Government has refuted opposition Patriotic Front Leader Michael Sata’s allegations that President Rupiah Banda is fighting to restore former President Frederick Chiluba’s immunity.
Chief Government Spokesperson Lt. Gen Ronnie Shikapwasha says Mr. Sata’s statement in today’s edition of The Post, is a total fabrication founded on his propensity to tell lies and mislead the nation.
He has since challenged Mr. Sata to provide evidence that President Banda is fighting to restore Dr. Chiluba’s immunity. In a statement released in Lusaka this evening and made available to ZANIS Lt. Gen Shikapwasha said the statement is false because President Banda is not a member of the National Constitution Conference (NCC) and cannot, therefore, use the NCC to fight for the restoration of Dr. Chiluba’s immunity.
He explained that the NCC works independent of the President and has representation of people from all walks of life, most of whom, he said, have no common forum with President Banda where he can instruct them on what clauses to put in the constitution.
Gen. Shikapwasha said the NCC has people from the opposition political parties, non-governmental organisations, the church and many other sections of society. He said there is no way such a representative body could be manipulated to engage into addressing personal issues.
Lt. Gen. Shikapwasha, who is also Information and Broadcasting Services Minister, said Mr. Sata’s statement is an insult to the men and women of integrity sitting on the NCC, as he is insinuating that they are not thinking but only acting on someone’s instructions.
He said as far as the government is concerned President Banda has nothing to benefit from the restoration of Dr. Chiluba’s immunity. Mr. Sata is quoted in today’s edition of The Post as having said President Rupiah Banda is fighting hard to restore former President Dr. Frederick Chiluba’s immunity.
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😮 Irony how can Sata, every Zambian and even Veteran lie about what’s in plain site. As a believer and young brother of our Lord Jesus Christ, heed this my friends. This rev. Is a false teacher, how does he even feel being one claiming to be called to teach th truth, then go out and tell a grownup lie in broad daylight.
Lt mind your english.
The National Conference Comedy is introducing clauses that were never submitted during the CRC sittings across the country. Chifumo Banda, Lupiya and all, we know your game. We will tear this constitution apart when we come to power.
🙂 Let my little knowledge of states that have given too much power to the president, educate this minister of propaganda. Firstly he appoints ministers and I guess a few non constituency holding MPs. He appoints the cheif justice that oversees our highrachy of justices. They ones that cleared one of chiluba’s cases, if the NCC adopts the immunity close indirectly the restore chiluba’s immunity. While directly RB’s inertia started a chain reaction in fluid mechanics that affected a physical judge to free FTJ( hydraulics) that affected a national electric grid( Zambian people) when that physical hydraulic judge bulldozer pushed the last needed power generator into place.
DON’T VOTE FOR SATA
By Chanda Chisala, Zambia Online
Before the last elections (2001), I wrote and published an article on Zambia Online in which I predicted that the incumbent party’s candidate would win the elections.Obviously, the criticisms thereafter from PF cadres didn’t affect me at all and it turned out that I was quite accurately right in my analysis.
I think that one also has a higher responsibility to help shape the future of one’s own country. The last thing I want is to see someone ruling this country who I completely disapprove of, but only to regret that I never did anything to stop that from happening. I will therefore do the little that I can to prevent a situation that I definitely would regret.
So here I go: Whatever you do in these elections, do not vote for Michael Chilufya Sata. I know nothing about Ngondo, but I think he’s a joker. It is very unfortunate that this time around Sata is one of the three or two frontrunners, which is really ridiculous. I just can not understand how so many people in Zambia can forget in such a short time what this man is really about.He hides behind his jokes and blunt humour, but the man is a completely immoral and shameless opportunist who has no moral boundaries in his pursuit of whatever he wants. If he needs to tell you silly jokes to get your votes, he will. If he needs to hack you with a machete to prevent you from giving someone else your vote, he will.
If he needs to hack you with a machete to prevent you from giving someone else your vote, he will. If he needs to start a tribal war in order to win elections – In 2006 before elections he made the unbelievable statement that the presidential race would be between the ‘Bantu Botatwe’ on one side (HH and Levy) and himself (Bemba-speaking) on the other side – he will.”This is exactly the kind of monster you do not want your children to grow up into, and it is certainly not the kind of man you want to take the position of the highest office in the land”.
Michael Sata pretends to have some super-special answers for this nation that he kept secretly to himself all the time that he worked so obsequiously under the first two presidents of Zambia; and amazingly, people believe him! He claims that he could not implement his “great” ideas back then simply because he was not the one in power. This is the first sign of the man’s great dishonesty. It is one thing to work under another president who can not implement your ideas, but it is quite another thing to sing praises to what that president is doing, and saying it is the best for the country when you “know” it is not.
Michael Sata used to praise Chiluba at every opportunity for what he was doing and even went as far as aggressively advocating a change of constitution to allow him a Third Term of office. If now he is saying he was actually against what Chiluba was doing, except that he could not be heard, then why was he praising him and why did he want him to continue on and on? So that he could continue doing the wrong things (including high taxation) that were making the people of Zambia (whom Sata loves so dearly) suffer so much?
“Would a man who wants to deliver the people from suffering advocate the continuation in office of the man who is making them suffer? Unfortunately, some cadre in Zambia have the memory of a housefly: it lasts only a few seconds; and they will vote for him because they are unable to see beyond the range of the moment into the full context of the man’s fraud life and career”.
The duplicity of Mr. Sata’s character appears even in his policies. He has this impossible mix of policies that can only deceive a person who is unable to think in integral wholes. Mr. Sata has on one hand, a policy of very low taxes (within 90 days) and on the other hand, another policy of improving the lives of the poorest people by building them modern houses, also within 90 days (besides giving jobs to all unemployed nurses and teachers, increasing the salaries of all teachers, policemen, students, etc). If you take these policies separately, they are technically possible and doable, but not if you try to integrate them.
“Mr. Sata is relying on the failure of his cadres to think by integration, a mental weakness he also clearly exhibits. Just as he has seen that they cannot integrate his current moral claims with his past thuggish record in UNIP and MMD, he knows they won’t be too serious about integrating his economic policies either. Or maybe he sincerely believes in these ideas, which is even more frightening”.
Why is it impossible to integrate his two wings of economic policy? Because they are mutually exclusive if you take them the way he is presenting them. Or to put it very simply, you can not have your cake and eat it. Any political party in the world that advocates lower taxes naturally also advocates less government expenditure (and size). You lower people’s taxes so that you can enable them to build their own houses from their higher savings – not so that you could build their houses! Mr. Sata is advocating both low taxation and high government spending, which can’t happen because government gets money from taxes.
Sata’s answer to this dilemma is that the low taxes shall produce such a booming economy that he will be able to spend even more as he collects more taxes in total. In principle, it is true that low taxes should create a booming economy (as I’ve always advocated), but it is impossible to implement a policy of low taxation when one is promising to increase spending at the very same time. What would be possible is for one to suspend all these high social expenditures for a while as the low taxation policy leads to productive prosperity and budget surpluses: but there is always a time lag, and the time period is not 90 days or anything close to that.
Sata, on the other hand, has this incredible dream that within 90 days, the tax reduction would attract such huge investments that he will still be able to collect enough money to engage in his socialist spending policies within that same period (he even explicitly calls himself a socialist and he has expressed his ardent admiration for Fidel Castro and – please hold your breath – yes, 1000-percent-inflation-man Robert Mugabe – himself!). Even if the man is sincere in ignorance, we must not endorse his sincere ignorance. It’s a tragedy when educated people use their minds to rationalize their support for such ignorance instead of simply calling a spade a spade.
Its unfortunate that, even some very highly educated people like Dr. Guy Scott are lending credence to this nonsense; they have sold their souls to the devil himself just to have a last taste of some sweet power in their older years before they die.
Guy Scott is even encouraging Sata’s ignorance on the issue of China. Recently, he reproduced an article in the Post (from an English writer) that discussed how China is supposedly destructive to African economies, to show that Michael Sata is not the only one with a skeptical attitude to China. The claims being made by Guy Scott and Sata on Chinese impact on Zambia’s economy (specifically) is steeped in either ignorance or intellectual dishonesty, or perhaps in a genuine disability to integrate facts – for which.Guy Scott (at least) should not be forgiven
It would probably shock these two if I told them that China is affecting Zambia’s economy more positively than any other nation at the moment. And it would shock them even more if I told them that the little money that China has gained from investing in Zambia is just a small fraction of what Zambia has gained from China! But to realize this, you have to be able to integrate more than two things (in just a few logical steps), a skill which is apparently the mortal enemy of Mr. Michael Sata’s mind as we have already seen.
China’s recent ambitious drive to build its industrial and economic infrastructure has led it to make a huge demand for certain minerals that it doesn’t produce, one of them being copper. That’s step one. Step two is that Zambia produces a lot of copper which it sells through the London Metal Exchange and which still drives its economy. The high demand for copper by China is what has made copper reach the highest prices in the commodity’s history in recent months. The rest is easy: this high price largely explains how the Zambian Kwacha appreciated by such a high margin against the dollar over the last year.
Facts are facts.The impact of the Chinese economy on the Zambian economy is therefore very explosive and it is projected to continue for a very long time to come, way beyond our next president’s term of office, whoever that might be. In the globalised economy, you do not calculate the impact of another country’s economy on yours by simply looking at one little factor and ending there. You might just bite the finger that’s (literally) feeding you!
Mr. Michael Sata is indeed zealous player, as he has already proved, but the presidency also requires (imperatively) that one be a thinker, even minimally.
DON’T VOTE FOR SATA
By Chanda Chisala, Zambia Online
LT how do you allow this kind of B ullS.hi.t wherey one person posts comments from #6 through 23 just because his point of view is in line with yours? This is pathetic! Instead of refledting that there are 23 comments, you should simply say 6 comments becaue from 6 through 23 are just one person’s comments.
Shikapwasha is a fake pastor. i dont know how and what his children take him for. Shame on him. For you Repeat Senior citizen Veteran…know that I will Vote for the PACT (HakaSata). Why should I wate my vote on MMD? Nope dear!!!!!:):o:o
LT, could you confirm if you also operate under the name zambia online.
zambia online has reduced readership because of the b,u,l,l,s,h,i,t by the site editor, Chanda Chisala (repeat), the son of a PROSA.
Please LT, spare us from this character whose site has been deserted for luck of innovation and personal grandiose. Chanda Chisala (repeat) should surely be ashamed of himself. Iwe cimbwi, ububi swaini.
Repeat, that is spot on. Surely even those bloggers with the small brain of a fly can now see Sata for what he is. How can Sata think that RB is manipulating the whole NCC (including pact members from UPND by the way!)? And the Post puts this across as headline news for its fly-brained readers. Of course the Post does not believe in what Sata says but anyway it sells to the many fly brains and brings them cash, loads of it! That is the only reason why I, like the UPND members of NCC, support the degree clause. The clause can only be good for Zambia if the country is full of fly brains such as appear on this blog. When someone commits a crime, civilised society dictates they are imprisoned although you could call this discrimination if you are the criminal!
Have you seen these Sata supporters on this blog? Just look at their comments: nothing, not even rubbish! Go on Repeat, sense is beginning to creep into these fly brains. Zambians should thank the likes of Repeat for persistently teaching these Sataists some sense, they are slowly but surely changing!
#26 mule,
Instead of insulting Chanda Chisala for his intellectual truth, show us your own discussion blog so that we can learn the innovation and traffic thereon if you are any better than Chisala.All you do is day in and out insult those who have shown initiative.You insult LT, the Zambian Watchdog and now Chanda Chisala for their open door policies and intellectual justice yet you keep blogging on their sites without invitation.You blame LT, Zambia Online and ZWD as MMD mouth pieces, but what stops you from starting your own blog where you can have one dimension blog entries of insulting RB, MMD and rational minds who expose Sata?
# 26 mule,
Instead of insulting Chanda Chisala for his intellectual truth, show us your own discussion blog so that we can learn the innovation and traffic thereon if you are any better than Chisala.All you do is day in and out insult those who have shown initiative.You insult LT, the Zambian W-a-t-c-h-d-o-g and now Chanda Chisala for their open door policies and intellectual justice yet you keep blogging on their sites without invitation.You blame LT, Zambia Online and the Zambian W-a-t-c-h d-o-g as MMD mouth pieces, but what stops you from starting your own blog where you can have one dimension blog entries of insulting RB, MMD and rational minds who expose Sata?
Since you vainly smear every news portal that delivers exposing truth on Sata as MMD mouth piece, why don’t you start your own newsportals / blogs which will be one dimensional pro Satanism where insults on MMD could rain unabatted without sanity? All PF Ngwangwazis could then converge thereon.No one sends you invitations to blog on these blogs you claim to be pro MMD blog forums.
God forbid that a man so mentally bankrupt as Mr Sata should ever be President. He has nothing to offer the Zambian people but lies, rumour and innuendo as well as imagined enemies. He may do well to give over to Mrs Sata,
Some these Chiluba blogger kool aid drinkers are trying to divert the conversation to Sata. Sata did not make the clause NCC did. He is not the president of Zambia Rupiah is…Why the offensive tactic to act like Sata is the problem. The main subject here is Chiluba’s immunity maybe lifted and that is a fact NCC have voted for that.
made a mistake in #32 I meant NCC actions will allow Chiluba to restore his immunity depending on the courts actions
MMD aspirant presidential candidate pro clive chirwa resignation from MMD is an eye open to RB and his followers to prepare for their exit in 2011. Mr chirwa has out lined very important and serious issues which MMD has failed to address to help zambia improve. In his resignation letter to MMD Mr Chirwa has cleared stated, there is no perceived benefits in been MMD member with current leadership and totalitarian governance in the party to impress Zambians, come 2011 its gona be crucial encounter for MMD.
#34 chachine.. This article of Prof Chirwa’s resignation is a must read. Kindly allow me to share it with bloggers. …… MMD 2011 presidential aspirant Professor Clive Chirwa has resigned from the MMD with immediate effect on grounds that the party is corrupt and facing death. In a letter to MMD national secretary Katele Kalumba, dated January 28, 2010 and accessed by The Post, Prof Chirwa stated that he had decided to cut his umbilical cord connected to MMD, because he could not compromise his beliefs of good citizenship that was untarnished, that did not tolerate corruption and cheating.
I meant #35. ……………. He said the MMD was no longer the party he had known over the years in that everything had deteriorated to an extent that the party was literary paralysed.
“It is with both gratitude and regret that I write to inform you of my decision to resign my membership of the Movement for Multi-Party Democracy (MMD) with immediate effect. As you will know, I have been a paid up member of the MMD for over three years. I was one of its original sympathisers and later donors, who believed in the ethos of the party as it resolutely promoted democracy, fairness and selfless service to the communities in our beloved country,” Prof Chirwa stated.
bloggers have you noticed that LT has been taken over by Dickson Jere from state house they cover more and only positive things about the MMD government, they only cover the opposition if its negative we should start analyzing all articles critically . if you have noticed the cover anything the government says quickly.
When the opposition issues statements affecting the MMD Government the take their time to report but they will report the government‘s response to the opposition at a lightening speed . Please lets open our eyes bloggers these guys are manipulating us alot.
I was one of the first bloggers to join LT and reporting was impartial but things have changed now .
Only a fool will not notice that MMD is sinking. This is what happens when you have a Club of financially poor souls. Not only him but I forsee many right thinking and forward thinking Zambians leading this Mwalya Mweka Daddy (MMD) party. If you think you will get anything out of supporting the MMD are chasing the wind. This consitution is good readance for us when we take over power, and the reason is simple. The Zambian people have never acceptable the mode of adoption, and the financially poor people in the NCC.
# 38 Rain maker u are right.I stopped contributing to this site the moment i realised the shushushu are in it. But I have restarted so that i can tell the foolish MMD my peice of mind. This site is being manuipulated by the MMD and it’s secret service. But what MMD should know even shushushu have realised RB & MMD are on the way out.LT have started even asking for our e-mail address.Lets continue hammering them, they are impotent and going out come 2011. RB has teamed up with ka Little thief FTJ and Old man KK,it wont work cause the three have no more influence to us Zambians.We Zambians are also to blame, we have allowed the three Foreigners to hand over power to themselves whilst we watch arms akimbo. Lets riot to force them out, Zambia is ours.lets REVOLT
SATA is right! Kafupi is Using RnB to get his immunity. And already he has been given back all the confiscated properties on the CB. Why can’t some stupid people see this. You will revokably regret this RnB nonsense! The man is simply not fit to rule!
Ba Repeat nimwe ba Veteran/S. C. The article here is not about China v Sata. We all know what is going on. RB has promised FTJ something. On Wed the man FTJ was in Kalulushi near the Golf Club where he dished out 50pins and urged people to vote RB and assured them that RB if voted back into office all those who were short changed by ZCCM in pensions and house sale will have their problems sorted out. My friend who attended gave the 50pin to a beggar near Shoprite in Kitwe. He was dis gusted to see that Chiluba thinks he can buy people with 50pins. In short the NCC is all about individuals. Oh I hear that if Sata has indeed got a degree, they will include a close barring those who have stood 2 times before.
LT wayamba vaupuba, I think we should all stop blogging, ifyabupuba fye! fyola! chi LT nichi cadre cha ba MMD, fyola fyoooooooola
I cannot see anything wrong with China.It is our system which is too porous.Actually the chinese are paying more than recommended by our cheap labour laws.
They have not yet classified items nicely.Poor Zambians will stil continue complaining while the Chinese will simply say,no evidence of law wages at all.They actually have copies of our labour laws from the 1980z.Diplomacy will help
Its funny, Repeat aka Chanda Chisala has his roots in MMD. If he can condemn Sata for supporting Chiluba, what is he saying? He continues to support chiluba anyway, which is worse than once supporting a fool and stopping than continuing, So mr repeat, we dont have that much time reading your many posts because you are so much a loafer you can afford so much time to post and insult the many zambians intelligence. I dont support Sata’s behavior and yes he is dangerous but hey, he is much better than the bunch MMD has to offer. Tell us just one person in MMD who is popular (for the right reasons). Just give us one please. I will give you 2 months to come up with a name.
Repeat is tha same Imbecile we all knw on this Blog…he is such a let down to our country..he is also fearing for his job.
Iwe kwena chi Repeat uli chinangwa, wembushi we, koswe nomu chila.
In what capacity is Mr Frederick Jacob Titus Kafupi Chimasule Zharare Nkonde Chiluba doing promising people that HE will sell them houses? Is he the puppet master holding the strings for Rupiah Bwezani Kwenda Banda? 20 months to go and still counting. Zambians register as voters en masse so that we kick these bumbling bumblers where it hurts.
Sata only goes for what suits him. Anything which makes him look good is cool. He supported Chiluba third term bid, chased all potentials.He thought he will be anointed for presidency. He again supported chilubas acquittal just before the 2006 elections. He supported windfall tax. when levy implememted the tax, Mr Sata u turned coz the govt was goin to gain not him. The govt has since withdrawn the tax. sata wants it back. What kind of man is this? Authenticity is one the virtues of being a leadership. To mr Sata, truth is only truth if it suits his agenda. God help.