Government has been challenged to clarify the position of Patriotic Front Secretary Winter Kabimba in government.
MMD die hard youth wing coordinator Bowman Lusambo says the nation needs to know what position Mr. Kabimba is holding instead of being subjected to speculations that he is third in the government hierarchy after republican vice president, Guy Scott.
Lusambo says it is important that governments come out in the open and state clarify Mr Kabimba’s position.
In an interview with QFM, Lusambo says if President Michael Sata has recommended that Mr. Kabimba should be third from him, the government hierarchy should be presented to parliament with clear responsibilities for each position.
He has also challenged the Law Association of Zambia (LAZ), the civil society and non governmental organizations not to sit back but question Mr. Kabimba’s purported government position.
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His position is clearly stated in the PF party constitution and he is above the ministers. Therefore all his statements and positions on policy or any matter of national interest, are the true position of this government. His salary and renumerations are indirectly paid for by the tax payer just like cadre DCs, cadre parastatal bosses, provincial political officers etc. Its all in the PF constitution – The document is indeed a true masterpiece of draconian socialist garbage that would make Stalin proud!
This is a valid point Mr. Lusambo. These appointments seem like they are to appease cadres more than anything else. Tax-payers money is not for appeasement but for developing the country
whose bowman,a canterkaras chap being used by self ordained pastor!lets ve news ba LT!coz this is too cheap & utter nonsense.take heed
Dull thinking
The problem is the MMD left the presidency with powers they are complaining against. They had a chance to listen to the civil society but chose to ignore their advice. MMD chose not to deal with the Presidential powers. Too late just submit to the CRC and let the president rule.
It is not the mmd that should be complaining but ordinary citizens. When people took time to vote for Pf they were thinking that mmd behaviour and vices would be a thing of the past. Can it hurt pf if they were a bit more transparent and the president a bit more laid back instead of wielding too much power?
Mr Kabimba is the Vice President,,,,,this is what i kn
Rubish die hard wing, are those to waste time on. Wat will the clarification benefit u? You must be productive wings not alarmist
Da men in de picture hold same position!they r all equal.
He could be the president and Ukwa is just an appointee who cts on his behalf. its donchi kubeba no one will ver know exactly what his mistry role is…..but i am very certain he is the president.
Unless PF, especially President Sata and Hon Winter Kabimba treat Zambian with much more respect and explain Hon Kabimba’s role, PF will end up like MMD and UNIP. It’s seems we are stuck in gear one ” the governement’s party.” or is it “the party – governmment. PF has so much to learn from other dying parties. Gentlemen always remember you now work for Zambians and not the other way round.
They already clarified. What more do you want? A rectal suppository?
READ DA FREAKIN PF MANIFESTO
You are right man.
Have these forever Micheal Sata critics read even the PF Manifesto? You tell them because probably we need to refresh their memories. I have a hard copy that I will be willing to share with these Sata haters. You know what, I cant even condemn the president and his party however aggrieved I am because the hatred against him makes me take sides regardless. So many things I want to castigate the PF and the government, but yet again because of so much hatred against them, I become a Zambian first and a hater second.
Lol! Coachez you indeed a shameless bigot and liar. On this thread you want to pretend you are a nationalist, on the other thread you clearly exposed your bigotry against lozis when the thread had nothing to do with the rubbish you were claiming. You must be bipolar.
yes, really I agree with the Bowman, the earlier they clarify the confusion the better. Even Civics teachers are complaining that their civic course content keep on changing every week, its time PF become serious and settle down to work. Honey moon is over, time for drama is over too, be serious. Or you have issues with your education background that you dont realise how much you are affecting many sections of life
Kabimba is the Overseer!
..on a horse, spying on you all and reporting to the Master
The Overseer indeed, the house negro so to speak
Some people who make into newspapers!? Lusambo, what is your interest in knowing hierarchy in company you don’t work?
What has donors or tuma NGOs has to do with having 3 vice-presidents and 18 ministers instead of 25?
Yes he does not work for the company but sadly ‘the company’ is his employee, they work for US (that includes you) loser. Its not a previledged infor to know the hierachy it is our RIGHT as they are the custodians of a small document called OUR CONSTITUTION, entrusted and employed by US through an ELECTION. Go back to grade 8 civics and spare us your brainless cadre nonsense!
There is time for everything. The truth is this is the time for PF, so so bapaseni mpata, give them chance also. So far so good 1. Media issues, 2. Corruption etc. GOD BLESS ZAMBIA.
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He is PF party coordinator
Look at this MMD youth wing coordinator instead of raising issues as important as Youth unemployment he is there ranting and mourning about drivel and nonsense.
LT Mr Kabimba’s first name is spelt as Wynter and not Winter, why do you make mistakes on headlines and grammar if its audio radio news feeds?
Mr Kabimba is the second-coming of Kamalondo (late of UNIP days) and by 2016 will be the break-point for PF. Pity he cant learn from Dora and William Banda. Take it easy Senior Counsel you will soon be saying “kumule Lesa panshi ba tata ba Sata”
Kabimba is the youngest top leader in PF. He has always been there for PF. He has a future in Zambian politics no doubt about it. The President has simply allowed the young man to be a general player as a Secretary General of his party to get a feel of the whole country. We should all be happy watching grow politically and otherwise. More youngmen in all political parties should be doing the same so that they give us a wider choice in voting for our leaders in future. Jealous down Lusambo.
Mbo Sam good observation. Wisdom and tact are essential even for young leaders like Kabimba, and so is learning to “listen” to alternatives and not sound like a “noisy gong”. He should take a leaf from “young” old timers like VJ, Derrick Chitala, Dora, etc who messed up their political lives
Kabimba will have a bad ending. He will regret his involvement with Sata.
What’s going on fellow Zambians? Have these forever Micheal Sata critics read even the PF Manifesto? I have a hard copy that I will be willing to share with these Sata haters. Almost every beneficiary from the MMD or tribal kangaroos would rather the PF and the country fail even it means sacrificing the reality we came from. Ladies and gentlemen, we are zambians first and just for clarification sake, I was abroad even before Mwanawasa became president. Granted, we have been given freedom of expression, but do we want our country to prosper or not. Personally, I don’t give a crap as to whether we can survive as a nuclear or extended family for we will. But what about my lozi, tonga, ngoni, mbunda, nkoya, bisa, mambwe friends, luvale, lunda, luchazi friends?
Kabimba is the House Captain or House Prefect if you will. He ensures that whatever ministers do is in line with the party manifesto. He is “big brother” over the ministers. Something like that I reckon. He is effectively a No. 3 you know.
Utter nonsense. no wonder the developed the developed world look at us like we belong to a continent without direction.Any Zambian in the right frame of their mind should question this nonsense.WHere are the laws?
Bowman, Mr. Kabimba is the CEO of the ruling party PF. He is the custodian of the policies that are being implemented by the Ministers or Government. You do not need a PhD to understand the rest.
Thanks Bro.
Its so funny how Sata wants to destroy Zambia..Chanda Chimba gave a warning but we didnt listen..We have to suffer for sometym but for me I am already looking at the Barotseland Agreement of 1964 so that i can go with my cousins. This is the mood in my province (Southern Province. We are not remaining in this Country so called Zambia.
Sata came to destroy not to build.
The youth leader must be preoccupied with youth issues. Currently UNZA lecturers are on go slow. And they have closed the library. This is insighting students indirectly to fight the battle for them through demonstrations. This is a youth issue. As UNZA students we condemn such bad strtegies. One day its their cars that will be crushed
Pf retards, please understand that there is a difference between a party position and a govt one. Our constitution only permits the president to appoint sitting members of parliament as cabinet ministers, vp or as deputy ministers. There is no place for wynter’s so called third in govt hierarchy position. It is unconstitutional. And finally my advice to cadres is get used to criticism. This goes with the territory. Any other party in govt would also face criticism. If you do not want to be criticised go into businesses. Cry babies just clean up your game
. Let your wynter concentrate on running your party. He can busy himself by initiating member registration. One wonders how you are implementing your policy of employing only trusted party members to govt and quasi govt positions.
whats the problem with this young ball and man ? thought he was a man alas he is still a kid. mr kabimba is ceo of PF, period!
Why was he seated in-between those two?? It only shows his more senior than the two
Dont forget that SATA was third to Chiluba and was minister without portfolio, may be Kabimba has been given that position which in my view will be a good position to take by H.E M.C.SATA
Sata was a member of parliament, wynter is not. Let sata first nominate him as a member of parliament and then he can give him whatever he wants. Otherwise it is unconstitutional.
It doesnt matter who Bowman is Juts clarify the issue.Simple things shouldnt be complicated.If its a clean move Sata should just clarify the issue and put a closure.It shouldnt be about personalities but issue based politics
Ati chili pamuzako chapita maba chili pali iwee, so let our PF govt work, lets work as a country not just critisizing, the MMD left with bitterness but we should put that behind and move the country forward. Bana kamba kudala ba KK 1 Zambia 1 Nation… Tiyende pamodzi
Kabimba ISN’T IN GOVT, however, he is A PARTY FUNCTIONARY OF THE PARTY IN GOVT. HE HAPPENS TO BE THE PARTY FUNCTIONARY THAT OVERSEES THAT HIS GOVT IS NOT LOSING DIRECTION & also to DIRECT THE OPERATIONS OF THE PARTY!!!!!!
these guys have really failed to perform..we really need to be saved from these thugs..
I want 2 learn from u retards if at all u ve had tym 2 read the pf manifesto?b4 u comment think in these line….has the pf distinguished government & pf party,the same pipo are there all over.4 how long wil 1 be expectd 2 perform?
Why is he wearing a red neck tie? it means he is more senior! Ladies and Gentlemen lets debate serious issues please.
Ba Guy Scottt na 50 pin kuminwe, money matter or its all about the money
If we Zambians put in as much effort as we do when we are discussing nonsense, this country would have been a better place to live in
in reality summer kambimbya is the vice, socail lesbian is deputy to summer and ukwa at the helm.what about half muntu half koswe his majest refuge from barotse land? which position does he hold now.
Party and its govt, UNIP style.
Isn’t Wynter Kabimba also on Zamtel board?
Need not worry people these are signs of things to come, no order no constitutionalism. There is no provision in our laws for Summer Kibimba to be third in command with regards to govt functions. Before we know it, it will be Kaseba four in command, the Sata Jrs and cabinet will be completely useless, no wonder there are no meetings at that level.
Zambians why are we complaining all the time PF has a constitution and the courts of law embraces that.Winter is the CEO of the ruling party only those who are managers can agree
The die hard has a point.
It is illegal for a goverment official in the range of minister, deputy, or PS or public servant to be a parastatal head or chair a parastatal board.
What is the role of Wynter in the repossed Zamtel?
If he is engaged by Zamtel, then how again is he in third position in the government of the country?
This is why the die hard wants to know, so that tricks to plunder tax payer’s money is avoided.
The public needs to know who is who so that people dont share national resources through trickery behaviour!!!
This is just protocol, it does not mean that the first lady is second in rank if she is recognized second to the president. A party secretary general plays a major role in a government like this, thus he should not seat far from the president. Protocol does not mean one now is in government, he remains just the secretary general only that the seating arrangement is changed for convenience’s sake . People of Zambia o God have mercy on us.
it is the Govt and its party… Back to the days of Kaunda and UNIP. We told you not to VOTE for these fools but you never listen. He must be a Minister with out potifolio!!!
Ukwalistic balilufya map baliyafye chiyeye we understand you are commedians bt try to pretend that u are serious coz u hav been mistakely assigned in the drivers seat controling any mistake kuti chabunda chipact tanic oh sory nichititanic mwe ala chwe