By Hjoe Moono
It made interesting yet sad reading to hear republican Vice-President, Dr. Guy Scot, MP, claim that a ‘Tribal Minority of the South of the Country’ is campaigning on the basis of President Sata’s perceived ill health and hope to win the 2016 general elections. That a republican vice-president of Scottish Origin, the minutest of minorities in Zambia and in cabinet could confidently speak to the entire world and assign a portion of indigenous people of Zambia as a ‘Tribal Minority’ is rather very unfortunate, strange, archaic, and derogatory, and has no place in modern day Zambia.
If Mr. Scot were in England as Deputy Prime Minister and issues such sentiments to the Scots who want independence, and label them as a ‘Small Tribe from the North’, I doubt he would be in government the next day. But I guess this is Zambia, where people are insulted left right and centre by one that holds no strong constituency of national governance, and we just sit there? Allowing the likes of Guy Scot to get away with such derogatory language leaves me wondering what our 50 years of independence is all about. It is shameful. I am ashamed of having a vice-president of the calibre of Dr. Scot, who seems to be failing to coordinate his governance mental faculties.
One wonders what the president’s health or holiday in Israel has to do with Guy’s Scot’ tribal derogatory. Clearly, we see a man here who is failing to coordinate his thoughts, and it seems the ‘small tribe from the south’ is on his head, for God knows what.
Yes, let us accept, that post Chiluba, Zambians have voted on tribal lines, and this is very unfortunate. Guy Scot was Minister under Chiluba, when the same ‘small tribe from the south’ gave the MMD resounding support even when Chiluba did not originate from there. But today, Guy Scot is caught up in a web of extreme tribalism in his party, and being a dummy vice-president he is without any power of a deputy, he sees it fit to use derogatory language to a constituency that supported the PF, to a group of indigenous Zambians that, like many other, only want a decent living, and look up to Guy Scot and his government, but alas, what do they get?
Indeed, I am worried and extremely disturbed that in this 21st Century people still vote on tribal lines. Guy Scot’s ‘Small Tribe from the South’ are not the only ones at fault. Strangely, the PF have MPs and other elected officials from this small group. Like those of many groups, this ‘small group from the south’ seem to be so uncompromisingly loyal to their kinsmen, just as the north, east, west etc is to its men- the whole world knows that.
But that all this is happening in 21st Century is very alarming and extremely dangerous.
But what is more dangerous is when you have the likes of Dr. Scot sowing seeds of tribal hatred, yet one would have expected him to be neutral owing to his ‘insignificance indigeneity’ in Zambia. At this point, I question heavily Dr. Scot’s allegiance to our country, and I ask the question, whose interests is he representing?
The tribal politics must end – the sooner, the better. Those in power have the invaluable opportunity to unite the country on its perceive tribal differences, and as such, we must not allow dummy leaders like Guy Scot sow seeds of division in our country.
The PF is made up of MPs and supporters from all parts of the country, irrespective of tribe. Guy’s Scot’ kinsmen, perhaps whom he can argue as the ‘large majority from the North of Britain’ cannot and did not make the PF win. The PF won because the ‘small minority tribes of Zambia’ got together and elected Mr. Sata. The sooner he gets that through his head and appreciates the diversity yet reinforcing support of our nation when voting for leaders, the better for him and his party.
Furthermore, Zambians want to hear all politicians speak out openly against tribal politics. It seems Guy Scot thinks that pitching one tribe against another can win him and his party a lot of votes in the next elections. But that has never worked, unless he suffers from political dementia he would easily recall how Mr. Sata went round speaking every region’s language during his campaigns. It is unity in diversity, or a promise of such, that Zambia needs.
If we don’t speak against tribal politics, a political mad cow will one day decide to call on his supporters to pick up machetes and hack off the limbs of his opponents in another tribe. Dr. Scot’s recent sentiments are clearly early signs of such a political mad cow, and this must be stopped by all peace loving and united Zambians.
Finally as a sign of maturity and all-encompassing leadership, Guy Scot would do well to retract such tribal sentiments, or avoid such gaffes in future interviews, and focus on bringing together the small perceived tribes.
But he was right.The tri-bal minorities(tonga`s) have being fighting to come to power using their mouth piece(Zambian watchdog).Who doesnt know that Zambian watchdog is owned and run by tonga`s (Hamasaka and Loyd) ? ZWD(a tonga publication) has been in the forefront of spreading lies and other propaganda.The truth hurts.
List the lies from the Zambian Watchdog to qualify your statement. Example for you, the Watchdog lied on Saturday that Sata had sneaked out of the country…
What you are saying is nonsense.
Yes tonga’s are a minority and they think they can rule by just winning in southern province only.So much for a regional party.
Tonga tribe is not a Minority tribe but the second largest tribe. CIA website has the demographics broken down for Zambia. Anyhow that is beside the point Zambia needs Political leaders who unite the country and not bring divisions. Zero tolerance to tribalism. Ethnic groups:Bemba 21%, Tonga 13.6%, Chewa 7.4%, Lozi 5.7%, Nsenga 5.3%, Tumbuka 4.4%, Ngoni 4%, Lala 3.1%, Kaonde 2.9%, Namwanga 2.8%, Lunda (north Western) 2.6%, Mambwe 2.5%, Luvale 2.2%, Lamba 2.1%, Ushi 1.9%, Lenje 1.6%, Bisa 1.6%, Mbunda 1.2%, other 13.8%, unspecified 0.4% (2010 est.)
tell them bwana nice one
Yes Tonga’s are taking it personal using tribesmen Lloyd Himambo,Zgambo and Clayson Hamasaka at ZWD.90 % of the bloggers there are Tonga.No wonder UPND will never rule too much campaigning using the tribe card.
Funny how even the writer is Tonga….It just confirms & sums it up.Hard luck the minority of the South.Its not VP’s fault & you can’t blame God neither for that.
Tonga’s are tribal and that is the truth.I worked at Mazabuka general hospital and that made me realize how tribal these people are.I couldn’t even handle some patients because I was bemba.I had few friends even among workmates because I was not considered one of them.
From today all Tonga deputy ministers in pf must be fired from government and all Tonga spouses of Bemba should be divorced.
Lungowe , you are the first to comment but your English sucks! Look at what this Tonga Bull has written. For real Education in Zambia was first established in the Southern province. I am proud to be Tonga and extremely educated but humble.
No one should be judged by tribe but by character.
Folks
If you want us to compare notes and argue on tribal lines then here are some facts you can not ignore;
KK identified himself amongst the Bembas, see how Zambia was ravaged.
Chiluba is Bemba see how he almost destroyed Zambia.
Mwanawasa is a Tonga (bantu botatwe) see how he brought back Zambia from the brink of total collapse and improved the economy tremendously.
Band is Ngoni from the East see how he maintained 90% of Mwanawasa’s legacy.
Sata is Bemba, see how he has ensured that Zambia is run like a Banana republic,rampant tribalism ,no rule of law, corruption and lies are the order of the day.
To be honest the Bemba leaders have spoiled it for the Bembas. I don’t think Zambians will ever trust a Bemba if this open tribalism orchestrated by Gay Scrotum is…
Oh 1 more
Guy Scott ‘s parents treated Zambians like slaves and likened them to monkeys. How sad! And PF decide to make one f00lish old man spewing of utter nonsense a vice president.
Guy Scott should be deported back to Scotland so that he can try his divisive politics in Scotland his home country and see if they will put up with such stupidity.
Scott, when did you kind become the majority in this country? How dare you accuse everyone from that region of not being part of the government? Is it that you want the people of that region to be treated differently. Just go back to you UK
Running away from tribalism in Britain, he only sees tribe in Zambia.
YES, tongas are traibalists by nature. atleast Sata was campaigned by a lozi in bwinjifumu but watchdog is purely tonga and for the tongas.
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Zambian President Michael Sata was receiving medical treatment in Israel on Thursday, an Israeli official said without elaborating on his condition.
The disclosure came a day after Zambian Vice President Guy Scott told parliament in Lusaka that Sata, 76, was in Israel on a “working holiday”.
“(Sata) is here on a private visit and he is receiving medical treatment,” the Israeli official said. “He did not come to lie on a beach.”
And you Sata has shown the true sign of tribalism, just look at the foreign civil service to understand.
He was specifically referring to Zambian watchdog which the tonga’s are using to support their tribesman Hakainde.The only page where people with other views are blocked.
This man is not fit to be VP. I hope there will be one MP from whichever region who will raise a point of order on this nonsense, senseless and foolish statement from this colonialist.
It is a shame for that old zombie to keep serving as provincial minister even under such insults from his VP. Anyway What can southerners expect from likes of Munkombwe? His job is just to feed is stomach and not to stand for what is right.
I feel Dr.Scot was speaking has a politician and his statement is channeled to the politicians and not the Tonga communities. I have chosen to exclude all tongas from the petty politics meant to divide the Zambian people. I personally have no problem with any tribe, so please politicians! Live us out of this non progressive nonsense of tribe.
Just shows how backwards people. The state from the ceremonial vp should not be entertained by any normal thinking person. True Africans we are our own downfall, besides the guy Guy is British who does not give a ***….colonial master him is.
He wants to bring the segregation that his people the Scottish have suffered from the English to Zambia. I thought that is the reason they want to be independent from England. Let that old goat go back and vote for independence so that he can be VP there. What a useless white man this is.
Some Tongas if not most of them are indeed tribal and urgently require a major mind set re alignment. This is open for to see.
The Bembas can’t even support their chief who is being treated like a mad dog throwing him out of his home. The only good BEMBA is a dead or sick one; period
Is it not true that the ZWD only allows Tongas to write their tribal sentiments against the Bembas? Is it not true that only HH-related good news is allowed on the ZWD? Is it not true that Sata together with his Bemba-tribe are insulted on the Tonga ZWD? Is it not true that the Tonga ZWD blocks people who speak against the Tonga UPND and HH?
I think Guy Scott refered to this.
NO, IT IS NOT TRUE.
Just have a look at the articles before you write such rubbish.
If ZWD is for Tongas, then Tumfweko is for Bembas.
Let those who have villages and belong to some tribe comment on these matters. Scott should be the last person to do so; not even on issues of our culture where Nshima is a componet, not conflakes. His ignorance is dangerous and has often lead him to bleat such silly comments as “people should not just make noise about nshima when alot other foods are available.” How foolish!!
This kind of callous attitude can only be sorted by dealing with the ‘racial minority’ in the country otherwise these insults will continue.
TONGAS ARE TRIBAL. PERIOD….
When HH is campaigning on tribal lines or uttering hatred speech why don’t you comment or condemn him the way you are condemning Scott? you just keep quite. Its just the Post that sometimes denounce that. Please, leave Scott alone!
guy scot was right these tongas are very tribal be it at the bars.working places,schools and politics .lozis are more civilized than tongas
This is the reason I believe we are a cursed country that elects to have a white vice President who has no respect for the indigenous people. Just yesterday Guy called Zambians talking about Sata’s health Necrophilia (people with a sexual attraction to corpses) and in our usual docile manner we have let that pass. I wonder what prompted such an attack on our humanity if not lunacy and total disrespect for Zambians. Shame on Guy and we Zambians.
Shame on you alone racist. I thought Barack Obama is African yet he is president of the world’s most powerful nation while characters like you busy for nothing inciting innocent against their elected leader.
Zambian Politics……!!!!
But Zambians ndimwe vikopo,some racist yokel openely insults you and you have the nerve to say he is right! Thats why there are lot of unwashed masses,no exposure.Bembas & Tongas can fight for all i care but i wont allow some frail racist foreigner to take sides! Disgusted…!
Sata’s sickness has nothing to do with Tonga’s or ‘a tribal minority of the south’.
If you want to believe that online media is lying that Sata is sick then your own guest because I believe that he is sick and dying.
He must resign forthwith. He is supposed to be a peacemaker..
I remember in 2002 when i walked into a bar in Livingstone with a friend of mine who happened to be Tonga.Because we were speaking in bemba all the tonga’s walked out of the chibuku bar.I only realized what was happening when my friend explained to me that they walked out because they didn’t want to be near bemba’s.If only they knew that my friend was their fellow Tonga.That made me realize how tribal these tonga’s are.
Chanda chimba made me hate mmd coz of hate speech. ZED has made me hate upnd coz of hate propaganda aimed at promoting tribal upnd. I would rather I vote for the one they accuse of being sick coz despite being the presido he doesn’t propagate against his ill wishers on national media.
The you dont listen to your so called presido. He is full of hate speech that is why even his vice has adopted the same language despite him being a Scottish. I will no allow him to divide us because his inheritance is not here but in Scotland. The ZWD has tickled you big time. Hats Off to them. They have just exposed liars and their lies in PF. I knew it from beginning that PF would be a curse to Zambia and I’m glad it has come to pass. PF is a curse to this country and the sooner it is eliminated the better. If you have decided not to hear any hate speech from your presido that is your Ndaba. For me I have decided never to be associated with whimps and charlatans.
Just check out cabinet composition, High Commissioners and ambassadors, general diplomats, CEOs and Directors of parastatals, Permanent Secretaries and directors in Govt institutions are since PF came into power not less than 80%. Who is tribal? Bembas are only 20% but how can they claim that they deserve 80% of the positions? Tribalism at its best, and no other tribe will beat that record.
Simple reasoning boss do you expect 80% of Tongas in Sata’s cabinet when he had no MP from Southern Province until much later (Mr Evan a Deputy Minister already)
Can you give us the names of full cabinet ministers. dont just say 80% are Bembas.
Hahaha. Looks like Scott’s remarks have worked. Looking at the comments here, he has managed to pit Zambian vs Zambian. I wonder which group is smaller in Zambia, those from the South or those of Scottish origins.
That’s why tulajata ngombe ama rape maningi
Funny how even the writer is Tonga….It just confirms & sums it up.Hard luck the minority tribe of the South.Its not VP’s fault & you can’t blame God neither for that.
Are you equal to a tonga…..ha ha ha or of course you are more intelligent, better looking, richer etc!
You can insult HH if you want and hate him..
BUT PLEASE leave SOUTHERNERS alone..and please since they are a minority clan NEVER go there to ask for votes!!!
Which vote? There are no votes for any party that is no Tonga in southern province. The only vote there are for our son HH.
Which votes when Sata got 200 HH 20,000
This is how genocides start and you are busy making fun of the situation. The situation is volatile in our country.
Hjoe resurrects again… thought he died with the kwacha dollar stories and BOZ issues..
I’m Lenje, which is part of the Bantu botatwe tribes and I have no apology to make for being this. Let anyone show me which MP from Northern, Mchinga and Luapula is from any other tribe apart from the Bemba group. NONE! so why should we be forced to vote for non Bantu Botatwe? Chiluba was voted in by all tribes but the same tribes from where chiluba came from could not vote for Mazoka purely because he was Tonga. We shall always without shame also promote our own. Scotland wants to ceased from UK. Why? Because they believe they are being dominated by the English. Guy Scot is one of the scots who truly believe in their small “Scottish Tribe” He should not hide behind our diversity. European Countries are very small because of tribalism. I’m proud to be Lenje!
This is misplaced reasoning. Because Northern and Luapula Provinces voted for Mwanawasa so it can’t be true what you have said.
Even in 2006, PF shares seats in Parley with MMD and its still the case even now.
But the voting partner has’t changed in Southern province
Will the Kwacha wont depreciate further since the President is now known to be out receiving medical treatment for a condition which could be severe contrary to government claims that he is enjoying an outing in Isreal?
Again this is a wild allegation. Please give us quotes on what tribal sentiments HH ever expressed. I know that at one time he said ” anyone who thinks that his tribe is superior is fo.ol.i.sh”. I agreed with him 100% then and I now agree with him 200%. F.o.o.ls are busy practicing tribalism day and night but because they are from the Bemba group no one should talk. This Zambia is for all of us and we should not allow someone without any roots here to divide us. Go to Monze, Mazabuka Choma and see how many Bembas have settled there. They are in huge numbers. If Tongas were tribalists why are you in love of Southern Province? The fact that Southern Province has rejected PF does not mean they are tribal. Is it an admission that PF is for Bembas? Guy Scot is playing dangrous politics.
This pig called Scot must go back home. Munyelo wako Scot.
Tribalism. We lump it on others, yet we are more tribalists than they.they. It’s the Tonga today, the Barotse tomorrow, my north western siblings the day after.after. the tribalists hide in numbers.
the Bemba thieves of Zambia..we say this to them too..this minority colonialist and Parkinson chap should resign scott..
It is not true that Tongas are tribal but that Tongas like Lozis and very few other tribes have refused to bury their language in preference for Bemba. Any one who resists bemba dominion is their enemy. It has happened to me despite being their mbuya.
Ba tonga nima tribalisst zoona.
Other authorities talk of clusters; Bemba cluster, 43%, followed by Nyanja cluster, followed by Tonga cluster, et cetera, and ending with the Lozi specifically, and not as a cluster, at 3% of the Zambian population.
Which ‘other authorities’?
No tribe in Zambia can call it self a force. Such a tribe to call itself a force risks being isolated for good. we have seen and heard about this in other countries. tribalism will never work for PF and its frustrated VP.
L P.Mwanawasa was Lenje and was president not because of the Numbers of Lenjes in the country but by the Zambian will.
SATA was not voted to office by Bembas alone…………
Lord we repent on behalf of our forefathers for the sin and iniquityof tribalism. Thank you that you were bruised for our iniquities. Through the blood of Jesus Christ and themename of Jesus Christ this iniquity of tribalism shall not take root in our nation and it shall not be passed on to future generations.Lordyou created tribes, races for a purpose. Every tongue and kindred shall praise your name. We celebrate all the tribes and races in Zambia. Zambia shall be known as a land of unity. In Jesus Name, amen
Well, the so called tribal minority from the south, east, central, northwest & west will teach Stott & his PF fellow psychopaths in 2016.
The issue is that bembas are born thieves and liars, and when ZWD exposes their lies they become annoyed. They are messing up our country and expect us to be quiet. What kind of nonsense is this? Whoever criticises them is labelled tribal or tonga or bitter. Stupid and useless tacts they are using to silence people. Bembas have a gene of failure, look at their provinces, still jungles 50 years after independence yet most presidents hailed from there.
Bemba are flexible and clever persons. No wonder they will continue being at the helm of Zambian politics. Tonga women confess that they love Bamba men more than Tonga men because of this. Tongas abufontini na kaso. No wonder Mrs.HH is under authoritarian rule.
if some one answers me these questions then i will believe that am a tribalist.
1. why only bembas call tongas tribalist, now being joined by scott to appease his master a bemba too.
2. why does a bemba use only there language regardless the place, but if vice versa we called tribalist.
3. were did sata who speaks bemba get most of his votes from?
4. who forms the bulk of cabinet?
5. why do u bembas think you are superior and when other tribes dont walk with you then they are tribalists.?
6. why when any tonga speaks against pf becomes tribalist?
if you answer these questions genuinely then i agree to the picture painted.
am be warned that unless you stop pointing an accusing finger, you bembas are causing angervto the other party.
God deliver us from this hate.
The Mmembe cartel is using Gay Scott to fan tribal hatred as a way of marketing their man Kabimba. It won’t work …. Zambians are too smart for that. You can excite a few bemba bloggers here and there but Zambia is bigger than that. HH is the Zambian people’s choice like it or not.
why are you not posting my post nywebo ba LT?
at least we tongas are very educated and intelligent.
not these monkeys hopping from tree to tree thinking they more clever .
@ 41 !you are a let down to the tongas, why should you say we are clever than Bembas or Bembas are more clever than us. As a young Zambian I look forward to a day when you tribal tongas and bembas will live to be in peace, without looking at tribes.You tribal bloggers are very uncivilized.
How shallow minded some people can be.We have lived under one Zambia One Nation since indepependence.A white man from Scotland has the audacity to insult and divide the countyr on tribal lines using such inflamatory statements.
Mr. Scott,for your information,H.E Sata is not a property of the pf.He is the president of the Sovereign Christian Republic of Zambia and whatever happens to him concerns all Zambians.
If war broke out in Zambia,Mr.Scott you will be the first to fly out to your native country.Am begging you fellow Zambians lets us unite under the theme ONE ZAMBIA ONE NATION.
God bless Zambia
You just have to look at the WD. Only a selected few who are pro upnd are allowed to blogg on the site. So if by an unlikely miracle they ended up in plot 1 other tribes would suffer. A Tonga has more respect for a cow than any non Tonga being.
I am a proud BULL. Wht ever one says it wont change the Situation.
mwasakalala ukumweba a minority tribe ku musungu? naimwebene tulamweba ati politics tekubwata bwata even wen it is not du it is not everythn u can criticise president alwaleko u critise can an illness be a political tool? i see no tolarance and maturity in todays politic n especially opostn that is y right thinkn people cant take u seriously they just these are jokers,under 5 and calculator boys oz u lack issue based campaign resulting in characta asasntn.as for upnd i like it,it has gud manfesto but du to lack of gud leadership i cant vote for it.HH is too himself he has no relation with grassroot level pipo mind u those ar the majority voters so try Nkhombo instead of hh the man has lamantably failed n he wil neva win.
take it or liv
The white man is very clever. He came quietly and peacefully with his religion. We were amused at his foolishness and allowed Him to stay. No he has stolen our brothers. Our Clan can no longer act like one, He has pit a knife on the things that held us together and we have fallen apart. Things Fall Apart!
Fullish tribal bloggers!!!! One Zambia One Nation!!!!
God forgive us all
Tribal strength is good when you have 5 main groups. War happens when there is polarity, i.e. them and us, or 2 groups. So Christian/Muslim is 2 groups, it is better to have 1 religion in Zed and 5 Tribes as that is what keeps us from having war. A 5 way split argument goes no where as these comments show. So don’t worry all is good, and a bit of competition helps all do well. Like interhouse competitions at school. The school team is strong but there is lots of rivalry between the houses. Same for Zambia, all tribes must keep striving to be the best and then all of Zambia will improve, but pulling each other down is not striving to be better.
If Gay Scott can refer to the second largest tribe in Zambia as ‘tribal minority’ I wonder what he thinks of the Namwangas, Mambwes, tumbukas, solis, luvales, lozis, lalas, ngonis, ilas etc….just thinking!
….and by the way, there are two pending bye elections in Southern Zambia, will PF cry foul if they lose with such remarks coming from a very senior PF official.
Am wondering also!
He is right tribal party
The statement by Veep is wrong and should be condemned by all peace loving Zambians .However, the writer of the above would have done himself justice by strictly condemning the statement made by veep than bringing in other issues and thus giving readers and political analysts room for counter attacks based on other issues refered by the author.
For example ,HH was a winner on Zambia Watchdog opinion poll ,something that was not even close to reality as most opinion polls conducted by media persons had either RB or Sata as a winner. And the actual results did not dissapoint mos except for zambian watchdog as their candidate came out distance third .
Comrades,i’ve lived in Southern Province for the last 33 years and i’ve known Tongas to be very accommodating,hospitable and humble people.In fact the MMD had plenty of seats in this province.Things started started changing after the UPND of HH and not Mazoka (MHSRIP),came on the scene that tribalism started rearing its ugly head in the province.I’ve interacted with two bit hard core UPND cadres and they do not have kind words for Bembas for reasons only known by the devil himself.A further interaction by these two bit cadres on social media might sway you,if you are a f.ool that there is nothing good taking place in this country yet the opposite is the truth.In short,there is nothing tribal about Tongas except that the UPND is taking advantage of them by whipping the tribal card hard.
#Austin2021
Historical facts indicate that S. Province voted overwhelmingly for UPND in 2001 when Mazoka was the leader. The tonga-bemba problem started when FTJ dribbled Mazoka using Northerners and has nothing to do with HH. HH was just a symbol of the rebellion. During LPM & RB’s reign Southerners started warming up to MMD.
Facts:
1. In 2001, Northern and Luapula provinces were allowed to vote 3 days after elections day to boast up numbers for LPM).
2. PF is the most tribal party in Zambia’s history. Just look at the composition of the cabinet, diplomatic service, govt departments, the judiciary, quasi-government institutions. it’s all over the place. No amount of smearing the tribal tag on the innocent tongas will work this time