Health workers at the University Teaching Hospital (UTH) have defied government’s directive to return to work or face dismissal.
Last week Health Minster Kapembwa Simbao and Chief Government spokesperson Ronnie Shikapwasha gave striking health workers and nurses an ultimatum of up to today, June 29, 2009, in which to resume work failure to which they were told to consider themselves dismissed.
A check by ZANIS at Zambia’s highest referral centre the University Teaching Hospital (UTH) revealed that the nurses have continued with their strike action as many wards are still deserted while others were found closed.
In some wards such as the maternity wing and the casualty only a skeleton of student nurses and senior Doctors were found attending to a large number of patients.
The situation at the children’s ward was no different as most of the wards are still closed and only a few patients were found at the out patients section waiting to be attended to.
Meanwhile, Nurses were found seated at the car park of the main entrance near the casualty ward while others were found loitering within the hospital premises.
And patients talked to expressed concerned at the stance taken by health workers not to resume work.
Sharon Ntembwe said the current situation at the hospital is sad as many lives have continued to be lost due to lack of medical attention.
And another patient Chisanga Mulenga called on government to quickly intervene in matter by offering a lasting solution to the problem and save lives of vulnerable people who can not afford to seek medical attention in private clinics.
Mr. Mulenga charged that the ultimatum by government is likely to worsen the situation adding that government is supposed to engage in dialogue with workers.
And UTH Public Relations Manager Pauline Mbangweta referred all the queries to the Ministry of Health who could not be reached by press time.
Nurses and other health workers in the country have been on strike for more than 35 days demanding improved condition of service such as the risk, uniform and night duty among other allowances.
ZANIS
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I am waiting to read about dismissals now and the flocking into UTH of Zimbabwean nurses to take over jobs of the striking Zambian nurses.
All the best UTH striking nurses in your future endeavours.
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Mattew 6:33 + KJV Bible
Good ba nurse, let these chaps take pay cuts so they can meet your demands….enuff already!
VIVA Ba Nurse… RB is too selfish… never give up this battle nurses… onward battle ,
aluta continuahhh!!!!!
nurses are f.oo.ls, either way RB doesnt lose out..Zimbabweans come in and everything swings back to normal.. then what will the nurses do??? die of hunger all coz of being too proud for facko!
go go nurses.
some of these things called strilkes are meant for richer nations ot where you know ati u dont even have other sources of income.. ala we will be laughing and see where selling tomato will take them..
Ok now Shikapwasha and Simbao, recruit those retired nurses and nurses from zimbabwe. Threats dont work this time around, Zambians know their rights now. Shame on you………………..
VIVA Nurses… This is the way to go guys. Get your cash now, its now or never. Simbao and Chikapwasha how long do you think it is going to take you to recruit Zim nurses to replace ours? You are thinking like a ten year old boy mudala, always preserve what you have. The best to go about this issue is NEGOTIATION thats all. Intimidation will never do midalas. Just go back to RB and explain to him that the country is at stand still.
Nambala 5, whatever herbs you are smoking in Great Britain are too strong, go easy on that mate!!!
Evern if there are nurses in zimbabwe the conditions there despite their situation are better than here. Further this government does not have the gutts or the capacity to do what they say they ll do!
Impressive stuff on “Nurses and other health workers in the country have been on strike for more than 35 days demanding improved condition of service such as the risk, uniform and night duty among other allowances” as this is a good lesson for Constitutional Office bearers not to take public workers for granted.
Just an update on events at home, ZCTU president Hikaumba L. in the morning addressed the striking nurses at UTH and promised to talk to MMD GRZ official for a better solution thatn threats. President Hikaumba L. promised that he will address the UTH nurses again this afternoon at about 15 hrs address them nurses with some news from the MMD GRZ which has failed until now to come up with a better deal.
I am afraid things look bad for MMD.
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Mattew 6:33 + KJV…
Chikapwasha we want you to sort out the corruption casses at ZNBC we now know of them. If you had a hand or loot into those billions of kwacha your soul will haunt yoou. The rot is just too much in this country i call my own
These Zim. Nurses , what have they got to offer?. This is not a permanent solution. RB will be creating a problem on top of another.
What these nurses are asking is not much compared to the comfort apamwamba’s enjoy.
What can one do with ZMK 300 to 400 Thousands?? ma rubbish..
numbala 10 fyali dula kuno so i m restricted to only 3 times a week..nga uko fyavashani? but on a serious note.. Zambians need to learn that there are people in far worse conditions than them and that the free market regional economy works in exactly that way i.e. foregners fillin in where locals are too proud to work.. although shikapwasha jump started this process
#5 walai nthwenu mputi business, you are in the UK. You, having the opportunity to be in a position to compare, should know that Zambians need better conditions of work. Hospitals need equipment, Cleanliness etc. and they need to be paid well. It motivated. In Europe nurses earn good money. Even there in the UK. I live in Europe myself. I know what I’m talking about. Ulimututu sana. How long have you been in the UK? I doubt you live their. Your thinking seems to be very low.
30 pin/month night allowance mwe bantu kwena. Lets be serious, assure the nurses, sign some commitment fimo fimo, nurses are ready to go for work. If they are coming at whatever car park, that means they are willing to work. Epo fye ne ule teti lisumine 30pin for 1 night!!!
#5 Uleke fwaka. It doesnt take 3 days to recruit a foreigner and 2 days for them to start working. Heath workers in Zambia are the worst paid in the all Southern region in case # 5 you dont know. Even the Zim nurses Chikapwasha is talking about are well paid compared to our own health workers. Shame on you leaders.
Please, president HH (MBA,UK) as UPNDPF-UPND PACT leader, kindly go on MUVITV and radio stations to address the striking nurses. I am asking you this sir, because the MMD GRZ through Ministers Kampembwa Simbao and Ronnie Shikapwasha have seemingly incited nurses to continue with their strike action. Please, president HH use your professional negotiation skills to amicably convince the nursees to go back to work.
As for the above mentioned Ministers, let President RB Banda take necessary action on them epecially Minister R. Shikapwasha whose statement on bringing in Zimbabwean nurses may not be taken lightly by the Zimbabwe unity government.
Let PACT do what an alternative government needs to do by telling them what you will offer them in 2011.
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Mattew 6:33 + KJV Bible
Its really a sad situation for all involved; nurses, patients, and the government. The government knows they cannot fulfill the nurses requests and its highly impossible for them to recruit Zim nurses because they have to put a lot of logistics in place.Simply put, GRZ knows it can’t afford Zim nurses. You and I can sit here and blog and say yes don’t go to work but people in Zed are dying in numbers. Every other house mukomboni has a funeral. If you thought it was bad before, it is worse now. I pray a lasting solution is found for the sake of the people caught in cross hairs.
number 16 you see the problem with people who go abroad and then take up abroad tendencies is that they start thinking like you! How do you compare UK and Zambia. of course i know that we should be moving in that direction but my friend development is not like a phat which you shula and then it spread everywhere quickly..development is a step by step painful process of sacrifice and strictness in running the economy. It does not matter how long i have been in the UK If anythimg i have come to learn that most peopel here are not even that educated compared to my eduacted fellow zambians. Every country has its own uniqueness in the development sphere and will ttherefore go through a different transitional route of development meaning that what UK has or has had might not be wer we end up
Well done nurses!!!!
this is a good stance taken by the nurses.
wat abt teachers?? they shud have done the same
chabipa this time around people dont fear the government’s directive and threats coz the system in the governemt is rotten so it will be very difficult for them (govm) to pay all the nurses who will be fired..
Zambians are just never satisfied!
walai nthwenu mputi business :
If the grass looks greener on the other side, water your own lawn …that defines your passion. This is what the strike is about. If we are always going to run away from problems in the name of such government intimidation, we will always lag behind …. since all will be fired!
I guess you know better than we do that the so called developed nations were once underdeveloped. It took them a chain of revolutions …and say NO to such nonsense as firing everyone. South Africa today is much better than we are because of such. USA had it’s own chain of such. Where were you when people where fighting for Independence. If it weren’t for such attitudes, would you have had your country getting independent?
Be a little more passionate about your fellow…
i think its a landlocked syndrome
Way to go. If monkeys cannot keep up with the system and are now defiant, what more with an intelligent nurse?
uncalled for what are they trying to prove out side influence. They should go back to work or be on go slow so at least they can attend to the sick. They can plan another strike say once a week they will refuse to work until an agreement is made with GRZ, its that simple there a ethics in the medical profession.
Go back to work
Ohh my God!!! very bad situation indeed for the poor patients who are unable to go to private hospitals. Pls, dialogue with nurses asap for the sake of poor majority fellow Zambians who are suffering.
Its either government pays NCC & MPs Gratuity or pay nurses. Tiye nayo ! Zimbos should not be a solution. Did zambians flock there when the zimbo government could not pay its people ? -Wapya munzi !
CIA eya you think like me! NI APOPENE ULI PA POINTI MY FRIEND! EYA
The Copperbelt meeting of Nurses resolved not to return to work but have another meeting tomorrow at 16 00Hours. Bakali kuchivivula.
How much allowances do the gov give to people in NCC??? they get not less than K500,000 per sitting on top of their huge untaxed salaries are we being fair to give nurses K30,000 as an night shift allowance, our gove should not be selfish? let the gove gove reduce the allowance for people in NCC to K30,000 per sitting.
Its time for Citizens to rise up and protest against this unrully bunch of thugs!!!! I am ready to get to the streets. Come on guys!!!! Where the hell are we??? VIVA ZAMBIA!!!!!!
Its time for Citizens to rise up and protest against this unrully bunch of thugs!!!! I am ready to get to the streets. Come on guys!!!! Where the hell are we??? VIVA ZAMBIA!!!!!!
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!
i just hope this whole thing of zim nurses wont be like what happened in congo Rwandes rebels helping the gov in the end they said “we want a share of the gov….you know..
IWE NUMBALA 36 NA NSALA WAT RUNNING ON THE STREETS DO U THINK WE ARE GOING TO DO
VIva Nurses.Iwe #5 Walai intweno mumputi,so you think RB is not losing out.Some of you need time to see the aftermath.RB is losing grip on things and i think this strike just a glimpse of to are going to witness.But 2011 yena balabeko ba mudala and 2012 he has to account for his actions or inactions.
Monkeys are upset, but Zambians are still waiting for someone to sort out our mess. This is our government!!! They are not our bosses!!! We are the custodians of this country. If they mess it up, we have nowhere to go. Rupiah Banda has Zimbabwe!!!!! Lets support our health workers!!!
Big up nurses……..waiting forthe bunch of comedians in MMD to issue threats to people the whole nation depends on.It´s high time that our so called leaders realised that everyone deserves what they work for.For long,you have been taking people for granted
No. 36. This is no laughing matter!!! We are all seated confortably blogging here when children are dying at Arthur Davison Hospital We have women and children dying at UTH, women giving birth on the streets. Meanwhile, Rupiah and his minions are going to SA for treatment. They are going for holidays with family. This just aint right. How long are we going to be this passive??? THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER!!!!!
Thank you nurse for fighting the evil that is govt.
I for one go for a revolution inna deer situation like the one our beloved Zed is going through in the hands of false leaders to get a solution.When gov´ts fail in most cases,the army comes in but it´s a pity our army produces the likes of Shikawasha
# 5 you dont have a clue of how much nurses sacrifice in their lives. Do you think development comes on a silver plate? The so called rich countries you think can afford strike actions went thru a lot more worse. Remember the revolutions in most European countries. You are a very retrogressive Quack by comparing Zed with worse off countries than better off countries. Some of you bloggers should just keep your ignorance of issues to yourselves.
#38 you,re very disapointing!!!!!!!! I hope you do not represent the vast majority of our people. VIVA our nurses!!! VIVA ZAMBIA!!!
Ultimatumz, deadlinez or indeed threats will not take anybody anywhere. There shud be no winner or lozer in the outcome of all this.Only engangement in serious and meaningful dialogue of give and take will save the suffering patients.
# 40 change we can : monkeys ka– ha hah hah aha ahahahahahahahah
Other workers should move in as well. Help the nurses, go on strike until these guys have learnt a lesson that, they are not really wanted as GRZ officials!
guyz dont you think that poor salaries wil lead to more KAPOKO’S TO BE BORN?let us give nurses what they deserve VIVA VIVA NURSES……OTHERWISE WE MAY JUST SEE RETURN OF KAPOKO PART 2
“United we stand, divided we fall, we shall not be moved”
The struggle continues…don’t give up the fight!
Can any body explain to me the logic of nurses going to work everyday dressed in uniform jusk to bask in the sun at the hospital premises. I have no quarrel with their strike but it must be heart rending for a patient to see so many nurses around who cannot treat you. It is like they are scared if they stay away people will be employed in their absence. The reason why strike last for a long time in Zambia is that strikers continue being paid while on strike. In other countries the unions pay their members from their contributions. Here members’ contributions are used for the upkeep of the union executives.
Poaching nurses from Zimbabwe is inhuman. The people that side have suffered enough already and we want to steal their nurses? This is irresponsibility of the highest order. The Zim Govt is trying hard to rebuild and our Govt is scheming to steal its workers. And I thought one of the public dailies reported that nurses had gone back to work? Spare Zim, the Cholera that side is yet to be contained
Imagine our defence Minister could not defend himself against a monkey. What about the nation? Twachula Muzambia.
Walai, walikwata outbreak ya ingnorance mwana. Ignorance yobe kwati ni pachishala, plentious! Shani ka dyonko mune.
#54 This is the problem with our Newspapers with the exception of the POST. TIMES and Daily are a joke. Iam sure the likes of Shikapwasha, Mulongoti, Teta and team thought, if we say Nurses have agreed to go to work, they may just go and work!!! The level of ineptitude and mediocrity is astounding!!!! How can these fools be removed from office?? They have clearly failed to do the basic of things!!!
I hope my wife goes back to work
walai nthwenu mputi business, I agree with you to a certain degree. May be at this time, we also need to look at whether some of their demands are justifiable so that a compromise on either part is reached.
Last week, it was the RB opening his mouth and treating the Zambian population to comedy. The monkey pissed on the Bwezani coz he was talking jibberish!! Now, Mpombo was almost killed by another monkey in Livingstone in a separate incident. Monkeys are fed up with this bunch of *****s!!! I think its time Zambia showed these jokers the red card!!! ZWAAAAAA~~~!!!!
What next RB and your team
Wele! 2-0 in favour of the nurses!
This is beginning to look like a Man utd vs Arsenal game where Man utd are the nurses and Arsenal is the govt.
Simbao and Shikapwashya, hopeless chaps
Bloggers, what happened to Shake ka Sezangakona who alleged that my distant uncle VJ Mwaanga may have died in China? He is mising and I am concerned though he has been insulting me. Also, whoever comes into contact with chewe the virgin must ask him to show up on here for some character, with his behaviour, was arrested in US for aiding a US Citizen to kill someone.
This arises from the fact that shushushus have become serious in their quest to bring down the UPND-PF PACT, even by insulting.
On another note, newly formed ZED political party president Fred Mutesa announced at his resignation from UNZA, if I heard correctly, that the nurses are justified in their strike.
Have a blessed day and keep well.
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Prevention is better than cure.
where will the zim nurses stay since they will be gettinh 100pin for accomodation? Are going to stay in the bush together with monkeys.
Times are hard.
F****D nation. No direction. Jesus help us.
It’s almost like this country is cursed ai?
#61 HH for fimo fimo, don’t compare Gov to the ‘Gunners’. Try Man U Vs Man City, where Man City is GRZ
Wow! this is great Ba Nurse please don’t allow Shikapwasha and his colleagues to intimidate you.You deserve the best,Iam really disappointed with the way Govt is handling this matter.How can a person with high calibre like Shikapwasha talk like that.ati they will outsoursce Zim nurses sure.This govt is a great curse to the nation why can’t they just swallow the pride and ask the health workers to resolve things amicably,unlike the way they are doing it.
God help Zambian leaders,Namipapata mwe Lesa.
Government officials always remember to increase their own salaries time and time again and they forget the nurses this I when government will realise that nurses sacrifice a lot and are needed by the nations. Let’s see whether truly government will fire them all its all dreams to fire all. It would be failure on the part of government to hear the cry of workers and citizens in the country. May be it would be better to Impeach RB as he seems not to show good leadership skills.
UNZA lecturers have gone on go slow….there we go!!!! Our governments have failed since the 80s,but this particular one is horrible,like the 90s one…we need change!!! Nurses are tired,teachers are tired,while these guckers are building mansions and giving themselves huge gratuities and bonuses. I think this country need massive change,a revolution kind of change,,,,,politicians have taken us for a ride for too long, dearth to these evil souls!!!!
sauzande here eya ni apopene! uli pa pointi mune! im telling you..we shouldnt always look at such strike situations from the point of view of the nurses only… these nurses once they get this believe me they will now think that they are a pressure group and that all thier demands will be met in the future..this will set a terrible precedent my dear friends.. AND BY THE WAY ALL THOSE HATING ON ME SHOULD GET HOBBIES, EVEN SCRATCHING YOUR ASSSES WIL DO PLEASE! NAPAPATA
Zo-ona MMd is finished even monkeys are disaproving their leadership.I have just seen the headline on the post ati Mpombo was next victim.ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
Prepare for hard times ahead.
GRZ has alot of money!.For example,they are supposed to recruit Teachers every year and they already budgeted money for their salaries.Each Teacher is supposed to recieve a salary of about K1.5million.When you multiply this figure with the number of the ‘to be engaged Teachers’,the total comes to K7.5 Billion budgeted money every month.Multiply by twelve months,you will see that,they have more than enough of what the nurses are demanding.And this money is there but not being used as GRZ is not recruiting Teachers yet.Come November/December,you shall see alot of seminars in the Education Sector coz,these chaps would want to steal something before they return the money to the Treasury.When the money goes back to the Treasury,it disappears as it is shared among the Top Memebers of this…
Guess we got sumthin in common with Somalia….no flippin government!!!
nambala 5 belongs t the zoo
the animal aggration that these atrocities is supposed to stir in us is being reflected in the recent actions of those two brave monkeys.
do u have any idea how much a nite at the royal livingstone costs? do u know how many times these m.or.o.n.s from this excuse of a government go to the royal livingstone to chill? can u blame the monkey that saw mpombo for who he was and tried to drown him? huh? can u?
iwe hot stepper which village do you originate from? can u give justification for that view of me? i accept and enjoy been told rude stuff only if at first you have atleast argued against or for me constructively..so pliz first show me you have got brains before giving that useless smelly comment..wawunfwa mwaiche?!
dude love dont feel jelous coz maybe u havent been to royal livingstone ok?! yaba
dude nthwenu, thats how i know how much it costs, na mean? ignore the flag reflected on my name coz rite now i am in zed so actually seein wats cuttin frontlines style…its totally sad, though i do know were u comin from with your arguments, the painful thing is these dudes still want to pay themselves 420 million each!!! and for wat? the recent increments they awarded themselves are just totally nuts!!! 4 million kwacha talk time allowance per month????
WE are waiting to see nurses fired emass at UTH. GRZ tactics have failed to work. When you intimodate pipo thye will equally have ways of countering. What is the way forward Bwana Gen. Ronnie Shika. Find a better way of resolving these matters. The earlier the better. I agree with Pro. Luo that given the current status nurses do not believe GRZ has no cash. Infact some of them their brothers, sisters, children and spouces are in better positions od decision making so they are well informed of the current situation in GRZ.
the monkeys are upset..very soom all the animals will attack GRZ…
dude lovey 4 million talk time!? ey ok there is a problem guys!
Where iz the humour or connexion in Arsenal, Man United, Man City, Zesco United or indeed Choma Eaglez, with regard to the problem we have at hand?
One thing for sure the monkeys in Zambia are doing a better job of attacking MMD than the opposition – what does that tell you
No 76 please accept my belated LOL!!
VIVA Chimps for the next Govt! They got ma vote!! Least everyone will be assured free or heavily subsidized bananas!!
There shud be someone to give inspiration and hope to the nursez. The moniez demanded may not be attainable outrightly, but an assurance of concern and dedication improve to attend to their plight, would go a very long way. Nobody shud want to just win!
wats that ‘monkey movie’ with mark walhberg in it? watch it, these chimps know their s.h.i.t.
berlusconi babe, LOL accepted, though from now on, i demand immediate LOLs! Anywayz, wat these chaps can do is at least meet the nurses halfway, am sure there’s enough buck to do that!
walai nthwenu mputi business you make me laugh, even if you are disgustingly irritating! Be real man!
wala nthwenu, we may have divergent thought processes on this issue, but i kinda like u….maybe its the the sheer bravery to have a name like that….specially the mputi part….
mimi.. we can always meet for a date sometime mu future ka? i am assured to make u seka seka alot.. u likinz sekalin alot ka?
imwe u ve heard about mpomo..ati ale floatinga kwati chi shombo mumenshe
walai nthwenu mputi am you use your mputi kumangalande for businees
if you are not using a ZAIN MODEM you will come with your mputi big
# 94 walai nthwenu mputi business, that can only happen in your wildest dreams!!! I cannever have a date with a PANK like you.
ati pank like me.. ya mwa ponta..kanshi women pa zed are still like this.. thats why i like me my british ni fast forward fye.. no time wasting.. those days are long gone bane!
number 96???? sorry but mi dont get fi wat u said ma broda
No.19 why do U want HH to go on TV and ukupapata ma nurses when the government is still taking things for granted.they have taken the situation lightly,thats why RB doesnt know even what the nurses want.Mind u even Shikapwasha said i quote his words “THERE IS NO CRISIS YET” when actually people were giving births on the streets.
WHAT A SHAME!
To be honest also why should the goverment adopt the most expensive way of recruiting foreighners and our mother nurses who retired and need to rest,instead of just negotiate with the current workforce…Ma uniform bacili nayo but if its new people countrywide haa!! it will be another budget just for uniforms.COME 2011 WE WILL SEE MWAUME. Gentlemen and ladies have u ever heard of a listening goverment…NALANDA FYAFULA EPO MPELELE.FYASHALA…
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There comes a time when for every addition of knowledge you forget something that you knew before. It is of the highest importance, therefore, not to have useless facts elbowing out the useful ones.Choose what you feed your brains with.
If money is your hope for independence you will never have it. The only real security that a man will have in this world is a reserve of knowledge, experience, and ability.
Politics, as a practice, whatever its professions, has always been the systematic organization of hatreds.
A leader has to lead, or otherwise he has no business in politics.
Politics ruins the character.
Politicians are largely governed by sententious platitudes which are devoid of truth,they think with their bellies rather than the mind
if I was in school I will be irrelevant
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#5 nurses working conditions are pathetic! some of you people talk without having any facts at hand? Which nurse in Zambia is able to afford a decent lifestyle from their paycheck, you open your mouth like you know it all! Why should Zambia be compared to the poorest countries? if some countries are poor thats their problem, we should strive to be like the best and not finding suffering ok just because others are suffering too? People like you make Zambia go backwards. Ministers and government officials compare themselves to other rich countries why can’t the nurses do the same? Anyways let the nurses have better working conditions and a pay check JUST LIKE THE MINISTERS ARE COMFORTABLE WITH THEIR CONDITIONS OF SERVICE. But again i respect your opinion we all cant think with the same mind
ghost dog please dont get too emotional with your computer..we get your point sha! coming NUMBALA 112 my friend what conditions do you want for nurses!? eh! you expect me after i go for years and years of studies at a prestigious university and then become minister to be paid or have the same living conditions or incentive with a nurse who underwent training for i dont knw if its 2 years katwishi! uletontokanya eh! sha sha! i am not comparing us to poor nations but my friend we are a poor country and therefore please lets learn to compare ourselves first with successful regional countires rather than daydreaming and comparing yoself to the UK..my frend we are still a long way..we will die and thinhs wont be like pa UK..lets learn to be realistic at times..its not your fault bt history’s
#5 Walai nthwenu, you are the most foolish blogger ever to appear on Lusakatimes. If you don’t have sensible contributions to make, just go and shinda pamputi makaka iwe. Do not even use fwaka as an excuse.
Trick game!
When did the monkeys take charge?…..Starting with the one they call the heard of state and at half time nearly cleared his defence chief haa! Surely monkeys are aiming high and if possible a win when we reach the penalty shoot out.The fact is before us they are strong and inteligent,so what will prevent them from achieving what they have started?Its just a matter of time.why should they become a voice for the voiceless now……..through their actions…..I cant believe.
Monkeys go ahead help us deal with politicians since for you it’s not treason. So you have dealt with two. One in Dusaka and the other in Divingstone at Doyo Zambezi otel.
#113Nthwenu the reality is most nurses have higher education than most ministers e.g shiks form 5 teta some useles diploma Angela cifire form 5 nway, u can just go to the national assembly site n u will see that mps (some who are also ministers)for the level of their education…they are living the life!!! we have pipo who failed to pass form 5 in GRZ so IMAGINE WHO THE SHOW IS RUN????
If these guys in government can find money for mobile hospitals without even minimal ideas of how mobile health/technology works (defined as the exchange of information remotely, where the information is voice, an image, and elements of a medical record or commands to a surgical robot and the communication of information to facilitate clinical care), they should be capable of providing medical personnel with better (equal pay) packages. Cutting of unnecessary international trips by the high echelon may just help in finding enough money pay medical personnel and other essential workers.
Why should a Zambian Ministers have more than 1 motor vehicle??
Why should transport be provided for government workers (to and from work)??
Why should so much money being wasted in the name of investigating corrupt practices by some former leaders? By the way, how much money has been recovered and where is this money??
Where is the money which have been raised from the new passport exercises e.g in the United Kingdom, Zambians have been paying £50 each for new passports. But where is this money (in Sterling)??
Where are the ambulances donate to Zambia if individuals can end up giving birth in public places??
Zimbabwean Nurses!, Is it not time for Zimbabwe to build its own capacities in Healthcare? Why should we sink so low as Zambians by getting back what we gave to Zimbabwe? We trained their military and hosted them during the colonial era and now RB and your not very intelligent cadres want steal nurses from the Zimbabwean people??
#133 who tells you that being a minister you need to go to university, the only requirements you need to be a minister are : 1) you are indigenous Zambian 2) you are a member of parliament either elected or appointed and 3) you are above the age of 21 period! were does education come in. This is why Zed keeps going backwards, being a minister is not about making a living its about offering a service to your nation. The more you comment the more your expose your ignorance, you have this uneducated cadre mentality that pulls our country backwards! How do you have a father in a home living lavishly while the kids are crying all day. And believe me without people like you Zambia will be better than England, remember there was a time the kwacha was more powerful than the US $ Think about that!
IWE NAYIWE NUMABALA 124, you should understand how analogy works ok! I didnt state that university degree is the requirement,.,You shouldnt learn to read and think word for word..have you been to university before?? there is what is called reading between the lines OK? what i meant is simply that no matter what, ministers have more responsibilities on their backs than nurses (especially our zambian nurses who are doing completely nothing at the moment) When i referred to the degree and uni point i was referring to myself..basically trying to show you how unfair it would be on myself actually…yes kwacha was =1 pound at a time but my dear friend you dont understand economics ok! you grandfather kaunda was running our country like a shop back then.. of course just selling copper
CONTINUED FROM 125 without having any strategic plan.. and by then you should learn that the international market was favourable to copper exports. Kaunda was just a chap who found himself in the right place at the right time.Even then werent we lining up for bread etc..so my friend Zambia has never been like the US or UK in real terms.. dont look at currency relationships and think that they are analogous to economic well being or level of the country.. any leader can just wake up today and decide to revalue the currency..so dont folllow those tales our parents were telling us about how powerful kwacha was.. to mean that everythin was better..
THATS WHY SOMETIMES I THINK ZAMBIANS WANT TO BE RULED IN A SOCIALIST WAY COZ THATS HOW KAUNDA RULED AND EVERYONE SEEMS TO HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH THAT. MY FRIENDS FIRST YOU SHOULD STUDY ABOUT SOCIALISM AND ITS PROS AND CONS AND THEN WEIGH OUT WHETHER WHAT BA KAUNDA WAS DOING WAS RIGHT.. I AM THINKING WE HAVE ALL BEEN TO SCHOOL ON HERE AND LEARNT ATLEAST A BIT ABOUT DIFFERENT POLITICAL SYSTEMS, I KNOW OUR ZAMBIAN EDUCATION SYSTEM OR CIVICS DOESNT GO INTO DETAIL BUT YOU CAN PICK UP A BOOK AND READ.. ON YOUR OWN..THATS CALLED INITIATIVE-EDUCATION OK..YABA!
AND NUMBER 124 TELL THAT BIT ABOUT SUCH JOBS IN PUBLIC SERVICES NOT BEING ABOUT EARNING A LIVING, TO THE NURSES! YABA
#5 I can tell from you contributions,uli mputi zoona!!!
iwe mambala numbala 131 can u please offer constructive arguments.. you know one thing.. i say alot of crap and loads of sense on this site.if you are clever you will also get my positive ,points ..they can educate you a lot in the political sphere u get me?.. please argue against me and offer points then we can talk..dont give blunt statements like that
Most of you would not accept to earn what the nurses are earning. They have been crying for a decent wage for a long time and keep on getting messed around. Obviously, they feel bad about people who are dying, but they are dying too – who will take care of them and their families?? The unions only care about getting their 1%, which amounts to a colossal sum. Let’s pray for the nurses to be led by God and strengthened by his might and wisdom.
I wonder where people think the extra money would come from? People imagine that Zambia is not as poor as it is. We are trying to come out of this poverty by choosing or attempting to follow sensible and prudent economic policies. One way of doing this is by spending within our income revenue. Our tax base is too small to support the kind of increments that the nurses are asking for. Whilst their plight is well understood and appreciated (just as for many other well meaning civil servants), it would be imprudent and disastrous to imagine that we have the capacity to meet their demands. The stance taken by grz whilst unpopular is yet good in the economics sense. This is a sure sign that the current leadership looks beyond the politics of appeasement and populalist policies seen in yester
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years. Part of the reason our country has faced economic stagnation is especially because of politics of appeasement. In the current matter, what that would mean is that, the nurses would be blinded or appeased by granting thier demands and everyone will be happy? Behind the scenes, BOZ will be instructed to print extra notes, paper money, without value. The resultant effect would be higher prices (inflation). The current economic status is one which obviously creates lower production. Any increase in money circulation in such circumstances will result in price increase(inflation) – higher consumption from increased salaries of civil servants, behind a negative production of goods will obviously trigger inflation. Ultimately who loses? The whole nation, negative growth.
The effects of high literacy levels cant be over emphasized. If the majority of our country men were equiped with the basics of economic theory, we would be in amuch better position! This is the more reason why emphasis should be given to education. The chances of coming out of economic malaise is directly linked to the literacy levels. Other wise, the very population of the led will be millitating against economic growth albeit unknowingly.
The politics of issues is yet to arrive in our country. Govt main duty, it seems, is to explain it policies IN THIS MATTER. The whining and grumbling will not do as good. Imagine the effects of an abated inflation. But how many bother to understand this. The African is easy to please as someone has said and in this case, even some paper money will do even if it will only last for a few days.
‘Give them what they deseve’ To say such things is to be highly unrealistic and ….
number 5 ulichipuba just stay with white pigs in the U.K
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Nurses thankyou, for your sympathy for your patients,but don’t expect anything good from these quacks, they are selfish,give them 2 months but Come November/December 2009,don’t spare them .you are the only people that can save even us poor zambians to make change of gpvernment the impact is there even in rural areas.
Next time the nurses go on strike, the government should be decisive in sacking them!!
Those supporting striking nurses – a reminder – Many people suffered during the strike – may be you were not affected because you have other means – an ordinary Zambian depends on government hospitals – Do not play with life. Politics OUT!!!