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We shall hold meeting, permit or no permit – Kaingu

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Mwandi MP and MMD vice president Michael Kaingu
Mwandi MP and MMD vice president Michael Kaingu

Opposition MMD Vice President, Michael Kaingu, has threatened that the party will have its scheduled meeting tomorrow at the Livingstone central police if the police command fails to give them a go-ahead.

Speaking during a press briefing in Livingstone today, Mr Kaingu mentioned that the police were given adequate notice for the meeting to be held at Victoria Hall but that no response has since been given to the party.

He charged that what the police were doing was completely un-constitutional and unprofessional because they were getting instructions that opposition should not hold gatherings.

He has since advised civil society groups and churches to condemn the current attitude of the police towards opposition political parties.

The MMD vice president has further appealed to other opposition political parties to join in condemning what he called un-democratic tendencies by the ruling party to prevent other political parties from holding political rallies.

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57 COMMENTS

    • Bitter PF cadre !.Kaingu’s concern is good for all well meaning zambians.Zambia is a democratic state not Police State -full stop.

    • @prada,
      It is advisable to think before judging others. You say Kaingu ‘is useless and can barely control his own home’. You are saying this in reference to his daughter’s activities but you forget that she is an adult free to make her choices.

  1. @Prada, control your head! Who you decide to screw with when you’ve reached the age of consent is none of your father’s business. People like you should migrate to Afghanistan! And by the way what has an issue of constitutional rights got to do with the rubbish you’re sprouting? What the heck does “control of the state” mean? Do you lose “control of the state” simply because the opposition is meeting? Poor Africa is full of illiterates like you, and that is why the continent is forever at a standstill! Man, you’re nauseating! I have just puked!

  2. Bashi Iris, am glad that you are tasting your own bitter pill which you inverted. When you were in power this exactly what you were doing ku bena Sata, now that it is time for you to experience that you are crying like a Baby!!! ” what goes around always comes around” you dug your own ground now just fall in it…. and stop making noise. If you defy the order you will be arrested, try if you are a man enough, worthy of your salt. Fr. Frank defied orders because we had his back, now you no one has your back.

  3. @ Prada, Honorable Kaingu’s children are all well educated and disciplined. Lozi’s are not like one tribe i wont mention here.

    • Since you know better about kaingu’s children, were was Iris born and from which one of the concubines and what kamasutra genes did she embrace? she is simply following in her father’s footsteps whether he did it in the dark corners.

  4. Ba Lusakatimes why are some comments removed? especially anti MMD… publish people’s views be it anti PF or MMD. That’s the only way interactive Ideas will work and sharpen our views as a people.

  5. This business of preventing political meetings is becoming far worse than anything the MMD did to control the press. 

    • But just make sure you will accompany whoever breaks the law to the prison. It’s easier for you cracken heads to instigate commoners to demonstrate and do your donkey work and yet you disappear whenever the law appears and takes its cause. Ask the lozis and if you are manly enough as the founding fathers were, show yourself and if your aspirations are genuine, we will support you. But if you a mole who only hides when reality arrives, then go to hell. Every zambian has a right to live a** hole.

  6. When the law is eroded, be by which ever party is in gvt. It is really sad. I mourn for the law. Let there be rulers of law instead of people stifling other people. What is wrong with them holding a meeting honestly? Let people gather and come up with whatever ideas. What crime are they going to commit when they meet?
    As for other bloggers, I dont know Kaingu or his family and I dont care what they do as long as they dont hurt me or mine. If they break the law, let the law visit them. With deeds/speech, it is a free society!

  7. i have decided to post this here coz every time these tribalists at ZW MBWA brings up a tribal issue and you want to correct the falseholds these tribalists wont show your comment.

    Here are the facts.
    In Northern Province,
    Deputy PS – Eastern
    Assistant Secretary- Eastern
    Acting Chief Planner- Western
    CSO Statistician- Western
    Head Procurement- Southern
    Provincial Accountant- Eastern
    PEO- Southern
    Head Zanis-Western
    Head Personnel-Luapula
    Head Meteology- Southern and these are facts,etc,
    i wish you people who cry about development being taken to Muchinga could one day visit the place coz therez nothing in Muchinga. 21st century and wer still engulfed in tribal talk, just recently Cabinet Office apointd some! from SP to act as Chief Plana 4 Muchinga

    • Do the same for Ministerial, PS, diplomats and other appointed positions then tell us, those you have narrated are small positions and who cares about them anyway

    • #15  zemuntu: There is a saying in Kabwe, that when a man is hated in the village he will be accused of raising dust even when he stands in a pool of water. That is what ZWD does its full of hatred. Whenever i have tried also to correct something with facts they will not post it. They want something negative about the ruling party.  That’s a good move you have done. For Mwaka position should be given according to merit it must not be just because of tribe. The Pf government has people of different tribes serving Zambia in different capacities including the one’s you have mentioned. Ministerial, PS, diplomats etc Check the list then come back to the site put them there if you want.

    • Who do you want to deceive you grade4? have you ever conducted research in your life? What you have shown us is your TRIBALISTIC tenets demonstrated by PF. Give us a complete list of all people appointed into positions since sata came into power. the problem with you is that you are too tribalistic to an extent that you only know luapula, northern this muchinga thing. When others tell you that you are forming a FAMILY GOVERNMENT you say they are bitter. Zambian jobs are not for 3 provinces only. If this is not corrected PF will only get votes from the 3 provinces because they are the only beneficiaries. One term family government!

  8. WHY IS UKWA AND HIS PROMISCOUS WYNTER WORRIED AND SCARED OF UPND OR MMD HOLDING RALLIES. HE DID THIS HIMSELF AND NOBODY STOPPED HIM.

  9. Very soon we will be told you cannot have a wedding  because these pipo are scared of gatherings. The end for PF with this behaviour will be worse that it was for UNIP or MMD. People have a constitution right to hold meeting. the safety of people at such a gathering is in the hands of the conveners and if police are too busy getting bribes let them allow the meetings without police and the meetings will be safe as long as the hooligan PF cadres are not allowed to disturb 

  10. MAYBE THE COPS ARE SCARED THAT KAINGU WILL TEAR THE PERMIT. I TOTALLY AGREE WITH (IBU ) KAINGU’S KIDS ARE WELL EDUCATED IN SEX I CAN TESTIFY ON THAT.

  11. Its very obvious you people.the PF wer given all the freedom they needed whilst in opposition.Result:they formed government.These guys dont want to leave power,period.Do you even need to debate over it sure?

    • Remember Micheal Sata was imprisoned for receiving stolen vehicles, which happened to be his wife and his son’s. Get real and by the way, if he was vengeful as you *****s, he would crack down on you like half inch kafupi did on dr kaunda. Be thankful for his torelance pantu ngati avomela, azamichita kuipa. 

  12. PF should be very careful with their kolwestan behaviour. If you trample on peoples’ rights they will have no choice but resort to any means necessary, ask Madiba! PF you’re neither the Alpha nor Omega. You’re just a passing phase of a primitive tribal cabal! We won’t let you destroy Zambia with your short sighted impunity! Many a fool in Africa has done the stupi.d things you’re engaged in. Alas it has always ended in failure. It will be the same with you. Africa is the way it is because of maggots like yourselves! You’re really putting up a big stink!

  13. While I am not happy that MMD has been denied permits,  I think it is their fault because they did not want a constitution that could have reduced the president’s powers. Now they are victims of their own manipulation. As for the request that other political parties should condemn this backward move by PF, i think that it is unfair because when these things were happening to UPND these guys were quiet with very little support to their friends. Now that it is happening to them, they want everyone to come to their aid 

  14. @9, IBU

    DONT TELL ME THAT BRINING UP KIDS WHO GET INVOLVED IN MAKING PONO MOVIES IS BEING INTELLIGENT AND DISCIPLINED IN LOZI TERMS

  15. @zemuntu do this same analysis after two years. It takes take to change at every level. I am sure these guys are coming to those levels as when they people they have sent for training in Sudan come back

  16. Honorable Kaingu must hold his fire, there are always better ways to express such issues, let the politician not dare the police who are simply doing their work. He and his baby (the MMD) must just wait for response from the police and not rush. They have not answered and you simply wait, no need to threaten the police that even if they do not give the permit, you will hold your meeting, then why did you apply for the permit if you knew your position already. Calm down and just wait for that long awaited response! 

  17. lets move police HQ to state house, it will only make sense since All directives come from there? i also propose that they change the Police uniform to PF regalia as they are PF cadres.
    let PF make a law to BAN rallies and MEETINGS oh i forgot PUBLIC ORDER ACT. Very soon the PF will make a Calendar indicating the days when married people should have SEX so i hear..

  18. The police are also patiently still waiting for Mmembe’s POST to draft the letter denying you MMD permit to hold the RALLY and the REASONS be explained in the POST NEWS PAPER.
    I’m in love with your Daughter shes very Beautiful House Wife Material( don’t comment my opinion)

  19. Kaingu, you need to first sort out your personal and family issues before we can take you serious. Your daughter was caught humping on almost all the the world wide web. I hope she has not been learning from you by doing things without looking at the the repercussions. Going by your behaviour, we forgive her for she has had a terrible teacher in the name of a father.

    • Both Kabimba and Sata sould be retired on medical grounds very unhealthy individuals. dont blame Kaingu or the daughters doings but blame kabimba for having children out of wedlock at his age why should he be having unproctected sex with girls the age of his children.

    • Now you are the doctor to prescribe how fit Sata and Kabimba are. You would rather everyone looked like the baby elephant in GBM. Wishing them ill will, will not help you win the elections. Get real and embrace all other provinces, otherwise you are not going to make it. There are 73 ethnic tribes and 10 provinces that you need to convince. As for kaingu, it’s the truth. He needs to put his family business in place first before we can take him seriously. If it was in developed nations, he would have resigned on moral grounds. But I guess asking for morals from tribalists is not gonna cut it. 

  20. MMD, do you need police permit or you simply need to requisition the police to provide you with manpower for crowd control – vide Christine and Others v Attorney General. Leaf could also be taken from the English Public Order Act. Surely if police do not provide resources to assist you with your preparations, you can use your own resources and it should be perfectly in order. Why doesn’t the MMD apply for judicial in order for the nation to have another test case? Shall we stop complaining in the media and do the right things in order to move this nation forward! Note that the police could still be made liable, whether or not they provide you with security resources. Kindly take heed.

  21. Exactly what he did and his MMD a year ago has catch up with them too…………sorry that’s how it goes when you started it and will not end with you, but will have to go a long way!

  22. If opposition was good for Mr Sata then it must be good for other opposition parties. SATA set up the tone so untill he is out of office his yardstic rules. If he held public meetings without police permit why should you guys go to his Lilayi trained cadres for a permit. This circus will end only when the current crop of politicians is no more. In the meantime the mehem set by SATA reigns on. Oppisition show that rudeness is not a patent of SATA. Ask him to focuss on his promise. Fourt-Two percent vote should not mislead him into believing that all Zambian supported his deceptive tendencies.

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