The Lusaka Provincial Consultative Constitution Convention, which opened on Monday, has agreed to introduce an attendance register which will be conducted in the morning and afternoon to deter delegates from absconding from sessions.
Some members of the convention observed that the number of delegates is decreasing, a situation which might leave the house with few people if measures are not put in place.
Fr Gabriel Mwanamwale, a delegate from Chongwe District, observed that some delegates are only interested in the financial gain and not the core duty to represent their various districts and sectors.
Fr Mwanamwale noted that some delegates were not present on the second day after getting their allowances for logistics which he said meant that they were only concerned with the financial gain and not the constitution.
The Catholic Priest further suggested that a register be introduced besides the normal registration forms in order to identify candidates who are skipping sessions after receiving allowances.
The clergy man observed that the trend might continue if the house pays a deaf ear on it, hence the need for the house to agree on the punishment for perpetrators.
In response to the proposal, chairperson of the convention, Fr Leonard Chiti, advised delegates to realize the trust the people they represent have bestowed on them by appointing them as delegates to such an important forum.
Fr Chiti urged all delegates to be responsible enough by ensuring that they observe punctuality and avoid absenteeism which he said is slap on the face of the people they represent.
He ruled in fovour of the proposer that a register be called in the afternoon as well but strongly urged delegates to regulate themselves.
Meanwhile, another delegate has called on the members of the Technical Committee on Drafting the Zambian Constitution not to interfere with the deliberations.
Elijah Ngwale, a delegate representing people who are blind, stated that members of the committee should allow delegates to debate freely without being ruled out or interjected.
Mr Ngwale noted that the presence of members of the technical committee might instil fear in some delegates but his fellow delegate, Charles Mumena, dispelled such sentiments, saying their presence is to explain certain terms and articles that most delegates cannot comprehend.
And Deputy Chairperson of the Technical Committee, Julius Sakala, assured the house that the committee will not in any way influence and interfere in the deliberations.
Dr Sakala stressed that his members are only in the house to offer consultancy aid if called upon and to observe how delegates are tackling clauses and articles.
The convention, which opened on Monday, has entered day two and the house has started discussing the district resolutions in their respective thematic groups.
Ten working groups have been formulated to closely look at various articles as submitted by seven districts of Lusaka province.
ZANIS
I thought everyone attending the convention was mature & responsible enough, why the register?? Thats primary school attitude and way of doing things. Makes me wonder what will come out of the convention if people just go there for allowances. This shows the selection process for those candidates was very poor
This situation is very embarassing; every meeting that you hold and people will strongly tell you that unless there is sitting allowance, they will not attend. I know of one guy from a well known NGO who some time last year registered that was attending two meetings at different venues at once!
#1 Its because we have all reached a level in our society where every government gathering is associated with corruption opportunities hence failing to mature and in turn get blinded by bureaucracy as way of check and balance….In short we no longer trust each other…Its sad that a clergy man is the one suggesting as well…Kukosa
It just shows the poor leadership we have in Zambia
Its just our mental set as a people of this nation. We now agree to disagree on anything. The ruling party and opposition parties are all to blame. They all have shaped this nation to where it is now and where it is going. Sometimes we can be so carelees, not thought enough over things we say and do. This has made this consititution and endless epsod spanning from FTJC, LPM, LBB, and now under MCS. We need to rethink our purpose in Zambia. Posterity will judge all of us.
The reason why this country is in shambles is because of the attitude of its people. Indeed that why they are easy to bribe. I think its not in our culture to take things serous even when it call for serious thought.
Constitution making process is known for people making money.How many reviews have had since independence and have succeeded?People just go their to earn free income and on one seems to care about the drain to our treasury.By the way what is happening to watchdog? I am failing to connect.
meant ,People just go there to earn free income.
ITS NOT BY REGISTER ITS BY INTEGRITY. I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE PASSIVELY GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF A REGISTER.
Thats why there is a register in the first place. What kind of an ***** are you? you must be a tonga or worse still a lozi
IN THESE PROVINCIAL GATHERINGS OF THE CONSTITUTION MAKING, AM ONLY HEARING AND READING ABOUT CATHOLIC PRIESTS, FATHERS. WHERE ARE THE CHURCH LEADERS FROM OTHER CHURCHES, LIKE UCZ, BAPTISTS, PENTECOSTALS, METHODISTS, ETC.?
Those guys are afraid of unknown may be ask them.The so called churches to much fake preachers if they differ with their wives no proper concret points come from them,so let them stay home & do baby care peto!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kabanda has become too fat with our money frm the technical committee. The former catholics priests are plundering the country wealth.
The catholic church as a whole is very happy with state of affairs as they are benefitting from the crumbs falling from state house
You are just a catholic hater
let them enjoy!!!! its not your mothers’ money iwe chi color.
All those who got money on pretext of attending a meeting while missing in action after registering, should pay back or face the law. Because doing so is obtaining money by false pretense which one could be jailed for not less than 5 years with hard labour
I hate to hear from these thieving criminals called members of the Technical Committee!
They are all corrupt criminals who have low IQs like Sata and Kabimba who reasons with their backsides.
They are not different from the lustrous prostitute (of Sata”s relative, Archbishop Tresphod Mpundu of Lusaka) Chieftainess Nkomesha Mukamambo II of the Busoli people in Chongwe district.
Nor are they different from evil Roman Catholic Organisation Bishops & Priests who are now at the forefront of condemning the constitution Road map while fully involved in the same constitution making at the same time!
**They are the same chaps who refused to participate in the constitution making under MMD which was more clear than what these satanists are making now!
CORRUPT ELEMENT OF THE WORST…
An attendance register in form of a book can easily be tempered with by some of these money hungry participants (remember even at school one could easily dodge these logbooks)…. probably let them invest in biometric technology (finger print-based attendance) like what I saw at High Court.
It ‘s fool proof and you are guaranteed these chaps will be on their tables during deliberations.
If only Dictator Satanist (machete killer man) Sata, Home Affairs Minister (Drunkard) Lungu & the most lustrous greedy evil man Minister of Injustice Wynter (June) Kabimba, can only be subjected to what Romanian Communist Dictator Nicolae Ceau?escu were subjected to on the 25 th December 1989!
Executed by a firing squad consisting of elite Romanian brave paratroop regiment soldiers: Captain Ionel Boeru, Sergeant-Major Georghin Octavian and Dorin-Marian Cirlan
If only the revolution against Sata & PF can spread to all major cities in Zambia across the country, as it happened in Romania on 22 December & in 1990 against Zambian communist UNIP Dictator Kenneth Kaunda even when the bravely soldier Lt Mwamba Luchembe rose against Kaunda’s repressive govt.
Zambians can’t tolerate this…
So it’s come to this? If someone is only there for the per diem, why are they being allowed to attend in the first place?
And in the meantime, civil society organizations that want to discuss the “people driven constitution” are being threatened with arrest by our so-called listening government if they do so. Great….
wasting time and money indeed..we demand a referendum..
Sata is the most autocratic ruler among these dictatorial government as per 2013 so far & has put Zambia among destroyed democracies in the World, as he has crippled freedom of speech & association in Zambia.
(Zambia is topping above even Zimbabwe’s human rights abuses as Mugabe has been crippled by sanctions imposed on him).
LATEST LIST OF DICTATORSHIP COUNTRIES FOR 2013.
– Zambia
– Zimbabwe
– Sudan
– Angola
– Belarus
– Cambodia
– Cameroon
– Chad
– Congo (Brazzaville)
– Equatorial Guinea
– Eritrea
– Gabon
– Swaziland
– Syria
***Zambians are crying as to when economical sanctions will be imposed on Dictator Sata & his wife & family tree members.
LATEST LIST OF REPRESSIVE DICTATORSHIP COUNTRIES FOR 2013.
– Zambia
– Zimbabwe
– Sudan
– Angola
– Belarus
– Cambodia
– Cameroon
– Congo (Brazzaville)
– Equatorial Guinea
– Eritrea
– Swaziland
– Syria
**This is Sata & Kabimba’s fault for making Zambia appear on the list of repressive dictatorship countries.
OMG! Do these guys get paid then go for sessions?
I still contend that this constitution making process is a bottomless pit, sucking much needed resources that can wipe out blind and other incapacitated people roaming the streets of Lusaka. You give no attention to these people whilst you daily splash money around to this non ending process. June 2013 the deadline is now so near and soon the constitution makers will extend to another deadline! In the name of legal this, referendum that and there they go, dribbling their way in wasting funds. 1964 to 2011 and we can’t have a constitution to live with. Newer republics did so easily and quick at less costs. If you faill then just copy and paste other nation’s constitution, you must be doing that now even if you pretend to be drafting an original one. This process is too costly for less…
Those guy have breakfast and lunch @ mulungushi conference center. some used to come in the morning eat the disappear only to reappear @ lunch time as tho they don’t have homes
ZAMBIA HAS A LOT OF MONEY TO OFFER THESE DELEGATES SO ITS USELESS TO COME UP WITH A REGISTER.SOME ONE IS TRYING TO REAP OFF THE DELEGATES.BELIEVE ME I KNOW WHAT AM TALKING ABOUT.
ONLY THE BEMBAS ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO MAKE A GOOD CONSTITUTION THAT WILL STAND THE TEST OF TIME.LONG LIVE SATA FOR BEFINET OF MOTHER ZAMBIA.I KNOW THAT MR SATA IS THE BEST PRESIDENT THIS COUNTRY WILL EVER HAVE.
TONGAS AND LOZIS ARE NOT SHARP, HENCE WILL NEVER RULE ZAMBIA.
It is a money wasting initiative, a gravy train. This is boring stuff indeed to read and contemplate. Please wind up this process so that you can fix important institutions such as the dilapidated UNZA campuses.
So rural provinces have very committed citizens who understands and attaches great importance to issues of national affairs than the city guys.
Reading from what has been said delegates of a just newly created Muchinga province were well organised than these city dwellers delegates.
Shame on u delegates of Lusaka province.
Go and learn manners being committed citizens from the rural provinces.