Government says the opposition should take the blame for the delay in completing the constitution making process.
Justice Minister Wynter Kabimba said if the opposition MPs had not resorted to the avenue of demanding for the constitution through parliament, remarkable progress in the matter would have been made.
Mr. Kabimba charged that the opposition MPs should be held accountable for causing delays to the constitution making process by engineering premature parliamentary adjournments that are disrupting the business of the house.
Addressing a media briefing at his office in Lusaka today, Mr. Kabimba said a lot of progress would have been made in the one week that opposition Movement for Multiparty Democracy (MMD) and United Party for National Development (UPND) Members of Parliament have continued to abscond parliamentary business.
“I have no doubt that we would have made remarkable progress in that one week with the constitution. They should take responsibility for the delay,” he said.
Mr. Kabimba said the rowdy behaviour of the opposition MPs was unparliamentary and was undermining the integrity of parliament as a law making institution.
He explained that to disrupt proceedings of the house was an offence under the laws of the country and that to besiege the Speaker and heckle in front of him was contemptuous.
Mr. Kabimba said he was left to wonder as to the real reason for the protests because the MPs know very well that the constitution making process was not the responsibility of the Speaker but of the executive only until when it was presented in parliament.
He charged that the opposition Members of Parliament were stealing tax payers’ money by clocking in for daily allowances and yet were absconding from representing their constituents in parliament through their continued absentia from the house.
He said it was unfortunate that the opposition Members of Parliament were deliberately lapsing their questions.
Yesterday, 20 questions were listed on the order paper and only one from Chipili PF Member of Parliament Davies Mwila was asked while 19 from opposition MPs lapsed.
He named the opposition Members of Parliament who lapsed their questions by disappearing from the house as Boyd Hamusonde for Nangoma, Villie Lombanya of Solwezi East, Brian Chitafu for Kafulafuta and Stephen Katuka for Mwinilunga.
Others are Lumezi MP Isaac Banda, Solwezi West MP Humphrey Mwanza, Gwembe MP Brian Ntundu, Lubansenshi MP Patrick Mucheleka, Senga Hill MP Kapembwa Simbao and Clive Miyanda for Mapatizya.
The Minister has since taken a swipe at people and organizations supporting the actions of the opposition MPs in the name of democracy and warned that any attempts to justify breach of laws was tantamount to promoting anarchy which will be dealt with by the law.
He has meanwhile called on society to condemn the actions of the opposition Members of Parliament because Zambian people deserve better representation.
Constitution!
You would deranged upstairs really, to disagree with Mr Kabimba
The opposition are acting silly, petty and disillusioned
I have never seen such crude and discourteous bunch that lets be honest have embarrassed not only parliament but the country as a whole. I urge you all to condemn them and allow Mr Kabimba to continue the good job he has been doing and with together with the people’s choice , the PF.
Thanks
Please delay it for another year so that we show the opposition that we are in charge, not them. Well done, make the appointment with Sata for handover in 2015.
There is something peculiar about this government; they always find someone to blame for their mismanagement of affairs in the country.
This is exactly why I decided to be rich. I don’t have to suffer mentally like Mushota nor do I have to worry like ‘Saulosi’ and ‘Actionman’…..
….all I have to do is laugh at the poor souls with their tu ma voters cards still waiting for their lives to be transformed in “90” days LOL!!!!
Oh I’m so happy!!!!
The chickens have now come home to roost ….
CON STI TU TION !!!!!
Being English or Scottish does not necessarily mean you understand the proper use of English words like “Fraud” The number of English and Scottish people who fail English language are between 30 – 45% in the UK alone.
My statement above is in connection with the use of the word “FRAUD” against the opposition MPs by two mentally challenged PF stooges;Kabimba and Guy Scott – Musungu Opusa. Which ever way you want to look at the constitution issue at hand, the real FRAUDSTERS are Sata and his PF stooges for they have overtly refused to provide tangible evidence to prove that they are willing to enact the people driven constitution. Typical of Sata and his PF stooges can’t plan with time in mind.
Sata and his PF spent people’s millions for the constitution but they are now…
All those alluding to the nonsense oozing out of Kabimba’s mouth are mentally challenged like him. They typically s.h.i.t their brains in toilet and carry S.h.i.t in their cranium (head).
How can you say those demanding the constitution are delaying the process? This is pure insanity at it’s worst. Kabimba’s message is inflaming the demand for the constitution by simply encouraging the masses to get into protest mood. If he in his shrunk brain, he thinks the demand for the constitution will go away by shifting the blame on to the opposition, he is just sh.i.tting in the plates he uses for his dinner.
WE SHALL NOT RELENT TO DEMAND FOR THE DOCUMENT WHICH WILL REDUCE PRESIDENTIAL POWERS TO STOP SATA ABUSING THEM.
Viva UPND and HH Viva MMD and Dr Mumba.
Last time I checked on the behaviour of PF when in opposion during Mwanawasa the best President Zambia will ever have, PF walked out of parly led by Guy Scott muzungu opusa in protest to the delay in enacting the constitution by MMD.
So UNIP, MMD and PF are the same chameleon just changing colours.
Therefore the only option for Zambia is UPND the party led by prudent men and women. Only UPND will deliver the constitution in no time as demanded by the people.
Last time I checked on the behaviour of PF when in opposion during Mwanawasa the best President Zambia will ever have, PF walked out of parly led by Guy Scott muzungu opusa in protest to the delay in enacting the constitution by MMD.
So UNIP, MMD and PF are the same chameleon just changing colours.
Therefore the only option for Zambia is UPND the party led by honest hard working men and women. Only UPND will deliver the constitution in no time as demanded by the people.
So this red lips malinso has started holding press conferences ee he was really scared of Gbm. I wish he just kept quiet though. Silence is golden shortie.
When PF showed the door to its 20 PM over the same docs they were right,what has gone wrong with others saying “we want our docs now”
Last week it was the technical comittee fault for delay of the constitution then this week it’s the opposition MPs then week it’s Zambia people.
Count me as deranged mr mushota. The good this is that my anti PF vote cancels out you vote. My spouses vote takes us one ahead.
look whose talking, this kabimba guy is confused, when he gets pressure within PF he say its tribalism and UPND with in katuba he says its tribalism, damnit get your head checked!!
This confused chap Kabimba is misleading and confusing Sata even more,,,, kabimba knows what was agreed on this draft constitution,,, NO NEED for this ARV confusions
Imwe! Give us 50%+1. That is were our argument is. Stop wasting our time. Even just an amendment on the election of the president will do for us. You promised 50%+1 when you thought RB couldn’t lose but now you are blaming everybody except Mposamabwe and the Freedom Statue. Yaba! You’re under the radar!
Ati Halaise Halaise in 2016
You can run but not hide Kabimba! Now you are feeling the pressure and you are blaming others for delaying the constitutional Progress. Hand over the constitution takes one 60seconds and going for a wedding in Zim takes the whole day….Who is cheating who ba Winter…….Zambian might be slow at reacting but when they act, they act decisively…..Never say you were not advised. You can
The Blame should go to all, the ruling party and opposition. Why the delay on the constitution and why can’t MP’s Answer questions?? These politicians are taking Zambians for a ride for their own benefits. It’s time Zambians should storm that parliament, kick and fish them out. We need leadership than this circus. Kabimba is back another big joker??
Iwe there was nothing for the opposition to ask regarding the constitution. Oposition MPs were warned not raise any issues in connection with the constitution until Friday after the speaker, Kabimba and Scott have recieved permission from the president.
So if the session was not about debating the road map for enacting the constitution why should the opposition expend their much treasured energy debating irrelevant things which will not force the PF to release the constitution.
The opposition members were 1000% correct in staging a SILENT protest if the matters in that particular parly session was not in their interest.
Parly had to be adjourned because the sensible UPND and MMD MPs capable of sensible debates did not participate or chose to remain mute during the session.
PF…
Does government have powers to expel these MPs? If for some reason beyond my understanding they were found wanting and expelling them was a viable action taken by government then parliament would have be dissolved and a general election called. Does anyone understand the dispensation?
Ba Kabimba twapapata do not take us for granted. The opposition have caused the delays? Are you serious? Who has custody of the document, is it the opposition? Who is the document supposed to be handed to, the opposition? No sir, if you have nothing sensible to tell us just shut the hell up! Don’t you remember, at one time you personally tried to rush the technical committee into finishing up? Was the opposition involved? Please, sir, be mindful that Zambians are not naive.
Hon W Kabimba S.C. would you believe John who points at a starving man (Jim) and says the reason he (John) has NOT given the food prepared for starving man (Jim) is because the starving man (Jim) keeps asking for the food that has already been prepared for Jim?!
Exactly!
Kabimba, listen to what we are saying- CONSTITUTION!
NO MORE delaying tactics and PF BUFI! YOU are the delay!
Too late he already is taking us for the granted either you enjoy the ride or do something to force the driver to stop the bus.
kabimba, for your health just go to hospital and take along Silvia Masebo, Malupenga and all your wives. Don’t tell us this nonsense as you are polluting the air with bad breath. Zambians want a constitution you promised in 90 days.
red lips…get real..who doesn’t want the new constitution..?its pf..
This man is full of BS. 90 days of lies and you expect well-meaning Zambians to believe the crap coming out of your mouth!
NO NEW CONSTITUTION, NO ZAMBIA.
the most dull lawyer in Africa
This is the problem when individuals are asked to defend the “undefendables”. Mr Kabimba you are not talking to kindergarten kids. If anything the opposition, despite being the majority, have been very patient with you. Even a few of us who sympathised with you have now lost patience. 2016 is only after next year mind you.
I thought I could not detest this man any more than I already do, but each time he opens his mouth – WTF! Does he actually believe the garbage that comes out of his anu.s stinking mouth? This is the kind of person who can make you rue the day ARVs were invented!
Kabimba, at time I doubted your capabilities. But now there is no need to doubt as it is all clear you have non with regards to running the institution you are heading. What has the protest of opposition MP got to do with 90days promise? Is it that they have held the days constant hence you have not attained the magic number of 90days? Or you are still shocked at the naivety of Zambians to give you a chance to rule? One wonders what your input is during cabinet meetings. No wonder HE is saying he has useless MPs.
He appointed them, approved their application to stand, so who is more useless?
Another vomit from Kabimba, what a joke of leadership… When did MPs start the protest for you to say they are the causer of the delay? Are you stupid?
The most stupid opposition in the world.Hypocrites of the worst kind.kabimba ,teach them a lesson they will never forget.
I fully agree with you.
It is the Opposition who has been hiding Constitution all this time in Kabimba’s desk top-drawer at the Ministry of Justice.
Stupid laying demagogues.
Poor Kabimba, he has been set-up by HH and 99% of the Zambians.
And Kabimba is very trustworthy chap. Just because he believes uncle Scott saying that the pigs can fly, he also believe that Zambians will believe his childish desperate explanations.
@osmore dont fight for your tummy but for the million tummies.if u and kabimba eat well,sleep well etc,it doesn’t mean every zambian is enjoying life as u are.what the opposition is doin is fighting for the masses and not their tummies.PF is fighting for their stay in office and how they need more votes from dull cadres like you to add more years for their stay in power so that by the time they come out of power they are rich.PF means POLICE FORCE and not patriotic front.
So why did you refuse to answer questions from the journalists you invited you PUNK?
Now ba PF you are making more mistakes than Rupiah Banda…Iyi yena tulewina Zambia……….50 years must make sense this year…..October around the corner, we need our Constitution…..Ba Scot do not take us back to 1964 because we know how much we suffered to be Independent.
Is this guy for real? Oh now it is the opposition’s fault that we don’t have the Constitution… are you freeking kidding me? Man I can’t believe this… it was only last week that he gave a statement justifying the delay – that statement is contrary to the reasons being advanced today.
That’s it, I really feel like this guy should just go away into oblivion and rot there. Just when I thought late Teta and G. Kunda were two of the worst kind of politicking humans, this guy just jumps out of his smoking pot and lowers the bar really low and challenges everyone to race him to the bottom without a shred of shame whatsoever. I’m convinced we are a cursed country if this what we can send to parley to represent us. Sorry for venting my spleen!
No No No brother/sister,
Do not apologize; you ‘re right on the money for getting pissed off by the blather!
These are the qualities of a Christian Nation. Sabratomakotaprodonastotaprodonastasabotamatakotamastotomasikantopromanskiyatoamanamatopradonastomanaprosta skaskababa! Amen!
Your comment represents what every genuine Zambian would say. Sad that Kabimba still thinks we are in 2011 donchi kubeba. We have moved on and time will tell.
@Marverick, you are ok my man….. These guys can make you jump off a tree….very annoying. You are very right my man , we are with you cos you are making sense. They are scared of the 50 + 1 dreaming that it is very costly!!! Costly to who? It is our money and that is the way we would like to govern ourselves….Give us our document please……
WHY IS MIKO KAINGU, GBM missing from the list of rebellious MPS ALSO NIKOLAS BANDA, FORRIE TEMBO, PONSIO , ETC
@anyoko – I thought you would be saying something to support this nonsensical rant from Kamimbya but you didn’t. Smelling the coffee. I have Gold Blend straight from Colombia. Enough is enough right?
@ Anyoko! Don’t worry about a few who are still dragging their feet….The battle is on and very soon the flame will spread like wild fire.
Bwana Minister, don’t you have any conscious in you? For Gods sake you use the bible in your ministry and for once think before you speak to the nation. Everything has limits ‘honorable’
LT I posted a reaction to Watchdog’s accusations that George Chellah deletes critical comment on President Sata’s page, but they have deleted my comments from their site as well. Please professional LT help publish my comment:
My name is Patrick Mapalo. Just as you said that George Chellah deletes critical comments on President Sata’s page, I have had my own comments deleted from Hakainde’s page and in fact I have even been removed from the comments page on his page. Even on this site most of my critical comments on Hichilema and Watchdog have been deleted, such that I even wonder if this comment will see the light of day. Therefore I wonder why you should criticize others for deleting critical postings when you do likewise on this site.
Mapalo, Mapalo, iwe Mapalo,
What is your problem? What topic are you bringing to our ears, eh Mapalo. Please spare us your problems with the Watchdog. This topic here has nothing to do with Hichilema, please mulekwata ama manners!
@mapalo
do not bring bufontein pano. sort out your defficiencies out side the lusaka times we mbushi we
landeniko fimbi wynter, 2016 wapya
On the facebook likes between Sata and Hichilema, I thought Hichilema is supposed to have more facebook likes of people wanting to listen to him since he now claims to be more popular than the President. I am sure it is not debatable that Sata during his opposition days would have had more facebook likes than even Rupiah Banda, because his (Sata) popularity was genuine and not claimed as we have now become accustomed to Hakaindes.
@Patrick Mapalo
To tell you the truth, I don’t see what your comment is about. Perhaps that’s why your comments are being deleted, don’t you think so?
@ St Jede
Poor bugger, he cannot decide in which of 73 languages to express himself and that is the reason why his comments are comment-less.
Mapalo (blessing) if only…dear friend HH is not the president of Zambia. And why should the media be concerned about fb likes? Is Sata competing for attention like Miley Cyrus? Leave HH out and we are tired with the president addressing the nation through fb it is like vinabwela mochedwa for him. He is such a backward fella it is painful.
@Patrick Mapalo
A third of people that liked Sata’s facebook page mock him. Just open any post on his page and sample 100 comments and take note of those who support him and those who don’t ( And also estimate the ones that Chellah deletes).
OK lets now compare ZWD’s likes (never advertised) to Sata’s likes (Advertised daily on ZNBC, and all the three newspapers). —– 137,232 likes to 94,100 likes
Why is this old man, aka summer, allowed to master bate on public? We can see you!!!
You P00R F00LS must listen now, we are at the end of our patience!
NO MORE LIES. NO MORE DELAYING TACTICS. NO MORE BLAMING OTHERS.
You promised a CONSTITUTION in 90 days. DELIVER. Or else!
Kabimba if you do what people want there would be no need for the Members to behave the way they did. Speaker rise to the challenge show who you are serving the people or the PF! Kabimba has no Constituency no one has ever voted for him
I thought you said the delay was because the committee wanted to hand over to you instead of the President? Now its the Opposition !!!!
Kapeya had earlier said the cabinet was studying the draft constitution and would inform the nation accordingly. Few weeks later he said the draft constitution had not yet been handed over to the president. So which draft constitution was the cabinet studying according to his first statement. I hope they did not get allowances for studying a document which they had not yet received.
Where is the committee to clear the air because I doubt that the draft constitution was not handed over to the president. Otherwise the MPs would not have acted this way if they were aware that the Committee is yet to hand over the draft constitution. Now Kabimba is blaming the opposition. Next it will be the people.
In my mind, if PF had been in opposition today, this is an action I can’t put past them. They would have made so much noise about the constitution and would certainly have caused more trouble in and out of parliament. So for me it’s a case of those who live in glass houses….. Well done opposition.
The MPs should continue to behave like this for 90 days then Kabimba and his boss can feel how zambians are feeling 90 days of pf in government kabimba please stop your silly threats you cheated the zambians and this is what you get for cheating don’t blame anyone blame yourself zambians can’t be fooled again like kaunda did now it is too late to shift the goal posts to suit you a promise is a promise keep it what delay for how long have you been in power oh sorry it is only 70 days you still got 20 days foolish me.
kabimba is a dullest party cadre and most deluded Justice Minister ever seen.He finds it suitable to blame MPs whose Silent protest only started a two days ago.Before then a coalition of NGOs, political parties and ordinary people assembled at Cathedral to demand the draft.In between we’ve seen numerous forms of demand protests anonymously by private citizens. Instead Sata chose to mock us by saying,’show me an animal driven constitution first’ also ‘Zambia already has a constitution’.So MPs’ stand-off is the next step but by no means the last resort more is coming from the street. It is the most powerful gesture seen from this crop of parliamentarians and has blessings of every Zambian.Kabimba lacks capacity to interpret the law, Leave him to bark, soon it will blow!
Lets recognise that while the MP’s stance is commendable, Paliament is the highest law making institution of the state. At this time, unthoughtful acts may threaten the very essence of peace, law and order as we know it. May I urge all people to be cautious in words and actions. Very concerned thank you.
GRZ do an assessment on this issue and stop this tit for tat and pretence. The last three months should be able to give u the accurate mood of the people on the constitution. It should also help you prepare for a final decision.
MMD should be ashamed of themselves in as far as the constitution making process is concerned, these *****s ate our tax payers money in the name of NCC and today they want to hold the PF to ransom over the same matter they lamentably failed to implement when these *****s were in power for 20yrs. As for upnd bola panshi you will also rule in 2090.
Lets quickly get beyond this tag of war between ruling and opposition parties. The constitution is a law of the land which interests every well meaning citizen. Any provocations from the opposition will simply make the leadership of the day treat you with greater scorn and contempt.
The wasted sessions of parliament you will dearly pay for. Your actions have caused yet another delay in releasing the much awaited document. Quacks
There ius no crisis yet with the constitution making process, it is not even a priority either. For me it is better to complete the rehabilitation of UTH Filter Clinic and procure more dialysis machines at the hospital, complete the roads cnnecting Isoka to Chipata, and Namwala to Choma than spending time andresources on a document that will not make a difference in anyone’s daily life. whether the PF promised early delivery of the Constitution or not is neither here nor there because the document is not a priority, full stop.
MP could have been a bit justified if they had started such demands in 2015. For now, there is no justifiable reason for such extreme reaction.
Please MPs, be the honourable people you are.
Kabimba thinks he he is the most intelligent person the most Holy and forcust person in this country , he has now Messed up PF . He has messed up PU in Bemba land yes it is true Inama yamwaice Tainona . Bashilubemba nimwe tulelolela . Every time it is Kabimba . Nomusungu wamusonko Guy scot Africa Kuti Twabelela uluse lelo teti tulabe . Umweni tepula Nkama . Be careful with Guy he has TWO countries
I hear this person has never won any case in his law career. Who is he to say opposition are delaying the constitution making process? How has the document, government or opposition? We need a new constitution for our country!
Him not winning a case is just a joke. You can check the records at the courts
Only a foolish person would say we do not need a new constitution. How long are we going to wait for the new constitution? If the government have failed to give us a new constitution after being in power for 2 and half years, then to tackle poverty, which is more difficult than the constitution is just empty words from the current government. We have so many PF MPs we voted for who now care for their own bellies, scared to stand for the people, pretending that all is okay. Hats to opposition MPs who are standing with the people. The constitution is for all Zambians. If the government has an ear let it ear. The demand for the constitution was not started by opposition, but by the people and the Church. Now the government has started fighting the people.
Bravo Honorable Minister! It is hard to deal with defiance. In many countries, defiance can be met with police brutality. However, the individuals and organizations responsible for disruption must realize that they will pay for their unlawful conduct in one way or another.
Ma dokutorate yo chitila pa online aya yavuta. This Kabimba of yours has not even won a case in court and cases are usually decided by one person what more the entire Zambia? And if he has some guts why didn’t he stand as an MP so that people of Zambia vote for him? He knows he can’t win against even a fly perhaps if there were hundreds of your kind Dr the poor fella can carry the day. What does it say about you?
Iwea Mapalo! We blogging here and we all dot use our real names in the world of blogging. Whts ur trabo??
what do you mean Dr Makasa, how do you call people wanting a constitution defiance, as promised, how do you defy what’s yours. the one to pay is the one
abusing his powers by trying to withhold what’s rightfully theirs, denting his legacy
integrity is vital, people are getting tired of lies, because they affect us in the long run and wasted time and opportunities, wasting people’s votes is not good by openly stating how you lied with 90 promises which you had no intentions of implementing.
Bonse munalumiwa na ci Muswema (Cobra) po vota. Manje poison yasila mutupi mwayamba ku ganiza? We told you!!!!
the imaturity of our dear PF Government has cost us too much. With their tongue they have decieved, with their deeds they have destroyed, with their time they have hurt us and with their arrogance they have enslaved us; They have prostituted themselves with corruption and extensive borrowing at the cost of the poor; Their ministerial clawns have danced and pranced around gaily with out-of-tune music; blaming everyone and everything they can imagine, telling lie after after lie without shame; swirling in riches like pigs playing in the mud, talkless of pearls thrown to the pigs, dressing themselves like white washed tombs drenched in a stinch of rotting flesh that will not last to 2016. Oh what cochroaches have infested our dear land… someone once sang.
The president himself has banned his ministers and mps not to discuss or talk the constitution.That is why they lost the resent biellection becouse they had nothing ttell the people about it ,constitution, which is the vote piller. How do you expect to atract voters on roads, schools, employment has there been a gorvernment that failed to do these? Talk about the constitution that no government maneged to apart from making amendments the colonial one. Zambia is not fully indipendent until we have our own it is coming tomorrow. VIVA the useful Mps
Patrick. Matibini is most useless inept speaker of our national assembly. He a shameless pf cadre who has betrayed his professional for money.
Oh what cocroaches have infested our dear land… someone once sang.
the imaturity of our dear PF Government has cost us too much. They have prostituted themselves with corruption and extensive borrowing at the cost of the poor; Their ministerial clawns have danced and pranced around gaily with out-of-tune music; blaming everyone and everything they can imagine, telling lie after after lie without shame; swirling in riches like pigs playing in the mud, talkless of pearls thrown to the pigs, dressing themselves like white washed tombs drenched in a stinch of rotting flesh that will not last to 2016. With their tongue they have decieved, with their deeds they have destroyed, with their time they have hurt us and with their arrogance they have enslaved us;
PF now crying foul!
Poor Fellows! This is only the beginning of their sorrows!