Chiefs in Luapula Province have appealed to the committee appointed to look into the funeral arrangements of second republican president Dr Chiluba to consider flying his body to allow people in the area bid farewell.
Luapula Royal Establishment Foundation chairman chief Chisunka and chief Lubunda, made the appeal in separate statements on Monday.
Chief Chisunka says a lot of people in the province have been telephoning him to ask government to fly the body of Dr Chiluba to Mansa for them to pay their last respect.
He says people want to pay their last respect to Dr Chiluba, but are complaining of travel costs to Lusaka.
He says the committee of ministers overseeing the Dr Chiluba’s funeral arrangements should therefore consider flying his remains to Mansa airport where many people will be allowed to pay their last respect.
The chief says people feel it is by taking Dr Chiluba’s body to Mansa airport that the second republican president will be given a befitting farewell in his home.
And Chief Lubunda of Mwense district has also asked government to take Dr Chiluba’s body to Mansa airport a day before burial.
He says this will accord many people from his village to pay their last respect to Dr Chiluba before burial.
The chief, who is also a cousin to Dr Chiluba says he is grieved and in sorrow over Dr Chiluba’s demise.
Chief Lubunda and Dr Chiluba also attended primary school together.
ZNBC
oh my goodness not again! All the provinces will now start crying for body viewing.Hey y’all just travel to Lusaka.I’m sure RB can provide a bus.Let the man rest in peace.
in fact just bury baby doc there
Baby doc as in Haiti dictator or stature?
Why waste money on airplane. Unless his estate is paying from the money the deceased looted from the country, bicycle ambulance or hearse should do. Aluyeni!
Baby doc as in Haiti dictator or stature
unwise,uneconomical idea
Please
let man rest. Politicking with
dead people must end. No mercy this time on RB. He must just work hard to win elections
Imwe! kanshi ninshi making an issue of a dead thief? why waste money for taking his little body around mundeke? Bury him somewhere away from normal people, or America should toss his little body in the sea, he store enough from a lot of people, he should have prepared for his funeral. Kalileka nokuya kucheck up yamutima…..kafupi wafupika manje. All the people who died under your watch are there to meet you in your new form. Nganine malukula kuti nakapwilikisha nasando kumutwe in case kabuka. I dont feel sorry for this guy, infact i feel angry, he deserved to go to prison before dying.
This nonsense is been engineered by MMD no doubt about it. Soon we’ll hear they might as well take his body to all provinces because he was president for the all country.
THIS WEILL BE TOO COSTLY AS THE MONEY WILL BE COMING FROM THE TAX PAYERS.
i thought the living go to pay their last respect to the dead not the other way round. Economically, the travelling dead are more costly. If our chiefs really love their son then it more fitting that they come and put him to rest in Lusaka.
If he is buried in Lusaka, everytime I go there I will be F.a.r.ting on his grave….
Crazy Nubian crazy, yassass!!!! he he
pwi, pwi, pwi…pwe
He was once our leader we intrusted in. he should be flown to his people as appealed by the cheifs. honestly the flying costs cant be compare to billions the government has spent on Mwanawasa’s Mausoleum which i see to be a mistake. the money spent on the mausoleum go have sustained that child who has no sheos for school. or that mother who has not money to sustain her family. politic crap.
He was once our leader we intrusted in. he should be flown to his people as appealed by the cheifs. honestly the flying costs cant be compare to billions the government has spent on Mwanawasa’s Mausoleum which i see to be a mistake. the money spent on the mausoleum could have sustained that child who has no sheos for school. or that mother who has not money to sustain her family. politics crap.
Hmmm,guys we are tired of such nonsense. it’s cheaper to fly all the chiefs to Lusaka than to fly the dead rat together with its escort there. Why am i thinking that RB is the instigator of this nonsense?
R.I.P DOC FTMJ FREIND WL B FOUND WAITNG 4 IN…BUT DONCHI KUBEBA
They should take him to Solwezi as well he brought development in Solwezi for us to see Shoprite is because of him.
so u call shoprite development???look the roads in the very solwezi,even just the one behind ur shoprite..
Sheer waste of money, ama chiefs nabo ifyabupuba baleke atase.
This is very stupi,d idea once again. Please bury and save the money for the poor children in the country. Let’s look to the future well being on the country. Chiluba had his days. Will these chiefs bring him back to life when then see his body? Chiefs are always backward don’t listen to their ancient ideas.
This chiefs just want to come Lusaka and sleep at the lodge.In the night go out and get street girls.Chiefs don’t body view any how.E kupwa kwatabi.
What nonsense again, infact just bury the khoi khoi at kinshasa river, we dont need the disgraced small body.
Abena mushi nabo bapuba saana, instead of asking for development they are asking for a deadbody. and for it to be reported by LT, one would not be wrong to guess that its coming from the MMD (part of campaign stratergy). I hope this non-sense of request will be droped
Will MMD stand to gain or lose popularity in Luapula province by taking the body there or not? That is the only issue govt will look at when deciding to grant the chiefs request or not!!
The president should avoid this by all means to prevent confusions. Luapula is now PF strong hold and if MMD from lsk go there with the same mawala ati no PF,then blood will be shade.
Tax payers should be consulted about these extra expenses. The same taxpayers whose businesses will be negatively affected by the long 7 days national mourning are now being made to ‘fund’ this?. This is a bad joke. It would be very decent and exemplary if these Chiefs and their subjects could pass a plate among themselves and contribute towards the extra expenses their requests will create. Now, that would be a positive thing. But if these Chiefs just talk and contribute absolutely nothing and Govt accedes to these superfluous requests, then the whole trip will go down history as ‘more plunder’ of public funds. Where is common sense in this?
Let these chiefs pay for the costs involved if they want to view the midget. We need tax payers money to be used for productive activities.
The body should go to kasama then take a clockwise route to all provinces before getting to Mansa then LUsaka. 2 weeks later the general elections can be held. Thats how to mourn an ex president bane!
Well, our students say that let the chief’s wish be granted. Government should only fly his body to that province only.
Metero University. Your student’s views used to be respected now awe. What is this nonsense you are saying? Mass disenrollments next semester!
Ba#9&10, Nubian Princess you are very funny…
thats the problem with precedents. bad call to have flown lpm all around the country
Burry him at lake!
Ru.b.bish. let those chiefs travel to Lusaka. Let RB show his brains and life by saying no. Dont waste taxpayers money.
Only in Africa do chaps go parading with such titles..”Dr. Chiluba”…this Ka Titus got his masters when he was in State House instead of working he was busying flying to London to sitting for his exams at our expense ala..
If those witch-doctors are so keen to see his little corpse why don’t the fly to Lusaka on their little flying saucers that zig zag in the night sky.
Come on Chiefs, you can afford to pay for your own transportation to Lusaka or even better hire a bus to take you and your relatives to the funeral. Why do have to waste ‘billions’ on his funeral? and this habit of transporting a body all over the country is disrespectful to the deceased, where in the world has you ever heard done. This is usually reserved for notorious criminals or warlords who have been gunned down so that people can see for themselves that he was not untouchable.
This has the crookedness of RB and his minions written all over it. Filefwaya ukulyamo like they did pali Mwanawasa. We will be told later that the funeral bill was 2 Billion. Fi kelenka, twanaka nafyo.
These MMD chaps will unshamelessly milk this midget’s funeral for political points…you wait and see…once those villagers in those far corners of Zambia see Ka Chiluba’s little corpse in his bespoke Saville Street Suit…the ballot box is theirs….we Africans are so gullible especially matter of a sombre nature as this!!
Unless the body is flown to all the provinces, an act which is uneconomical, this will definitely promote regionalism.
All retiree are wainting on you at the gates to heaven with mikwapu before you finaly rest. Tell them about wage freeze
Why waste some more cash when this little piece of cccccccrrrap was alive did not visit his villege or donate his shoes or suits. Here in the states when a head of state dies, they don’t fly their body to all 52 states for body viewing, they lay them in Rotunda in the United State Capitol in DC where everyone travels to view the body. Zambia still stone age time.
And we are Africans and not whites. Our culture and norms are not those of the USA. You dont do something just because in America its done like that. Use another aguement
The “HOUR HAS COME” to celebrate this thief’s death
A dream just woke me up, elo nasantamuka! – A plane carrying Chiluba’s body to Luapula crashes. Chiluba dies again …
And the pilots parachute out unhurt as it was a ZAF plane..
CROCODILE tears.
Luapula Chiefs! Not true just some chaps who want to take some favours from MMD. Who is going to pay?
Chiluba had hsi money and he used it gto himself why ask tax payers to foot bill for empty apetites of just some masquaraders. LUAPULA CHIEFS dont want the body. They know he is dead and his relatives together with freinds will bury him period.
Let the Dead rest in peace
Ba MMD you are at it again. Just because you know that you are losing in Luapula now you are scheming of a plan to woo votes. Muli ba chankalele. Ba kabolala imwe.
The people of Luapula, through their Chiefs, are merely presenting a request to Govt. The cost of flying FTJ’s remains to Mansa is very much LESS than the cost the Govt paid when they flew a sick Michael Sata and his wife (Dr. Kaseba) for medical treatments to South Africa. The PF barbarians must sober up.
Sh**t skim another sympathy VOTE was it part of the plan da! it worked with Levy its blood on someones hands ata cheap stunt.
“Death is not the greatest loss in life. The greatest loss is what dies inside while still alive. Never surrender.”
— Tupac Shakur
Matthew 8:22 = But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” We Zambian love to mourn at the expense of productivity. Government, FAZ, everyone is calling off everything, every activity. Lazy Zambians
Am sure his met people like Penza,Paul Tembo,Lawyer Ngenda,Kafupi, Chihana and other trial lawyers he dribbled.
Flying the body to Mansa MUST be conditional. Let’s hear what Ba Regina, Ba Vera, and kids say on this one. I bet this matter must have been discussed in the past considering that Ba Chiluba has been sickly for a long time. If he has it written down in a will, people must respect that. For now let’s just mourn Ba Chiluba in peace.
Yes, I agree that flying the body to one province only will bring about regionalism. The solution to this one is that we MUST include in the yearly budget funding for flying the president’s body to the provinces should he or she die in office or out of office. This way it will be a fair game.
chiefs want the dead body of their own to be taken to luapula so people from that end can body view before burial but at whose cost? forgive them father for they know not what they are demanding for
On whose expense? This Kabolala has had stolen more than enough form us. As if not so, we are even spend on his funeral. Those chiefs are always in Lusaka taking bribes from RB and spending time shoping at Manda Hill and Arcades. Why cant they take this as one of those moments and spare part of their time for Kafupi’s funeral. Nonsense.
Let them bear the cost!!!! That’s all!!!!
i hear he was not given back his immunity, what happens then shade more light pipo
The bible emphases on doing good when you are alive. No matter what you do, taking him to Luapula, call the most powerful preacher, what ever it will be, will never change who Kabolala was. A criminal and home wrecker. Lets not be so stupid to spend too much our tax on useless thing instead of serving those who are alive and in need.
If Chief Lubunda was FTJs classmate how come he did not certify in court when our brother was being persecuted? Was afraid of consequences? Then he should just keep quiet. He failed to defend him so what is the point of what this chief is saying?
Its fine with me, thats his home. No issues
The death of Dr.Doctor Chiluba has remained a mistery. Any attems to fly the body to other places might result into other other mistireous things. Just burry Chiluba. Any attempt to use his body to luapula will impact negatively on RB.
Immunity which immunity ?:-\”
good idea the man was a son of luapula let them give us a chance to mourn him,we need to pay our last respect
Let the chiefs sponsor the trip… nilyonsefye govt, govt….
Sheer waste of funds ba chifi naimwe.
The schemez of the MMD; just brace for more. “Nubian Princes” tone down with your dangerous sense of humor.
Eh! Ba Zambia whats up? SATA and Kaseba were flown to South Africa and stayed there for many days translating into millions of kwacha. Let the ZAF Chopper take dead chiluba to his chiefs. When chiefs die at UTH they are always flown back to their villages. Ba-fi-colour you like yapping sana.
Ba -fi-colour, you call chiluba a thief, whose money did he steal? Some of you are not even in formal employment where we pay tax. In Europe, if you have no invitation card to the funeral you should not go there. Pa Zed kalilofye. VIVA William Banda and the cadres. Who so ever insulted chiluba publicly is in sheet! Just cry from your house while looking at his potrait if you have any.
iwe tombanoko this is not europe….walepa kumyenu ku europe nga amalepe yabanoko
Chiluba was head of the country.His contribution to the re-birth of Zambia as a nation are beginning to bear fruit. The results are there for all who have eyes to see and those who can’t see are being told. The People of Luapula have a right to request to pay their last respect to FTJ since he comes from that Province.
Our Chiefs should be Educated and be made aware of how expensive it would be to Fly Chiluba’s body to Luapula, as much as he is their beloved son, they can use the money to Build Schools or Clinics instead. Something they can Name after Chiluba to be remembering him.
Other suggestions if they insist and to avoid upsetting our village elders, put temporary big TV Screens at Chief Palaces, where People can come to gather for full funeral procession coverage. Utilize Technology Ba Zambia.
This is the best suggestion I’ve read sooo far. Mwalikwata amano!
# 60 MWISHO. I do not think it is wise to waste money like that. You may as well ask your chiefs to go to Lusaka. Please let them pay their expenses. #66 SHEIKH. Good advise.
He goes down in the History books to join the likes of Mobutu Setsetseko and Sani Abacha as one of Africa’s greatest kleptomaniacs!The midget should burn in hell!
Not again. The Auditor General reveal financial mismanagement during LM funeral.Imprest not retired etc!! thats Zed.
Umunthu mubi awamafye nga nalala!!!!! I can’t stand the comments on a dead even if that person was a thief.
What are TVs for? let the govenment screen the body on TV then everybody can view him on TV license.
People this is not time to hurl insults at a dead man but to reflect upon our own lives. Chiluba made mistakes yes but now he stands before his maker to give an account of his life. Even you will die one day and have to give an account of the sins that you continue to commit against God. This is time for reflection.
This is how stealing starts. Is this the reason why Shikapwasha wants donations? Twakana boss
This request makes sense. Thanks
Hhahaha, If someone you love dies, you make arrangements to go and visit the funeral house. Mwanawasa gave these chiefs cars. They must borrow money for fuel and come to lusaka, sleep at the funeral house or their subjects’ homes and mourn Chiluba instead of asking for the body. It may just rot on the way. Let us Bury the man. We are all mourning.
U sons of vipers spare us ur comments are nuseating .we are all sinners
chiluba came from my province and village.i have said it and it must be obeyed without question,i want my nephew titus tito fredrick body to be flown to his province.If the bember party and its bootlickers are against,thats their problem.thats why these bunch of F. O. O. L. S must be not be voted into power
All of you insulting the dead have you watched the heaven or hell movie,you better do.but remember God is watching you.even jesus forgave the thief on the cross,you are so hard hearted that you cant forgive this man and thats every sin you commit will not be forgiven.musiyeni muzanu bamulile
And the wages of sin is DEATH, fikala fyenu all those in support of a dead thief!!! Pabwatooooo!!!
Ku Luapula kwaliba juju, the chap might wake up!
#10 WANSEKESHA SANA. ULEFWAYA UKUNYA AMASUSHI PA MANDA YAKWA FTJ ? HA HA HA HA HA. ABANAKASHI BANOMBA ! Amasushi ya baume, iwe !!! Ha ha ha ha ha.
Nobe mune. Bushe amasushi yaba na gender?
Imwe, Mwanchinga Weekend, then you want me to fund the movement of the plane. Awe!
Kadoli No. 71, you are correct paka nema pali ce.
well as long as the chiefs and bakamushi foot the bills of flying a body to luapula.
the ideal of taking the body to luapula is not ok but let us not insult the late because we don’t the relationship he had with God before he died. God is so gracious. Am full time PF but on this one let pray for the his soul that the lord may receice him in grace.
Bad idea, full stop!! It was bad with LPM and is still a very bad one even today….those villagers should start learning how to mourn in spirit!
The majority of comments originating from PF bloggers are frightening. The sentments are proviking the people of Luapula Province with obvious consequences to their Presidential hopefu. This is PF’s hour to laugh at the dead .Note that “Chaona Muzako Chapita, Mawa Cili Pa iwe” say the Ngonis. Such cruel-minded PF cadres will live to regret. After 2011 they will gnash their teeth for FIVE YEARS, after which Sata himself will have joined the very persons he mocked (Mazoka, Mwanawasa, Chiluba).
NO to what the Chiefs are saying. Some circus. I saw my Chief (Chiti) last night on ZNBC. Is he blind? I did not like what he said. He did not appear well advised. I admire the dignity of the Litunga.
this should happen at their own expense..why should they just demand..?its cheapre they come here ..hire Juldan bus and Tekere will pay ..
this should happen at their own expense..why should they just demand..?its cheaper they come here ..hire Juldan bus and Tekere will pay ..
Are they going to pay for this?
This request can be granted if people of Luapula feel strongly about it and if the committee of ministers have the capacity to do so.
Y’all should be worrying bt getting the $46m back from wherever… Am sure these $$$$’s are sitting somewhere!!! Am sure our impoverished country needs it.
let them take the body to luapula so that they can mourn in there way
Another moving coffin?
ENOUGH’S BEEN SAID, RESPECTIFULLY LET THE HONOURABLE CHIEFS OF LUAPULA JOURNEY THEMSELVES INSTEAD PERIOD
Luapula chiefs, it is within your right to pay your reaspects to your chiluba. Just don’t ask the rest of the nation to pay for it. You pool your resources and hire a plane to bring him to you. In fact you can even have him buried thee if you so wish. Just don’t ask us to pay for it. Where will the foolishness stop? Every one who dies must be flown around the country? For what?
# 3 did someone loot from your mother’s coffers? Really?
Your mother’s coffers were looted. Where were you not to have noticed?
# 3 did someone loot from your banoko’s coffers? Really?
PF harbour a political agenda. Whatever the PF bloggers say, GRZ must seriously consider the merits & demerits of taking FTJ’s remains to Mansa as requested by Chiefs in Luapula. Govt spent lots of money to ferry Sata and his wife for medical treatment to South Africa after which Sata poured scorn on human gestures that Mwanawasa and RB displayed. But the request by Luapula Chiefs was made in good faith, and a positive Govt response will be remembered for ever. If FTJ’s body is flown and restricted to Mansa, well-wishers (business men & politicians) can harness their resources to ferry mourners from various Districts to pay their last respects to their Son in Mansa. This is a viable proposition. MHSRIP.
#99 – Your mother’s coffers were looted. Where were you not to have noticed?
A stinking thief dies and these Lumpens from Luapula want state coffers to suffer further by having him flown to Luapula, this is madness. If they want to bid farewell to their stinking thief who died of gas, let them come to his house or the morgue where he is to say bye bye.