sanity to Zambia.
U 4cus on unseating each other and r threatened by the same 4getting the essence of governance
which is 2 distribute social services/basics equitably.
# 30, I think you need to check your data seriously. VJ never attended all these universities you have mentioned. VJ is a graduate of Livingstone Trades. KK and Nkumbula got that man to organize youth at the trades and eventually sent him to UN as the youngest Ambassador after independence. Stanford? Are you dreaming?
This politicking we see here some how makes those that have sense to quit showing up on this blog. Sense seems to be eluding us every time we meet here. Senior Citizen ( Ben Kangwa at the embassy) is busy promoting his recent employer RB, Maestro even after Sata and Hichilema comes together, seem to tear down PF people on tribal lines. Were does this leave us that have more sense than these two? How come they cannot only debate issues on merit? Do they too need monkeys to urinate on them?
IWE YALIZANDA PA Z RESPECT
# 82 Kalos2020, Stop arguing foolishly over what you have no clue about when you just emerged out of a poverty stricken family miraculously landing in the US as an economic illegal refuge. If you have freedom of movements go to fish academic records of VJ at registrar offices of Sanford, Oxford and Hunter College, New York. Maestro Hikucincha # 30 knows what he is talking about.
EDUCATION
1948 – 1950: Nansenga Lower Primary School, Namwala
1950 – 1956: Shuungu Upper Primary School, Livingstone
1956 – 1958: Keemba Upper Primary School, Monze
1958 – 1961: Livingstone Technical Secondary School
1963 – 1964: International Relations and Public Finance, Institute for Commonwealth Studies, Oxford University, England
1968 – 1972: Hunter College, New York – International Relations – Multilateral Diplomacy
Hon.Mwaanga at 65 with perfect education armed with most impressive public service by any standards is constitutionally a useful asset to the country where the Executive find his services critical. The man has vast experience not only as a high – profile career diplomat but also as a seasoned politician who has grown serving Zambians both locally and internationally in senior positions, This is the man on unbeatable record as being the youngest Zambian to be assigned a foreign diplomatic position! He was only 20. Your jealous out, he is a complete strategic and critical thinker you your fathers and clans joined will never match. Ask yourselves why your fathers have aged failures? He may have human failures but God has kept him to serve and prepare young patriots behind the scenes.
Take it or not, Hon. Mwaanga’s experience as a diplomat and politician is arguably unmatched having worked under all four presidents since independence in 1964. This citizen who excelled in International Relations and Public Finance studies at, Institute for Commonwealth Studies, Oxford University, England
And indeed in International Relations – Multilateral Diplomacy at Hunter College, New York knowledge he has heavily ploughed in the Zambian system. What have you or father done other than blogging insults 24/7? Where is your future and where do you see yourself 20 years along the way of blogging lies? What public service role can you numerate as having involved yourself in?
# 82 Kalos2020, Now post us the profile of your father or yourself if not not all about blogging only.I stand to see it here.
# 89 Serious – Shows the level of your understanding of the modern day. What can we point out that VJ has done. Shame on you my friend. He is the worst timewaster, liar and bullshitter I have ever seen. You need to leave outside of your coucon and see the truth as it is. Start having progressive thoughts
PY, I totally agree with you. In the midst of all the pressing issues affecting our nation, a VP of the country chooses to work for the party and not the government – what a shame!!! why do we even pay these guys?? these are the chaps who are supposed to forego atleast 1year’s salary (like in the British Airways’ case).
MMD THE PACT IS A THREAT WE ALL NO WE REBUKE NO MMD 2011 KUYA BEBELE IF U RIG WILL FIGHT 2016 TILL U R OUT
This Red Lipped bootlicker will be very shocked.
Someone whispered to me that Hon Teta has been quiet of late because he couldnt believe that a monkey could be more popular and get more headlines worldwide than him.
# 93. Serious, ulichipuba. What do you understand about VJ. Only a fool like you and your stinking father would ask about others’ parents. It seems you know more about me more than I do about myself. Bushe if you guys are real men why don’t you just post your sticking disease like names? Poverty, who is not in poverty in Zambia? I landed here using your mother’s passport has her boy friend. Does that answer you how I got in the US. The last time she came to visit you I took her out for a drink, and you should know what happened. How about that? Learn that you don’t own the monopoly to be offensive. We all do. If you so wish, I can send you my inform we meet in person that way if you have anything in your pant, you would say it in my face. I will pay for your ticket.
You say Take it or not, Hon. Mwaanga’s experience as a diplomat and politician is arguably unmatched. She worship drug dealers. Why do you think a diplomat has been burned to enter USA? The day your so called diplomat will enter the US will be the last day he walked free. What diplomat? Diplomats don’t do drug trafficking. What nonsense was that?
#2 If it poses no threat why talk about it? You only comment on someting if it has some significancy. By the way George is only nominated so its easy to understand his panic.
Mention the degree he got and from what University? Read his bio. He, himself has never mentioned any of the two colleges you have mentioned. Late writer Goodwin Mwangila wrote more about your HERO VJ. Please read!
Beceause of the docility of us Zambians, monkeys (to which we hail from) have started making the voices heard. George Mpombo has one charge at him and in haste turn to run away but fell straight in a pool at the Sun Hotel, Livingstone. Our ancetral cousins have a queer way of making a point. GRZ have sit and listen for once.
Serious, do you know how *****ic you sound? Do you need freedom of movement to fish out record on any failed drug dealer like your HERO DRUG LORD VJ? Man you have issues only your mother’s womb would be able to sort out. Thank God you were born, otherwise she would have gone crazy. So, it landed in your small VJ worshiping brain. Apart from spreading AIDS and dealing drugs, mention one thing that VJ has achieved that would deserve a national mourning apart from helping crimes being perpetuated in that great nation where your father was the richest but only to your family. So your father has more degrees than I do. So what? Does he feed me? Does he pay my bills? Your silly comments really to be evaluated. This is the caliber of people in the diaspora. Low level thinking. SAD.
Look at this copse above. Gentlemen, lets prepare for another state funerai.This guy is biding farewel now.
the monkeys have had it with the MMD govt. i am surprised the locals have not caught the drift. For a chimp to urinate on a leader , it is a bad omen. RB needs to go and soul search. State house covers so many metres of ground but a monkey had to choose the little space where RB was sitting. If it had pooed on him it would have been an accident but peeing means the monkey had to take aim at a target. Again we hear another fool was chased by a monkey in livingstone, probably the monkey thought he was a wild animal, IMPOMBO
next president of zambia will be an animal called HAKA-SATA.. What a waste of time.
Kalos2020-There you are typical of you all retarded La ley desagradecida que rompe extranjeros ilegales coyotes.I Challenged you to give us a parallel of VJ to your charcoal burning father. You are indeed a coyote in diaspora by accident. Again What have you or father done other than blogging insults 24/7? Where is your future and where do you see yourself 20 years along the way of blogging lies in the Diaspora on minimum wage when others are making real wealth 6 figure grudders using brain power? What public service role can you numerate as having been involved yourself in? Kalos2020, Now post us the profile of your father or yourself if not not all about blogging only.I stand to see it here.
There is something wrong with MMD leaders like George Kunda. He is taking PF/UPND Pact for granted. They think King Cobra & Prince Cobra are jokers. The MMD should not dwel on seeing the Pact crumbling, they should wake up and work hard otherwise they are going to be shocked. Even their specilazation VOTE rigging will not work.
Kalos2020, while you have worsened in your insanity over a simple challenge against your non materialized labor to Pull every citizen to the ghetto charcoal burning level where your father belongs, i remain cool and level head.The challenge stands, i don’t need you to feed me privately execuse of why poverty in your family 45 years after independence when others have recorded significant social progress. Now right here post us authenticatable profile of your father or yourself if its not all about blogging and smocking ifyamba while working on ifibili burning charcoal only.The whole world stand to see it here.
82 donya donya greetings. Following your “maestro,you’ve just cracked me up with your prognosis:the one about sata being in sku while HH rules is a classic” thanks and be rest assured that I am at your service.
If you check properly, you will realise that I have had an impact on the lives of many Zambians who are following my advice and English lessons on here LT and elsewhere, e.g., President RB Banda on UNZA-company partnerships, Dora resignation and re-appointment, the POST on used of maestro name in referring to Koffi, LT in this thread by using disarray, Senior Citizen on my issues, etc..
I have cadres like Mrs. Maestro on here and many more.
I will continue with this pace and Zambia will surely be a better place.
Have a blessed day…
Yaah, you may be you right in some ways. The only thing that possess a threat to MMD is the incompetence of the current MMD government! Just like UNIP before it, MMD has set itself on a self destruction mode! The Lord works in mysterious was, my elder brother. Just be ready for the troubles to follow and of course the inevitable inquisition (read prosecution)
87 Kalos2020 greetings. “Maestro even after Sata and Hichilema comes together, seem to tear down PF people on tribal lines. Were does this leave us that have more sense than these two? How come they cannot only debate issues on merit? Do they too need monkeys to urinate on them?“, I am just image building PF since it is in a bad shape.
Serious greetings and thanks for releasing good data on VJ Mwaanga.
Have a blessed day.
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Well placed sources had informed me some months ago that Inonge Wina was going to join the mighty UPND and hopefully as second vice president. Her joining the PF-UPND PACT under the leadership of president HH (MBA, UK) and honourable selfappointed PF leader MC Sata (Grade 2/6, unknown) popolarly known as Haka-Saka bodes well for the Western Province votes following disatisfaction over the fact that President RB Banda did not give Western Province the Vice Presidency.
I would thus ask PF people like MP Lubinda Given to relax on the possible Vice President of the Country should president HH form GRZ after being PACT presidential cand..
Let us all enjoy these things as the PACT is getting more and more useful support across the Nation.
Be blest.
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It will not do Kunda and MMD to continue talking about PF/ UPND pact- whatever he or anyone else (out of the pact) will NOT be taken into consideration. I am neither a member of any ‘pact’ but nor am I a member of MMD.
MMD has not provided leadership in the last 8 months- LETS GET RID OF THEM!
number two are you normal or you need help thinking wise?its like you are enjoying with them the money their steeling.get help really.CHIMUTU
#109 Serious, Arguing with you means less of myself. You seem to know more about all you discussing which tells a story about were you are coming from. Only an imbecile like you would discuss their father’s successes or failures. Simple advice, next time you look in the mirror, call that imbecile you see their a lunatic with very little to show of apart from insulting people. Umuntu alanda efyo achita. Why don’t you post your profile yourself if you have any. Very typical of most Zambians with very little or nothing behind their tails. You will always insult and insult but will never cash a normal or real check out of it. You are one of those who get so excited by getting US citizenships and think they have achieved a ton, get an education to go with it.
Ba Serious, doesn’t your profile fit ba Senior Citizen? Uh, after I cracked who you are and your profile, you come back at me like a cow on heat. Bamudala, this won’t work. I am really smarter than you. You grades at Hone will testify to it. Your lecturers told us. I am now in my highest level of education and psychological profiling is one of my specialties. So, BS yourself, not me. You cannot find another psuedo dissimilar to SE**
This so called republican vice-president has lost it. Instead of concentrating on government matters he sinks deep into party issues. Clearly these guys are having sleepless nights over the pact. In 2011 MMD will only win in Eastern Province. What more with the news that their other stronghold – Western Province – is demandind that the position of vice-president must be occupied by someone who hails from there. Is this not a sign of cracks in the MMD?
Let us wait and see.
Kalos2020 and Serious, Please make peace not war, I beg you. Let us learn a point or two from your contributions to the story at hand instead of getting at each other’s throats. You are both good contributors and we do not want to miss your useful contributions, however divergent they may be, because of the futile exchanges you are engaged in now. Peace to both of you my brothers.
118 Blue Blood greetings and nice on your “Clearly these guys are having sleepless nights over the pact. In 2011 MMD will only win in Eastern Province. What more with the news that their other stronghold – Western Province – is demandind that the position of vice-president must be occupied by someone who hails from there. Is this not a sign of cracks in the MMD?. I just wonder where MMD National Chairman Mabenga comes from.
My belief has been that he (MP Mabenga) is from Western Province and he is at the helm of MMD.
Have a pleasant day.
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while, some people like Kalos and Serious never cease to amaze me.
Thank you guys. I lost my mind by answering Mr. Ben Kangwa’s rants over his MMD problems. His support for MMD and my years with him at Hone, his last college of record made his guise and postings known to everyone. Yes, he is a senior citizen considering his age even when we were at Hone, but the issue of asking my father’s accomplishments whether meager or above his was not necessary. At his age, I don’t think a sane person could be involving parents on this blog. He span records at ZNBC, even my very youngest child can do that. I have accomplished more than he has in terms of education, but should that be our discussions here? Heck No. He is intelligence officer, (Spy) if he feels smarter, how about challenging CIA or FBI. Let us see if he will be in US tomorrow.
122 Kalos2020, find below the CV for Vernon J. Mwaanga as obtained from vernonmwaanga . c o m / bio graphy . h t m l
Vernon J. Mwaanga GOEZ
Biography
DATE OF BIRTH: 25th June, 1944
PLACE OF BIRTH: Choma, Southern Province of Zambia
PARENTS: Samson Simakulika Mwaanga and Rabecca Mweembe Mwaanga (both Educationists now deceased)
NATIONALITY: Zambian
OCCUPATION: Politician, Diplomat, Administrator, Businessman, Banker, Journalist and Author
MARITAL STATUS: Married to Edna Banda Mwaanga
EDUCATION
1948 – 1950: Nansenga Lower Primary School, Namwala
1950 – 1956: Shuungu Upper Primary School, Livingstone
1956 – 1958: Keemba Upper Primary School, Monze
1958 – 1961: Livingstone Technical Secondary School
1963 – 1964: International Relations and Public Finance, Institute for Commonwealth Studies, Oxford University, England
1968 – 1972: Hunter College, New York – International Relations – Multilateral Diplomacy
EXPERIENCE
1960 – 1963: Regional Secretary of the United National Independence Party (UNIP) for Choma and Namwala Districts of Southern Province, fighting against British Colonial rule.
1964: Second Secretary (Trainee) British Embassy, Rome
1964 – 1965: Deputy High Commissioner to the United Kingdom
1965 – 1966: Ambassador to the Soviet Union with extra accreditation
to Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Austria and East Germany
1966 – 1968: Permanent Secretary in the Office of the President (Director-General, Zambia Security and Intelligence Service)
1968 – 1972: Permanent Representative and Ambassador of Zambia to the United Nations in New York, USA
1969 – 1970: Member of the U.N. Security Council and became the youngest President of the Security Council
1969 – 1970:…
1969 – 1970: Member of the U.N. Security Council and became the youngest President of the Security Council
1968 – 1972: Chairman of the U.N. Scholarship Fund Committee for Southern Africa (South Africa, Mozambique, Angola, South West Africa and Southern Rhodesia)
1968 – 1972: President of the U.N. Council for Namibia
1970: Sponsored the Security Council Resolution which referred the South West Africa question for the second time to the International Court of Justice at the Hague and obtained a favorable ruling in 1971 declaring South Africa’s presence in South West Africa as illegal, paving the way for Security Council Resolution 425 which eventually led to Namibia’s Independence in 1989.
1970: Vice President of the U.N. General Assembly during the 25th Anniversary of the United Nations organization
1972 – 1973: Editor-in-Chief of the Times of Zambia and
Sunday Times of Zambia
1973 – 1976: Minister of Foreign Affairs and participated in the Mozambique independence talks between FRELIMO and the
Portuguese Government held in Lusaka
1974: Candidate for O.A.U. Secretary-General in Mogadishu, Somalia, where the then Somali Foreign Minister Omar Arteh Ghalib and I could not obtain the necessary two thirds majority after Heads of State had voted a record 21 times and both of us had to withdraw in favor of William Mboumua Eteki who had been eliminated on the first ballot. Needed 28 votes to win and was short of 3 votes. I was sponsored by Tanzania, Kenya, Ethiopia, Uganda, Botswana, Nigeria, Gambia, Sierra Leone, Ghana, Swaziland, Lesotho, Malawi and Zambia
1976: Member of the United National Independence Party (UNIP) Central Committee
1977 – 1988: Chairman – Bank of Credit and Commerce (Zambia) Limited
1980 – 1986: Chairman, Zambia National Chamber of Commerce and Industry and remained as Trustee until 1992
1977 to date: Chairman, Curray Limited (Family business dealing in Chubb Security Equipment and Computers – hardware and Software)
1990 – 2002: Founder Member of the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) (Card No. 0000003) and became National Vice Chairman and Chairman for International Relations. Chairman for Information and Publicity on the National Executive Committee and MMD Chief Party Spokesman
1991: Elected to Parliament in Roan Constituency, Luanshya in Copperbelt Province for a First Five year term
1991 – 1994: Minister of Foreign Affairs
1993 – 1994: Hosted the Angolan Peace talks for 14 months which produced the Lusaka Protocol of November, 1994
1995 – 1998: Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on National Security and Foreign Affairs
1997 – 2001: Member of the Standing Orders Committee of Parliament
1995 – 1996: Member of the Public Accounts Committee of Parliament
1994 – 2000: Member of the Government Committee on Good Governance and in this capacity attended many Governance Workshops and Forums including the Africa Governance Forum I in 1997 in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia Africa Governance Forum II in June, 1998 in Accra, Ghana and Africa Governance Forum III in June, 1999 in Bamako, Mali
1996 – 2001: Re-elected to Parliament in Roan Constituency for
a Second Five year term
1998 – 1999: Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee for National Security
and Foreign Affairs
1999 – 2002: Minister of Information and Broadcasting Services and Chief Government Spokesman, Parliamentary Chief Whip, with full Cabinet rank
2001 – 2002: National Secretary and Chief Executive Officer of the Ruling Party, Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD)
2002: Nominated to Parliament and re-appointed Minister of Information and Broadcasting Services, Chief Government Spokesman and Parliamentary Government Chief Whip until July, 2002
2004 – 2005: National Secretary and Chief Executive Officer of the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD)
2005: Member of Parliament and Government Chief Whip
2005 – 2007: Minister of Information and Broadcasting Services and Chief Government Spokesman
2008 – To Date: Member of Parliament and Government Chief Whip
HONOURS
Awarded the Republic of Korea Presidential Medal of Honour for Promoting International Peace and Understanding in Seoul, Republic of Korea in 1992.
Awarded the Grand Order of the Eagle of Zambia (G.O.E.Z.) by President Levy P. Mwanawasa, SC on 24th October, 2005 for having been the youngest freedom fighter, diplomat and Minister and for having been the only Zambian to serve in the Cabinets of all the three Presidents and for the loyal and dedicated service rendered to the Government and people of Zambia since 1961.
Following the above clearification on VJ Mwaanga’s CV and my then it was my distant uncle most experienced Zambian politician, I believe, VJ Mwaanga (US’ Stanford Uni. Grad., UK’s Oxford Uni. Grad.) on posting 33; I would like to make mentiion that he earlier CV of VJ I saw may have been wrongly written and so take this new one as truth for it comes VJ Mwaanga’s webpage himself.
Have a great day and my apologises for giving wrong information earlier since I failed to get a link between Standford University and Hunter college both of the USA.
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Sir, you have too much time on your hands. Life is too short to spend discussing reckless people like VJ. I have a life and that life does not revolve on discussing other people’s accomplishments or their shortcomings. Anyway, thank you for time. I have to grade student papers. I have to know which side of my bread is buttered.
135 Kalos2020 greetings and thanks on your “Life is too short to spend discussing reckless people like VJ. I have a life and that life does not revolve on discussing other people’s accomplishments or their shortcomings“. However, it is not that I have time but only that I have to help you to stop or avoid hating for absolutely nothing. Insulting or being jealous has never helped anyone in any form, but only eternal punishment is waiting for unrepentent haters.
So, change for the better as God is always willing to forgive you and me.
Anyhow, take care, all the very best in your activities and keep well.
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You are an adventist. I am not but I have hosted adventists inmy home. Late Pastor Matandiko on his last trip to the USA dinned in my house, (Ask your adventist friends in California) 2 Catholic Priests and a well renouned Pentecostal Pastor has done the same. I don’t know who is hating here. Dear I have family that has built on their own land an adventist church. God is on my side when I defend my family from insults. Thank you for wishing me well. But God will reward me better than the attacks I have endured from you and your friend Serious. I have never have to endure insults from older people like Serious/Senior Citizen over VJ’s education which according to your latest posting, I was right.
Excuse some spellings. I am in a hurry to pick up my pay check. That is better than those given to embassy officials like Serious. Not to make him Jealous.
137/8 Kalos2020, it is a pity that you are not well vest with the Holy Bible’s scriptures as regards face value behaviour. In fact, someone said, “you can not judge a book by its cover. So, your outward, “I am not but I have hosted adventists inmy home. Late Pastor Matandiko on his last trip to the USA dinned in my house, (Ask your adventist friends in California) 2 Catholic Priests and a well renouned Pentecostal Pastor has done the same.” is nothind as lond as you continue with your “God is on my side when I defend my family from insults” for God, my Creator, is not a God of insults. I have never sense anywhere in the Holy Bible where God encouraged humans to insult. Perhaps you can send me a Surah with such from the Koran.
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137/8 Kalos2020, as for your “But God will reward me better than the attacks I have endured from you and your friend Serious “ can you provide a quote to prove that I have insulted you anywhere.
Your “I don’t know who is hating here” is clearly and illusion. On your “I have never have to endure insults from older people like Serious/Senior Citizen over VJ’s education which according to your latest posting, I was right“, where were you right, can you provide a quote instead of writing lies on here? As for me, I read that VJ was at Stanford and I looked for that information, but could not find it on the net and hence my clarification – which was a noble thing to do as great men do when they find details are not consistent.
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The sad part to all this discussion is that, you a “holy” person chooses who to attack when in fact you know the root of this. Serious insulted my father and called them names. You chose in your holiness to jump on me leaving the person who started all this. Yes, you would say I was not supposed to respond in the same manner, but you should also know that I don’t take lightly to insulting my parents. My belief is that anything worth living for is worth dying for. And that is my parents and my children. I know why you get hot on this topic, probably because it involved your tribesmate, VJ. I really don’t care. My father is attacked, I will really do anything possible to defend them. If you don’t well, it is your choice. I know God is on my side. I don’t need permission.
I am sorry I added a 2 to my psuedo.
141 Kalos20202, please stop jumping around and just provide proof to your claim that I insulted you.
On your “Serious insulted my father and called them names”, I did not engage in a discourse with serious because s/he did not write to me as you did in the other thread – where I wrote to you that you were blessed for I responded to you. So, stop trying to find sympathy in a terrible manner and live up to your words as you are the one who wrote to me.
As for your “The sad part to all this discussion is that, you a “holy” person chooses who to attack when in fact you know the root of this” nice elevation of me, but only God is the judge for I am a sinner only saved by His grace. I hope this is clear to you.
Continued.
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Man, you must be a very lonely person. Try some sports. Tennis or Chess. Probably Rugby at least you will be tired and spend your time reading and not blogging.
141 Kalos20202, on your “I know why you get hot on this topic, probably because it involved your tribesmate, VJ. I really don’t care”, avoid making bad insinuations and just provide proff to your refusal that my distant uncle VJ Mwaanga is not educated to the level indicated in the postings. Your tribal nonsense will not help you for I will not waste my time on non-issues of that sort any more.
As for your “I know God is on my side. I don’t need permission.” I already informed you that I support you in your insults as a Seventh Day Adventist if that is what you choose to do, but I am only encouraging you to stop insulting as it is bad behaviour.
I look forward to read proof failure to which I will not respond to you on this topic.
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Thank you God be with you. We shall meet in hell. As heaven has no space for arguing.
144 Kalos20202, following your “Man, you must be a very lonely person. Try some sports. Tennis or Chess.” You appear to be very sick for I am a Chess player already and I play football too.
Your behaviour is really terrible. On your “Probably Rugby at least you will be tired and spend your time reading and not blogging.” Continue being in a rude shock for I will never stop blogging or doing what I like until the Lord God recalls me or Jesus Christ finds me alive.
Have a blessed day and I am off now in terms of responding to you on this topic.
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Na mweleu, what crap you are! I thought tribalism is long gone! But be assured, that in 2011 you won’t even be able to post anything on the net bcoz you are GOING! We will register enmass such that you usual malpractising will not work! Ask our beloved Super Ken! Namweleu, get back to Kalundu in Kasama. People are dying to sort you out there! Dont forget, you hailed from there!
Great issues altogether, you simply gained a new reader. What might you suggest about your put up that you just made some days in the past? Any sure?