Foreign Affairs Minister Given Lubinda has appealed to citizenry living in the diaspora and those intending to travel abroad to consider registering with Zambian missions in countries they are travelling to or nations they are living.
Mr Lubinda told journalists in Lusaka yesterday that it was important for his ministry to know whereabouts of Zambians abroad and where those that decided to travel out were residing.
“I should to take advantage of your interview to appeal to my fellow Zambians (that) whenever they are travelling abroad they must make it a duty to inform our representatives in those countries. It is not with the intention of policing what citizens are doing, it’s for the sake of good order.
“It is imperative for us, as the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to know where our citizens are and where they are travelling so that in case there is need for us to provide assistance to them, we may do so. It is difficult when our citizens travel abroad and we only hear about them being stranded or them being caught up in trouble,” he said.
Mr Lubinda said the other importance for Zambians travelling to other countries and especially those that chose to reside there to register with Zambian missions in those countries was that it would assist Government to come up with good policies to enable it support those living in the diaspora as well as to cultivate a relationship with them.
And Mr Lubinda said Cabinet approved that Government opens up two missions in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and South Korea in the course of next year.
“No country is an island and that is the reason why the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic and Consulate Relations provides for countries to have embassies and missions in other countries that is for us to enhance the relations amongst nations.
“It is therefore imperative for Zambia to maintain a good number of missions abroad and at the moment Zambia has decided to increase the number of missions and Cabinet approved that two missions be opened during the course of 2013,” he said.
Mr Lubinda explained Government had to that effect sent a team of officers from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Finance, among other relevant Ministries, visited Saudi Arabia and that the team had since presented him with a report on what was required to open a mission in Riyadh.
“Pretty soon I will be seeking the authority of His Excellency (President Michael Sata) for us to move into Riyadh to go and finalise the opening of a mission there.
“The second country where we are to open a mission is South Korea. You might have heard his Excellency, the President, when he was speaking in Korea that he was encouraging the Government of Korea to also consider opening a mission in Zambia,” Mr Lubinda said.
Mr Lubinda observed also that Government was considering either to reopen the mission in Libya which was closed and subsequently returning the property to Zambia last year following the turmoil that had erupted there.
He added that alternatively Government was considering opening a mission elsewhere to replace that which was closed in Libya, but that awaited Cabinet approval.
Mr Lubinda said also that besides the country being represented at ambassadorial and High Commission levels, a team in his Ministry was currently conducting a study to ascertain which countries required the appointment of Honorary Consuls to represent Zambia.
“Once they (team) have finished that exercise, I will be seeking the approval of Cabinet for us to proceed with identifying Honorary Consuls to represent Zambia in those countries where we will not have Ambassadors or High Commissioners,” he said.
For what???
Ba shi mwana imwe you think like an empty tin despite claiming to be educated and an engineer for that matter. Why always waffer even when things are straight forward. You have so much pride for nothing. I doubt whether you are what you call yourself. Please if you don’t want to register, just stay out if it, kwaata!! We mbaawa wee!!
isn’t the answer obvious to you??? so that if ur stupid butt is in trouble, you will have ur country to support/deal with you. In plain HTML words, its part of regulation which is part of protocal for any civilized country!!!
Dr. Mpo, good one! Alei vinyola engineer wa fitu mbuwa.Kekeke.
Trust me nobody will lose sleep if you in particular don’t register? You are full of negative waves, your corrupt Ala Bee is gone; get over it!!!
We are capable of looking after ourselves baba. If you want figures of who has exited and returned, ask Immigration. They should have those figures.
HH ateke??lmao, do honestly think that HH can be elected as MP in any constituecy in Lusaka, if yes which one????
Ba kick . Concertrate at the topic at hand than your rubbish hurt pathological disease for HH ******
This is very important , the reason why you are scared is because you went overseas theough dubious means … no honest citizens would object to this sound advise … no wonder you marry zungas just to have a green card or permanent residence
lol, well said Kicka55! how can hh win presidential elections if he can’t even win at a constituency level? it seems an octopus has attacked you now over this, lol.
…well creature, not even your empty insults will usher HH a.k.a Viagra into state house. Your family and clan’s future is at stake fag— Its a DEAD END! it will take more than fondling his dick or giving heads to Viagra. Get ur wide octopus cunts and dixks cleaned up if you want other tribes to vote for him!!!!!!!!!!!!! @Octopus tha fag!!
Makes sense to me, i will register tomorrow, it would help in case of difficulties.
We know where the embassies are in case of emergency. Just concentrate on delivering on those promises you and cnp made.
in case of emergency??! how on earth do you expect the embassies to assist you if you are failing to comply with these new regulations?
He is scared that he will be visited by the immigration department , i vist the US every year just to have fun i go to the UK four times in the year as a tourist … no need for me stay there because i work hard
I think this is a very good move by Lubinda and the government. But think Lubinda should give this message to people in those embassies especially the Zambian Embassy in London. They are not concerned about Zambians but just themselves. I had 11 young people who were doing an exchange and tried to make appointments for their registration because they were to stay in the UK for 4 months but my efforts were frastrated by embassy staff that those young people were not registered.
The ZDDC tried to organise a reception at the embassy but embassy staff could not agree meanwhile, the British Government organised a reception for the same young people and even when the embassy was invited, no one turned up.
Call them back. What do they think they are there for? So many people ready to work not those just fooling around.
From you comment you are agreeing to disagree, what you have said is very important but ba Lubinda has just produced empty words!!!!! wast of time :(
Arthur, you are so right, these zambians in Embasissies are so dull and primitive, i have no idea what to make of them, they forget that they are there to serve. They cause such shame to some of us who understand what it means to serve, really i think GRz should be monitoring them because they just leave them play house and dance to their own village rules, i wonder where they get them, how they give them these jobs, do they even train them well? Really if that system Lubinda is asking for has to work, then he should do something about his stuff, otherwise, it will just be talking.
They lack training.
Come Monday, I am also registering. This is good and it’s long over due.
Register where and for what?? when you are in Zed get serious my friend….
Eish,can’t quite trust these PF folks with our info given the zeal with which they went after and still go after MMD or UPND folks.They’re still terrorizing RSZ investors,they haunted LAP Green and vvery questionably dealt with the deported Rwandese priest.Don’t trust these PF sharks.
stupid terrorist!, you go to the US with this fxcked up attitude you will be treated like ya fellow Arabs!!! Infact, consider yourself lucky that you moroons are treated with some respect in Zambia! all in all dude, u Suck!!!!!!!!
@KickA55 you’re an ignorant stinkin a-hole.I’m not a fricking Arab you stupid dumbass my name is from maasai.
Kick55 is a bitter ***** hell bent on insulting everyone. His bitterness stems from his extreme marginal propensity to consume. Low household income, uneducated villager. I am not registering. My country has never done anything for me in the past, they continue to under-deliver even with regime change and I don’t expect GRZ to do anything for me in the future. Come Monday chi passport na la posa. PF we mbwa we concentrate on real issues.
He is Joking right?????????
Everything is a joke to you, when you are in the toilet you also think its joke.
Given is joking poeple, Especially that his leader is the joker from Gotham city
What assiatance are they going to give to you who has made his own effort to get where you are, when they can’t even finance the same embassies for their daily routine. In any case they don’t even have embassies in some places, where I am the representative Zambian embassy is in another country miles away!
Concentrate on improving services at embassies. Yo thinking has no substance Given. DON’T KULEMBESHA
The policy of government going by what the President thinks and says is that Zambians in the diaspora are traitors who have run away from Zambia. So what is Lubinda doing going behind his boss’ policy.
Hey I didn’t even think of that you are so right!
You my friend are very right, next thing ati after gathering those names mukonfwa fye ati u won’t be able to buy land or some crazy stunt like that ..-.
my sentiments exactly. The president has insulted, humiliated demeaned Zambians living in the diaspora. How can people trust that the information given will not be used to get back at those who register?
Concentrate on improving services at embassies. Yo thinking has no substance Given. Leave me alone. We r not even allowed 2 vote ati lembesheni. DON’T KULEMBESHA
I see nothing wrong in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs move. Other countries do the same and in case of emergencies (e.g outbreak of war etc), you can easily mobilise your citizens and evacuate them. The only problem is that there are many Zambians who go to countries that have no Zambian missions. It would be good if the minister could supply alternative missions and have them register there. Alternatively, our immigration system can be programmed to automatically send the details to the relevant mission once you register when leaving Zambia.
I support your last sentence. Why duplicating things?
Zambian Foreign Missions are manned by relatives and tribespeople of politicians. There’s nothing professional nor national about them. They are just cost centres to the national treasury. Honestly what is the point of registering with a Zambian embassy when the first question you will be asked is a rude: “What do you want?” Talk of etiquette!
What of someone like me, getting married to a British soon, do I also need to register then? I need to know
Thanks
Register! will need your info to rig elections in 2016.
Stay washing the nappies of Nick.
Nobody wants you back in Zambia.
How long has this engagement been for? 10 year engagement – it will turn out to be the longest engagement ever. Jeez when is the wedding? :(
koma mami nzelu mulibe!!! i am starting to believe what every one is saying. they are you are the dullest and the most stupid person to ever live. shut your hole for once and let those with intelligence blogg.
Malabishi!! he is joking, for what?? assistance, has it ever happened, this missions are for the Presidents relatives to Enjoy hard earned zambian money. Who is this man fooling??
10000% true we know them
One thing for sure home is home, two years ago I paid 65 euros for a new passport I have not received the new passport up to today and I have not received any news from the Germany. Why should i register for what???????????? so that they get more money from me to feed their families?????? The immigration department in Zambia knows who is where they have the statistics. JUST GIVE US THE DUE CITIZENSHIP THEN YOU WILL ALSO BENEFIT IN THE RIGHT WAY. Not amasangalaton!!!
Why does the president appoint, the IG, deputy IG, Commissioner f Police, Bank of Zambia Governor, Chief justice, ACC, ZDA the list goes own.
The president ha too much power and I do not understand why these posts are appointed by the president. Basically he appoints someone as IG, and if he feels he is not up to the job, he is not demoted but fired? Costing them their professionalism there and then?
Why don’t these bodies elect their own leaders? In UK the Treasury appoints the Bank of England, Scotland and many first world countries
I wouldn’t call Zambia a democratic country certainly
Thanks
to answer u my sister “yes Zambia has a questionable democracy”, most of her institutions r controlled by one person , the president and no wander some of u opt to stay outside the country. there is just a lot childish happening in Zambia and most Zambians support these politicians blindly. am always thrilled when i see the patriotism of citizens in many countries like America…
Good point sister
Zambia is ran like a chiefdom, all the power in the hands of one man. Zambia is still very primitive
I do not recommend saudi arabia for any relation ship because it is supporting the breaking up of Syria via its support for the rebels. They could be supporting any breakaway entities in Zambia because our systems are not smart enough to prevent them with their billions of dollars to spend in bribing people.
Ya they will support Barotse hahaha aha
I know this if off topic but I’m looking into starting my own weblog and was wondering what all is required to get set up? I’m assuming having a blog like yours would cost a pretty penny? I’m not very web savvy so I’m not 100% certain. Any recommendations or advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
No, this is meant to track us down. We will no longer blog freely. Just like mobile phones in Zambia are now to be registered with ZICTA for tracking perceived enemies of PF during talk shows. DONOT ACCEPT this st.upidity
The whole idea is to humiliate the Zambians in the diaspora. So that, your freedom will be curtailed as registering with embassies is as good as promoting the Public Order Act. Lubinda even says this will promote order. What does he mean? Friends, take care. Me I will not register, if they insist, I will renounce my citizenship. Some of us are hunted because we have opposing views on governance issues, tribal issues, Barotseland issue and many others.
Soon, they will ask for your computer numbers and location, including your offices or classes if you are a student.
This could be true, we need to be careful ka? or is it that they want to give us jobs? it could be anything ka?
The Zambian government can track anyone, anywhere if there so wish.
Your contribution to this blog has left a trail, search engines and internet providers know who you are. Ask yourself this, how does a bounty hunter track his prey?
We talking about a country with more resources than a bounty hunter.
You internet or mobile phone always leaves a trail.
@ Simms 19.2 are you aware that the Zambian Government has failed to track down the Mailon Brothers in the valley? Henry Banda is another case in point. I am sure you are a shushushu chikala
This is a typical case of “Big brother watching you”. These are the marking of a proper police state. It is an intrusion on private lives who wish to undertake private business or take a holiday in the countries they visit. It is a waste of time for the traveler, whose time is limited when she/he travels outside the country. Let it be left to the individuals to choose to visit the Embassy or High Commission in the countries that they visit. What is this government afraid of? They will start to run away from their own shadows.
An impressive share! I have just forwarded this onto a coworker who was doing a little homework on this. And he actually ordered me lunch due to the fact that I stumbled upon it for him… lol. So let me reword this…. Thank YOU for the meal!! But yeah, thanks for spending time to talk about this subject here on your site.
My foot, you are failing to look after Zambians in Zambia and you want to look after me? Zayellow fye! Please, solve the problems back home befoe you start thinking about thos outside
Tell him to f**k off, I am NOT registering. Well, I have a british passport so why bother with styopet unecessary registartions, for what?
Zambian Musician, Alubusu has died.
Mwilatina umwenso bane
you chi ‘bemba’ chap use english. stiupit
Here is a ‘Don’t ukubeba’ code breaker for those who have not yet worked out the hidden meaning in PF Govt pronouncements thus far. Simply study their trend and you will not be caught out. In the last one year this U-turner PF Govt has been in power, record shows that they do the exact opposite of what they say. So, using that same U-turn principle as guideline, when ‘honourable’ Lubinda says “It is not with the intention of policing what citizens are doing” just know that IT IS in fact with the intension of policing what citizens are doing. When he says “It’s for the sake of good order” just know that in actual fact it is NOT for the sake of good order. Once you have decoded the message in this foolproof manner, you can now make your own decision on the way forward
Imprezza let me get this right is this the guy who did the famlous “Bwela Panyumba” wanidyesa gumugumu and the like. Anyway if it’s so may his soul rest in peace. He was a good musician and entertainer and I liked his dance and big voice.
Now coming to ZaYellow I think that’s a good way of wasting time and stationery. It’s useless to register when there is nothing that the mission can do in case of calamity. Zambian missions abroad cannot be trusted under this government because they think that all of us in diaspora are against them and hammer them all the time they misfire. The idea of registering is good if the government in power can be trusted. Remember how the PamaFi Boma wanted to deny us news through The ZWD and Lusaka Times. Soon they will ask us to give them our ISP.
Zambia will do everything to get others to exploit the natural resources. Then we cry about our natural resources benefitting only foreigners. But when it comes to keeping and benefitting from human resources, it is a different matter. The GRZ must expedite the dual nationality clause. They will then see how the human resources can benefit the nation more than those stones in the gorund. But again, nothing works in our beloved Country unless it can benefit either the ruling elite or their relatives. Cry the beloved Country!
some kind of madness here or is it desperation? do you have better things to do?
Ba Lubinda,
are you in return going to allow Zambians to depart Zambia without immigration procedures?
The reason why we sign ourselves out of the Country at the ports of departure is so that you know where your citizenry are; and in collaboration with foreign immigration services, you can know where our domiciles are.
Don’t make us busy for nothing. In fact, one of the reasons why you have staff at out high commissions, embassies and foreign attaches is so that all that data should already be with the Zambian Foreign Affairs through immigration connections and the respective foreign missions.
Those people who have had to apply for passport renewals have already given their extra data required by high commissions, embassies and attaches. The trouble is that data is not used.
I am a PF sympathiser; but on this one no chance!! Firstly, remember when government changed passports; we waited and waited; no passports. We had to pay for people to organise some in Lusaka. If my embassy can fail to get me a passport, what help will it give me? No, no thanks bo Lubinda. In fact you need not make such an announcement; you could collect this information from the airport; we always say where we travel to; and you can see on our passports if we have residences abroad.
Or ask the Civil Servants under your ministry with the records from Airports and such like offices. Surely previous admins had these records, and did not trash them before they vacated offices when PF assumed power?
Lets just register naimwe
Dear Mard, what for?
Because some of us are illegal here and we have no love from the British anyway twikatane fwe ma Zambians kabili
I see your point. Yes, if you have no valid papers to be here, then it is only proper to go and register and ask for help. Good luck.
Why refuse fee car lah ahh mah tall lay. Stan yoh call mwebalekana. Chin yoh chen you fee car lah Im way. Ma can dee yen you bonse.
You are very sick! If you are abroad, one wonders what you are doing there.
Nachokolwa naiwe, tawishibe?
South Korea and not Australia?
Saudi Arabia and not Israel?
No embassy on the Caribbean but from Canada.
cowards in the diaspora…
For what for, you dull minister!?
i thought all the infomation was taken down at the airport on the day of departure…your missions here bo lubinda never help us at all,friends lose passports up to now nothing as been done,all we hear is come next week or next month.it is very sad mwandini
What do you do for us?? You come here on govt paid trips and promise us blaa, blaa. Missions are dis functional ! First clean up the staff at embassies.
I registered, went back to get a travel document for my son and the woman there asked if I was registered and I told her I was but she could not find my details so re-registered me. The staff at the Zambian High Commission in the UK are incompetent and I surely hope that the change of government has meant better service at this mission because it is both embarrassing and frustrating. I would like to ask why the need for registration because so far I have never heard anything positive about our embassy here in the UK.
You are 100% right about that office at 2 Palace Gate, Kensington.
You seem to be based in the US from your flag – are you just visiting there?
Just from most comments above, its so shocking to count how many EX-Zambians, or the rate at which people are re-signing as Zambians. I feel sorry for Lubinda.
In USA, I recommend Zambia to open atleast 6 consulates, and keep that ka embassy ku DC. But honestly, Ben Kangwa and his team are doing close to nothing there. I don’t think they even celebrated Independence from MMD, this year. Nichi tamwayapo imwe… anyway, its for you Zambians.
Instead of doing away with the old Public Order Act as they promised, PF Govt is now trying to extend it to Zambians abroad. Amazing, this has to be the mother of all U-turns. Soon PF Govt will spice it by coming up with some yarn about need for registering in order to facilitate Govt in decision making on dual citizen for Zambians living abroad. Watch this space.
Register where? My foot! They have our details thru immigration and who would like to register with useless embassies like the one in Japan which does not care about the welfare of Zambians.
Imwe, just go and register. What is your fear? Zambia is your country and you need to support our policies. Lubinda means well in this case and his pronouncement needs support
Dear Patriotic Zambian, Please clarify what fear are you on about? You question has already been answered in above blogs, i.e. what is the point in spending time and money travelling to our respective Embassies to register when the information about our whereabouts is already with Zambian Customs & immigration at the points of departure i.e. Airports, Borders?
Brabus i dont necessarily agree with you, maybe in other countries, but in europe, EU to be specific, one can move from one european country to another, if one left Zambia 10 years ago, for Germany, they can easily move to France maybe for bussiness or work, etc, without having gone back to Zambia or the embassy in one country not knowing, its possible dear, but then again you are right, My point is, things change.
Its true status change, and I have driven about from Country to Country within Schengen Countries in EU in the past in my work without having to show my passport. But as you will recall, Zambia carried out a passport updating exercise only THREE years ago. We trekked to our embassies then to register, some families even trekked back to Zambia at a huge expense to register and expedite quick acquisition of the new electronic passports. So, currently, the Govt database i.e. Customs and immigration and Embassies, is only THREE years old at the most. So, what has now prompted Govt to try make us do these costly journeys again barely THREE years down the road?
Please, our missions abroad must take the observations made by bloggers serious and change their attitudes. They are there to serve Zambians and not on holiday. I hope Lubinda is reading all these views so that he can start reforming the staff in embassies abroad by re.training them NOT retiring because PF is good at firing.
Has any Zambian embassy abroad ever helped any Zambian with a problem however small? Most staff in these embassies are very unfriendly and you have to think twice before you ever try to go there again. The reason has been given already by some bloggers, the staff are relatives of ministers. Register or not? the choice is yours.
The Americans and British and a few others are the only nations that look after their nationals well. They mobilise all resources to rescue and help their people.
Yes, and Israel.
This is yet another publicity stunt intended to hoodwink and dupe the unsuspecting people like they are actually working for their citizens. This entire government is failing to look after many Zambians living at home in Zambia and yet they are pretending like they care about those far away in the Diaspora. They don’t even know the many Zambians suffering right now in Zambia with no food, clean water, shelter and basic medical care. How about you ‘register’ those people first and attend to their needs?
Thanks but I’m actually doing much better myself. If I’m dead my adopted country will bury me. I would rather you divert resources to those who need them the most – the ones sitting with you in Zambia right now.
so true you are mate
I cant agree less.
spot on my man
Also how do you explain the fact you don’t even allow dual citizenship? You think people will volunteer to register and make it easy for them to be sent to prison? You could easily check the citizenship status of these people with the countries they live n and confirm their dual citizenship status and thus send them to jail.
Look for Bo Lubinda countries who do this actually mean it and just don’t it for cheap politicking… merely doing the “mean too” stunt isn’t good enough.
Our USA embassy could not even send me passport forms when I needed them? fake colored…..mafontini…..musela kwakaba…..Independent….UPND, MMD, PF….each term different political party. No morals, no principles…….go to angola where you come from?
Well I guess he wants to know who is out here, these chaps can never help you if you are in trouble and face challenges. If they fail to provide for those they have sent to Russia, what about those of us who are not on their budget? It is a sheer waste of time being aligned to these cadre run missions abroad. Stop appointing cadre and we may consider your intentions!
Abena Ukwa could get the list of Zambians abroad and read it in public. Bafidobo abafyashi!
hehehheheheheheh, kti na seka!
Do you want to make the “Diaspora” another constituency? Tell us the truth, and don’t say you just want to know where we are.
Yes, please help us as we are preparing for 2016 elections. HH has started campaigning when we are still trying to fulfill a few promises we made. So it will be good if we can collect your particulars including your passport size photos. Because we know you are in diaspora, we can use the data you give us to create new NRCs and VOTERS cards. This will enable your suffering brothers and sisters in Zambia to vote on your behalf. Don’t call it RIGGING, we are trying to stay in power because it will be embarrassing only one term…awe..help us.
Ha ha ha ha! 54.1, difficult to make out what he is on about. He should have kept his thoughts to himself, and ask his friends before going public with a flying imagination.
First they were registering sim cards, now they are after personal details of Zambians abroad. Typical of despotic regimes.
Dear Patriotic Zambian#47, Please clarify what fear are you on about? You question has already been answered in above blogs, i.e. what is the point in spending time and money travelling to our respective Embassies to register when the information about our whereabouts is already with Zambian Customs & immigration at the points of departure i.e. Airports, Borders?
Status change sir you have children you no longer studying you have a project in mind that’s part of the info go and register even our Lord was in accompany of his patents to register
Dear Add Value, its true status does change. But as you will recall, Zambia carried out a passport updating exercise only THREE years ago. We trekked to our embassies then to register, some families even trekked back to Zambia at a huge expense to register and expedite quick acquisition of the new electronic passports. So, currently, the Govt database i.e. Customs and immigration and Embassies, is only THREE years old at the most. So, what has now prompted Govt to try make us do these costly journeys again barely THREE years down the road?
Wait, Watch and see..lies never lasts truth lasts
apa peve mwaitaya,we aplay for visa then we get the visa from the embassy of the country where we are going ,next it must be proved by both countries TO and FROM,FULL STOP,lol :)>-
Zambians why do we oppose even good programs shame on us.We are living in a Gold fish we can not hide.I encourage you guys to register.I have done so my details are known at London Zambian office.Good move Hon Minister
Dear Add Value, Its true status change,.. But as you will recall, Zambia carried out a passport updating exercise only THREE years ago. We trekked to our embassies then to register, some families even trekked back to Zambia at a huge expense to register and expedite quick acquisition of the new electronic passports. So, currently, the Govt database i.e. Customs and immigration and Embassies, is only THREE years old at the most. So, what has now prompted Govt to try make us do these costly journeys again barely THREE years down the road?
GUYS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN AS ZAMBIANS IN DIASPORA IS TO GET ORGANIZED IN YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES. The DIASPORA MOVEMENT IS GROWING ACROSS THE CONTINENT. So LET’S MOVE FOWARD. APPOINT LEADERS IN YOUR COMMUNITIES. GET ORGANIZED GUYS !!!
I will do that when I have the time; just tell me where to sign.
Ching Chong#27, the Registration is for Zambians in diaspora. You are British…
GUNDIX #54, don’t you think that would be a good first step in diaspora voting?
Only if they outline the reasons for the proposition. The reason he has given is a non-reason.
When a policy outlines reasons, the public can then hold authorities to account.
Sata Regime #55, I am sure SIM registration will soon be appearing in a village near you before you are also caught up. This is not even Zambia’s doing. You will be lucky to fly into RSA and get a SIM card without registering it first…
Brabus #56 I am sure your embassy should be able to receive your information via email if you live outside of where they are. By the way, exit points may not accurately trail where you are at… we did such an exercise at one point in an African country where I worked and we worked very well as Zambians whenever we needed to relate information and experiences…
Dear Kalok, As you will recall, Zambia carried out a passport updating exercise only THREE years ago. We trekked to our embassies then to register, gave e-mails and everything, some families even trekked back to Zambia at a huge expense to register and expedite quick acquisition of the new electronic passports. So, currently, the Govt database i.e. Customs and immigration and Embassies, is only THREE years old at the most. So, what has now prompted Govt to try and replicate this exercise this time around, barely THREE years down the road?
If the embassy financed my migration then I will register with them.
I like the idea but would also love to be given the reason for doing so. Why do I say this? Over a year ago when renewing my passport I was asked to give my email address to the High Commission in London, which I did, but have never had any communication via email from them. People are not so naive as in the colonial days to jump every time a politian coughs. We are talking about missions where you cannot pay using debit or credit cards for the services they provide despite being surround by the best technology.
You have a point especially on the issue of application forms why not have some forms available in PDF format on the website BUT on the issue of payment I do not think its economically feasible since these embassies don’t take enough payments to justify the need for it….remember banks do charge for supply these Electronic Point of Sale (EPOS) services.
Most of the comments are an indication of how people feel about embassies and how they work. Most embassy staff look at Zambians who visit embassies as a bother. They are unapproachable. They make people feel like intruders wasting their time. People will always be suspicious of pronouncements like the one made by the minister. First make people feel that you really have their interest at heart, then maybe they will register. .
Very wise words. If the terrible experience most of us have had in dealing with these embassies is anything to go by, they first need to put professionals at these embassies, not relatives.
Ben Kangwa should see this post, he is the man incharge of the mission in the US and some countries in south america .Only time will tell. # 68 kapuso you are right. These people treat us like they write a pay check for us. When they get paid from tak payers money. A Zambian taxed in mongu, chipata, Ndola pays for their bills. And they treat us like junk. Atase
muli fipuba ba LT. why are you fond of censoring good postings at the expense of these insults you subject us to? you are fast promoting govt censorship if you dont know. fools!
Zambia, as a country has an inferior and out-dated record keeping system. Take a look at our National Registration Cards, (simply pathetic) and if anyone of you has visited the passport office, you will agree with me that it will take decades for them to retrieve some information from those records discarded along the corridors. Zambia as a country needs to invest in I.T and we will have access to all Zambians in and out of different port of entries through out the world.
Please help us, we are in panic mode as we are preparing for 2016 elections. HH has started campaigning when we are still trying to fulfill a few promises we made. So it will be good if we can collect your particulars including your passport size photos. Because we know you are in diaspora, we can use the data you give us to create new NRCs and VOTERS cards. This will enable your suffering brothers and sisters in Zambia to vote on your behalf. Don’t call it RIGGING, at least your brothers will get a few 50 pin each, we are trying to stay in power because it will be embarrassing only one term…awe..help us.
these are just mere rhetorics. how do you expect someone to register when they dont even have consulate? i work in Senegal and i have met hundreds of Zambian stranded here they have no means of getting back home and the nearest embassy is in Nigeria. innocent children broughtt here by their parents and abandoned no work nothing.
Zambian Embassies need to pull up their socks before they can even imagine of taking count or linking up with the people diaspora… for starters the ruling gov’t should cease using the embassies as a source of employment for its party cadres and start sending seasoned civil servants there; these partisan people do not bring value to the table. An embassy is a touch-point or first point of call like a company’s reception desk or website the last person you want there is a narrow-minded party cadre.
@Jay Jay #72, Yes, I agree with you 100% but, please help us as we are preparing for 2016 elections. HH has started campaigning when we are still trying to fulfill a few promises we made. So it will be good if we can collect your particulars including your passport size photos. Because we know you are in diaspora, we can use the data you give us to create new NRCs and VOTERS cards. This will enable your suffering brothers and sisters in Zambia to vote on your behalf. Don’t call it RIGGING, we are trying to stay in power because it will be embarrassing only one term…awe..help us.
I concur too.
OOH NO….@Jay Jay #72, Yes, I agree with you 100% but, please help us as we are preparing for 2016 elections. HH has started campaigning when we are still trying to fulfill a few promises we made. So it will be good if we can collect your particulars including your passport size photos. Because we know you are in diaspora, we can use the data you give us to create new NRCs and VOTERS cards. This will enable your suffering brothers and sisters in Zambia to vote on your behalf. Don’t call it RIGGING, we are trying to stay in power because it will be embarrassing only one term…awe..help us.
mwimpota mukabwela—- forget it if you think those guys at missions will come in if you have aproblem… they are only interested in their own pocket— which is typical Zedians. dont waste your time.the only reason they are doing this is that they want to take control of our lives and monitor us. dont sign up to this pf rubbish… let them sort out promises they made to our brothers and sisters back home. these incopetent tribalists
MORE JOBS FOR BEMBAS AND MORE MONEY IN THE POCKETS OF BEMBAS.
Help your government please…..we shall give you jobs. All your children will be employed in the the missions and embassies abroad.
Please my brothers and sisters ignore these disgraceful unpatriotic comments by these shameless chaps on this thread. If your foreign papers are questionable that has nothing do to with the embassy, nobody will be waiting for you there; the embassy is your home.
Iwe Hakainde Hichilema please stop posting comments pretending to be Given Lubinda; that’s very very childish of you. How can you chap be in State House if you behave like a toddler with such childish pranks; you shameless under5!!
Cosmo Mumba and GBM have accompanied the President Micheal Sata to Mufumbwe. Yaba…I am resigning as minister. We cannot have children who were insulting us last year on our campaign team.
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The Hon Minister has to put his house in order first. Many a time Zambians have died abroad and yet no support has been forth coming despite the so called Embassy register. Help has been given in some cases – depending on who leads at the Embassy not because of Zam Government policy. So what is the current policy? This president has several times been breathing on Diaspora groups shoulders particularly in the UK to give exact number of Zambians there or even London instead of asking the Embassy as they have the capacity – finance, manpower etc. Request from Hon., though sensible need to be well thought out and planned for. I am dubious especially as o/p people in UK are always snooping.
One term govt
IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME AND THIS CALL HAS BEEN LONG OVERDUE.
You chaps never cease to amaze me; you chin wag about dual citizenship this and that till the cows come home, some of us can’t enjoy a drink around you chaps because of your constant yapping and yucking; today your government asks you for a very simple request and you start seeing men in black suits and shadows where the are not supposed to be.
Can never give my details to a government to a corrupt government full of thugs. The USA government has all the information about me. I am in very safe hands of a responsible and sane system.
How many times are we going to register. When I applied for my passport I was asked to register and did so and when the passport came after a long wait they even called me to tell me that my passport was in.What has happened to those forms?.
Zambia carried out a passport updating exercise less thanTHREE years ago. We trekked to our embassies then to register, some families even trekked back to Zambia at a huge expense to register and expedite quick acquisition of the new electronic passports. So, currently, the Govt database i.e. Customs and immigration and Embassies, is only THREE years old at the most. So, what has now prompted Govt to try and replicate the exercise again barely THREE years down the road?
Nada, Just look after the Bembas , Leave us alone . at home you do not help can you help us when we are far away.
Mr Lubinda should be honest with people living in the diaspora. Opening embassies and high commissions is not meant to benefit our beloved country nor its citizenry. It is for jobs for relatives and friends of the president and his friends in government. Don’t doubt my words before you examine ALL current appointments of the government in power. If you are not known to anyone in government, forget about becoming a diplomat on merit regardless of your qualifications. A prostitute or nephew will get the job.
Much as I want to do this, I am inclined to agree with the majority of the bloggers. Until personnel at these missions are trained properly and do realise they are there to serve us, this is going to be a non starter. It took me a year and half to get my knew passport. I had to go back home on a TDI since the embassy insisted my passport was in Zambia. I went to passport office only to be told the passport had just been sent back to the USA after having received it only 10 days prior, meaning the forms were at the DC embassy for over a year and half despite calling them almost every two weeks. The people in Zambia are doing their jobs a whole lot better than these political relatives manning these embassies.
# 78 you might be right they may use our names for elections. What are the motives for this, just keeping a number for us or for the “sake of good order”. What does that statement mean ? What is he talking about?? This guy Gavin came to address Zambians in ny a month ago and in his words ” only Zambians abroad with papers matter to govt”. What kind of a statement was that? This Govt does not even have a diaspora policy in place. They dont even have an idea where to start from. Sata removed the diapora desk at state house. And yet they are talking about registration excercise. Lubinda admitted in ny that Zambian abroad don’t derserve an office in the ministry back home. That’s we are not that important!! I will be brief !!! This govt does not have a diaspora policy period.
Ruphia Banda had 2 years, Sata will clock 4 years, thats the longest he deserves. Then Lubinda 3 terms… 12 yrs. That time I think I will rejoin as Zambia.
Zedian cheap politics, Lubinda must be confused life American Gov Meat Lomney.
This is the reason why Zambian politics stinks – full of crap. Why are these lunatics after our personal details, are they preparing to give us land or treasury bills? Except for RB, over the last 48 years successful Zambian dictators have failed to engage with the diaspora. This is how despotic regimes work always spying on peoples’ freedoms. In the UK, there is metropolitan police and we shall not delay to report misuse of our personal information by the Zambian mission in the UK.
Sata regime! These mother …. Excuse my language! We send money back home. Every f…. Week !! Take care of our families home. Hospitals have no medicine. Everything is corrupt and they ask ask for our details. What kind do insanity is that. I agree with you my bro. If they had sense they would have engaged diaspora in a numeber of initiatives. They came out here, gave as fake land forms! Fake promises.
They should staff these embassies with professionals and not cadres and relatives. How do they expect people to deal with incompetents? Please clean up those embassies before making such requests
Bo Lubinda, I can actually give you an idea on how to get this information easily… most well organised countries with many Zambians have actually formed local associations and community groups with working volunteer leadership some of them have direct contact with ‘State House’ or so they claim. These organisations have a large database of most Zambians living in those countries. You could easily approach them and get that information.
Having said that I WOULD LIKE TO ISSUE A WARNING TO MY ORGANISATION: PLEASE NEVER EVER GIVE AWAY MY NAME AND OTHER DETAILS TO THE ZAMBIAN GOVERNMENT WITHOUT MY PIOR KNOWLEDGE AND/OR PERMISSION. DOING SO IS ILLEGAL WHICH I COULD SUE YOUR A$SES FOR
Maybe those who are “tribally correct” can register.
Countrymen,
Good idea,especially if your kids are born outside the country.You may find it difficult to get Zambian documents for them when you are back in Zambia if no records exist.
Bad idea,the embassy staff can use this information to track you,destroy you,give to the intelligence and so on.You become a marked man (woman) especially if you like to exercise your freedom of speech.(Criticizing PF government)
I thank you.
Future President.
PF has failed to look after the citizens whom are in Zambia what more can they offer to those outside the country with embassies filled with incompetent relatives and friends.
Fcuking dual chaps in the diaspora..just because you have not yet encountered a problem for you to see the need to register doesnt make render this call useless..but we know that when you come, we shall sort you out..
vaupuba !!
The other day it was mandatory registering with mobile phone service providers(airtel,mtn and zamtel)…nothing better to do sure or is it a secret shift to police state??????
Its wise to register with the nearest Zambian embassy when you are abroad. Embassies are there to serve us, as Zambians. I always make it a matter of priority to register with the nearest Zambian Embassy whenever I travel to some foreign country for studies. I don’t mind so much the attitude of persons manning the embassies. some are truly Zambian in politeness and courtesy, while others ni kaya. Thank you government for this initiative. As for illegals, its pointless to register, why be an illegal in a foreign country when you have home. it is also an opportunity for the government to tap on the expertise of Zambians abroad. There is too much an un utilized critical mass needed for national development out there. Guys let us register please…. Zambia nyika yesu …..
This muzungu belela is full of dobo. mbanje. We cant wait for PF to be kicked out soon. watch Mufumbwe
Probably good intention, but sounds more of a donchi kubeba kind of thing. Anyway, nothing to fear, I might register. I guess we need to be good citizens wherever we are. We are good ambasadors of our country.
Okay, Henry Banda please go and register your residence in Johannesburg. They want to know where you live ad how to abduct you back to Zambia!
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Hon Minister seems to be right but not effective. That exercise will not amount to desired results. What the ministry should do to capture data for the diaspora is to come up with programs based in Zambia which are catering to them. This way you will see floodgates opening much wider for the diaspora to engage in. Thereby, the ministry will gather information. Imagine if they came up with land empowerment everybody will be there submitting info. He knows our govt cannot help those in the diaspora per se. How many have they helped? Mr Lubinda devise a plan of home projects which provide opportunities and in that regard you will achieve what you want.
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First get rid of the riff raff you have working or playing in these embassies we all know you be put cadres there not diplomats thugs uneducated people so kindly work on that then you ll get all the support
He is right, that is what developed countries do, they have to know where you are. Even when visiting another country the embassy in that Country need to know where you are living, just in case of anything. even when you are a naturalized Citizen and you want to visit the country of origin, the embassy in that country want to know where you are , phone numbers and everything. They will even keep updating you of what is going on in that country, when you are still there through email
N# 1 you asked for what? Simple answer is to facilitate the emplyment of Sata’s and the wife’s relatives, nothing else.
Endless registrations is what these old fools are happy with , without any aim or purpose. Coutries like zambia are not capable of assisting anyone.
Ni Donchi Kubeba
Good move!
CAN THE GOVERNMENT SHOW THE QUALIFICATIONS SILVIA MASEBO’S 23 YRS OLD SON HAS WHO IS THE DEPUTY AMBASSADOR TO JAPAN?
WE ARE SO DISGUSTED WITH SOME OF THE APPOINTMENTS, SO NOW YOU WANT TO OPEN MORE EMBASSIES SO THAT YOU CAN SEND YOUR RETARDED RELATIVES THERE ON THE EXPENSE OF ELIGIBLE PEOPLE. IT’S A SHAME AND AN INSULT TO THE ACADEMICIANS.
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Most people are skeptical of this move by govt because Mr Sata has already given the impression that living in the diaspora means that you are a traitor to your country. This kind of thinking by the top official is what is scaring off people. Again try to contact any Zambian embassy / high commission on this planet, you will meet with extremely rude and unwilling officials ready to shout at you! I heard getting a travel document from high commission in Pretoria takes three weeks! I was told by an official there that my passport might take 6 to 8 months to process, after paying R710 Rands!
What assistance? Take care of the citizens that are in your house before you think of your relatives living elsewhere. If we thought you were capable of helping us we would not have left. Useless government.
Registration with embassies is a normal requirement unless you have something to hide.
I was very well received by the Zambian embassy in Brussels in February this year. The ambassador Inonge Mbikusita Lewanika even took off some time for a quick chat with me. I felt very welcome and this must be encouraged at all embassies. On the other hand been trying for years to contact the embassy in Congo. Telephone calls and hand delivered letters no response to date
Four years ago I registered at the High Commission in Pretoria. I very much doubt if that register still exists as it looked tardy at the time.
Truth is most of these missions are abolutely irrelevant, its just a way of siphoning money from taxpayers to the relatives of govt officials, so they want to appear relevant by issuing such nonsense statements like the one lubinda just made. Just think to yourself what is it that some embassy guy abroad does 8 hours a day? NOTHING. The zambians abroad are already sorted and if you really have a serious problem the embasy WILL NOT help you, its like that passports saga, most had to go back to lusaka to get newpassports, embassies totally useless. I say get rid of them.
I want my 700 Rand refund for money stolen from me by Zambian mission in Pretoria Mr Lubinda, for non existend passports that I had to pay for again in Lusaka. So just Shut the F@ck up and think of gaining some sort of credibility or respect with all these people posted above .