Constitution technical committee to account for K95 billion

1. well said mr kabanda this is very cheap compared to what the mmd and the upnd chewed at the ncc.

2. This is what we really want.Every ngwee spent,has to be accounted for.Its good that every one is bcoming aware of watever is spent must be shared with everone.More especially public funds.

3. Indeed this will be the best Constitution Zambia has ever acheived. Viva Pf!! Viva MCS!! Donci kubeebba……….wilalilaaa aciii….!!! Any well meaningful Zambia must support this noble cause.

4. The question is why spent 90 billion on 18 people within a year when we spent 200 billion in 8 years over 200 deligates bwana..and in your case ground work say more than 90% was done.so whether you give us a budget on how you spent the money you have just legalised your stealing like your CNP

   • You ever heard of a pilot project. You want former chief justice Annel Silungwe, Dr Rodger Chongwe, Prof Patrick Mvunga and the rest of the techincal committee members to travel the country over to get the views from over 160 districts as individuals, do research, type, photocopy, fax, make phone calls, rush to put fuel in the car, go pay the bills, etc come on, get serious. There are 18 adept members with several staff members to do these chola boy errands. Their concern is read through the submissions from the 4 corners of our country and try to come up with what 73+ tribes wants. They probably in planning terms have several thousands zambians doing most of the donkey work I have mentioned. 

5. very ambitious

6. I can smell tribalism in this matter. Why should BEmbas be in the front to talk like this?????? I don’t trust the material contents of what this Bemba guy called Kabanda is saying.Hiva HH..!!! Come 2016, no Bemba President and everyone should vote for a Tonga President in HH himself. Vote UPND..!!! I HATE BEMBAS..THEY ARE ALL MONKEYS..!!!

   • you are not Tonga and stop pretending to be one u idi0t…didnt your mother teach you manners?

   • tongas are all faeces

   • You are not Tonga. You are trying to taint the image of the good Tonga People. Please stop it.

   • You can’t be tonga, because whatever your tribe, you are the *****s trying to fan hatred and instigate civil war. I am bemba you asshole and there are good tongas too including my wife. The composition of the technical committee are not bembas including former Chief Justice Annel Silungwe. My advice to you ***** is, a bemba is like a miner. Push him and he will let you push him if he believes it’s in the interest of everyone. Scratch him and then you have a problem. Most of the people purported to be bembas including chiluba where not, serve for Mwamba Luchembe who was a nephew to the late “Mutale Ngandu” mwine lubemba.

7. I hate Bembas either. They think they are more superior than any other tribe in Africa.We don’t like this. Unfornatunately, our women tend to love them more they do to us.

8. # 5, Dont bring tribalism on such important matters.bring ideas here that will develop this nation.we are not talking about Tonga’s hating Bemba’s or bemba’s hating Lozi’s.Why should you preach hatret?Be focused and reason in what you say.

9. I support you all fellow Tongas. WHY CAN’T WE ALL RISE UP ONE DAY AND K…..ALL BEMBAS SO THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE THEM IN OUR MIDST. THEY ARE A THORN IN OUR FRESH.ZAMBIA WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT BEMBAS.

   • Don’t wish for something you cant control. Don’t think we are stupid. Whether joking or not, we have started paying particular attention to this bemba hatred speech. Just know if it came to that, your sisters we have married will be the unfortunate victims and make sure you are there to face us instead of blogging from afar. Either way, we can and will find you if you instigate war.

10. What is the difference between Kunda’s led NCC and this committee led by Silungwe,they are almost the same dragging their feet for the sake of making more money in the pocket. By the end of the process they would have chewed all the monies in the Reserve Bank.Daylight robbery and a new version of corruption at it’s best by mostly Ukwa’s associates.

11. Bemba are too clever for nothing. Ba makaka..!!!

12. Bembas are too clever for nothing. Ba makaka..!!!

13. It’s my prayer that we do not end up with another Bemba in State House come 2021. I know Sata will serve two terms. But after Him it must be HH and nobody else. HH is richer than Alias Chipimo Jnr or Nevers Mumbo.HH has got over a 100,000 cows and other investments around the country. Infact he is the richest man Zambia has ever have.So he must be given chance to rule mother Zambia.

    • Let him rule the 100,000 cows. He is rich becoz he screwed us all during privatisation, so he has had his share!! Why isn’t he happy that he is ruling southern province???

    • Only in tonga and mwana musankwa. He can rule over whatever cows he has but it will not make him the president of the republic of zambia. There are more than 72 tribes and you are not even among the majority 7.

14. Some comments by some people who want to rule zambia by 2016 are worrysome Eg #5 and #8 comments shows how stupid they are these people.

15. I respect Bembas for they are more level headed than any other tribe on the Continent of Africa. Infact this Bemba tribe is amongst the most civilized tribes in the entire world.

    • @Owen, I don’t think these people espousing tribalism realise that because our forefathers faced the arab traders even if it mean’t sacrificing the entire village of men to bullets. History has foretold all there’s to be told. Ask even the Ngonis after they tried to cross chambeshi river? Except, when as a tribe you have endured the equivalent of genocide by the arabs, we are more wary about unnecessary wars and would rather talk about it. But don’t nobody mistake tolerance for stupidity. It will be a very grave mistake especially that we know and are now experiencing tribalism that we have never espoused from tribes that did not experience the killing fields as our forefathers did. Whoever is misconstruing our understanding for being stupid and cowards, is making a big mistake.

    • How can they be more civilised when all street kids are BEMBAS…evryday its NDEFWAYA UBWAFWILISHO” you will never find beggers in other provinces. how can thieves be civilised?

16. Cool down my people..!!!

17. Iye aba ba lazoo $ 19 million !

    • But the MMD spent 40 times that just to try and push a constitution through our throats. Everyone that sat on the NCC walked away with not less than a billion kwacha. Imagine half a billion dollars (500 million dollars) compared to $19 million.

      Yipushe no kuyasuka.

18. Am sure you will detail expenditures such as ZMK??? for Chairperson Justice Annel Silugwe, ZMK??? for Priest Simon Kabanda, etc so that Zambia know how much you have benefitted as a prevedged few. In all fairness, this amount is astronomical just as good as to what MMD did. Like the saying goes “Galu wamu kota sakandila pachanje.”

    • Annel Silungwe is one of the very rare Chief Justices the country has ever produced. That’s why they are telling you sir everything will be public news. Don’t question people that have already been to schools you are now attending. Compare US$500 million the NCC used to US$19 million (K95,000,000,000).

19. Hang’omba Hang’omba,
    My brother it is such statement that make UPND fall in every elections. I doubt you are Tonga or another Bemba hiding to discredit the good name of the Tonga’s. Stop tribalism it will not take you anywhere. It will end up hurting yourself. Please your brains properly for GOD’s sake.

    • that guy is neither bemba or tonga just an idi0t!

20. Of what use will this accountability be when the damage will already have been done? Especially that in Zambia, it is well known that the financial mismanagement or blatant embezlement drought out by the Auditor General’s Office is not followed with prosecution. This is useless and should not be condoned. Whether K95 billion is less than the K200 billion the MMD wasted on the excercise, it will not help to add the amount to the already lost one as it just adds to the injury.

    • you are mentally retarded……we all need development….u idi0t..

21. The process of accountability does not work that way. The auditor general is able to determine misuse because before expenditure is approved there is a budget which the breaks down how the money will be used. As far as I can recall we have been advised that this amount is not budgeted for. So against what will the AG be auditing

22. If you take into account inflation, time and the the number of people involved in the two constitution making processes, the present process is far more expensive than the MMD NCC. They have spent almost half what the MMD spent in eight years in less than a year with a smaller number of people and they are even bragging about it? The process is far from finished so the final cost may well exceed the amount spent by the previous regime. Weren’t we told that the whole process would take 90 days maximum by a deranged madala with verbal diarrhoea?

23. Someone wants their preffered candidate to rule in 2016 for whatever strange reasons like owning cows etc and intend to campaign by insulting other voters in the name of tribalism?? Is that not shooting yourself in the foot?????

24. Revolution a must for zambia.

25. I am shocked at people who are supporting what Kabanda is saying. Is it a failure to think or it is because you think this idea is a brain child of PF and hence you need to support it? Why should some people here say that at least K95B is less than what MMD spent, are such comparisons logical really? Ask yourself how much the referendum will cost. A referendum is almost like a general election. The only difference is that you will not have ballot papers for political parties. With regard to participation for the results to be varied I think at least 50% of the eligible votes ought to take part.

    This man has abandoned all his false principles for money. Look at how neat he now looks? He now has more money in his pocket and he has forgotten the poverty he was fighting for. Shame. 

    • Argon is you are condemning him without giving alternatives.  Instead of crying foul over Sata, tell us imwe bakapoli the other wise options you have. Habajabaja, tokaleya bull shit, tongaism, complaining all the time, wont work. Tell us or advise us on something instead of just what a football head in the name HH is dictating. Tukaiponona ichaichine. Wajata ngombe, wajata ngombe ata bane imwe bakolwe. You think we are cowards? Try the president for size after all, he’s a cobra. Akamisumaula ichabipisha. Don’t noboby question Micheal Sata’s will and ability. Mukalila bakoswe.  

26. WE MUST BRAND WELL WITH EACH TRIBE.IF YOU CAN’T MANAGE A DIFFERENT TRIBE OTHER YOUR OR YOUR MBUYE”S, THEN YOU ARE DULL.JUST GO BACK TO SCHOOL.THIS BEMBA- TONGA HATE SPEECH I READ MAKE ME SICK.I LOOK AT ABILITY OF AN INDIVIDUAL NOT TRIBE.IF YOU DEPEND ON TRIBE WHEN YOU LOOK FOR JOBS OR ANY OTHER CHALLENGING TASK ,PLEASE GO BACK TO YOUR VILLAGE AND BECAME A HEADMAN OR A TRIBE WITCH OR VOODOO MAN WITH TATTOOS OVER YOUR BODY OR BETTER STILL STINKING WITH HERBS.

27. i doubt that hang’omba Hangomba is tonga. he is just spreading hate. such things look simple but drove our friends in rwanda apart. lets protect our country and gaurd what we say. it could lead us to fall apart. who ever you are shame on you. i hope you repent and learn to preach love and unity. this strory has nothing to do with HH but concerns an important aspect of our society which is the constitution. lets grow up and weigh what we speak in public.

    • Sorry brother, but we get tired as bembas being criminalised. I have been to Angola, Kenya, Uganda, met tutsi and hutu’s who both became my friends, because I told them they were brothers. I am so sick of us bembas being labelled everything. Chiluba, Micheal Sata, Dr Kaunda, Dr Mwanawasa, Rupiah Banda, non of these were bembas. They just spoke a dialect that everyone understands. No bemba has ever ruled the country as the southerner tribalists purport. Civil war is never and has never been good because those places that thought they did not have, will be without nothing. Except a commando will not care less about tribal bull crap. They will protect and ensure every zambian is protected regardless of where they come from. 

28. Please. avoid tribalism in national issues. Who says Tonga , bemba whatever here? Most of these bloggers are not even Tonga or Bembas BUT illitrate Zambians who want to fan the country into bllodshed. I urge all bloggers to be careful! I am watching you guys

29. Blggers,…. Please know that the above chaps like Hang… whatever are NOT Tonga’s nor HH supporters but impersonators who are trying to taint the good name of the Tonga People and HH himself. Usually people who use names like Ha…whatever thing all Tonga’s have such names and so they use that to pretend to be Tonga’s. We are not impressed. We are not even fooled. This is an issue that does not require Tribal outbursts. Lets keep focused!!!

30. I would rather die than be  tribal!!!!!!!! God should punish anyone who is advocating and practicing tribalism.

31. This man Kabanda has become handsome now with the cash flowing.

32. What people are asking Kabanda is to tell the nation how he intend to use or is it to misuse the K98B. How can he say will shall spend the money and there after we shall be open to any audit? What nonsense is this? The audit that he is talking about one of its objective will be to determine if Kabanda would have spent the money according to the budget. This wont be possible because the committee wants to spend the money first and the budget based on how they are going to the spend the money. Where is control and accountability in this regard? How did they arrive at that figure now that they don’t seem to have a budget?

    People in this country condemn others of being corrupt but once they themselve have a chance to root they become the best rooters like Simon Kabanda. What a hypocrite?

33. Comrade Kabanda, even if you account for every ngwee, it will mean nothing if we don’t finally have a good constitution in place.
    Nothing short of a people driven constitution will be accepted.

34. Give us the budget now we want to know so we can prevent any misuse of public money. Iwe chi father dont you know that it will cost money to prosecute you coz its obvious that you will mess up. what has happen to you father, at first i thought you meant well but alas you just one of them. be lest assured though time for reckoning is coming.

35. You now look smart SIMON ka. You were dry afew months ago. Your TC has spent more than MMD did on average.

36. In the first place you should have told us how you arrived at that gigantic figure. Its nonsensical for you to only tell us after expending the monies. This country is a big Joke indeed. Simple arithmatic will show you something is wrong here. What exactly are you spending that mony on when all you are doing is secondary data collecting and summary?? There is no clear roadmap to date on the whole process and yet you were in the forefront criticising MMD with your fr bwalya then. mwasamba manje and everything is now different. 

37. #6, #7, #11 and #12 is or are not Tongas.  I agree there are devilish,satanic and tribalistic tongas and bembas, But number 6.7.11 and 12 is actually the incarnate of SATAN THE DEVIL himsel.
     
    Wise and blessed Tongas  and Bembas I pray and plead to The Almighty God that you realise that there are bloody thirsty people among you and outside your tribes who are itching to shed blood using you.
    THE ARCHANGEL says come out of them and denounce them and their tribalism.

38. At least there is accountability for public fund in Zambia now. God bless Sata & PF.

39. what happened to the 90 days slogan and dream? Easily said than done yaba! Tuchili tulidabwa! we have really wasted just too much on this constitution and I am sure the PamaFi chaps will drag their feet and chew chew and chew. Hypocrites at their best. I rest my case!

    • You are still living in utopia. The PF and MCS gave hope for zambia that you still want to continue disturbing. MCS has never been a fool and you guys have tried his patience. 90 days, the lozi treason culprits were released, the abuse of office was reintroduced, the freedom of press bill was passed. Several thousand prisoners were pardoned. The kwacha has appreciated. state funerals have been held for almost every zambian worth deserving. I don’t get it why we still want our country to fail. It’s okey to agree to disagree, but the personal hatred of MCS and the bemba clan, is gabbage.

40. Kanyakula @ #12 you are an *****, a moroon son of a biittcchh, fathered from a monkey. Your father will die from polopolo cancer.

    • you a son of a soured sperm from the dog your mother will die from chinyo cancer

41. why translate into local languages, thus villagism at its best. U cant translate certain words into local languages like Gay rights, lesbian, sex orientation,matrimonial home, death sentence etc. Anyway accounting for 95billion kwacha is not a big deal after all its not alot of money.

    • When were you born. Every word is translatable. Gay rights/lesbianism “ukufunukila ubwamba bwa kubumbwa kumo kwine ngo mwaume no mwanakashi,” Sex orientation, “ukusalapo ubuntunse pa nama over  who or what you can sleep with nangu chibokolo. Matrimonial home, why you met and married the male/woman of your hurt who is the father/mother of your kids. Death sentence, the only question I cant help you with because there’s no recourse once you are dead..

42. FU-CK all ya why this bitchiness the PF is instilling in you about tribes which super ken fought so hard to bring one Zambia One nation

43. What we need is a budget which outlines the purpose of that allocation. Waiting till all is done and dusted is simply theft as these *****s who are there to serve their Mafia Sata will not reimburse Zambia for any misuse. We are the masters, so we need to know and either approve or re do the budget. Kabanda is being arrogant, they surely have a budget not the stupid issue of TORs. Fack   

44. No 35 epolitics, I second that! Reminds me of the former Secretary a Mrs. Z who was walking is now driving a Mercedes after spending 3 years as a commissioner!

45. IS 16 000 COPIES ENOUGH FOR THE 13M POPULATION OF ZAMBIA?

46. IN THE PAST NO ONE WAS ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHATEVER MONEY OR RESOURCES THEY USED. THANKS GO TO SATA AND PF GOVT. KEEP IT UP AND LET THE SLEEPING DOGS LYE AND LIE.

47. #4, I DO RESPECT YOUR VIEWS AND YOUR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION. HOWEVER, I FOR ONE DO NOT LIKE CHEAP THINGS. CHEAP THINGS TEND TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE IN THE FINAL ANALYSIS. IF YOU THINK DRAWING UP A CONSTITUTION IS CHEAP THEN YOU MUST BE FROM PATAGONIA.

48. #41 YOU ARE VERY FUNNY. YOU MADE ME LAUGH. ALTHOUGH THERE’S NO SENSE IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, THERE’S HUMOUR IN WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

49. Simon you are a sell out..you are a Patriotic Fool!!!!

50. HAMBILWA-ABANA IS LOOKING AFTER GUEST ROOMS…YOUNG MAN TALK SENSE…FOR THE COUNTRY’S FUTURE DEAR,,,NOT KUSABAILAA ..WE NEED BETTER LEADERSHIP FOR THIS TO DEVELOP ..OTHERWISE WITH PF AND SATA WE ARE GOING BACK WARD,,VIVA OPPOSITION VIVA THE YOUTHS…VIVA ZAMBIA

51. # 38,,,Mwanamfumu is a dull PF carder..no job for him in PF govt…get back to your five senses or else SATA IS CONMAN..HE CONNED POOR PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HIM…AND YET HE DUMPED THEM…VERY CORRUPT PF LEADERS

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