The Dannish Department of Justice rejects Zambia’s request to extradite Attan Shansonga

1. Nowerdays in Zambia ther is no dull moment at all.and very soon will are going to have a new presido .watch this space maybe GBM.

2. Ine Ndelolesha fye………….

3. Damn, Danm Damn it, there goes my Dual Citizenship up in flames. I hope the authorities will not use this case as the reason to muzzle Dual citizenship.

   I think the PF government are just being dumb about this. There is smith’s conviction in London and am sure they now know where Attan lives.

   Aren’t  there smart people in this Government that can piece those facts together and bring justice to this case without jumping on this extradition and Interpol craziness driven by one unsuccessful Zambian lawyer of all time called Wynter  Kabimba?

   Despite Attan being a British national, surely he can be prosecuted in British courts. 

   Anyway, just don’t touch my Dual Citizenship based on this case.

   • Chief,
     I am a keen follower of your contributions on this blog and more often than not your analysis and contributions are of the highest calibre. However on this one you have missed a few key points. A trial of any case can only take place in a country where the said court has jurisdiction and this will often mean the country in which the offence was committed. The Smith case which you refer to may have taken off because the Chiluba case included transactions done in the UK. Unless Attan’s offences where committed in the UK, it cannot take off.

4. I don’t believe Mr Attan Shansonga is a ‘clean’ man and he should probably have been extradited to Zed. But this case just shows how we behave as a country has wide implication in the bigger scheme of things. Zambia is not an island. All civilised countries will have doubts on sending anyone to Zambia with compromised judiciary and inept govt machinery

5. This is one big movie for sure,more pop corns please.Forget about Dual Citizenship for now till election time coz they have a reason now ,not to give us.and i do not blame them.i tell u what i would love to see how the movie(zambia) ends.

6. But even though Shansonga is a British Citizen, He is a Zambian National as well. In UK you do not revoke you original citizenship in order to become a British citizen be migration. So, Shansonga is still Zambian. Check, when did he revoke his Zambian citizenship. If not his dual citizenship should compel authorities to extradite him. A thief is a thief if its true. Just play your cards well Attan Shansonga can come and answer cases in Zambia.

   • Floyd,
     Since Zambia does not allow dual citizenship (and I pray they don’t), Attan revoked his Zambian citizenship by implication. This applies to all Zambians who have acquired another nationality.
     However the key point in this case is that any western democracy cannot extradite anyone especially a British citizen to a country with a questionable record on human right, and that includes Zambia. The current situation will make it easy for a Judge to reach that conclusion.

   • YOU ARE WRONG!!! Read YOUR CONSTITUTION!!!! Asper today, he may be born Zambian, BUT HE IS BRITISH!!!! OUR OUTDATED CONSTITUTION IS WHAT HAS ACTUALLY SAVED HIM!!!!!!!!!!

7. But even though Shansonga is a British Citizen, He is a Zambian National as well. In UK you do not revoke you original citizenship in order to become a British citizen be migration. So, Shansonga is still Zambian. Check, when did he revoke his Zambian citizenship. If not his dual citizenship should compel authorities to extradite him. A thief is a thief if its true. Just play your cards well Attan Shansonga can come and answer cases in Zambia. In fact, Britain can Revoke his citizenship if it is established that he had hidden cases when he declare innocent at the time he applied for British citizenship. He concealed his theft cases and obtained British citizenship under false pretence.

8. Scandinavia never extradite anyone to a country that has the death penalty, perhaps that could have been one of the reasons for the refusal

9. Well, well, well. A case exists today to test the legal compentecy of PF govt. My fear is the sheer pathethic incomprehensible knowledge on international issues is next to zero. At best Sata PF may declare war with Dernmark. The closest he will arrive at after sleeping over it.

10. It is so useless to even discuss dual citizenship. The fact of the matter is most Zambian who are out of Zambia have more than one citizenship. Zambia has no capacity to tell who has changed or who holds what citizenship.

    Moral of the story… cherish you foreign citizenship. Zambia has a government which is hell bent to jail anyone who opposes them….

11. Extradition is always a complex issue and the fact that he has a British citizenship made it more complex, it has nothing to do with the Zambian Government, it is becaude of the EU regulations and extradition agreements they have!!

    So there is no political amunition for anyone and Hon. ubinda was oonly being optimistic, they did their part!!

12. Let’s hear from Mr. Given Lubinda on what the next option Zambia has over this matter. For now, yes, the outcome is disappointing.

13. i am not surprised, with the stupidity that is going on in Zambia who would listen to the government’s requests. Ba PF, namufakapula!, and remember the whole wolrd is watching.

14. A government for F.O.O.Ls by F.O.O.Ls  

15. @The Engineer (Australia) I really would not go it your way of demeaning and insulting. Its not the best option even when you are so annoyed! Keep it cool, learned man! Australia is full of people you found. I do not think they would put it the way you are doing it.  I know there are opposition politics there just like in your original country Zambia. Learn not to use the waste words.  I think and trust that you can be more civil and decent than the way you are portraying yourself. Why not just discuss issues other than calling those who are not of your thinking fools. Its wrong. Raise your ball game man. 

16. Aren’t there any clever people in the PF government? We are fast losing credibility on the international scene with the Kaponyas running the show.

17. No 15

    Thank your ass you are in a civilised country… you would not be saying that if you were in Zambia

18. N0 17. Your language leaves much to be desired. I am in and out of Z and whats happening there affects me. I still beg you to use better language. See, for me the name you see is my real name, I do not hide and my language is that which I can use to discuss issues with you if we met in person. This is a global village. Australia is a day away from where I am. If you are using your home internet I can even trace you and visit you so that we meet and discuss. If I mean to get to you I can come, make no mistake. Just use good language and do not injure others unnecessarily. 

19. at least they have HH, twats

20. Ba engineer ba ku Australia learn to respect other people. Think before you speak when you said “A government for F.O.O.Ls by F.O.O.Ls ” indirect you saying you family are fools. Because the government you now call fools..rules your family(fools). just because you are ku Australia working as a spanner boy..don’t call zambians fools…be proud of your country spanner boy.

    • I can’t make sense of your comments. One can call a Govt “fools” and that does not imply that any ordinary Zambian is a fool. He is very clear that the fools are in Govt.

    • ‘For fools’ means the people who are ruled. ‘By the fool’ means the rulers.

21. Europe and America can not have it both ways. Condemn corruption by public officers as Shansonga and they keep them abroad. Shansonga is a corrupt Tonga man who should be punished to the full extent of the law. On this one I support President Sata to use any means possible to bring this criminal to book. Corrpution, corruption when we want to bring corrput people to Zambia you keep them. Go ahead and keep them.

    • Why bring in Tonga?

22. what stupid danish Muzungus !

    In western countries (except US), scound.rels have more rights than victims…
    but then political leaders wonder why extreme-right parties are so strong
    Those Muzungus are so foolish !

23. i have a Q is The Engineer (Australia) in Australia or USA?coz Lt shows the flag of the country wer you are.Floyd Chitalu i think you support Pf and am sure it takes you maybe a year to go back to zambia wer myself i always go back to zambia more than 3 times a year for work by the way a Dr .do not get me wrong i go not support bad language at all.

24. You chaps in the diaspora insult the government and Sata too much. That’s why you won’t get dual citizenship – it’s just tit-for-tat from Michael. As Diasporans be blind ambassadors and only talk good about your Country.

25. Ba Mutembo Nchinto is peace of useless… How can you be insulted like that by the Danes.

26. Ubututu pa Zed!!! THIS SAME OUTDATED CONSTITUTION THAT DENIES HIM HIS ZED CITIZENSHIP IS WHAT HAS ACTUALLY SAVED HIM!!!!! Ba sungu, they go by the book, all his lawyer had to do was provide the evidence that he was NO LONGER ZAMBIAN AS PER ZAMBIAN CONSTITUTION!!!!!! The guy is laughing all the way to London!!!!!!!!!! This was an anticipated result right from the start – whilst abana aba shenda, were rejoicing for nothing, ala isukulu lisuma sana if you can use your head!!!!!!

27. That’s the difference with whiteman’s systems they want real evidence , and the Govt couldn’t produce  much, 

28. How unonimous wrong doers can be traced: all internet users are connect by IPS, and your IPS knows you by location, your name and address as subscriber.  A simple google search can also give information about you. So make no shallow mind thinking that you are so unonimous. You can’t keep insulting others just like that, you can be traced and be held to account. Be reasonablewhen using internet. You have human rights but do not forget about those of others.

    • ANONYMOUS you mean Mr. Chitalu?

    • Keep hoping mr wise guy.

    • Whatever, as long as you understood. Communication in normal life nows no precisions.

    • Te nsoni fye isho tata?

    • I speak and write 6 languages and every one understands me. Thats all I need.

    • I will give you some applause sir for your great feats.

    • Floyd, ignore my last comment. However, on a serious note, I actually had to re-read your post on that word quite a bit to understand what you were trying to say. In case you feel offended by my posts, please forgive me.

29. i have just googled you Floyd Chitalu and now i know you.now i dare you to locate me now with my IPS. no you can not young man.hahahaha suck it

    • You can pretend. You are seeable also, even in your house, can read your newspaper with you, see what you are doing on your your computer or watch TV with you. Don’t just mess up man.

30. @Floyd Chitalu – my man use pseudo name on the blogs my man. 

    • I like that, but I have nothing to hide. I have live almost half my active lifespan and ready to die from whatever source. No apologies, and no fear.

31. Find me. I am in the Cayman Island but my flag indicates SA. I like floyd`s approach though.

    • That of trustworthiness, reliable and dependable, everywhere and every time.

32. that stupid decision irritates you ?

    Contact the Danish
    – Danish Embassy, Lusaka : lunamb AT um.dk
    – Ministry of foreign affairs of Denmark : um AT um.dk

    Those *****s will be aware of our bitterness

33. As RB would call them, Vimasilu. A straight forward case presented by incompetent lawyers. The judge says they did not satisfy the requirements for extradition, not that they did not have a case. In any case the Zambian government has always known where this thug lives and its hypocritical of the PF Boma , a few months ago Sata wanted to appoint the kingpin in the plander of Zambian resources through the ZAMTROP account to some senior position in government. Had it not been for the outcry of our people we would have had a thug in goverment.

34. Scandinavians and the entire EU protect their citizens to the fullest and never extradite, never…. especially ifya nkongole or theft! Never…. ! If Zambia wants Shasonga, they must abduct him the british style… but then the EU will blackmail Zambia through sanctions. Shasonga made a killing whilst he could and is living comfortably in the EU, has invested wisely, probably is now a member of the Employers Association and paying taxes, in short a bonafide citizen not those undesirable economic refugees on state welfare! Forget it !

35. There is no way a EU citizen will be extradited to countries like Zambia. Interestingly, of course Zambia would have done better to present its case in EU courts and have the guy prosecuted there. There are milliards of USA citizens that the US refuses to extradite to the UK, even. So, sorry no surprises there. The Eu are spot on on this one, I am afraid.

36. I pray the govt does not ask ask the Soviets on what to do about Atta !

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